Can NX-01 REFIT Defeat NCC-1701 USS Enterprise?

Can NX-01 REFIT Defeat NCC-1701 USS Enterprise? - Star Trek Starship Battles

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6 ай бұрын

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In this video we see if the NX-01 Refit & Columbia can defeat the NCC-1701.
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@PKPhoenix83 6 ай бұрын

Based on what we saw in In a Mirror Darkly, I don't think a small fleet of NX Refits could take out a Connie.

@ionamoebam5931 6 ай бұрын

exactly the Connie is more then 100 years more advanced then he NX kind of like fighting a supercarrier with a fleet of blow up dingy's , the dingy's will not win lol.

@PKPhoenix83 6 ай бұрын

@@ionamoebam5931 I look at it this way, a 100 year old ship can win, but it depends on a few factors. A WW2 era Iowa Class Battleship could take out a modern Ticonderoga Class Cruiser in certain circumstances. A warship from 1840 has absolutely zero chance of taking out an Iowa. The advancement in tech between 1840 and 1940 is much greater than 1940 to 2040 will be in terms of actual firepower that can be concentrated on the other target. The Iowa has better armor and guns. What it doesn't have is long range missiles and modern tech. So long range, the Ticonderoga wins. Close range, the Iowa wins. The era in which the Connies were in service saw major technological advances and conflicts with the Klingons. It makes sense a Connie is going to be ridiculously more powerful than a ship even 20 years older than it. Comparing a Connie to an Ambassador Class probably has much less of a tech gap. The Federation got very very lazy and complacent at some point, probably Khitomer.

@Forge17 6 ай бұрын

It’s like a laptop from 2020 vs a PC from 1990 💀

@TheCormTube 2 ай бұрын

Yeah I mean we saw the twin phasers of the USS Defiant literally blow an Andorian Kumari class out of the way and we know that class of ship outgunned a standard NX.

@deepdivedylan 6 ай бұрын

3:46 don't use photonic torpedoes. Fire the photonic cannon!

@RetroBadgerGaming 6 ай бұрын

😂😂 Noted for next time, my fellow ECH 🖖

@bradarthur3603 6 ай бұрын

Wow the AI really phoned it in that time, it barely even tried.

@MisterMarin 6 ай бұрын

Your torpedoes are weak, old man! ~ Darth Kirk 😛

@richhead1999 6 ай бұрын

🤣😂

@RetroBadgerGaming 6 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@paulrose319 6 ай бұрын

its like the best of both worlds being carved up like a Sunday roast

@XHunter442 6 ай бұрын

Dam the Enterprise tried to take off your head when u were on the Columbia lol

@PGTIPS85 6 ай бұрын

According to These Are The Voyages, the ship was being decommissioned 10 years after its launch. However, with the refit being cannon, we can assume it was in service longer.

@tred6292 6 ай бұрын

This is like the Mirror Universe episodes of Enterprise. The Defiant vs the Avenger.

@dougsmith6262 6 ай бұрын

One of the coolest things to see in STO is all phaser arrays firing at once when you're engaging multiple hostile ships at once. Always wondered why they didn't do that more in the shows...budgetary constraints, I guess? 🤷

@keyboardt8276 6 ай бұрын

I believe phasers are meant to be able to channel the full power of the eps system through a single outlet, so firing from more outlets wouldn't be useful apart from situations where there are multiple targets

@SkywalkerFilms1927 6 ай бұрын

It is seen in Discovery, when fitting Control; but an otherwise cool scene was ruined by all the shuttles and other small ships.

@mghobbs8604 6 ай бұрын

I really like the NX-01 Refit design. Wish we saw it more

@stever3832 6 ай бұрын

Love this one! Great to see what ifs and challenges between eras. Always love to see the Connie.

@alanbaker2347 3 ай бұрын

WOW that was Seriously Amazing I totally love the sound of the Connie's phasers and photon torpedoes

@TrentonBennett 6 ай бұрын

It's interesting how you were able to take the Connie like that not once but twice. I think the NX-01 Enterprise was decommissioned a few years prior to the 1701 Enterprise being commissioned. I could be wrong though.

@EmpyreanFrost 6 ай бұрын

TOS Connie---2245. NX class----2161. About 80 years difference in decom date :)

@stever3832 6 ай бұрын

The AI is shit - badger dominated finishing both in less than a minute when he took the Connie.

@BrickStopmotions 6 ай бұрын

@@stever3832 Yes, whichever side is AI controlled always does worse. If there's a PvP option, I think RBG should try it, and see how it affects the results of battles.

@keyboardt8276 6 ай бұрын

@@BrickStopmotionsbc remastered has a pvp option, though I doubt there are many players...

@BertoPerez82 6 ай бұрын

Maybe the first 2 times, the delta shift was on the bridge? Kirk was like, "Who blew up my ship!! Let me show you how it's done!! There, that's how you do it. I'm going back to sleep."

