Can Piracy Cost More Than Subscriptions?

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Mental Outlaw

Mental Outlaw

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Is it possible that Piracy can cost more than just paying for subscriptions? I guess if you're downloading ~30TB of data and keeping forever it can.
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@Mediiiicc
@Mediiiicc 2 жыл бұрын
His problem isn't pirating, it's data hoarding.
@clementpoon120
@clementpoon120 2 жыл бұрын
he can probably stream it
@user-tq7bq3qf3k
@user-tq7bq3qf3k 2 жыл бұрын
If you want long term availability, then you need hoarders.
@Keirnoth
@Keirnoth 2 жыл бұрын
yep, dude has mental issues.
@KotleKettle
@KotleKettle 2 жыл бұрын
I can't put my finger on how is it a problem 🤔 There are lots of good rare movies and shows you probably never heard of, and it takes ages and luck to download them at 34 kb/s. After that struggle, I just can't let them die.
@Scylithen
@Scylithen 2 жыл бұрын
His problem isn't data hoarding, it's not hoarding enough.
@Cyranek
@Cyranek 2 жыл бұрын
"Running my own instance of netflix costs more than a subscription to it"
@Papapoley
@Papapoley 2 жыл бұрын
didn't know u watch mental outlaw
@YouKnowMeDuh
@YouKnowMeDuh 2 жыл бұрын
No friggen duh! What a perfect summary 💀 Please find that post and tell that dude the exact same thing lmao.
@kiloton1920
@kiloton1920 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of instance use the word version
@CHERRY_ED
@CHERRY_ED 2 жыл бұрын
hello cyranek :D didnt know you watch his videoss lol
@Blondul11
@Blondul11 6 ай бұрын
I have a Plex server running on a raspberry pi 4 with a 6 TB HDD. All cost me less than £160. Not having Netflix for the past 2 years definitely saved me more money. And I’ll keep this for years to come
@Zxv975
@Zxv975 2 жыл бұрын
This post is the real life equivalent of that "I spend $3000/month on candles. Please help me budget, my family is starving" meme.
@Desker_
@Desker_ 2 жыл бұрын
"piracy is expensive" Actually really dumb of him to generalize like that. Most people that pirate stuff, won't EVER need a $1200 with fucking 30TB of storage, to do it, they will simply download a movie/series, watch, and delete it, MOST people only ever watch something 1 or 2 times (with some exceptions for our favorites movies/shows, but still, not even remotely close to 30TB...). It makes literally no sense for him to state that piracy is expensive simply because the way he does it, is indeed expensive. As said in the video, it is not about piracy, it's about long-term data storage, and that is INDEED expensive. Again, the title is right "*I* probably spent more on piracy that if I just paid for content", but the statement after that is incredible dumb.
@victorhugo-wo2ci
@victorhugo-wo2ci 2 жыл бұрын
He probably has 10 or 20 of those terabytes occupied by pornography
@Irewiking88
@Irewiking88 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day of high seas, I would download generally 480 or 720 quality, watch and delete or keep it if enjoyed it a lot. I use to be in the navy in a ship a lot, and shared videos with others and received videos. 30 terabytes is unfathomable to me. He needs to watch more and clean out his hard drives before getting more stuff, as he has years worth of things to watch already
@gonks7071
@gonks7071 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but hes an actual data pirate, most people just pirate on occasions for specific pieces of media. Yall are literally in different boats
@gonks7071
@gonks7071 2 жыл бұрын
Like yall are missing the fact that its not purely for “himself”, but for the purpose of hording the data
@64bitmodels66
@64bitmodels66 2 жыл бұрын
also hoarding it makes sense, one of the main reasons people pirate is so that the content never gets removed deleted or lost. downloading it and deleting it is impractical since youre putting yourself at the mercy of the server and whether the content will be there in the future if you want to revisit it
@tikoblocks3224
@tikoblocks3224 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe piracy could cost more if you buy high amounts of storage, but even if the cost was higher than subscriptions. I would still argue that piracy is worth it, considering the fact that you have more control over the content you torrent. The office might get pulled from Netflix, but it won't be pulled from your hard drive or media server.
@renatosardinhalopes6073
@renatosardinhalopes6073 2 жыл бұрын
until police raids your house, lol
@rawhide_kobayashi
@rawhide_kobayashi 2 жыл бұрын
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@renatosardinhalopes6073
@renatosardinhalopes6073 2 жыл бұрын
@@rawhide_kobayashi which totally safeguards your information!!!
@killingtimeitself
@killingtimeitself 2 жыл бұрын
and its not like you cant do anything else with the hardware either
@renatosardinhalopes6073
@renatosardinhalopes6073 2 жыл бұрын
@@DG-wr6cl in some governments they already know if you have pirated content in your computer btw
@abakedpotato1486
@abakedpotato1486 2 жыл бұрын
30tb of unseeded content is the equivalent of hoarding mail. Yeah it may be important but after reading it once chances are you’re never going to touch it again
@mycelia_ow
@mycelia_ow 2 жыл бұрын
Yes don't think I'll need season 6 of BCS 5, or 10 years from now. If I'd need to store stuff, flash memory is dirt cheap these days. SD, flashdrives, don't even need external ssds but they're also cheap. The data on them will cease use to me looong before the device storing it does. Most people don't need to spend thousands on archival drives to hoard pirated material.
@gregdaweson4657
@gregdaweson4657 2 жыл бұрын
@@mycelia_ow Could even be used against them in court.
@improvisedchaos8904
@improvisedchaos8904 2 жыл бұрын
@@mycelia_ow unless they remove pirating sites and selling pirated media on cds becomes a thing. Your hoarded media becomes a stockpile of content to illegally sell.
@ryngobrody1627
@ryngobrody1627 2 жыл бұрын
@@improvisedchaos8904 tons of people in India and China sell pirated content on CDs lmao
@improvisedchaos8904
@improvisedchaos8904 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryngobrody1627 same down in Peru when I was there. Guys literally on street corners flipping movie screens. If they made content harder to access we could have a new lucrative black market to replace the weed one that's going away. Hustlers need to stock up with the favorites.
@theohallenius8882
@theohallenius8882 2 жыл бұрын
If internet goes down and we enter an apocalypse for 10 years this guy is going to be alright as far as entertainment goes xD That is assuming he stored enough food too.
@hmnc444
@hmnc444 2 жыл бұрын
Assuming theres still power.
@edwardecl
@edwardecl 6 ай бұрын
Assuming EMP doesn't kill all the electronics.
@RusticRonnie
@RusticRonnie 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@edwardeclgreat news, That isn’t how that works.
@dboyedoe
@dboyedoe 6 ай бұрын
He boutta download some mashed potatoes.
@Hawk7886
@Hawk7886 6 ай бұрын
​@@RusticRonniesure it is.
@bence0302bence
@bence0302bence 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, this guy must have the ISO of every version of every single Linux distro ever. A true archiver 🙏
@nerdicusdorkum2923
@nerdicusdorkum2923 2 жыл бұрын
Casual pirate here, and I can say it certainly saves me money, and ESPECIALLY convenience. At any time, I can watch the shows I want to watch, without having to make an account, log in, pay for yet another different subscription or any of that fucking shit. Same with video games too. Just got to go to my big ol games folder, click on the game I want, and if I really want to, click on every other file and folder to actively tweak, mod, or fix it! Best/worst part, I would be more then willing to actually pay for the services that I do use to pirate from, as they actually offer a SUPERIOR service then the fucking legalese bound bullshit riddled with exclusivity deals, walled gardens, lack of actual ownership, etc.
