Here's how I use Chat GPT for language learning: "Please translate and break down the following sentence: 「気が付くと中世ヨーロッパみたいな剣と魔法のファンタジー世界にいた。」 Present the translation in a table, each row containing the original subphrase, the hiragana for the subphrase, it's translation, and it's relationship with the larger sentence." Chat-GPT presents me with a nice, orderly table outlining the sentence, with all words and phrasings translated. Next, I ask it, "Can you further break down the first phrasing, 'When I realized' ..?" And it does so. Frankly, I don't mind if something is wrong every now and then -- the absolute speed at which it produces "good enough" results has completely super-charged my learning. I spend far less time poking around Jisho, and far more time with my head in the book, learning Japanese. Language learning is "squishy." It is not the case that if you learn something wrong once, that your learning is derailed like a train when the tracks don't line up. Rather, language learning is more like kids talking with one another: Yeah, they make a lot of mistakes, yeah, it's crude and "off," but it reliably produces adults who are perfectly competent in the language.

Video idea: go around and speak "textbook" Japanese and see how people react:D

The problem is ChatGPT is trained on text meaning written Japanese. Depending on the training data it can be biased towards some things like using particles everywhere. Also it is very good at giving convincing answers which could in fact be wrong. Still I think ChatGPT is a good tool if used correctly and most often than not giving better results in translation since it can give more than just literal translations.

I made ChatGPT talk to me like a Japanese high school girl the other day and I was impressed by how natural the speech was. You can also make it a yandere, talk in kansai ben, etc etc.

ChatGPT: "Could you please provide more information on why you believe I was wrong ?" Yuta : "I you want to learn Japanese with me, I will teach you the kind of japanese the real life japanese people today actually speak..."

The way I feel most people are using Chatgpt is like just another replacement for Google. I learned you need to move away from asking normal questions that you would with Google, but instead be more descriptive and precise with what you want it to do. Ask less questions and more or less tell it what you want it to do and what are things that you want it to not do when giving you a response. Works way better that way

Yuta I think you can train the AI before asking question. For example, "I will ask questions about Japanese language, and I want you to use colloquial japanese." then it is better to ask questions. Later response after instruction. "In colloquial Japanese, "do you speak Japanese?" can be expressed as "Nihongo hanaseru?" (日本語話せる？) or "Nihongo dekiru?" (日本語できる？). Both phrases are commonly used" more pls If you want an even more casual way to ask "do you speak Japanese?" in Japanese, you could use the following colloquial phrases: 「日本語できる？」(Nihongo dekiru?) - This phrase was mentioned earlier and is commonly used in casual conversations among friends or peers. 「日本語できるの？」(Nihongo dekiru no?) - This is a slightly more casual version of the previous phrase, which adds the particle "no" at the end to make it sound more friendly and conversational. 「日本語話せる？」(Nihongo hanaseru?) - This phrase was also mentioned earlier and is a common way to ask someone if they can speak Japanese, especially in casual situations.

its not that its "learning". its based on your previous questions in that thread and what it "thinks" you want to hear. Because you primed it with questions about formal and informal usage, it will give you answers that follow that same train of logic. Start a new thread with no other questions and it will likely revert back to giving you textbook translations.

「ゆうたさん、このビデオはとても興味深いですね！ChatGPTについての説明が分かりやすくて、将来の技術の可能性が広がっていることを感じました。これからも面白いコンテンツを期待しています！」 - ChatGPT君

I love your channel bro keep it up.

Fascinating, it's neat to watch it learning as you're testing it lol.

Standard Japanese is necessarily correct. Standardization is necessary because "natural language" has many emergent and fluid properties that ultimately result in miscommunication. In English, we call these properties slang. They are technically grammatically incorrect; however, I understand your sentiments.

I’ve been using ChatGPT recently to write me sitcom scripts using simple vocabulary and grammar. It’s very useful because I’m in the pretty beginner stages of learning. Can’t vouch for its native accuracy, but comprehensible input has been so hard to find… it’s really nice!

This is the question i've been wondering about since the release of ChatGPT. Thanks.

The few times I've used ChatGPT for Japanese, I've asked it to give me example sentences with translations and notes. That's probably the best way to use it versus depending on it for learning directly.

the trick of learning natural languange in chatGPT is to prompt chatGPT to act like a someone who is legitimate or credible sourceoif that info, yes it's a fact that you're required to make several paragraphs long of what you expect chatGPT to do, before you ask about certain thing, to get the *refined answer* that you desired....people call this new emerging skill, prompt engineering

ChatGPT references earlier points in the same conversation, so if you ask it a question and then correct it, it will give the correct answer next time you ask. If you start a new conversation though, you will be back to the base-level and so it will not have learned anything you told it. You won't necessarily get the same exact response by asking the same question in two new conversations, but you can be sure that the knowledge base is the same between the two.

