That is what many german think.

​@@18KriegerI'm not sure about that 🤔

Considering we fought a war killing tens of millions the last time Germany did that....how quickly things change. For the record, I'm not opposed to German remilitarization. Germany has done everything possible to ensure that doesn't happen again.

I don't think the Russians would misunderstand.

Any Germans with an ounce of testosterone were drummed out of social life over the course of the last 70 years. I can't say that I don't understand considering the horrors of the second world war, but, you can't thump on a group of people for 70 years and then expect them to have a warrior ethos.

Uh? How about Ukraine..they got up to speed pretty fast

@@gekolizzard Not without external assistance. Willing citizens helps a lot, but if US and Europe does not provide continued assistance, they'll be overwhelmed by attrition eventually.

@@gekolizzard it took them over 8 years

Who said that?

I'll bet you anything right now if The German War Machine woke back up Russia wouldn't last 2 weeks.

Also missing knowledge and maintenance on the crews/Bundeswehr's part.

This is not the only disaster in this army! Today's German army is a joke and the incompetent German government is also incapable of reforming the German army and making it combat-ready at all, let alone making a strong army out of this heap of rubble. So that's out of the question that Germany become Europe's great military power. The German army is a joke today and that will not change. The government has announced that it will invest in rearmament, but that won't change anything about the miserable state of this ridiculous army. Because the Department of Defense is riddled with corruption. The German arms industry affects massive on the purchase of weapons. Furthermore, the ministry is totally ineffective and unable to reform the army. At all there aren't enough patriots willing to fight for Germany! According to the last opinion poll in Germany, only a miserable 5 % of German men are willing to voluntarily fight for Germany in the event of war. The German army therefore has considerable problems in recruiting new soldiers. That is why it is also being discussed in Germany whether conscription should be reintroduced.

@@patta8388my man knows what’s up👍🏻

Germans need to forget about German pride and develop Euopean and NATO pride. I am German and I don't believe in German nationalism anymore, that is in the past. Now we have NATO and Europe and need to fight for that. Die ganzen Russen Liebhaber sind ein Problem.

Sadly true

AI, streamlining of processes, smarter fighting tactis, alliances, .. You can make up for personal weakness

Yeah probably and also patriotism is rising again. So time will tell

Die Feinde des Westens oder der Osteuropäer sind nicht unsere Feinde. Und der kalte Krieg ist vorbei.

Can I ask seriously why any German would fight and potentially die for a Country being overran by foreigners? Half your young population aren't German at all and Germans will be a small minority in just a generation or two. Why should any German suffer or die for that future?

Ich sehe es ähnlich wie du. Geld alleine löst die Probleme der Bundeswehr nicht. Es bedarf neuer Strukturen und den Abbau von übermäßiger Bürokratie. Unsere Gesellschaft muss stolz auf ihre Soldaten sein. Sie muss sie wertschätzen, schließlich setzten sie im Verteidigungsfall ihr Leben für uns ein. In Frankreich beispielsweise marschieren die Soldaten beim Nationalfeiertag auf und stehen im Mittelpunkt. Wir dagegen verstecken unsere Soldaten, weil wir uns nicht dem Vorwurf des Militarismus aussetzen wollen. Auch müssen wir unsere Rüstungsindustrie stärken und bei Waffenkäufen bevorzugen. Die Franzosen machen es uns vor. Wir ziehn ab... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oa2YY6l9nJOyco0.html I see it the same way you do. Money alone does not solve the Bundeswehr's problems. New structures are required and excessive bureaucracy eliminated. Our society must be proud of its soldiers. She has to appreciate them, after all they risked their lives for us in case of defense. In France, for example, the soldiers march on the national holiday and are the center of attention. We, on the other hand, hide our soldiers because we don't want to expose ourselves to accusations of militarism. We must also strengthen our armaments industry and give preference to weapons purchases. The French show us how. We're pulling... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oa2YY6l9nJOyco0.html

Training and recruitment is not enough. You need combat experience. You also need motivated troops, there are a lot of unfit recruits in the forces. Overweight people...Even USA has had problem with recruitment in recent times and society has been attack by leftist fanatics.

Danke für Ihren Dienst.

Deutschland brauch keine Armee. Alle Soldaten sind geldverschwendung. Hitler ist tod und deutschland brauch keinen neuen hitler

Ob's stürmt oder schneit....🎵 Ob die Sonne uns lacht!!!!🎶

Disagree. Germany lacks the healthy demographics to become a military power. Germany has one of the worst birthrates and has a limited immigration/assimilation. France has Germany beat in both. Not to mention a culture that is more open to use of force.

Lets not forget Poland.

Unfortunately very true. The scars of Hitler and WWII still run deep for Germany. I can understand their hesitance. But for the Free Worlds' sake I hope they can finally move past that.