@encycl07pedia-
@encycl07pedia- 2 жыл бұрын
lol. Yeah, stealing stuff is generally cheaper than paying for it, assuming you don't get caught. It's still wrong and an awful thing to do. Here's a crazy idea: if you can't afford it or don't want to deal with the BS, don't buy or steal it! The anti-consumerism that has especially invaded the video game industry is the reason why my most recent TV console is the Xbox 360. I don't go around illegally downloading games or going to Best Buy or Walmart and stealing discs. The sad/hilarious part is that things like you are the reason "freemium", pay-to-win, season passes, and heavy microtransactions exist in modern gaming. You can't (easily) steal those. You things have ruined the video game industry and probably more. There's no subscription or pay wall restricting me from playing my games and I don't pirate them, either. You're just sc.m. Don't pretend you would pay for stuff when you've stolen so much without paying.
@vivaene
@vivaene 2 жыл бұрын
idk i fully agree with pirating TV shows/movies but the video game industry is very very consumer friendly rn (as in steam, gog, humble bundle, etc.) if youre pirating games in the name of anti corrupt corporatism then, well, i think you're just flat out wrong. - note: not sober so if this is a bad take sorry
@Merudiana-the-local-demoness
@Merudiana-the-local-demoness 2 жыл бұрын
@@vivaene Pirating games is okay if it’s made by a company like EA. Personally I used to pirate games years ago just because I didn’t have a job yet (too young) so I was broke. Now that I do have a job, I use Steam for everything and I also bought pretty much everything I pirated.
@plebestrian9323
@plebestrian9323 2 жыл бұрын
absolutely no remorse about pirating video games, i'm not gonna buy stuff blindly.
@orlandofurioso7329
@orlandofurioso7329 2 жыл бұрын
@@vivaene i pirate Epic games and Battlenet exclusives, GOG and Steam are great. Battlenet stupid censorship and DRM drives me mad
@jasdanvm3845
@jasdanvm3845 2 жыл бұрын
OP case is very ridiculous. If he paid for the content, he wouldn't be able to download it and keep it this way, can't he just do the same for pirated stuff, watch it, then delete it, and maybe download it again when needed? And, he still needs something to watch the content in, so he would still pay to maintain a computer/TV! This is not because he pirates, it's because he is a big data hoarder.
@joeykeilholz925
@joeykeilholz925 2 жыл бұрын
The content would be lower quality as well. But agree that it's a false dichotomy
@Cocog232
@Cocog232 2 жыл бұрын
thats leeching ew
@errorlooo8124
@errorlooo8124 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cocog232 I mean you could just wait until a certain ratio before deleting, so even then you still don't need 30tb
@barreltitor1419
@barreltitor1419 6 ай бұрын
​@@errorlooo8124 If everyone did that for obscure shows there would be no seeders = dead content. Hoarding is pretty important imo.
@nizzuta2611
@nizzuta2611 6 ай бұрын
@@barreltitor1419 But OP is not seeding them AFAIK. So no purpose of having that much data saved
@Ryan1456100
@Ryan1456100 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest thing for me is ownership. When I want to buy things like movies, I want to OWN them. I don't like being at the behest of the will of any company and whether they decide to renew a contract or decide "Oh! Lets invest in our own streaming service, we have a *great* catalog of content people will pay for!" My biggest thing is buying movies on Google Play, need a way to get them off somehow before Google does it for me for one reason or another. I will gladly go out of my way to actually own my content.
@codelif
@codelif 2 жыл бұрын
You mean linux ISOs right?
@switt4088
@switt4088 2 жыл бұрын
You will own nothing and you will be happy
@TheSpiritedFendron
@TheSpiritedFendron 2 жыл бұрын
Why not watch them online?
@shineayandrews1869
@shineayandrews1869 2 жыл бұрын
@@switt4088 Maybe you will, but I have 20 drives and even more flash drives full of pirated stuff since 2010. I’ll own what I want and not use any of it.
@eneco3965
@eneco3965 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSpiritedFendron Why would you when you can just download them? There's no need for an internet connection, so you can watch them whenever you want.
@Anon_Spartan
@Anon_Spartan 2 жыл бұрын
I used to hoard a lot of scanned tabletop games stuff, after a while the lust for digital treasure turns you into a dragon. It's a lot of fun. Plus when someone on a forum asks for something and you know exactly what they want because you've got tags and folders like crazy, it's a really good feeling to upload it somewhere for that guy to grab.
@harrytsang1501
@harrytsang1501 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a torrent for your collection?
@cd-yx3nv
@cd-yx3nv 2 жыл бұрын
If it's on a hard disk I get the comfort of knowing I'll have it as long as I want. No censorship, no removal.
@salpertia
@salpertia 2 жыл бұрын
Till that fucker goes kaput. But what's the shelf life on the average drive?
@SergioLeonardoCornejo
@SergioLeonardoCornejo 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@tacticalguy6473
@tacticalguy6473 2 жыл бұрын
Please do Back up from time to time
@justins7796
@justins7796 2 жыл бұрын
exactly this. it's a mindset really
@joshallen128
@joshallen128 2 жыл бұрын
No no they can't take that away from me.. fred astaire
@FlavorsomeMusic
@FlavorsomeMusic 2 жыл бұрын
His logic is flawed, he's not paying for piracy, he's paying for his obsessive need to have a local copy. You can pirate all you want with a 100gb hdd. And 45$ of power per month ? Is electricity that much more expensive in the US (edit: I do realize he mentioned not in the us, but my point still stands, just wasn't paying attention >
@whitewolf262
@whitewolf262 2 жыл бұрын
Even then, it sounds like this idiot doesn't use compression at all.
@justarandompersoniguess
@justarandompersoniguess 2 жыл бұрын
They specifically said NOT the US.
@FlavorsomeMusic
@FlavorsomeMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@justarandompersoniguess Oh, I didn't notice that, but in which country are they paying 45$ a month to run a pc ? considering that, it's like 20$ to boil 1l of water every day with electricity ? lol. For reference, running a pc 24/7 in my home country for a month costs about 6.97 USD (am not in the us). Did the research just now to get the exact numbers. >
@Basement-Science
@Basement-Science 2 жыл бұрын
The whole power cost argument is complete bs anyway... There's no point running your PC all day just because it holds some movies. You just run it when you want to watch something, pirated or streamed from a subscription, and you can download stuff at the same time and during normal use. You can even start watching something before you finish downloading it as well.. that's kinda what streaming is in the first place.
@RealNovgorod
@RealNovgorod 2 жыл бұрын
Even the most inefficient PC with lots of drives won't use more than 100W idling - even at the out-of-control EU prices it's about 20 eurobucks per month in the absolutely worst case. At that price it's more economic to invest in a NAS or an Atom-based storage server, which will pay for itself in a year by saving on power. Nobody has to pay more than a Netflix subscription worth in electricity even for the biggest personal storage solution. Likewise the investment in hard drives to store 10 years worth of content costs maybe as much as a year of having "all the streaming subscriptions" and is only necessary if you want to have everything instantly available for rewatching - and let's be honest, none of us ever touches more than 1% of our vast archives a second time.
@youreyesarebleeding1368
@youreyesarebleeding1368 2 жыл бұрын
I picked up a 16TB drive for like $250, and I really underestimated how much that is, because I have downloaded so much content at this point that if the internet ceased to exist tomorrow, I would have enough fresh content for the rest of my life. I've got hundreds of anime/manga series, hundreds of books, complete ROM sets for several different retro consoles, dozens of ps2/gamecube ISOs, a local copy of wikipedia, and other miscellaneous stuff. The best part is that I've used less than 20% of the available space in the drive, and that's with me _trying_ to fill it. It was definitely a good purchase
@kezif
@kezif 6 ай бұрын
impressive. Did you touch a grass tho?
@KangMinseok
@KangMinseok 6 ай бұрын
60 tb here, I know that feeling (90% content for my kids though).