Excuse me, Yuta. Do you know of a website that contains a list of Japanese children's movie titles (not anime) from the 90s-2000s? 🙏

In English, to request that someone speak Japanese, I would say "Can you speak in Japanese?" rather than "Can you speak Japanese?" That "in" adds a bit more emphasis that it is a request to speak in the language.

Please try again with GPT-4 and let me know if it has improved. I'm using it often to explain the meaning of sentences I heard in anime, and I think it's doing a decent job.

I've got a quick few tips for getting Chatgpt to teach more effectively rather than settling with canned responses and these work for learning pretty much anything but ill just use language as the example. First pretty much never settle with the first or often second answer it gives you always after receiving an answer always ask for a specific setting or how to make the phrase sound more casual/formal or who it would be said to, it'll start going less and less textbook the more your tell it to adjust its answer in different directions. Second ask it to give you multiple choice questions and after trying to answer on your own question it like you would a teacher such as "what makes answer X more accurate than answer Y" it'll again start sounding less textbook the more you ask it to alter its own answers and explanations. I've been using it to learn JAVA and checking some stuff in Japanese for more detailed answers and using the focusing down method or in general getting it to reason why its answer works or doesn't tends to make it explain and reason out in a way that feels like a lesson or personal answer than the first response which pretty much always sound straight out of textbook.

Expected some of these responses.

It's crazy how far AI has come in such a short time. Just a year ago this thing didn't even exist. And Chat GPT4 which will be out soon is already miles ahead of this one. Think about what it will be able to do in like 5 years?

I use ChatGPT to create new riddles and worksheets based on material I train it with first. For example based on a minna no nihongo chapter. So I can include my own knowledge combined with the textbook etc.

Yuta, please answer this question for me, I'm really curious. You can ask chatGPT to speak to you in Japanese (essentially completely switch languages), does it speak Japanese well compared to the way it tries to teach Japanese to English speakers? Like is the Japanese fluent when asked to speak Japanese?

2nd comment: Great series of how anime characters speak Japanese. Please do Itsuki Nakano from the quintessential quintuplets or any or all the 7 main characters in TQQ. how they speak Japanese I believe is very important to understanding the plot eg the honorifics, the lost in translation stuff (eg when they say things like tsurui, hatsukoi, uso, etc that are removed from the dub). I compiled a lot of the lost in translation stuff in r/gotoubun Something to consider about Itsuki: The Quintessential Quintuplets' character types are: Ichika - Onee-san / ara ara, Nino - tsundere, miku - kuudere / dandere, Yotsuba - genki Itsuki - ?? - Tsundere like Nino? - Eat-suki? - Imouto? - Someone who speaks keigo to their siblings, to Fuutarou and to Raiha and to everyone basically? I have a theory as to what Itsuki's type is, but you're not gonna like it...

I wish you could try this with GPT-4 that just came out. It's supposedly much, much better at Japanese compared to Chat-GPT (according to some machine translation benchmarks). edit: Just from re-running your prompts, GPT-4 does a bit better than Chat-GPT.

in two months, it has learned all the languages I can even think of, so the question is what it can do really in 5 years time. Lot of people are coming forward and trying to say how this not great, the are mostly the people that fear this is going to replace what they are doing today. Then there are some who already see the future

I see it more as an aggregator or smarter search engine than anything, in fact there are search engines that already incorporate the same technology or are beginning to.

I worked in a Japanese company for close to 10 years and have been to Japan several times but have never heard anyone ask me ogenki desu ka. Instead they will always go konnichiha or osu (short for ohayou gozaimasu).

I must admit I find particles confusing - when to use which one, but even moreso, when I can drop them. I do have an interesting question (to me anyway): if you read Japanese novels, does that have more conversational/natural Japanese, or more textbook Japanese? Or a good mix - textbook outside of dialogue, natural within dialogue? Written languages often look and sound a bit different from the "real" thing. And another question: how would we be able to figure out/tell when something is unnatural or not, without knowing anyone who is Japanese that we can talk to irl?

So are textbooks teaching the wrong sentence examples or are they also structured grammatically non colloquially?

3:31 Does anyone know which video he is referring to?

I tried that for myself and asked Chat GPT to tell me the difference/nuiances of から vs ので. It tried but failed miserably. When I asked for example sentences for each it just provided sentences with から even though it said "Here's and example sentence with ので" I would say it is not quite there yet.