"Service guarantees citizenship." Afaik Germany does not have a policy like that yet. Besides that all countries with a border with Germany would have their panties in a bunch if Germany would openly want to become a great military power again, for obvious reasons. German money on the other hand will be put to good use i guess.

nenn mir ein grund warum wir ein militär brauchen?

@@McHallel Damit wir nicht mehr amis schwanz lutschen müssen.

​@@McHallelweil die Welt leider nicht so friedlich ist wie man sie sich wünscht

That's what I don't get. I saw a video of a Bundeswehr soldier receiving a medal from an old lady who looked like a librarian.

​@@McHallelWarum braucht man denn überhaupt Waffen und Gewalt? :vv

I have watched youtuber Peruns take on the German military and beuracracy. If its anything like his analysis, it seems quite awful. But I think if the German people really want to lead Europe, your voice can make change happen quicker then you think.

Germany isn't a sovereign country anymore. It's just a US Puppet State. Hey, who blew up Nord Stream 2? Ukrainians in a yacht? HAHA, yeah sure! Do yourselves a favor and get out of NATO and the EU if they'll let you.

True. So why start to modernize at all? Its a waste of time and Money.

Modern Germans do NOT understand that their country, it can no longer be called a nation, is simply an American puppet state. Germany is not a sovereign country and the Americans are NOT your friends. Learn to take care of your own people and relearn the old phrase "Amis raus!"

The US has the same type of bureaucracy. Nothing harms a country more than job security for administrators.

you are an optimist The promises made by the traffic light government are just hot air. I guess Pistorius. But just like his predecessors, he will be run into the wall. The traffic light government is more likely to spend money on the EU and migrants than on its own population and the security of the German state. I am also against the fact that we Germans allow ourselves to be exploited for the interests of other countries. As a former paratrooper in the German Bundeswehr, I am willing to risk my life for the safety of my people and state, but not for our false friends in East and West. I plead for German neutrality and withdrawal from NATO.

Not only that, he actually goes to exercises and even marches with the soldiers for a short while. He is actually in the field where he needs to be. Thats something i havent seen or heard of ever in my lifetime. He's a great defense minister and i wouldnt want anyone else taking his spot rn

@@cantinadudes All of that may be true. However, it does not change the fact that German politics neglects the German army and thus endangers German security. Announcements alone do not create a strong army. The effective implementation of the announcements is important. And that's what's missing. Pistorius and the German soldiers may be motivated, but an army needs the appreciation of politics and society, good organization and money, money and more money. That was the case in the past and has not changed today. A scene from the series "Mary of Burgundy and Maximilian" depicting a conversation between the German Emperor Friedrich III. and his son Maximilian (from 1:34 minutes), makes it clear that you need money for a strong army. Without money, the best intentions come to nothing. We Germans finance half of Europe and millions of migrants, but we don't have the money for our own security. "Mary of Burgundy and Maximilian" kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZmSd7eZrZ_YdZ8.html Pledge July 20, 2019 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n699d7uc376vmoU.html

Hes actually one of the best ministers germany currently has.

Unser Boris

Thats a lot of money, especially when considering that Germany does not have any nukes or aircraft carriers like France or Britain to pay for.

The purchasing and bureaucracy needs to be streamlined. Also the "gold plated" solutions need to be looked at. Look at Shahed and Lancet drones, they are cheap and effective. Germany would never build something cheap and good, they will go for something that is 300% more expensive and only 10% better, because they need to be eco-friendly, have turn signals installed, and not offend anyone. But Germany once knew how to make cheap, effective things. What Germany needs is the return of the best technology it ever had : the Trabant. I'm not even kidding, with that technology, Germany could build millions of drones and just fill the sky with them, turn day into night, unleash righteous vengeance, conquer the worl... oh, I got ahead of myself.

True, but the German military really has to improve how to allocate the funds. Even before Russia invaded Germany had better funding then the UK and France. And while these two have a nuclear arsenal and at least one aircraft carrier each to maintain their combat readiness is much greater than the Germans. Even though the evacuation and short term takeover of the airport in Khartoum and the set up of a permanent 4.000 strong military base in Lithuania are signs that things are changing.

@@Maxi_94 Well, German politicians considered taking care of Muslim "refugees" as defense spending, so there's that.

@@Maxi_94 yes we had better funding for like 2 years or something like that. You can not really compare the budgets either as they do not have to pay for the same expenditures. If you look at how much everyone spend on new hardware, you will see where our problems come from.

No we dont We want to Go Back Trading with russia.

A strong industrial base? They have zero oil of their own. Literally every aspect of their economy runs on foreign oil. That's exactly what led to Germany's inability to match the war production of the US and Russia, during WW2. No oil, no German industry. Unless they can ensure a constant flow of black gold, they're one of the easiest nations to beat.