@potffin
@potffin 6 ай бұрын
Cool wanna share a seed? Just asking for a friend
@stavinaircaeruleum2275
@stavinaircaeruleum2275 6 ай бұрын
A entire copy of Wikipedia?
@ayooshiyer8621
@ayooshiyer8621 6 ай бұрын
@@stavinaircaeruleum2275 it's surprisingly manageable size without the images
@mononobius
@mononobius 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your videos. The thing with the person in question is something which I totally understand. I live in a country where everything is banned, 80% of the useful parts of the internet is blocked by the regime (even Signal, Telegram, Pinterest and ....), also international bandwidth to those parts of the internet which are not banned yet, is reduced as hell to make you use the domestic services which are a piece of crap. I'm writing this comment using a VPN (a private VPN which I deployed because all public VPN servers get banned periodically untill they provide new servers), because KZfaq is also banned here, if you didn't know. And 80% of those 20% of the unbanned part of the internet is blocked by their providers, yeah google is one of them (google tasks, YT music, Docker!, Google Dev and ....) Fun fact: YT Music is blocked by both regime and google, so they are on the same side for us, but for different reasons. And regardless of all the things I mentioned above, we don't have international payments here so we can not subscribe to any of those services even if we would want to. So I have a PC with 16TB storage and about 8300 movie titles since 1918 (I don't like series much) and I'm going to buy another 16TB storage for the next decade. Many years ago I developed an app to manage my movies, then I found Plex which is a great replacement for my homegrown app. So I totally understand why someone would have to store everything they need locally, because we don't know what would happen tomorrow to our country, they may even shutdown the entire international internet for more surveillance over citizens (they did this as a test for a week on Nov 2019 protests and killed many) And also I can not seed anything efficiently, because all internet service providers limited their upload speeds at extreme low (100 KB) for cable and about (400 KB) for mobile 4G. This is because the regime (which is a thug regime if you didn't know) wants to prevent quick spreading of news and videos when an uprising happens. Which is actually happening right now in some parts of our country. So this is it. And I use NewPipe as youtube client and it's awesome, just came to youtube to be able to comment on your video. And if you wanna know, I live in Iran.
@SergioLeonardoCornejo
@SergioLeonardoCornejo 2 жыл бұрын
That's because he chooses to. Sailing the seven seas costs as much as he chooses.
@myusername0wns
@myusername0wns 2 жыл бұрын
My piracy cost is 0$ because I need a computer for work anyway so it's a separate mandatory expense. The fact that I pirate movies on it is just a free additional feature.
@ee-ef8qr
@ee-ef8qr 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't that extremely risky, if your job checks the computer?
@edwardecl
@edwardecl 6 ай бұрын
@@ee-ef8qr I'd be more worried about the porn videos.
@ninetysixvoid
@ninetysixvoid 6 ай бұрын
​@@ee-ef8qrhow?
@erlgr
@erlgr 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think the way is to pirate stuff from evil corporations (Netflix, Disney, Hulu...) And to support some smaller independent artists/creators using things like Patreon, Bandcamp, ko-fi, etc. I don't mind spending my money, but I'd rather know that my money is going to the creator directly instead of some huge corporation that will only pay them a cut. (Yes I'm aware that Patreon for example takes a share of the money etc etc)
@JodyBruchon
@JodyBruchon 2 жыл бұрын
Hey MO, I'm a data hoarder. I'd love to do an interview with you about my setup. Over 100TB and I don't use RAID-1 or tapes.
@levelup1279
@levelup1279 2 жыл бұрын
Interviews are kinda gay, but I would like to see him make a video about you where you answer questions. Showing clips & highlights of an interview to supplement the story, so more like a mini-doccumentry format about you & your massive collection. That would be a cool good video, I would give it a thumbs up. Hopefully he does it.
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan 2 жыл бұрын
It's not about practicality. It's about sending a message
@meepk633
@meepk633 6 ай бұрын
It's about watching movies without paying for them. It's about stealing from other people because your parents cut off your allowance at the tender age of 27 and McDonalds kept cutting your hours for some unknown reason (probably favoritism) even though they desperately need help on drive thru.
@fordprefect859
@fordprefect859 2 жыл бұрын
At that point, get a job at the Internet Archive. You want more terabytes? Those lunatics are trying to store the literal internet. They have thousands of multi-petabyte databases. Can you even imagine if all those servers started seeding at once? It would basically be a DDoS.
@whuspr
@whuspr 2 жыл бұрын
They’re gonna be the first to colonize Mars only for the purpose of storage back home.
@Rctdcttecededtef
@Rctdcttecededtef 2 жыл бұрын
I don't anything about anything but isn't trying to archive the internet a fools errand? Solely based on the rate of new things being put on to the internet?
@prettyboyjeremy
@prettyboyjeremy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rctdcttecededtef Well yes and, no. There's a lot of garbage on the internet no views youtube videos. If you start exclusively persevering stuff with a minimum 1 million views + or it's popular equivalent the number drops from the entirety of the internet to 15 dragon caves full of petabyte drives Extremely hard and requires compression yet not impossible just a full time job
@chunkymunky4165
@chunkymunky4165 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! I laughed so hard at that. Well played good sir, well played.
@khai96x
@khai96x 2 жыл бұрын
As a Vietnamese, I can confirm that our streaming services are too based to comply with copyright law. Torrent still has better image quality though.
@bjornroesbeke
@bjornroesbeke 2 жыл бұрын
When i want to watch something, even if i haven't looked at it in years, i find it much easier to navigate to the file in question than having to try downloading it again. A good pirate is joyful if he sees "seeders: 1" in his torrent client. A good pirate doesn't limit his down/up ratio. One of my files has a ratio of 2560:1.
@diwajerebation4077
@diwajerebation4077 2 жыл бұрын
based.
@civismesecret
@civismesecret 6 ай бұрын
Much basado. Thanks for your service soldier!
@x12_79
@x12_79 2 жыл бұрын
As someone using a macbook with under 300Gb of storage and wanting to get a 1Tb hard drive as a luxury, I can't imagine someone needing to expand a 30Tb what sounds like dedicated storage.
@Umbruheon2048
@Umbruheon2048 2 жыл бұрын
i only have like 1.5 tb of storage
@toastybread_ch
@toastybread_ch 2 жыл бұрын
I have a shitload of music, games, and anime on my computer, I have only 255 GB of storage and yet 50 GB of it are still free... so I think this guy must have some kind of skill issue
@fiddlesticks7245
@fiddlesticks7245 2 жыл бұрын
Mental illness
@Kevin_Anderson
@Kevin_Anderson 2 жыл бұрын
Once you get automation services like Sonarr and Radarr set up it's extremely easy to fill up space, _especially_ if you use the default download profiles, which include remuxes. FLAC vs AAC audio and remux vs rip files will have immensely different file sizes. Also if you're running something like Plex and have an ancient processor that can't handle transcoding and don't want to get a gpu then you have to download h.264, which is at least 3x bigger than h.265 a lot of the time. Anyway, it really depends on your quality preference. Some people would rather just have a bigger hard drive if it means eking out the tiniest quality gains from their 1080p movie by going from a 1.5GB file to a 25GB file. Also, like I said, if you don't configure it explicitly to ignore those things, sometimes automation softwares will grab them without you knowing.
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan 2 жыл бұрын
@@PefectPiePlace2 True. I could fill up a couple tb with thousands of more books or way fewer movies, shows, and music
@crzyruskie86
@crzyruskie86 2 жыл бұрын
It blows my mind that in the US where I live, I can't legally rip a blu ray THAT I OWN and make a digitized backup of it. Not for sharing, not for anything other than being able to throw it on a home server and stream it to MY other devices. I supported the company and bought the physical media, why would you block me from making a backup of something I own? If I don't actually own it then why wasn't I provided a free copy of it to watch? If you intended to tell me I don't own these things then why would I pay money to buy the media?