@RetroBadgerGaming 6 ай бұрын

😂😂

@EmpyreanFrost 6 ай бұрын

The NX class was decommissioned at the founding of the Federation in 2161 due to Warp technology advancing far enough to make the NX obsolete in a way, and the Daedalus class remained in service until the 2196. The Daedalus was just easier to make than the NX class was I guess. Possibly the Daedalus could handle Warp 6 & 7 easier than the NX class or it's refit could.

@Euripides_Panz 6 ай бұрын

From looking at the USS Horizon, a Daedalus could easily be completed/refit much quicker and with so much fewer resources, four could be built for a single NX. The warp 5 engine, itself was a paveway to the emerging warp 7 engine of completely different design. Replacing the engine perhaps in that instance wasn't practical. The somewhat newer Columbia-type had the secondary hull to accommodate any of the newer components. Two other prominent features were the original NX warp fields were unstable, requiring the governor module. The older navigational deflector probably wasn't up to the task of higher sustainable speeds and might have needed a short, high-capacity power conduit fairly close to a warp reactor. Likewise, installing the new forcefield generators and projectors was a much less tedious operation for the Daedalus design. Even if a single Daedalus was much weaker than a Columbia or even later NX, the numbers translated to a better investment. Crew requirements may have been higher for a several reasons, but Starfleef personnel would see dramatically larger enlistments to staff new ships.

@BrickStopmotions 6 ай бұрын

Amazing what adding a secondary hull can do for a ship! 😁 Video request- put the Most Evil Galaxy X From Hell against EVERY Dark Timeline ship you can (at the same time). Or, maybe, against every other ship "From Hell" and watch the chaos ensue! Also, see how many ME Galaxy X's FH it takes to dent the Exile! Bridge Commander is DEFINITELY gonna crash!!

@keyboardt8276 6 ай бұрын

The secondary hull probably contains another warp core, so it likely doubled the ship's output or more in addition to the addition of actual shields, possibly more/better torpedo launchers in the secondary hull, updated phasers. Arguably the NX refit is a larger leap over the NX than the Constitution is over the NX refit imo.

@SkywalkerFilms1927 6 ай бұрын

The Galaxy X FH, Constitution FH, DS9 FH, Klingon Borg Hunter FH, Section 31 Defiant FH, and the Borg Rubik's Cube FH combined hopefully can destroy it (the Lantian drones being a big help).If you need more firepower, the Borg BC304, Wrath Super Hive, World Razor, and the YoH Voyager should help, even if all they do is distract the ME Galaxy X FH.

@raymondsims537 6 ай бұрын

the refit was refurbished as the Columbia class in tos it was a glorified freighter

@CelicaSound 6 ай бұрын

Another cool battle. I'm gonna keep pestering you until you cave🤣. 1x Achilles and 2 defiants vs a dominion battleship😋

@RetroBadgerGaming 6 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Caving… I’ve added it to the list. So will do it at some point, soon 🖖

@XHunter442 6 ай бұрын

Ty for the video and LLAP!

@RetroBadgerGaming 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching 🖖

@orrialerockthunder5765 6 ай бұрын

Hi how are you doing? Love is stuff

@danspawn85 6 ай бұрын

The NX refit has 2 warp cores. a warp 5 engine and a warp 7 engine.

@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 6 ай бұрын

With the installation of the Warp 7 engine, the NX Refit was probably at least twice as powerful as the original NX Class, if not three times more powerful. The power generation difference between an engine capable of Warp 5 and one capable of Warp 7 is vast.The problem with the NX Refit was probably that it was too small to really take advantage of the new weapons systems the new engine could power. The NX is really a small ship with only tiny spaces for its weapons. Their phase cannons were tiny compared to the Connie's and even then they could only carry three.

@Euripides_Panz 6 ай бұрын

Three cannons were originally installed by the crew until a total of eight were integrated by the time Enterprise launched for the Expanse.

@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 6 ай бұрын

@@Euripides_Panz That's right! Thanks.

@RetroBadgerGaming 6 ай бұрын

Crazy how much faster the warp 7 ships are compared to warp 5. I imagine that was a massive speed jump. Imagine how much that would have altered space exploration. Thanks for the info, as always 🖖

@scottjgray83 12 күн бұрын

its roughly 3 times the speed (125xc to 343xc) but around 10 times the megawatts per Cochrane, which might not mean 10 time the power, am not sure but defiantly a vast upgrade in power generation like you said.

@ringo1029384756 6 ай бұрын

Before watching... I'm going with the Constitution Class... those phasers are just awesome. The NX class ships shouldn't even stand a chance.

