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I read an article some time back about this. The BBC claimed they could tell if you were using iPlayer. As I understood it the only way they can tell is if they traced your IP address, this is illegal. Once this was pointed out the BBC back tracked rapidly on the claim.

So let me get this straight, they claim to have the ability to detect illegal usage of iPlayer when it’s own staff couldn’t detect Jimmy Savile abusing kids?

My latest letter from them was in a lovely red envelope, thing is it rips up just like the others.

My iPlayer account was automatically deleted by the BBC accounts team a few months ago due to inactivity, as I haven't used it since 2020. No big loss there :)

Just looked in to this (JUST TO TEST) and i signed up with my dedicated spam email address and a postcode about 3 miles from me, they do not require your name or house number to sign up. Went to watch something and there it was the "Do you have a tv licence" message, I answered yes and expected it to magically say "sorry mate you lied" but it just continued and I watched the program. Think that answers the question in a backwards way. Technically they can find out via IP addresses but lawfully they cant. Plus with that many people using VPN's nowadays it would be an expensive waste of time. So even if they could get round the lawful bit They would need a court order to ask your ISP for your details court orders are not free and if the defendant is on a VPN then that cost will be put to the unsuccessful prosecutor. I don't know the cost but I presume it wont be cheap and if your a sales man you have to think of that profit don't you?

Thanks for this, keep up the good work.

Without a licence -Dont use it-The man is 100% right.

You did the correct thing .... much respect to you !!!!

Got yet another un named letter today, straight in the recycle unopened.

Get a vpn then they cant trace you through your boardband provider

My friend who does not watch live tv or use iplayer, left his gf in room while he cooked dinner. He had to rush in and turn off his tv after he discovered she had signed into Iplayer with her details and was watching something for about an hour. She has a tv licence. He says nothing has happened yet, and he gave her a jolly good telling off. Who would be responsible if this horrendous crime was found out?

Can I watch Iplayer if its not live and I stand on my head so I am watching it upside down since its not the orginal intended broadcast?

You’re allowed to watch iPlayer without telly licence, but only S4C and only non-live S4C streams. Very often, if I’ve got left over data at the end of the month, I do this. And actually, some of the shows aren’t too bad, and my Welsh is coming on quite well. If only they had dedicated channels with the same arrangements for the other British languages such as Dorich and Gaelic and whatever other ones there are.

Well well never knew this- From EO Visiting Procedures page 85 "If Computer Use is Claimed" By way of example, the BBC simulcasts all of its digital TV channels so BBC1 is streamed live and can be viewed using the BBC I-Player as it is broadcast. Therefore a licence is required to use this service. The BBC I-Player also allows a user to access an archive of programmes that have been broadcast over the past 7 days. This service is not live and does not require a licence. Thanks for all the info - great campaign.

Magic video once again Chilli & great advice 👍Can they or can't they now there's a question. Very much like what came first the chicken or the egg scinario.

Use a false email address. Easy.

I pay my TV licence, no choise with a family as they watch live TV, but the TV licence is not the same name, email address than my I player sign in. I'm not sure if that helps anyone, but i have only been asked on BBBC i player, do you have a licence, i say yes and it never asks any further questions.

I no longer have a BBC iPlayer account, however, I recall that the app could also be used to listen to the BBC radio, for which you do not need a TV licence.

Don't you have to log into BBC I-player to watch it ? It always came up when my wife watched it ?

My bbc iPlayer is pre installed on my Samsung Tv. Do I need a licence even though I don’t watch iplayer. Btw, it cannot be uninstalled

As long as you're VPN'd, you should be fine. In theory you were accessing iplayer from another country, where you would not have to pay the TV licence. NB: You need access to a VPN where you can choose your 'location' as iplayer is not available in certain countries

The reason I never used iPlayer was because I had to sign in every time, I’m talking about ten years ago of course, whether this has been changed now I’m unsure? You used to sign in with your license number??!

Get a VPN, then you can get anything without signing in to the BBC.

Why would anyone who does not watch BBC want to watch i player. It'll be the same old BBC rubbish , just repeated for the thousandth time surely.

to use the iplayer you have to sign up to launch it

Its the address that is licensed not your equipment. So if you watch it in a hotel, airport, café, or anywhere other than your house what's the problem. If they catch you its the occupier that has to have the license. I watched I player on a bus, do they have to have a license? I registered when I had a license years ago. The other side must also be true, if I have a license and go somewhere that does not have a license, who is in the wrong?

bbc have previously said they won't cross-reference iplayer logins with tv license holders database. but of course they could be lying or changing their mind later on

You do have to use a legit postal code in the UK when signing up with an account. You can't make up one up because it has to be tied in with an actual address. If you have a friend or a family member who has a TV licence ask them if you can use their address to sign up so you can use the iPlayer. There is also another myth that you are not supposed to watch the BBC while you are out of the UK, the fact is people do when they go on holiday to Spain etc. They just use a VPN.

iPlayer just needs an email address to work. They have deliberately chosen not to lock it down to TV licence for some reason, so if you just make up a Gmail account for use by iPlayer only then i can't see how it can be traced to the user? The BBC don't have resources or legal standing to trace by IP. It would be very interesting to hear if anyone has been caught watching iplayer having been detected by technology rather than telling someone at the door? maybe put a shout out??