They also need a matching policy that allows them to use it when necessary. And to wake the f*ck up - change through trade did not work. The invasion of Crimea proved that yet the Germans decided cheap gas was more important than a strategic reset. And they still wanted to do nothing after the invasion of Ukraine.

It was done by Pres. Reagan in his first term. By the end of his second term he had restored America's military power that the democrats had allowed to decline and it ended up bankrupting the Soviet Union. Clinton and Obama defunded the military to fund their bullshite social programs. President Trump brought our military back up to where it should be. Democrats have always been for a weak national defense since the end of the Vietnam War.

Nah, fam. Ain’t happening. Poland, Ukraine & Turkey all have much more formidable armies & even at its pick German industry was vastly overrated. Germany’s more of an economic center than an industrial center at this point.

Yes,but America destroyed there Energy supply,so the time of the Powerhouse is gone,unless they have a cheap energy supply again !

⁠@@ProgNoizesBwell, yeah… it’s his job, right? Do you work for free? What an stupid comment… 😆 you think he owes you or anyone anything for free? 🤡

You forgot to mention that there aren't enough patriots willing to fight for Germany! According to the last opinion poll in Germany, only a miserable 5 % of German men are willing to voluntarily fight for Germany in the event of war. That is why it is also being discussed in Germany whether conscription should be reintroduced.

There may also be a similar issue as to in the US: Young people hate their government. In the US, the enlisted is OVERWHELMINGLY conservative in politics. Basically, have a liberal such as Obama or Biden in charge is absolute cancer for the military. That mixed with the senior generals being seen as liberal puppets has led to a situation of massive decay in recent years. Of course Europeans only see our external politics and not how much the liberal democrats absolutely have destroyed our economy and wellbeing.

Germany has many problems, many of which are never going to be fixed by the BRD regime.

Everything wrong. WW2 - excellent. We can morally exaggerate our products without paying for marketing. Same applies to our politics. A Sorry is meaningsless when it comes from a German (this thing is connected to our culture and language), we do not apologize like other nations/languages. Next thing is, the enemies of the West or Eastern Europeans are not our enemies. it just makes no sense to rearm and the cold war is over. We also do not fight for other Europeans, not after everything which happened in 1945-1947. Thats the reality and thats why the Zeitenwende are just words and everybody knows it. Also just talking, which costs nothing.

I agree with you, you need the right people in power and nearly 80 years of brainwashing and international shaming undone and the will to spend when lives of Germans have gotten so cushy. all of or most of Europe in fact.

well nazi germany was really bad no way around it that said prior to that german/prussian military tradition was and is still highly respected the nazis hijacked it to spread evil....but there seperate things

It’s long overdue.

@@bmw328i8 Agree, especially Japan since it will likely have to deal with the Communist menace of China

Is time for world domination, Russia and China are screwed hahahaha 😂🤣🤣😂

Italy isnt rearming lol

@valeriocostantini9216 to be fair they weren't either war

There is an emotional bias in warographics. But they do a very good job of presenting multiple sides of an issue or multiple viewpoints

His bias is what I would qualify as “as reasonable as humanly possible”

That’s how I feel about the old business blaze. The first few brain blaze videos I include, but when he stopped snorting Coke….. still good, but not the majestic beauty of the beginning. This channel is my second choice, after business blaze but before brain blaze (modern).

its perspective in the Russo-Ukrainian War is heavily biased

Simon is a great entertainer, but he parrots soooooo much NATO propaganda.

Haben wir zuverlässige Partner in Europa? Polen betreibt eine deutschfeindliche Politik. Es wirft uns in den gleichen Topf wie Russland. Frankreich betrachtet Deutschland wie seit Jahrhunderten als Rivalen um die Vorherrschaft in Europa. Schon vergessen? Obwohl wir einen Freundschaftsvertrag haben, hat Frankreich alles versucht, die deutsche Wiedervereinigung zu verhindern. Als ihm das nicht gelungen ist, hat es als Bedingung für seine Unterschrift unter den 2plus4-Vertrag, der den Weg zur deutschen Einheit freimachte, die Herausgabe der Deutschen Mark verlangt. Die Deutsche Mark war nicht nur ein Symbol des wirtschaftlichen Aufstiegs aus den Ruinen des Zweiten Weltkrieges, sondern auch ein Machtinstrument in Europa. Mit der Deutschen Mark beeinflusste die Deutsche Bundesbank die Geldpolitik in Europa. Mit dem Euro ist die Deutsche Bundesbank aufs Abstellgleis gesetzt worden. Jetzt bestimmt jetzt Frankreich mit seinen südeuropäischen Alliierten die Geldpolitik zu seinem Vorteil und zum Nachteil Deutschlands. Über den Euro ermöglichen wir den Club-Med-Staaten sich zu niedrigen Zinsen zu verschulden und werden zugleich für deren Schulden in Haftung genommen. Do we have reliable partners in Europe? Poland pursues anti-German policies. It puts us in the same pot as Russia. France, as it has done for centuries, views Germany as a rival for dominance in Europe. Already forgotten? Although we have a treaty of friendship, France tried everything to prevent German reunification. When it failed to do so, it demanded that the Deutsche Mark be handed over as a condition for signing the 2plus4 treaty that paved the way for German unity. The Deutsche Mark was not only a symbol of economic recovery from the ruins of World War II, but also an instrument of power in Europe. With the Deutsche Mark, the Deutsche Bundesbank influenced monetary policy in Europe. With the euro, the Deutsche Bundesbank has been put on the sidelines. France and its southern European allies are now determining monetary policy to its advantage and to the disadvantage of Germany. With the euro, we enable the Club Med countries to borrow at low interest rates and at the same time we are held liable for their debts.