2:33 A lot of people use the word "literally" literally when they mean to use the word "figuratively" instead. Traditionally, the correct way to use it is by using it as its actual definition, not as a word that literally means the opposite of its definition lol. So, generally, in this argument, textbooks would still teach you how to speak grammatically correct Japanese, which is what ChatGpt implied, thus that supports its argument. I think it makes more sense for you to say "colloquially people use this phrase this way" instead of saying the "correct way is bla3".

おご苦労様でした。

if you get a huge amount of “spoken informal japanese” written (from natural speech subtitles or whatever) and give it to chatgpt to teach him informal japanese, and then ask him to teach you informal japanese, provide natural conversation…. is this possible ? We just need informal japanese text…😊

Just a little fun fact when it comes to 日本語を話せますか?, using を when the verb is in its potential form (話す - 話せる, 喋る - 喋れる) is actually ungrammatical, you have to use either subject marking particle が or は (which here substitutes the が). This is whats called "nominative object" its basically a grammatical subject, but semantically, it has a meaning of an object. Although this doesnt have to do with its naturality. for example you can normally see を欲しい being used as well (but i feel like this only applies when its in a relative clause) 猫を欲しい - unnatural, 猫を欲しい理由はわかんない - natural.

I often can't hear を when it is used after お. I thought it was being dropped when spoken at a natural speed but now it sounds like that is sometimes the case and it is sometimes simply being left out, which wouldn't be noticeable unless you're reading. For example, I can only tell the difference between　日本語を話せますか and 日本語話せますか when you're speaking very slowly.　I frequently miss things on Duolingo because I can't hear it using を but it expects that as part of the answer.

Is it true that ppl in japan dont tell them like "i love you" ? In Germany we Tell say it alot to Like our husband. We try to use more and more japanese in our daily life. Maybe you can "Help" us Here? Much Love from Germany ♥️

I can't hear the difference when you're comparing the phrases using "o" or not, it sounds exactly the same to me, maybe I'm misunderstanding the point? The particles have been the most difficult part in learning Japanese for me

It would be great if everyone gives their feedback and correct the answers that ChatGPT gives because it will definitely help make it better.

I asked it if "そんなばかりはない" was a natural sounding sentence, and it said, "Yes, "そんなばかりはない" (sonna bakari wa nai) is a natural sounding Japanese sentence. It is a common expression that can be translated to "It's not just that" or "It's not as simple as that."" I'm assuming it's not since I found 0 Google results for it.

The chatGPT algorithm is trained only with text. It is not verbal yet. Also, all of the training material is a few years old. chatGPT does not learn globally from interactions. But, it does learn a bit within your application. chatGPT is in the Beta test phase only. Imagine what it will be able to do in a few years!

0:36 I like how it's already wrong here. Japanese is not a tonal language. Intonation is important but "tonal" is a specific term.

"Correct" Japanese is the one that is officially stated , which is done by the official dictionary(& textbooks etc), not the %% of being used by natives. When %% is high enough - dictionary are changed, dunno why Japan doesnt do it :)

The clickbait did its thing and I couldn't help checking out this video. ChatGPT is just a chatbot backed by GPT-3, which is an AI language model. If you take the model and train it with conversational Japanese it will produce more natural language, but it won't really help with many social nuances. Especially in a language in which context is so important.

If you find that chatGPT is wrong, it wont be wrong for very long ! The way it is constructed is a human mirror that will continually improve. Inexorable, useful, but frightening.

I usually say "日本語使いる？" to say "Can you speak Japanese?". A direct translation just say "Can you use Japanese?" which sounds like a suggestion. I do say "日本語しゃべれるの？" which sounds more soft and more of the "I'm excited because you can speak Japanese" kind of sound. Although that's just for massaging the foreigner's ego to push them further into learning Japanese or for Japanese people who are excited about wanting to tell me about Japanese culture. But yes, I also say "日本語しゃべれますか？" for those who I can be very certain that they can speak Japanese Purely learning natural Japanese is fine and all but if you want to massage your own ego further while also becoming a professional in learning Japanese, you might have to learn the unnatural form that are 100% grammar base. Like how you'd say "You speak English?" in conversation but you write down "Do you speak English?" in English.

I've tried using ChatGPT in Japanese before. I ask for a 俳句 and it was the most frustrating experience I had with the AI. It drove me crazy because the AI could not count the syllables, so it would claim to be making a 5 7 5 poem but there was always one or two extra syllables. It was very interesting to see that every time I point it out it was wrong, the AI would admit it was wrong and even count correctly but them write it wrong once more. The poems were mid though.

you have to explain what "natural"or "unnatural" is for chatgpt first for he knows what you are talking about

Someone could actually just pay someone with fluent Japanese to train chat gpt and its gonna get perfect in no time, what a time be alive!