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the US had laws that you could legally make back ups of stuff. What gives? If I had to guess, probably some bullshit Sony did? Help prevent stuff from getting sneeded.
@encycl07pedia-
@encycl07pedia- 2 жыл бұрын
1. While there is quite a bit of overlap, immoral and illegal are distinct. 2. It's only illegal to crack the copy protection. There are various ways around copy protection that aren't illegal, like stream conversions.
@Mr.Beauregarde
@Mr.Beauregarde 2 жыл бұрын
Umm... you may?
@tommyaudio
@tommyaudio 2 жыл бұрын
because u can't have nice things. just because u won't abuse it doesn't mean it won't get abused (my comment does not address whether or not any of this is right or wrong) just answering your question
@crzyruskie86
@crzyruskie86 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamk.7177 Even if this is true they are no longer making drives that allow you to get around the DRM.
@tylerpryjda1253
@tylerpryjda1253 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is doing what I plan to - I currently have 1tb full with a list when I upgrade to ~20 with raid 6. I collect roms, and as of rn, I have nearly full sets of various systems. My end goal is a media server with decades of content to pass on to others via a private shared network. I don't seed, but I do share and archive. If the main copies ever go down, I'll have one to use
@NikiDaDude
@NikiDaDude 2 жыл бұрын
Content gets removed for arbitrary reasons, it's region locked or service locked, it can get "remastered" and the originals can be completely removed etc. Local storage is the only way to actually own the data rather than just pay for permission to access it, even if piracy was more expensive, which it isn't, I'd still do it for that reason alone. If you're smart about it you don't even have to spend too much to build a home server and be completely free from the shackles of DRM. I've got about 14TB of storage space on my home server and I've spent a minimal amount of money on it, if electricity is expensive where you live you can set up Wake On LAN and only use the computer when you need it. It's just an old PC and old HDDs or HDDs ripped out of enclosures since you can get them for about half the price of just the HDD when they're on sale though you don't have warranty in that case of course.
@rawhide_kobayashi
@rawhide_kobayashi 2 жыл бұрын
oh, I've definitely spent more on piracy than I would have on streaming services... including buying blurays (and sharing them!)
@nobafan7515
@nobafan7515 2 жыл бұрын
Not spending 10 times on a subscription on a censored version instead of the affordable physical version? You're stealing money from megacorporations!
@SirRichard94
@SirRichard94 2 жыл бұрын
based. thanks!
@hikkamorii
@hikkamorii 2 жыл бұрын
And if you're collector, you're also getting a bonus of having a physical medium on the shelf :)
@mathisblair2798
@mathisblair2798 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sweet dragon maid
@steriftes
@steriftes 2 жыл бұрын
based weeb
@stefannilsson2406
@stefannilsson2406 2 жыл бұрын
2:30 Why would you ever put 30 TB of harddrives in raid 1? Raid 1 means that every harddrive is a copy of the first. Unless you create several pools of 2 drives each. You still lose half your capacity though and you would be better off using one large raid 10 pool because you would get better performance. A better option though would be raid 5 or 6 depending on how much redundancy you want. The best option would probably be TrueNAS so that you can use ZSF.
@agentseed
@agentseed 2 жыл бұрын
you watch ltt
@p5eudo883
@p5eudo883 2 жыл бұрын
@@agentseed Or listened to the BSD Now podcast.
@tralphstreet
@tralphstreet 2 жыл бұрын
I find it funny that this video started with "HackerNews, like reddit but for people who actually understand techonology" and then we get this lol.
@snwtime
@snwtime 2 жыл бұрын
zfs should just be available for any* Linux, right?
@dominic6542
@dominic6542 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have my 60tb usable 80tb raw (8x10tb hard drives) in raidz2 with ZFS in proxmox and it's working pretty well for data hoarding. Idc how much money I spend on it as long as I'm not supporting evil corporations that delete shows you like and add shows that are literal garbage
@kurono1822
@kurono1822 2 жыл бұрын
Here in México, if you don't have a good enough internet connection (20 USD a month) you can buy some bootleg blurays for like 2 bucks, sometimes they pack whole series in a couple of blu ray discs in lower quality but at least you don't need internet.
@danieldooley1366
@danieldooley1366 4 ай бұрын
Man I just have to say you quickly took first place in the top five KZfaq cyber channels no disrespect to the other guys and gals but you seem to get the most useful and valuable information across with minimal fluff and maximum Contant in a humble way and you’re clearly on the level so it’s immensely educational at least somebody like me, thanks!!
@vk7750
@vk7750 2 жыл бұрын
"and I would never break those rules, because that would be BAD"
@isbestlizard
@isbestlizard 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like the idea that other people are monetising my choices, tracking me constantly and building a database on me to earn that fraction of a cent more on their quarterly profits. I hate that.
@justintime8793
@justintime8793 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why I switched to Linux less bloat and tracking. Oh more stable is a big plus.
@JohnDoe-qz9ji
@JohnDoe-qz9ji 2 жыл бұрын
Is it OK if I am fine with them doing that, I know it doesn't hold true always but corpo ads arent gonna influence me anywhere near the average consumer but them making profits its just too much work for me to do to actual avoid that(or pls tell me a easy and convenient way to do so).
@victorhugo-wo2ci
@victorhugo-wo2ci 2 жыл бұрын
@@justintime8793 cue the windows nerd argueing that bill gates is actually his friend
@saltdad5263
@saltdad5263 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ari-athbadminton0301 as a zoomer i find it ridiculous how illiterate people at my age are at performing basic tasks on computers and even their own phones. i really do think that in this day and age more people should gain at least basic tech literacy due to how much more common technology is used to perform important tasks. i knew more about computers when i was ten years old than half the people who are my age now (around 18 in my case). these people make fun of boomers for being bad at tech yet they dont even know how to do anything other than watch youtube and tiktoks on their devices. worst part is when these people cant even be fucked to google how to get stuff to work themselves and go bug other people about it :/
@awesomeferret
@awesomeferret 2 жыл бұрын
You actually DO like them tracking you constantly (why do so few people think this through?). What you don't like is them monetizing it. Basically, if you don't want them to track your every move while on the service, then you simply don't get any kind of revelant recommendations, and at that point might as well just start buying physical media if you already know what you want to watch before you sit down to watch.
@nexusanphans3813
@nexusanphans3813 2 жыл бұрын
Now I know who has been seeding my Linux ISOs for me. Thank you, Sir.
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply 6 ай бұрын
No, I agree. After pirating all the new games, the new PC I built to play them cost me WAY more than a Netflix subscription. ... I may have misunderstood this video. (also my video card literally caught on fire last June so I haven't played a game since then)
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@alexturnbackthearmy1907 6 ай бұрын
Hey, did your screen flickered all the time when loading games/new pages? Because i am afraid that my very old trooper might give up soon.
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply 6 ай бұрын
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 No, it was due to my water loop leaking fluid down the motherboard and shorting the power rails to the PCIE 16x slot and most of the RAM
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply 6 ай бұрын
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 If you press CTRL+SHIFT+Windows_Key+B it will reset your GPU. I've been making use of that for my iGFX when it gets overwhelemed
@jfarre20
@jfarre20 2 жыл бұрын
im at 96tb but building and maintaining the array is part of the fun. its a hobby and thats better to spend $ on than subscriptions.
@killingtimeitself
@killingtimeitself 2 жыл бұрын
gotta have something to do with the server hardware if you mess with it for a hobby right
@kirbase3183
@kirbase3183 2 жыл бұрын
I'd rather maintain my Storage Cluster, then try and figure out if the series I want to watch requires 4 different services or not.