Sehe ich genauso deswegen will ich auch dazu beitragen und der Bundeswehr beitreten.

und gegen wenn sollen wir uns verteidigen? die einzige nation die uns angegriffen hat waren unsere "freunde" aus den staaten

In was für ein Märchen lebest du denn? Polen kann uns überrollen und aus einer Division von Strafzettelverteilern haben wir nichts das läuft. Das wir ein Haufen Geld in die Bundeswehr schmeißen bringt gar nichts denn dieser Saftladen braucht 10 mal mehr Kohle um ein Panzer zu betreiben als jeder andere Armee und nur weil wir so viel Bürokratenschwachsinn Anhängen

*You're doing free work for a youtuber that earns money with his videos.* *Well done you.* (Slow clap.) 🤦🤦‍♂🤦‍♀

One reason why the Bundeswehr has an issue with far-right extremists is that it's an all volunteer force, and therefore are disproportionately militaristic compared to the general population. What we need is citizen soldiers coming from all walks of life, not another Reichswehr. It may be unpopular to reintroduce conscription, but it would help allay the fears of the military becoming a hotbed of neo-fascism.

@@revanofkorriban1505 you have a lazy population, which quarter are Turkish and wouldn't die for a country they don't relate to

Germany still should have a strong military presence.

That could be same of USA britian France who has done 6 in history but your Germany ijust like UK have to protect our selves in times of threat and glory to frendrick the great 🎉🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪

​@revanofkorriban1505 As a german, I agree. I would consider myself very left wing and peace loving, but I'm also a big supporter of the reintroduction of conscription in a slightly different form from the original that requires everyone (yes, women too) to do one year of service for the nation eg. as a nurse, social worker, paramedic, firefighter, someone who works with disabled people or a soldier. This would greatly reduce the widespread lack of personnel in these vital areas and by allowing everyone to relatively freely choose between all the options available, nobody can reasonably complain about it, especially if its just one year... (I just finished school btw, I'm not just a 50 yo guy complaining about our lazy youth, but someone this would affect)

Thank you. I like Sweden and the swedish People too.

Thank you. I like Sweden and the swedish People too.

Das ist wirklich nett aber ich glaube nicht, dass wir für andere Europäer mit Ausnahme der Niederländer, Österreicher und Schweizer kämpfen würden. Alles andere ist schlichtweg unrealistisch und innenpolitisch gar nicht vermittelbar. Diese Gedanken gibt es schon seit den 1980er Jahren. Zur Realität gehört auch, dass wir den Rest Europas nur wirtschaftlich brauchen und das durch die geographische Mittellage auch ausnutzen können. Was stimmt ist, dass man mit Deutschen besser arbeiten kann als mit Engländern. Ich selbst nehmen keine englischen Kunden an. Allerdings sind die Deutschen nicht weniger arrogant als die Engländer, sie sind einfach anders arrogant.

Bit of a weird take since many militaries from around the globe send officers to train with the British armed forces due to their discipline and experience. You may not like Britain but they at least remember the lessons of past conflicts. Germany not betray Europe like the UK, maybe avoid conflating Brexit with military history, one of those countries has helped resolve continental conflicts multiple times, if the UK turned its back on Europe they would have made peace with Germany with 1941 and the world would be a very different place.

Sure but their military is kinda rubbish compared to France. They don't have nuclear weapons. Everything is completely over budget. Frances military is larger and they have to pay to upkeep nuclear weapons and they spend less. Germany has such a long way to go to be a military power again.

Name one country that does that well...

@@bellissimo4520 Any country with a dictator.

​@@bellissimo4520Singapore under Lee Kuan Yew.

@@scratchy996 Dictatorships struggle extremely with long-term vision over successive governments. ;-)

@@Chiungalla79 North Korea thinks differently

a country that only loses world wars absolutely cannot. Whether they want to or not.

That's why they built the overstuffed bureaucratic swamp, to make it impossible to have a working military.

But they can't, though.