Nice

From what I understand, ChatGTP, is better at teaching intermediate to advance. I found it was better at that tho it’s pronunciation is off and some other issues. Also, ChatGTP needs more input to provide better responses (as you’ve shown). It’s better as a practice tool than a teacher. Try debating with ChatGPT. Also I wish it could write furigana… Anyone figured out how to do that?

U sent me three videos but i have watched one only and the remaining two is like nowhere

This is tangential to GPT but have you ever had a chance to talk to anybody involved in writing or publishing those textbooks and asked them why their phrases are often unnatural? I wonder if it's just a desire to keep a standard relative to what's gone before at this point, although maybe some texts have changed significantly over time Some GPT results have been better than others if they're phrased and targeted in a particular way but most of the results I've seen have been more English-focused. I'm curious to what extent Japanese language example data have been fed into the system

Is textbook japanese maybe an old version?

It makes mistakes even in languages closer to English So I wouldn’t rely on it as a single resource But you can get the sentences or paragraphs corrected on Hi native (if you are willingly to pay 35$ a year of course)

Can you also use が when saying 日本語話せますか？ like 日本語が話せますか？

Also I didn't think that nihongo o hanashi masu ka is grammatically correct since I was not taught that phrase in school.

Alternative title: CHATGPT FAILED! MY SIDE-HUSTLE IS SAFE

For me 日本語を/は話せますか？ Always sounded like "Can you speak in Japanese?" (even though I am aware it is supposed to be 日本語で話せますか？). I prefer to use 日本語できますか？ I think is more appropriate because it implies more than just "speak" but also read and write... 🤔

So, ChatGPT likely did not learn from your conversation, although it could’ve if it was in the same chat. ChatGPT essentially is just predicting the next word, with some degree of randomness to make it sometimes not pick the top word. Depending on when it does that, it can confidently generate really wrong answers.

Yuta teaching japanese to chatgpt 🤣🤣🙌

Yuta you meant "generic (average, standard)" not "genetic (dna etc)" thats awesome, I've never heard you make a mistake before, thats rare!

確かに、日常生活で使う日本語はJLPTの範囲を上回るだけじゃなくて、場面によって文法が変わることが一般。それを教えないこそが、罪。 自分も、偶にこの罠に入りやすいけど、改めて考えると、やっぱりちゃうねぇん。って思う

GPT learns from written texts, so it's normal that it's not as good in conversational language. I've been using ChatGPT as well, it's useful but you have to take its answers with a grain of salt.

I asked chatgpt the 'do you like anime' question, but adding that I wanted the answer to be more natural, like a real Japanese would typically say, and these were the answers: "アニメ好きですか？" (anime suki desu ka?) // "アニメ好き？" (anime suki?)

what about anime japanese?

I'm guessing with a very high confidence, that Yes

LLMs don't "learn". It's just more or less random if they get an answer right every time you ask.

I’d say “can you speak japanese” and “do you speak japanese” can both be used interchangeably in this context.

Probably not but it's not like we can just practice it with native speakers who already shut themselves off to eachother and have a stigma against foreigners. So forgive me for my robotic japanese demeanor

Ask Chat GPT how to say something in Japanese for every situation.

I know 2chan would be a terrible way to teach chat gpt natural Japanese, but I also get the feeling it would be closer by default.

It does what the title says but only has one msg and doesn't teach you any japanese.

Just because most people don’t speak a certain way doesn’t mean it’s incorrect, most people are complete idiots. It also didn’t say other ways of speaking were incorrect, it just meant official. I get you need to bring up points and clarifications for a video but skewing meanings isn’t a good look.

I feel like these prompts were a bit too general in my opinion. After trying more specific prompts that directly ask for entire conversations of colloquial speech in a certain dialect, ChatGPT can be really useful in learning vocabulary and grammar structures in Japanese. But it can definitely still be very misleading at some times because it's too trained to just give a response, even if that response is wrong.