@robobrain10000
@robobrain10000 2 жыл бұрын
ye, and at the end of the day you will have something to show for it. Quick question. How long do the HDD-s last? From my research it lasts for about 5 yrs of active use? So, do you just buy new HDD-s every 5 yrs and then transfer the content? How does this work?
@cd-yx3nv
@cd-yx3nv 2 жыл бұрын
Continue the accumulation my brother. Stay blessed 🕋
@snap_oversteer
@snap_oversteer 2 жыл бұрын
@@robobrain10000 I have 1TB WD Blacks from 2010 running nonstop since 2013, no problems so far with any of them, but YMMV.
@mjdxp5688
@mjdxp5688 2 жыл бұрын
Remember, piracy is NEVER okay, unless you have a big ship, a hat with a skull and crossbones, a pegleg, a hook for a hand, a parrot on your shoulder, and a treasure map leading to a faraway beach which leads to a buried treasure chest.
@vxicepickxv
@vxicepickxv 2 жыл бұрын
It's even more okay with a letter of Marque.
@obeeked1385
@obeeked1385 2 жыл бұрын
To a buried Linux ISO*
@Smougda
@Smougda 2 жыл бұрын
You only need a diesel ship and a ak47 (and being somali, but thats for extra points)
@imrobbinganyonewhotalkstom4881
@imrobbinganyonewhotalkstom4881 2 жыл бұрын
I say subscription is based.
@kuratse205
@kuratse205 2 жыл бұрын
Well, and for pirates of the caribbean 1-5.
@jjmaia
@jjmaia 2 жыл бұрын
On the topic of piracy (not data hoarding), a lot of the times the issue are the prices! I'm Portuguese, and video games have always been very, very expensive. Not only that, but they would neve drop down in price, not just Nintendo, but also Sega, Sony and Xbox! During the 2000s and 2010s, with online shopping me and many other Portuguese discovered online shopping and started buying online, mainly from the UK. Due to the EU there were no taxes, and even with a strong pound it would be so much cheaper. At launch they would probably cost the same, but while in Portugal a game stayed at full price for years, in the UK prices would start to drop after a few months. With this I completely stopped pirating games and built an huge collection, and the one who lost was the Portuguese state and Portuguese distribuiters.
@alexsm3882
@alexsm3882 5 ай бұрын
Piracy isn't even legally pursued here, the state dgaf
@screwthishi5thing
@screwthishi5thing 5 ай бұрын
Comprávamos na feira e vinha um jogo flash com o Super Merdio mas é disso que se fazem as memórias
@MintyLime703
@MintyLime703 2 жыл бұрын
I used to pirate games as a kid cause I had no money. Nowadays I do it out of principle. I treat digital media like freeware with a donation option. If you make good shit and you do so ethically then obviously we want more of that and you deserve my money. If not, tough luck. Not getting a dime from me for something I wouldn't even actually own. When done en masse this is the quickest and easiest way these companies will ever learn, but unfortunately people keep giving money to companies who openly hate them. Lots of people still think piracy is only about money, especially the companies trying to stop it. This guy's problem is obviously a form of digital hoarding, lol. I have a 10TB HDD that I'm only just now getting close to filling yet most of it are games. I couldn't imagine filling that shit up with shows and movies, like god damn. Is he downloading the highest quality shit every time? I have garbage AT&T internet with a 150gb cap and 600KB/s download yet I'm definitely not losing money by pirating compared to streaming all that data and paying for subscriptions.
@willy4170
@willy4170 2 жыл бұрын
Try to do the same the next time you are doing groceries, and tell the seller: “i treat groceries like freeware with donation option, if your fruits and vegetables are good enough, you deserve my money, if not, though luck, don’t expect a dime from me” and then walk away with a cart full of goods without paying anything.
@YouKnowMeDuh
@YouKnowMeDuh 2 жыл бұрын
There is a single game that I've been waiting for that I will be paying for: No More Room in Hell 2. Love and still play the first game. The devs are cool people and put in a lot of work into the 2nd game's development. It will only be $20 when early access comes out in October this year. I waited for Dying Light 2 and Back 4 Blood for just as long if not longer. I resigned to just watch a few playthroughs online and not purchase. Just didn't feel worth it (especially not B4B, the debacle that it is lol).
@YouKnowMeDuh
@YouKnowMeDuh 2 жыл бұрын
@@willy4170 Lol!
@chumtoad14
@chumtoad14 11 ай бұрын
​@@willy4170The difference is that the vegetables are gone and they've lost money, the game is still there and they haven't lost anything. do you think pirates would buy a game if it didn't have a release out yet?
@willy4170
@willy4170 11 ай бұрын
@@chumtoad14 ah yes, because the game don’t require any time and money to be produced, just because it’s a software and not something tangible like lettuce, that is the same as saying an employer is justified in refusing to pay an employee working as accountant, because the financial quarter report they just produced is still there, even if they don’t get paid for it, so they don’t loose any money, because outside of you, no one has bills to pay and earn a living, right? Saying we don’t need to buy games from companies, because we have piracy sites, has the same energy of: “We don’t need farmers, when we have grocery stores.”
@TCOphox
@TCOphox 2 жыл бұрын
The media company I work with handles 800+ TB on a daily basis and runs with 10Gbit fibre Internet and Networking. And I guess I've gotten so desensitised by it that when you said 30TB was a lot I was a bit stunned, then snapped back to reality.
@kurtmueller2089
@kurtmueller2089 2 жыл бұрын
"Its not about the money, its about sending a message"
@Seritias
@Seritias 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I've probably spent more on my current 30TB server and usenet over the years than I would have by subscribing to a couple streaming services in that same time but I like the convenience of not having to delete old stuff, having a backlog of new stuff to watch and just watch whatever I want regardless of who owns the rights
@mitk01
@mitk01 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably the stupidest anti-piracy argument I've ever seen 😂
@Delta8Raven
@Delta8Raven 2 жыл бұрын
Pre-timeskip one piece was one hell of a linux iso back in the day. After that there was just too much bloat and I was not a fan of the UI redesign. Oda is a hack programmer.
@Zathien
@Zathien 2 жыл бұрын
whereas nami and robin bloat is much appreciated
@hei7846
@hei7846 2 жыл бұрын
But Wano is the latest and the best version to date
@fabiodx2
@fabiodx2 2 жыл бұрын
"30t is more than enough" you did not put p-o-r-n in the equation dude
@jesfest
@jesfest 2 жыл бұрын
As with most things, convenience is the most expensive factor here. Since he wants access to all of it, all the time, it's costing him. It wouldn't matter if it's via piracy or not, he would simply choose whatever was path of least resistance. If these companies all allowed you to pay to download their content locally forever, he would probably do that, because hunting down what he wanted would be easier. He says he buys stuff on steam, after all.
@NeoAutodroid
@NeoAutodroid 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely relate to the "availability" aspect. I am really picky with movies/shows. I like a lot of indie films and old black and white films. I've explored the catalogs of several streaming services, none come close. Either I go through the hassle of having a physical library of DVD's (too much space) or I splurge on a nice NAS for my downloads. My major concern with streaming services is, like mainstream media, you're at the mercy of what the corporation decides it wants you to see or what you're allowed to see. It's ultimately susceptible to social engineering and narrative manipulation.
@pfeilspitze
@pfeilspitze 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, they decide you can't see that any more "for your own good" all the time. No, I don't want your censored version, I want the actual thing as the artist released it.
@skavossis5377
@skavossis5377 2 жыл бұрын
My Data Hoarding is not a problem! I can quit whenever I want! 😉
@ErikUden
@ErikUden 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a lie. A singular 12TB WD HDD is $200. Another thing you may need is a VPN, which is like $5/Month. I don't see why you need to pay for indexers, Radarr, Sonarr, etc. is free! A 1.5h movie file is 1-2GB in 1080p, that's thousands of movies and TV shows with a budget of $300. Less than paying Netflix and Amazon Prime for a year.