@@frontenac5083 they can if they want

@@fatmanwalking8610 No we cant, we litterally have no money for it. If we did rearm, the living standards would fall even lower.

It's built by Rheinmetall and KMW I refuse to acknowledge the existence of KNDS.

Sophie Scholl disagrees

True, it is a good rifle, but its replacemt is a good example of whats going wrong in our military system. 8 years ago it was decided to replace the G-36. There is an alternative from a German manufacturer that is already used in special units of the Bundeswehr. The german economy would benefit, the army wants it, the budget has long been approved, a win-win situation for everyone involved. And nothing happens for 7 years until the Ministry of Defense announces that it has awarded the contract to an unknown manufacturer who is under a Saudi Arabian consortium. A day later it is reported that the tender was incorrect and you have to start again from the beginning. So we will probably have to wait 6 years for the next announcement. The guns are there, the warehouses are full, you just have to grab them, but that seems to be more difficult as quantum physics.

@@honnebombll Shit happens, the USA has started a bunch of projects to replace the M16 and ended them without adopting a new rifle. The USA has a habit of spending billions on developing new weapon systems and then ending the projects without adopting them. They just spend so much money that it doesn’t matter that much. Just for example they spent 7 billion $ on the Commanche helicopter and never built more than 2 prototypes.

@@HingerlAlois True. There is a lot of grift in the Pentagon just because there's so little oversight.

@@HingerlAlois yeah, was a damn shame too. The comanche concept was pretty cool.

Agree it's not as bad as people say, it's actually better than an AK. But the HK416 is much better.

Would like to see a similar one on the paper-thin Canadian military

1000%

I'd like to know who the British are going to fight? Russia has been humiliated by a bunch of Ukrainian farmers. Russia has lost the war and there is NO threat from them whatsoever. Somebody enlighten me. Who is Great Britain going to fight?

​@alyssinwilliams4570 you mean the group of 46 people who drive around 60 year old museum pieces and wear cardboard boots? Yeah its hardly a military if you ask me.

Canada hasn't had an appropriate budget for military revamping in eons. I think that's because we would rather spend our money on other trivial things.

Already happend 😂😂 In the moment Olaf opened his lying mouth

*LOL!* *Why are there so many American military personnel and bases all over Europe, then?* *Europe doesn't need the US to defend itself.*

Yeah, unfortunately thats exactly whats been going on, the US budgets for the defense of its own soil, and the soil of its allies in Europe and Asia while some of its allies in Europe use it as an opportunity to budget barely anything. The US spends more than is has to in part because they spend less than they need to.

I agree to an part but please dont forget that we also stood beside you in Afghanistan. We should have invested more and as an German i want that Our Military can hold its own and Protect us and Our Brothers. A big Problem is that the people that rule our Country grew up in a time of the cold war and in hitlers shadow after it the big hope was to never face war again. If i could change it i would push for an United european army under with one United Organisation behind it like Frontex just more efficient. We will need a lot of help from the US and Our allies in the next years, but i am Sure we will grow on this Situation and if my country would have a few changes regarding the social System and offer better oppotunitys for Vetrans i am Sure we would have a Strong army. Changes like this just wont Happen overnight Arming an Military that Was seen as useless for 30 years is a lot of work. I hope that you maybe See my Viewpoint and take it into consideration.

I second this as a fellow veteran. Support for Ukraine in the short term is fine but this needs to transfer to the European Union and European NATO members in the long run. There's this whole thing brewing in the Pacific that's more pressing to the US.

@@Shoelessjoe78 Amen. The People’s Republic of China presents more of a threat to freedom around the world than the paper bear that is the Russian Federation. They’re currently conducting a far more innocent looking strategy of investment in places like Africa creating a debt situation that China can then use as leverage for further influence. This as well is China building a monopoly on the supply of many of the resources needed for modern technologically advanced economies.

The short answer is very ready. Maybe you should watch battle order and Perun videos on this if you want a more in depth view.

people are so desperate for German power because they watch too many ww2 documentaries with Wochenschau Wehrmacht footage , they have no clue about modern Germany

That's actually why I'm not okay with this 😂

He is what Germany needs imao

I wish the Nazis would follow their leader lol

@@patrickmunneke8348 Wtf?

Or any Austrian involvement whatsoever.

Let's hope it is a different outcome this time. At least the U.S. has a gigantic presence in country but Germany did also actively train with the Soviet Union pre WW2 and did as much a dramatic turn as you will ever see

Don't expect the Belgians and French to like it very much.

two? the area and people that is now Germany have influenced the course of the world quite often in history

Sure, let’s just ignore the dozen international wars and invasion of foreign countries the French, Tzars Russia, and England fought just before WW1 and continued to screw much of the world after WW2. Germany was not really the biggest bad guy in WW1.