Just got a letter from tv licensing saying they can interview me undercation in accordance with national criminal law

Did you here THOUSANDS of Britons may be eligible for a refund on their TV licence due to a series of signal problems. Last month, many television watchers in the North East were affected by the Bilsdale transmitter fire which saw their screens turned blank. In response, the BBC has opened applications for refunds. How can you claim your money back? Bbc are ending

Very tactful!

I enrolled for bbc iplayer ages ago. I have since canceled my TV licence how do i cancel iplayer?

They can check with your broad band provider what you are down loading

What really P's me off as someone who doesn't pay the bbc tax is that in bolted on my smart TV menu, not only can't I remove it but it's first on all the lists, I can't even move it to the end of the list >:( I'm not going to condone anyone that using it when they've bolted it to the top of the list ... If they don't want you using it without paying their tax why is it there in the first place !?

The registration process for BBC iPlayer requires you to enter your post code and house number. This is linked to the email address you register with. It should stand to reason that anyone trying to register from an unlicensed address should be refused the registration. I have my reservations as to whether the BBC would do this or not as allowing someone to register from an unlicensed property gives them ammunition to press for a licence fee through the courts. One way round this would be to register the account while licensed then cancel said license, but any such cancellation of licence should also cancel the iPlayer registration. Again, I wouldn't trust the BBC to do this either. Another possible way round it would to use the log in details of a licenced friend or relative to access the service. I think this would be very difficult to prove from the BBC's standpoint unless they actually saw evidence of you watching it or if they track IP addresses that logged in. Don't give them the pleasure of catching you, stay legal.

Good advice. You shouldn’t be watching iPlayer if you haven’t paid for a service meant for licensed viewers. Besides, why would you want to? KZfaq is so much better, as are the cheapest streaming services. Also if you watch iplayer EVEN with a false email address & postcode, your IP address will locate you like a postcode. If you use a VPN these are detectable, and it won’t be long before they close this loophole to only allow BBC Worldservice, which is meant for overseas consumption. Mainly news. You also don’t know what else is built into iplayer, eg if it can see what SSIDs are visible, you can definitely be located (remember when using your phone GPS maps, and it often asks turn on WiFi for better accuracy? ) What remains unfair by the BBC for watching another broadcaster’s content, like a communist supermarket demanding to look in your shopping bag, and on seeing anything purchased from another supermarket, demanding its weekly shop fee.

I tried to watch iPlayer and it told me I am in the wrong country. I am in Canada. Maybe with a VPN.

Why would you want to? It's all shit

Not if you do as i have done As soon as IPlayer required the possession of a television license I removed IPlayer from all my computers.

You have to sign in so surely they would no if you had used it....

Just give a false e-mail address when registering a bit naughty i agree but having paid the licence fee for the last few years why not

Could you be traced with your IP address? What is worth watching on the BBC will be on Quest in a years time.

Britbox is available at a reasonable price

Your ip address will tie back to your isp and account. Your account will have your name, address etc. linked to it. Just do not use iplayer if you have no licence. Far too easy to catch you out.

Yes if you use iplayer registered your name etc they can tell they emailed me straight away

highly mischievous answer

The way it could be done is as you said to run a search on the licence database to see if someone registering to use iPlayer is on it. Most likely primarily use postcode and house number for the primary match. If no licence they should wait until after someone has logged on a few times before hitting them. The interesting thing for me is how often they run the check. If they only do it once on registration or do they have the nounce to do it again when someone stops paying the TV licence. What could really screw them up is my situation. I originally set my friend's TV up for iPlayer with my email. I am her tech support. I moved away from my friend's place and cancelled my licence. My friend began paying for her own. If some bright spark at good old aunty's, picks up on my name and the change of address they might get a boner thinking they've caught me.

I don't pay anymore, due to the fact I don't have a TV that works anymore, haven't paid my monthly payments for months now, been without a TV for over six months! But I still wouldn't be surprised if they send out their goons to check up on me. I even avoid watching any clips here on KZfaq that hold the BBC logo, just in case they are sniffing around on here too! I owe them nowt!

the bbc should use code .

The plain answer is YES. Because it asks you to sign in that means you need an account, to get an account you need to sign up, to sign up you need to identify yourself. Even if you lie on he registration form you still need to provide an email address which can be tracked too. Of course you could use a burner email address but because its a sign up they have the "authority" to collect data which includes IP address. So you could use a VPN an and you would have to select an egress point within the UK for it to work, you would also have to NEVER log in to your burner email address without being behind a VPN or that information can be gained too. Don't get me wrong, a VPN is useless for 90% of the things they say it protects against but it WILL hide an IP address, although not windows serial number, CPU serial number, browser fingerprinting etc which is frequently used to work out who is behind which VPN so you would preferably need a notebook or something you can dispose of ... is BBC worth all that effort?

What if you were watching iplayer in somebody else's house who had a licence??

Wth i thought license was only for live streams? But its for catchup streams on iplayer too? Lol...

Short answer. Yes. They can cross reference your details with the TV licence database.

I have never bothered even looking at I-player as I don't watch bbc shit period but I always thought that you needed to input a tv licence number into it to watch? Must have got that wrong then. Live n learn I guess.

You need a licence for any streaming service.

Short answer, yes you can. You could try to hide behind a VPN or fake account, but then you are pitting your technical skills against theirs and you have to hope you know more about TCPIP and the internet than they do. Like Jon says, if you don't have a license, you shouldn't be watching it.