@Pasi123
@Pasi123 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Finland the cheapest 12TB HDD's are around 350€ ($369). Even external 12TB drives are around 250-300€
@MrVuckFiacom
@MrVuckFiacom 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so thankful for sites like the Snahp Forum that just give you direct Mega links. No VPN necessary, and it's all free except for my hardware. I do have a lifetime Plex Pass, but even that is completely optional. Still blows my mind I'm running a server that look and feels like Netflix that I can customize however I'd like for my users. The freedom alone is worth it for me.
@ErikUden
@ErikUden 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pasi123 wow, that's tough. I just bought an 18TB HDD from WD for less than that. Maybe order it from the official website? (there's also a trick that if you put the drive into your shopping cart, leave it there for 24 hours without logging in again or visiting the site, you'll get a code that reduces the price by 15%) Greetings from Germany, man! Finland must be beautiful this time around... or all year, probably!
@TheRailroad99
@TheRailroad99 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErikUden wow, thanks for the info! So you just go to the wd site, put your disks in the shopping cart, close the tab and open it again the next day? I have never heard of this trick... Does it work for all of their disks? With 2 or 3 18TB disks, 15% is a quite a bit of money
@ErikUden
@ErikUden 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRailroad99 Yup. This at least worked back during black Friday last year. Essentially, you must create a new user account, put the hard disk drives inside the cart, log out of the site, don't interact with any WD site during that time at all, then receive an E-Mail informing you that your cart still holds items and that you can pay less. Worked for me! I really hope it will work for you ^ ^
@lupus7297
@lupus7297 2 жыл бұрын
I was at a AirBnB once and the owner had a sideboard full of multiple 64TB NAS on which was a collection of movies across all genres and centuries. He was a software engineer who recently sold his company and it seemed as this was his main occupation now. I‘d guess he now runs a popular torrent site.
@vaibhavsoni2437
@vaibhavsoni2437 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for seeding those ISOs man, everybody should seed their downloaded ISOs. Helping the community, right? XD
@rakeau
@rakeau 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in the same boat. Space can be more easily filled enough if you get high quality, high bitrate 4k linux iso’s rather than something super duper compressed. Whatever the case, data sovereignty is nice to have, the pendulum has swung too far towards centralization imo.
@levelup1279
@levelup1279 2 жыл бұрын
Havent deleted an item since about 2019 that I torrented & I only have a 1.6 TB collection, but I don't get stuff in 4k. The only 4k content I have is Disney Frozen, I downloaded so many copies of Frozen, my favorite movie by far! But aside from that 1080p is the highest so maybe that explains the wow storage amount.
@pofi1957
@pofi1957 2 жыл бұрын
@@levelup1279 Which distro is that? Never heard of it.
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse 2 жыл бұрын
Not that I would condone downloading Linux ISO's, but why would anyone need larger than 720p ISO's as your eyeballs can only take in so much Linux. Linux looks perfect at 720p on a 40inch monitor.
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse 2 жыл бұрын
@@barongerhardt Larger than 40" !? My eyes are only so big, as is my house. If I were to go any larger I'd need to sit outside to enjoy that much Linux.
@barongerhardt
@barongerhardt 2 жыл бұрын
@@anon_y_mousse I was assuming you had the room to be at least 1 to e smoots or so away. Up close, like 1/π smoots, for a 40" I definitely would prefer higher resolutions. More in the 4-8k range. Even on my small 14" portable I prefer 1080, but depending on the task, 720 can be enough.
@nandoxus
@nandoxus 2 жыл бұрын
I've been downloading pirated things since I learned the magic of torrents when I was 12. It's legal where I'm from, internet is unlimited and Electricity is cheap af. Win win situation
@nullnill
@nullnill 2 жыл бұрын
Using this description i will try to imagine were you live ok? you either live in France or Brazil do you?
@oha_der_erste9353
@oha_der_erste9353 2 жыл бұрын
where do you live?
@xelpad2379
@xelpad2379 2 жыл бұрын
probably eastern europe 👍 love me torrents, simple as
@diegomarquez3293
@diegomarquez3293 2 жыл бұрын
@@nullnill or any Latin American country lol
@demon1337
@demon1337 2 жыл бұрын
@@diegomarquez3293 unmetered bandwidth yes, electricity cheap? not really
@arthurbonds7200
@arthurbonds7200 2 жыл бұрын
Size and total time are not always easy to calculate; it depends on quality. For example, high quality/bitrate BD rips for a single movie can easily run up to 10-15GB, while Remuxes are obviously as big as a BD (~40GB or more). Especially 4K. If you're pirating LQ stuff, sure, you can fit 1200 hours of content or more, but say you got a multiple 4K HQ stuff (~30GB for almost 2hrs of runtime) and you can see how it can quickly build up. But yeah, data hoarding is the #1 reason so much storage costs go anywhere near that high.
@gerowen
@gerowen 2 жыл бұрын
I don't pirate, I rip all my stuff myself, but the cost of DVDs and Blurays aside, hard drives and server maintenance can get REALLY expensive. Once you account for the drives in the server, the drives that make up your off-site backup, the electricity and the time you spend organizing and collecting it all, you can get into some serious money. But, nobody can take content away from me if it's on my own personal server. They can't just unilaterally yank something out from under my feet because a licensing agreement expired or something.
@gerowen
@gerowen 2 жыл бұрын
@@PefectPiePlace2 It gives me the option to select subtitles, additional languages, bonus features, etc. I can rip it exactly how I want instead of trying to find a decent version online somewhere. Plus, I figure if I'm buying them and only ripping them for my own personal use, nobody is gonna care too much, and I don't have to worry about my ISP sending me threatening letters because I was torrenting something.
@tuvarkz9324
@tuvarkz9324 2 жыл бұрын
It kinda depends on how much you want to keep archived for the long term. If you watch and delete most stuff, should be cheaper.
@apuapustaja1
@apuapustaja1 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I usually set the percentage to 1000 and then delete the torrent and data after being done with the anime/movie/tv series. For games, I usually store them on an external drive (and it does cost me a lot but still considerably less than buying in my country)
@chbrules
@chbrules 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 12 3.5" sled bay chassis for like $125 on sale from NewEgg, bought 10x 3TB and 2x6TB enterprise SAS used drives, a used 16 channel RAID SAS controller, and tossed in a couple cheap Samsung EVO SSDs. I bought a 3000G AMD APU, 2x8GB RAM, and a meh mobo. I may have spent like $900-1000 total. It is my custom NAS and utility server. I imagine this will last me 5+ years. It's not that bad a deal. Tag on the $90 for 3 years of PIA I got for ** YAR ** and I come out WAAAYYY on top of what I would have spent on F'ing streaming subscription crap services.
@pfeilspitze
@pfeilspitze 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, streaming might have been reasonable when it was "just get Netflix and you're fine", but now all the streaming services are way more than $55/month. I'll give that $10/month to Proton instead.
@ProtoPropski
@ProtoPropski 2 жыл бұрын
I can agree storage, and your ISP can both be a factor in cost especially if your ISP doesn't support an unlimited Data plan, and you live in a rural area that has no other options, you can realistically be expected to pay a premium everytime you go over that data cap, which can get expensive af, on top of storage costing $100 for 4tb's ATM which is just not enough and if you want to create a PLEX streaming service throughout your home that will still cost data for streaming, even if you don't watch it out of your local network which I'm sure you'd eventually want to do given everyone has a busy life now. It can cost a pretty peny.
2 жыл бұрын
I personally have 36 TB for my Linux ISOs, but I can tell you that you can definitely get away with less than that. But yes, it's probably going to be more expensive, unless you also use the server for other things. I use mine for game servers, many use it as cloud storage as well and for VMs to play around with stuff. As long as you're using the hardware for more than just seeding Linux ISOs, I don't think it's that bad in terms of cost. I also like to seed almost-dead torrents indefinitely to make sure they stay available. I have many torrents with ratios well over 100.