@@quantuman100 At least central to it. Geography isn't destiny, but it's expensive to ignore.

It wasn’t. There were still Nazis in high position and watching the current votes, it’s going back to broaden far right views. We’ve just lost and that hurt I guess.

@@waggna469 partly yes, this was the case after WW2 for a decade or two. Re-education measures of the allied forces and an increasing GDP in (democratic-capitalist Western) Germany changed most people. Or regarding nowadays: If you are German, would you consider your parents as "far right" politically? I don't. Many societies turn right if there are economical problems or problems with foreign-policy. Populism also does wonders for turning people to the right wing, but I dunno examples where it increased the overall life quality of people.

@@FireOnMyPocket in big cities there is a liberal view but my sisters eg grew up and lived there whole life in suburbs and the „society“ over there has right views. Of course, the „simple men“ doesn’t really understand what it means but they choose sides. Not all Nazis hated Jews already when they were child’s. For most people it was just easy to blame them. But they joined the nazi party and many people died, that makes them nazis too. I totally get your point and ofc people tried to have different views after WW2, but I have a feeling it was more like an attempt than really a new Germany, trying to help the whole world. It brought us in uncomfortable situations (eg friendship with Russia) and people seem to forgot why we were trying this in the first place and want their „good old strong Germany“ back.. Just some thoughrs

Right, but what Merkel, the SPD and many other german politicians never understood was that Brandts policy was backed by a truly powerful army. It was not just naive believing in the goodness of tyrants, but an offer from a position of strength.

Merkel enabled Putin, there's no question about it.

@@abraham2172 no. germany after WW2 never had a truly powerfull army, had to rely on foreign troops on it's soil to defend it and it was purposefully done so. So Brandts policy was not backed by a truly powerfull army, Brants policy was backed by being part of NATO, which Germany still is, so "many German politicians" did correctly interpret Brandts policy and were not naive. It's just that there is less confidence about the US being true and constant to their word, if anything.

What?? Germany had a full twelve mechanized divisions under arms, several hundred fighters and fighter bombers and a fleet geared towards fighting the Atlantic convoy battle with its allies and keeping the access to the North Sea shut, together with Norway and Denmark. That was 500,000 men under arms, active. In wartime, reservists would have swelled that number to 1,3000,000 men. How much more should we have fielded, you abject moron? Tell me. If West Germany had fallen in case of war, all of western Europe would have fallen too. So OF COURSE it was a team effort. That‘s the raison d'être of NATO.

I think NATO should raise the bar to 2.5% of GDP and inform member states that unless it is met, they won`t be covered by article 5. NATO is a geostrategic insurance policy that more or less eliminates any military threat to its members. You don`t scrimp on your home or car insurance so why scrimp on a policy that protects your entire population from totalitarian gangster states like Russia and China?

If only somebody told them a few years earlier..

​@@wilhelmeley6617 The minimum of 2% was set in the 1960s. Either that was a hell of a long deadline or you're talking out of your ass.

The American public being misinformed!? Blasphemy!

@@wilhelmeley6617 True and thank you for sharing that clarification as I am sure many didn't know it was a ten year deadline, but it says within a decade so yes they have ten years to do it, but they shouldn't have left it this long because this is a prime example as to why. I completely agree that they haven't faulted but I do criticizes them for taking their sweet time getting there.

German proverb (more or less directky translated): "Of all good things there are 3"

At least NL is buying back the tanks.

@@GrouchyBear411 These ideas have been uttered, but a bill proposing it hasn't been put up for a vote in the parlement thus far. I want to be optimistic, but experience has taught me to be reserved. At least they'be purchased rocket artillery and upgraded the CV90's with APS, so there's that...

now imagine the us leaving nato and suddenly its all up to germany again ... :D

Ya I don’t think Germany can without a total overthrow of the current government, shredding your institutions; and restarting. German bureaucracy is world beating.

@@ashvandal5697 well in extrem situation germany would spend massiv money for the war. Is not like Russia attack Ukraine and Ukraine got some Millions cash limited. Germany got Billions to spend in the worst times ^^

About 15% of Americans have German ancestors. It's the largest nation in the USA.

​@@putinisakiller8093*17 percent, which is the largest demo in the USA.

@@non-applicable3548 You forget the English, they definitely make up the majority of white Americans

​@@putinisakiller8093so the third reich has been outright stolen by the US... :D

I urge you to look at the past 100 years of German war history. Something that is a delicate balance for *all* nations, is balancing military power. It's also not as simple as a direct benefit for unemployment. Especially with defense contracting, you have a bunch of red tape and security clearances and subsequent training that needs to be done. Training that may not have the infrastructure in Germany. So then Germany would theoretically need to outsource to the USA,,,this presents a whole other slew of hurdles. Not really problems, just bureaucratic headaches. As well as a *sizeable* chunk of the population that for better or worse, advocate for defensive measures only and have overwhelmingly sought diplomatic solutions. Also keep in mind that for the past 30 odd years, the bulk of mainland Europe has had the USA acting as a security force that kept aggressive powers in check. Now we are seeing the erosion of this and the paradigm of power in Europe is changing. The next 5 to 8 years will be very spicy.