@XHunter442 6 ай бұрын

Mirror Darkly ALL OVER AGAIN lol

@SkywalkerFilms1927 6 ай бұрын

Good battle; though I am surprised you lasted long enough to cause critical damage, seeing what the USS Defiant did to the ISS Avenger, though much of that damage was done by the torpedoes, which never hit you. 🖖

@TOK150 6 ай бұрын

Constitution vs 3 mirror NX please

@ozelhassan8576 6 ай бұрын

Oh yeah I really did enjoy the video. Question: is there a Strange New Worlds Enterprise that you could showcase as the Enterprise 1701 that you showed was Kirk’s Enterprise and it was AWESOME

@keyboardt8276 6 ай бұрын

There is a mod for the strange new worlds enterprise, I think badger has used it before

@RetroBadgerGaming 6 ай бұрын

Indeed. Although it is the version from discovery, which does have some differences. I’m tempted to do a massive battle Royale and throw all of the enterprises in. 🖖

@Someonehahaha 6 ай бұрын

You must of gotten a very lucky hit.

@fredconnelly5846 6 ай бұрын

Enterprise should cash theses two ships NX-01 REFIT with one a done.

@ricgillingham8056 6 ай бұрын

2161 the NX class of star ships were retired to make room for more advanced star ships ...😊

@pyrolight7568 6 ай бұрын

I love how they call it a refit...

@richardched6085 6 ай бұрын

Short answer: no Long answer: no by an order of magnitude The TOS Connie could take on the entire mid 22nd Century Starfleet by itself.

@keyboardt8276 6 ай бұрын

Honestly it was probably more than an order of magnitude, the 22nd century ships firing all they had at the Defiant didn't even scratch the paint when it was unshielded

@ejasonrichmond 6 ай бұрын

In short, no. There is a 100 year difference in technology and power.

@mathewfamer8183 6 ай бұрын

I do like the original NX class.

@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 6 ай бұрын

That AI was terrible. One has to really suck to lose that battle. The Connie is vastly superior to the NX refit. In "A Mirror Darkly" we saw the USS Defiant take out a small fleet of NX era ships, including the considerably superior (to the NX Class) Vulcan, Tellarite and Andorian warships as if it were nothing.

@easy2120 6 ай бұрын

How about an M5 NCC-1701?

@sirjanin 6 ай бұрын

I wonder why the nx never used again those red proyectile weapon. The only time when we see it its on the first episode and then they are not mentioned again ever. Wich is funny considering that we always see those launchers on all the shots of the ships.

@keyboardt8276 6 ай бұрын

Maybe that weapon was so bad that it was a waste of power to use it, might as well direct that power to the phase cannons and photonic torpedo launchers

@RetroBadgerGaming 6 ай бұрын

That’s a good point. As keyboardt8276 says, maybe they were next to useless, the Sulliban probably had a good laugh at those. I’m guessing they were very old tech by that point. They did look cool though 🖖

@richardched6085 6 ай бұрын

Obviously the modded ships are not going to perform identically to how they would in-universe (as there's no way to accurately determine the stats, we cwn only guess lol)

@alexslgato1735 6 ай бұрын

Something weird happened with the Tactical display menu with a huge button there at 0:55, does it happen still if you keep doing a battle with that TOS Enterprise and a friendly or enemy WC Columbia?

@RetroBadgerGaming 6 ай бұрын

I’m not sure. I’ve noticed kobayashimaru can do this sometimes. Especially when you’re on your 5th or 6th match and it hasn’t crashed yet… I think it’s a sign it’s becoming unstable 🖖

@alexslgato1735 6 ай бұрын

@@RetroBadgerGaming I've also seen that happen sometimes (mostly) with Stock, and even once with Remastered, I think it might be a script issue somewhere. Just, if it happens again with an specific set of ships in an specific order, we may narrow the causes down to an specific script and finally have it patched.

@ubettergetit 6 ай бұрын

Have you done NX Refit versus Romulans or Klingons of the time

@RetroBadgerGaming 6 ай бұрын

I’ve done the original NX class against the Klingons. I’ll add your idea to the list though 👍🖖

@imim995 2 ай бұрын

Connie Refit Refit v 2 columbia's and two nx refits

@geofftottenperthcoys9944 6 ай бұрын

Too bad we never got season 5 of Enterprise.

@RetroBadgerGaming 6 ай бұрын

Indeed! Season 4 was very much a return to Star Trek.

@tomtimtomtim 6 ай бұрын

Turn off single phaser 😊

@orrialerockthunder5765 6 ай бұрын

❤❤😂😂❤

@Jarsia 6 ай бұрын

Should have made the story a bit juicier. We could say that's actually the Defiant and after 23rd century tech started to be distributed to the Terran Empire, Empress Sato found herself facing a rebellion and was forced to flee to the 22nd century prime universe where she planned to conquer the weakened UFP in the wake of the romulan war, and captains Archer and Hernandez were dispatched to stop her.

@jamesbarrow904 6 ай бұрын

I'm wondering if Georgiou (Empress and Prime universe) is related to Hoshi Sato in some way.

@Jarsia 6 ай бұрын

@@jamesbarrow904 Unlikely. Sato is Japanese. Georgiou, like Yeoh, is Malaysian