@nyankers
@nyankers 2 жыл бұрын
I don't pirate, I just buy or stream everything. Curiously, I don't have the resources to distinguish legitimate providers from illegitimate ones.
@patheadroom7072
@patheadroom7072 2 жыл бұрын
MentalOutlaw’s videos talking about downloading Linux ISOs are my favorite videos
@chillypepperjr
@chillypepperjr 2 жыл бұрын
Yoooo you just got a shout out from THE Muda
@JettMoress
@JettMoress 2 жыл бұрын
I watched "all One Piece episodes" about 10 years ago, the first 70 or so were torture, the rest went by like a breeze. Although I remember taking brakes with something more serious like Ergo Proxy. Good times, 10/10 would do again.
@etheretherether
@etheretherether 2 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting to me that the same companies that encourage us to be “green” encourage or have subscription services. Obviously downloading something I’m gonna watch over and over once and keeping it forever is way more energy efficient than downloading it every single time I watch it. I wonder what the net energy cost of that is
@davidshepherd265
@davidshepherd265 2 жыл бұрын
Companies love being "green" when its profitable to do so
@rakeau
@rakeau 2 жыл бұрын
The idea is probably what is the embodied energy within your storage media. All the metals and silicon and etc had to be mined and processed and manufactured etc etc. As opposed to just streaming it from a server somewhere.
@samwhaleIV
@samwhaleIV 2 жыл бұрын
@@rakeau Yep, the energy of streaming a video by itself.. isn't very much. You have to consider the operation of the hardware and acquisition of data centers and raw materials. More streaming means more data centers. More data centers means more water, more energy, more space; more resources. The act of pressing the download button, on its own, is going to stream merely microvolts of electricity. It's the long-term consequences of operating infrastructure that are significant.
@encycl07pedia-
@encycl07pedia- 2 жыл бұрын
You realize lots of streaming apps, especially on mobile, enable you to download content, right? Of course not: if you could think, you wouldn't have made that post.
@rakeau
@rakeau 2 жыл бұрын
@@samwhaleIV Not sure if I follow? What's more efficient: a server with a bunch of storage "shaerd" by thousands of users every day? Or all of those thousands of people all having their own physical storage with duplicates of the same data that they might watch every so often, but just sits on the shelf the rest of the time? Kind of like saying why public transport is better than everyone driving private cars. From a "green" perspective, sure, streaming is always going to be better. Having a few data centres is going to be better than everyone having their own Plex servers. But yeah. Things being highly centralized has its own downsides too.
@biggerandbetterthings7222
@biggerandbetterthings7222 2 жыл бұрын
I remember going to a ISP and talking to the owner and stuff.. One of the tech guys was like so proud how the ISP d/l'd 6GB a day of usenet stuff.. Damn they sold the company for 10's of millions.. yay? dey rich AF now!
@Balmattoy
@Balmattoy 2 жыл бұрын
I pay for a seedbox, filled with obscure lesser known movies and oldie movies like silent films. Most files are only available through private trackers, but I do seed on a public one too, and the sheer volume of leeching going on there is rampant, some files from that tracker has a total of 10TB upload, ratios in the thousands, and still, there is only 3-5 seeders on these files..
@The-Cat
@The-Cat 6 ай бұрын
Some countries like Belgium have ISP set limits on how much people are allowed to download and upload. Upload in some cases either count as double or set much lower than the max allowed volume. So don't blame people blindly for leeching. Some of us don't have the freedom to seed as much as we download.
@yasserblidi9729
@yasserblidi9729 2 жыл бұрын
The sarcasm. The sarcasm was beautiful.
@taigo5766
@taigo5766 2 жыл бұрын
I like how he tries his best to not get stiked by KZfaq
@mugiwara8166
@mugiwara8166 2 жыл бұрын
My friend has a slave pc with 68 terabytes of everything from 4k movies to the old godzilla movies and 300 plus anime and anime movies and every show that is coming out. Plex comes in clutch when your friend is rich
@almaefogo
@almaefogo 2 жыл бұрын
No need to be rich aside from the drive costs and at that point it's data hoarding. My server cost 80€ from a friend with a i7 4770 plus 32gb ram and the cost of 1 2tb drive I bought, 1 1tb came with the server and I had an extra 750gb plus 1 2tb for 24/7 CCTV recording of the last 10 days from 3 cameras and motion detection events, the max cost for the server plus the drives is around 300€. Plus ~38 for a 1 year eweka Usenet subscription, ~20 for 1 year indexer subscription, there's not way I would be able to pay just for Netflix for 1 year with that and I have some really old films that are kinda hard to get like the gumball ones that I'm waiting for 4 months now and it's only half done. I have amazon video because of the prime but rarely use it, I prefer to download it.
@mugiwara8166
@mugiwara8166 2 жыл бұрын
@@almaefogo lmao im not reading all this but good for you
@almaefogo
@almaefogo 2 жыл бұрын
@@mugiwara8166 now that you say that it's kinda big, note to self: don't reply to comments when it's 3am and I'm turning into a sleep deprived zombie.
@mugiwara8166
@mugiwara8166 2 жыл бұрын
@@almaefogo lmfao have a good night my man
@AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen
@AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen 2 жыл бұрын
👏🙂 I love all people like you who seed Linux isos
@maxfieldstanton5411
@maxfieldstanton5411 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think this calculation holds any weight. Streaming is temporary and conditional. Movies and series are pulled from streaming services all the time. When you store something on a drive, you keep it. Its more like buying a copy than watching a stream. To buy 30TB worth of content would undoubtedly cost a lot more than $1200.
@diwajerebation4077
@diwajerebation4077 2 жыл бұрын
if youre putting that into the equation, man-hours lurking for ISOs + technical training so you dont download a russian .exe should also be added
@ClusterShart
@ClusterShart 2 жыл бұрын
Theoretically I can be considered in his camp with 20TB and a $800 computer, but my storage has expanded over the course of years, and is just using hardware from an old main pc that is otherwise just sitting there. And really, they sound like someone who listened to Reddit instead of buying as needs expand.
@overlisted
@overlisted 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, you seem to be really dedicated to seeding Linux ISOs!
@Danimally
@Danimally 2 жыл бұрын
Im a content hoarder by nature. I'm the kind of friend that you ask for that weird comercial from the 90's or that cartoon forgatten in time. Also, because of my work editing videos, i really need a lot of space for footage. And a few minutes of 4k raw content can really fill many HDD or SSD. And i also need to backup everything (because yes, hdd dies without warning) and archive. What i mean is that it isn't that weird to need that much storage.
@jamalcolorado
@jamalcolorado 2 жыл бұрын
Respect to the Man!
@floricide9669
@floricide9669 2 жыл бұрын
3:03 WELL ACKCHYUALLY... torrenting gnu/linux iso's violates the GPL v2. Each seeder is NOT sufficiently disclosing the source code to who they're distributing it to. This was fixed in version 3 of the GPL, giving an exemption to the seeders (but whoever starts the torrent must still share the source code), but of course, the kernel never upgraded to version 3.