It's easy to explain. Other industries offer much more "benefits" without getting involved into something as potentially controversial as defense industry.

@@guidobolke5618 more like, it's basically a "just in case" thing which is good to have, but the opportunity costs to produce defense equipment instead of other stuff also can't be neglected. And somebody has to buy that.

This is the result of left-green propaganda. It prescribes self-denial and self-hatred for us Germans. She is destroying our country. This creates glee among our so-called European friends. But their gloating will be short-lived. Germany is the center and heart of Europe. If the heart of Europe stops beating, then all of Europe will perish. "Ich bin Deutschland"/ I am Germany kzfaq.info/get/bejne/opZpfK2gvKvSZKs.html Excerpts from the lyrics of the song: Look at me, I'm Discipline Goldpower I am the voice that sounds when the people mourn I am the march that whips the troops forward I am the truth - don't tell me about worry free What have we become - a stooped people Must be silent, the country shows not a shred of pride We are gagged by media and politics Our country is so close to suicide I'm fed up because I know how people think They can't do anything because they let strangers guide them I can see it, the black, red and gold tombstone If you say what you think, you're an enemy of the state .... I am Germany and I can say that I stand by it I'm German, look how the flag is waving It's black-red-gold This is my blood, my pride, my people, I'll show you how it should be What we need is a look ahead I don't give a fuck about the past and about Hitler's words. I can create the future Because from today there is nothing to make up for We are us because we are what we are The past is just a torch in the wind Which slowly goes out, but soon lights up again I am the youth, the voice of the Germans I see it, come our future is golden And we don't give a shit about earlier and looking for consequences i have identity I am black, red and gold

For many (delusional) politicians in Germany, especially on the left side of the political spectrum, the defence industry was/is basically the extra-ugly step-child they want to hide in the closet when someone comes visiting. Many of these simply thought that there would be no need for a military in the future because everyone would be happy-clappy hugging trees and each other in Europe. Now those in government suddenly realise: oops, there is a need for a military.

You're about to get Sarged. 😂

Tradition, me lad. We call our armored vehicles after cats.

If the big players Germany for sure is the worst. The UK and France still kept their militaries in pretty decent shape for geopolitical reasons (UK projecting power for its overseas territories and complementing the US in Iraq; France for meddling in their former African colonies). Smaller nations such as the Netherlands, Belgium or Austria are just as bad as Germany though. IIRC the Netherlands have zero main battle tanks at the moment.

@@cedricfranzen8558 German re-unification cost trillions, there's that. And then there's the Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany from 1990, which basically forced Germany to sell, gift and scrap much of their inventory. But why did France and the UK let their militaries rot ?

​@@scratchy996No money.

​@@cedricfranzen8558you do realize that the UK is no longer considered an elite military power, right? France has failed to meet their defense spending requirements, as specified by the UN and NATO, for decades. As it stands now, the US and DRC are the only two elite military superpowers on the planet. Poland currently owns the most elite military in Europe, and when things finally wrap up for them, Ukraine will be the second.

​@@SkunkApe407*US* and NATO? 😅

That has to be my greatest gripe about the Nazi's: They tainted fashion for the rest of us.... Why did they have to look so good while doing such evil?!

​@@lostbutfreesoulBlame Hugo Boss

Let’s no forget the funny moustache

It won't happen. As for why it wont I suggest watching a video from the channel Perun on the German rearmement and why it will most likely fail (it is like a year old and everything he said could go wrong did lol).

Uhh, I think most of Europe remembers the last time that happened, and it didnt end well FOR ANYONE!!

@@Jungoguy Big difference is that Germany wasn’t democratic back then and it is now. Huge difference you kinda should have mentioned. Strong military doesn’t automatically mean invade Poland after all.

​@@JungoguyYou mean during the cold war? (As mentioned in the video) I'm not sure how that ended overly badly.

Not completely impossible, still possible too an extent. But it would require time, effort, and money.

Biased opinion

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That rule was Set on ice shortly after it's introduction as Germany was expected to be a Buffer against russia, and so the Bundeswehr Had around 500000 solides in the cold war

@@admiralgalactica thanks for clarifying!

being in the middle of the sandwich is not as pleasant as some people imagine

Only this time Poland isnt buying shit from Germany for obvious reasons, and omg they sure are buying a LOT.Frankly it should be Germany that is concerned about Poland ;p

@@havocgr1976 In the event of war, it's not about what you have, it's about what you can produce. Even if Poland had better military equipment than Germany (which they don't), Germany surpasses Poland by far in both the industrial base and the military potential of the population. Where Poland beats Germany by miles, however, is in the absurdly inflated national ego....