I would have to argue on behalf of the AI on its answer when regarding (does Japanese textbooks teach you natural Japanese) paraphrasing of course... One could make the same exact argument when expressing the concept of English... There is a textbook way of speaking and writing... These are the hard set rules, but when you see someone speak like that it feels unnatural for our time period.... This applies with most languages... And if you went over the rest of the ai's answer as we can see if we pause the video, it clearly addresses this issue... It's really a semantic argument at this point... Is the literature really correct if most people don't actually speak like that? The answer is yes it is... You can solve a math problem multiple ways, which could be different based off of the time period one learns in, to the location they are born, but it doesn't change the fact that the textbook example of one plus one equals two is true... Just as Japanese language books, or any language book for that matter is correct, and is actually more correct than anyone reading the book would be... But that still doesn't change the fact that the majority of people don't speak like that now... Whom and who mean the same exact thing, but any publisher will tell you to use who because to use whom in today's standards would be considered poor writing simply because the fact that no one uses that word normally, even though it is the proper way to say it... So it would feel unnatural, or as a gamer or film reviewer may say, it would break immersion.... So in one hand you're right and that is why we don't press the matter, but that wouldn't excuse us as a society to remove such structure from the text book because it is the back bone of the language itself... And the sturdier it is, the wider range of material you can add to it ... Otherwise great video and it was fun to see how the ai would function in such a way.... Keep em coming 👍

it's funny how Yuta always points out that something is unnatural but doesn't explain why it is unnatural. after watching this video people will still use なければならない。 over なくてはいけないです。they boft mean the same thing it does not matter which one you use.

Some crazy moment. Many Russians consider the textbook Russian as the correct Russian, not conversational, and sometimes correct people, when they don't talk like in textbooks. It drives me crazy.

1:15 Yuta, u need to be more specific. I asked for more ways to say that phrase. Certainly! Here are the ways to ask "Do you like anime?" in Japanese: 「アニメが好きですか？」(Anime ga suki desu ka?) - polite and formal 「アニメは好き？」(Anime wa suki?) - casual and informal 「アニメって好き？」(Anime tte suki?) - even more casual and informal, using the word "tte" which is an abbreviation of "to iu" (meaning "called" or "said") 「アニメ好きですか？」(Anime suki desu ka?) - another polite and formal way 「アニメはお好きですか？」(Anime wa okuski desu ka?) - even more formal, using the word "okuski" which is a more polite form of "suki" 「アニメが好きなんですか？」(Anime ga suki nan desu ka?) - more emphatic way, adding the particle "nan" which means "what" or "which" to emphasize the question

Great video! I especially liked your take at 2:25, which is normative linguistics in a nutshell. The premise of normative linguistics is fundamentally flawed because style guidelines are just that - guidelines - and ultimately do not reflect the way people use the mental system that is language

Yuta has become very handsome.....thanks to AI!!!! Lol!!!

“貴様は同期の桜”

Textbooks teach the scholars version of a language, to take an example from English, anytime you see words with weird spelling, it's because a wealthy scholar thought the word wasn't fancy enough, and our first dictionaries were made by wealthy scholars.

Still better than the troll Google Translate.

アニメが超ー好きだ❤🇯🇵🇨🇦

1:50 音泉女子高生までカバーしてるのはあまりにも草。しかもタイムリーなことに、この左側の林鼓子さんは投稿1週間後に2代目優木せつ菜役だと発表されましたよ。笑い。

From all my experience with ChatGPT it felt more fake than I expected. It is a very good tool to gather information fast and organize it in simple and efficient structures. But it didn't feel very intelligent. Also I realized it would learn my speaking pattern and predict if I was disappointed with the answered, so I think my bias was tremendous.

You’ve got to try it with Gpt4, this is already outdated

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トロントで自分で日本語を勉強して英語が勉強する日本女性をナンパして日本女性は一緒に珈琲を飲むながら喋る❤🇨🇦🇯🇵✌️

It's terrible that language teachers will be no longer needed very soon...

わたくしはしませんでした

It annoys me that chatGPT constantly apologises and uses other banal pleasantries in its responses to corrections. It’s such a waste of time and is meaningless. I told it to stop and said “You are not a person, just a computer algorithm. Act like one.” chatGPT’s response? “I apologise…” Sigh. Yeah, it would never occur to me to use chatGPT to learn how to improve my Japanese. Just watch Yuta! (and Miku, and Onomappu etc).

Yuta only made this video to distinguish himself from A.I. He is part of Skynet. Do not be fooled.

First 😊

Learn Japanese with Yuta: bit.ly/42iN3pc

The funny part about English and the "Can you speak Japanese." portion is they can both mean different things if you legit just add a "?" at the end XD "Can you speak Japanese? V.S Can you speak Japanese." The first is a question of asking if you can speak the language or not but can also be politely asking you to speak it. The second is politely telling you to speak it cause they can't talk English or they can't much understand you. English is way too complex and can mean way too many different things depending on punctuation, when the conversation is being had, how it is being had, who is having it, sentences before and after it and so much more xD.....