@@zugezogenerhesse4557 Not really, ask France, ask Poland ask a hundred countries in history.Production is relevant if you SURVIVE for a few months.So yes its important but not always.Also actually the SK tank they are buying they ll be co producing in Poland.A major factor I feel they chose to go to SK is Germany preventing countries from giving their weapons to Ukraine.They want to be able to do wtf they want with their weapons without asking for permission.

@@havocgr1976 If you would be able to steamroll your enemy within a couple of days or weeks, yes. But since you brought up the scenario of a possible military conflict between Poland and Germany and not between Poland and let’s say Estland, a steamroll scenario seems rather unlikely. Since the Germans do not play the strong man anymore, many seem to forget that Germany is still an industrial and technological powerhouse that is quite unrivaled on a European level and especially in comparison to Poland.

hopefully when the afd gets elected

​@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356channel checks out

​@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 We shall see

Let us hope the juggernaut of Germany rise again

​​​@@TheRavenLord1 We had our fun for 4 centuries! 🇬🇧 No big deal for us British Otto Von Bismark would be proud to see it

Yeah aussies needed to upgrade. They are so close to all that powerplay from china in the pacific waters. Better safe than sorry.

@@MrSheduurthere’s a running joke here in Australia (if you’re Australian you’d have heard it) That it’s important for the Australian army and navy and airforce to defend Australian trade with china……. From china. Frankly I’d much prefer we close ranks and only deal with Western Europe, the British commonwealth and the United States. We should be spending our money on trade with countries who support our existence even if isolated from it. I’d rather the USA and Canada and England get all the trade money and all the iron ore and coal and gas and all of it than a seemingly passive enemy who will return that iron in the shape of bullets and bombs.

I don't think you can call New Zealand gearing up for war. They are an island nation with a navy consisting of NINE ships. And only 4 of those are actually armed, the other 5 are support/auxiliaries.

Australia will be extremely important to NATO/!the west if all this talk about Russia and China starting WW3 is right. Not only would you be the frontline defense but you would be the forward operating base for all of our army's, navy's and air forces against China. As a Englishman I'm definitely in favour of the Anglosphere countries becoming much more integrated and aligned for trade, military and culturally.

They arent equal to this day, in fact loan levels are vastly different between east and west. Commen west-german reasoning involves the opinion east germans are somewhat degenerate. US social engineering at its best!

Why Not?

Yup, it's better to waste it on the Green Revolution. Germany's survival as a free nation is more important than the weather in 2100.

most german arms companies sell everywhere else but Germany. they rather not deal with german bureacracy without foreign trade all these arms companies would be broke

Which is ironic because thats what led to WW2. Germany getting economically crippled is what made it ripe for extremists political turmoil.

It unfortunately was, at least to a large extend. Germany was not the sole initiator of ww1, but its aggressive, inflexible policy and exaggerated trust in its military capabilities brought the world much closer to war.

​@@abraham2172 If England had allowed Germany into the big boy club, the West would have prospered immensely.

@@abraham2172 Not really, every nation was itching for a war like france for wanting lost land back in the war from 1871.

@@abraham2172 Germany was on the brink of winning WWI too before the U.S. joined. That screwed everything up for them

Germany is long gone, go to Berlin and see what I mean. I thought it was the Middle East

🇬🇧 Not necessarily, because "Keynesianism" only works with investments in civilian infrastructure and means of production. 🇩🇪 Nicht unbedingt, denn "Keynesianismus" funktioniert nur bei Investitionen in zivile Infrastruktur und Produktionsmittel.

Yeah, but you get two crew for the price of one. It evens out.

​@@Wonzling0815The pregnant moment.

I am German and I think we should not only be the strongest military in Europe, but the second strongest on earth. Side by side with the United States.

I am French, and i don't mind, since we can eventually nuke everything if things goes south....again. No more need for Maginot Line or crap of the sort.

​@@Kden420i really wish germans are second strongest in the world because in that scenario there would not be threats from countries who share completely different views and ways of life like fascist China, Iran or Ruzzia

@@Kden420 ausgerechnet mit den USA, die uns zweimal in den Rücken gefallen sind? Und wofür willst du dich unbedingt bewaffnen? Wenn es nichts zurückzuerobern gibt, macht das keinen Sinn.

​@@Kden420I hope we are first best one

Since it is EU money (hence german) financing the giagantous polnish millitary spendings, he kinda did.

Simon already did, last autumn I think

@@markdturnock i just found it. Thanks.

@@henninghesse9910 Nice try Ivan, but you need to stop to listening your master and his propaganda, cause money in EU doesnt work that way...

The German military is going to get really, REALLY powerful in QUITE a hurry…