@xilstus1776
@xilstus1776 2 жыл бұрын
2:40 If you're putting any amount of drives in a raid 1, it always has the same space as 1 disk (ie 16TB I think you mean raid 0, which would have 64TB of storage with 4x 16TB drives
@diwajerebation4077
@diwajerebation4077 2 жыл бұрын
why would it be raid 0 nevermind, you never know with these guys
@xilstus1776
@xilstus1776 2 жыл бұрын
​@@diwajerebation4077 Raid 0 combines the storage space of all drives, with no data redundancy/protection. Raid 1 stores a copy of the data on all drives, thus only has the capacity of the smallest drive but can survive a failure of all drives but 1
@xilstus1776
@xilstus1776 2 жыл бұрын
​@@barongerhardt No, I think you are somewhat wrong. Depending on the implementation, RAID 0 will stripe the data, so that the first (eg) 1Mb of data goes on drive 1, second on drive 2, third on drive three, etc. This gives the potential size of your smallest drive * number of drives, potential throughput of your slowest drive * the amount of drives in the raid, however if one drive fails, you essentially lose all data. If the drives vary in size, the block size could be varied so that in a RAID0 of a 1Tb disk and a 2Tb disk so that the block size on the 2Tb disk is double the 1Tb disk. Or you could use the extra space in the 2Tb disk for another volume or RAID. Another implementation is to simply "concatenate" the storage of the drives, so for example with 3 1Tb drives the first 1Tb goes on drive 1, 1-2Tb goes on drive 2, etc. This means you get the potential throughput of whatever drive you're writing to, and if one drive fails you may be able to restore data on the other drives. RAID1 stores a copy on each drive, aka a mirror as you said. The potential write throughput is the speed of the slowest drive, but the potential read throughput is the read speed of all drives combined. The RAID will have the space of the smallest drive, and extra space on larger drives could potentially be used in other volumes. There is no parity data created or stored, rather a complete copy of all data is on each disk. Thus, you could lose all data on all drives but one and be fine. What you describe as RAID 1 is actually RAID 10 aka RAID 1+0. You take an even amount of disks and split them into pairs. Each pair is RAIDed into RAID 1, then all the RAID1's are RAIDed into RAID 0. Potential write throughput is your slowest disk * amount of disks/2, whereas potential read throughput is your slowest disk * amount of disks. This RAID can survive 1 disk from each RAID1 failing, but if 2 disks from the same RAID1 fail you are outta luck. RAID 5/6 stores parity data on 1/2 drives, and can survive 1/2 failures. All of this of course depends on your specific implementation.
@CoolDudeClem
@CoolDudeClem 2 жыл бұрын
Also, what about if there's some software you need for say some project, but you're only going to use that software for only a day or two? Is that worth paying for?
@just-mees
@just-mees 2 жыл бұрын
You're such a good plant Kenny 🥰 You'd NEVER *steal* from daddy amazon and netflix 🥰🥰🥰
@sneff212
@sneff212 2 жыл бұрын
I dont get why not just have a hard drive dock and just have hard drives on a shelf and just swap them in when you want to access something else
@LiveType
@LiveType 2 жыл бұрын
That gets dicey from personal experience as you expand. If you have like ~10 drives, it's fine. With you being able to get 14tb drives for $200, that should last a LONG time. However, it starts to become a serious hassle if you go much bigger than that. Also the risk of data loss becomes non-ignorable, further increasing costs and operational complexity. Overall, it's a data hoarding problem. That gets expensive fast unless you put some limits on it.
@REALfreaky
@REALfreaky 2 жыл бұрын
The bulk of the cost is from the hard-drives themselves. Getting a free Dell from craigslist and turning it into a NAS is just an obvious upgrade for convenience.
@sneff212
@sneff212 2 жыл бұрын
@@LiveType well if you think about it its like records or books, you can simply put a label on the side to say whats on it
@sneff212
@sneff212 2 жыл бұрын
@@REALfreaky a good way I get drives for cheap is from recycle centers. You can get 1/2 tb drives for only a buck each
@llortaton2834
@llortaton2834 2 жыл бұрын
Piracy is about 5 times less expensive when you are considering data storage / average amount of time a person has available to watch a show.
@SG-tx1fz
@SG-tx1fz 2 жыл бұрын
Piracy only really cost the cost of a VPN mine was 6$ but even that is avoidable since if your contrie don't really care about copyright then you could just pirate from mega and other file sharing sites there are also ways to pirate with out having to download the content like mangadex and stuff like that.(not paying VPN anymore since I'm in country that don't give a dam about copyright)
@llortaton2834
@llortaton2834 2 жыл бұрын
In the scenario that i have presented, which is long term media holdings / archival, the cost is the one presented, if someone watches series for 150-170 hours a serie, the user would be better off downloading the content for offline use, streaming is also more costly if you consider how long you have to subscribe to both your internet service/ VPN
@sbrazenor2
@sbrazenor2 6 ай бұрын
I wanted to build a storage server for cheap, so I got a couple of 18TB drives for a few hundred bucks from a hardware surplus company. (Super low hours on the hardware.) And I got an old HP desktop with a 6th gen i5 and 16GB of RAM for like $65 on eBay. All in, I had a decent storage solution for under $400. I will use that solution for years. Compared to what I would spend in streaming services to get the access to the same content, I would spend multiples of that. It's still cheaper, but you have to know where to get your gear at a reasonable price.
@hummel6364
@hummel6364 6 ай бұрын
I have 2.5TB of archives from a single vtuber because she graduated a while back. Getting yt-dlp to do that without getting throttled was a pain, and even then it took me almost the full month advance notice that I had. I have everything and my downloads ended 3 days before the graduation (the stream of which I also downloaded), and by midnight that day everything was removed from her channel. What should I do with that data? I can't just spend another hundred bucks on a 5TB HDD, and I would need two for redundancy.
@evgrafov3277
@evgrafov3277 2 жыл бұрын
even if this was true for everyone, i still wouldn't pay for microsoft office, adobe, or anything except games i really like
@TheSteveTheDragon
@TheSteveTheDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Most linux isos i try to download are in between 600 megs and 2 gigs. I dont really need dolby and 8k resolution. That itself saves a bit of space for data hoarding. If you have the computing power, convert stuff to h265
@SibaNL
@SibaNL 2 жыл бұрын
How would I go about converting that properly? I assume it will somewhat lossy.
@TheSteveTheDragon
@TheSteveTheDragon 2 жыл бұрын
@@SibaNL Use handbrake, preferably a hardware accelerated version of the h265 module. You'de be surprised at how good it is as you move the quality slider down, handbrake offers a preview function that will convert a few seconds so you can decide if the quality is acceptable without committing to it.
@gzoechi
@gzoechi 6 ай бұрын
The problem with buying content is, that is has often severe drawbacks as well. Often you don't even own the stuff you bought, then it comes with copy protection that makes it cumbersome to consume. There are country restrictions and with BluRays it's often hard to even buy them or only with dramatically overprised shipping cost
@eideticex
@eideticex 2 жыл бұрын
Used to be like that myself. Would go through great lengths to get the smallest possible file size without sacrificing perceived quality to the point I wrote my own transcoder for x264 which would scrape various movie sites to produce proper chapter lists and all that fanciness. At some point I realized bit rot was ruining videos more often than I was able to watch them and that's what got me to back off. Still have a huge problem hoarding code I wrote that just isn't all that useful because "you never known" failure of logic but getting there on solving that one by combining it into a library and discarding anything that fails reasonable testing or can't be adopted into a somewhat loose guideline (for consistency sake).
@levelup1279
@levelup1279 2 жыл бұрын
Isnt there some form of active error correction you could do if your seeding 24/7 to protect against bit rot, at least until the hard drive fails?
@farisshaarawi7506
@farisshaarawi7506 2 жыл бұрын
I personally Think that paying more for piracy would be worth it because you actually own the content. No matter how much it costs I would still rather not use services. I personally pirate music and tv most and I love it compared to spotify or netflix.
@ISCARI0T
@ISCARI0T 2 жыл бұрын
That’s illegal :3
@bogartwilley
@bogartwilley 6 ай бұрын
This man is rockin 30TB of content.. That's like 6TB more than my Ultra Street Fighter IV collecion of footage... This is a worthy foe indeed! Godspeed to this man, Fedora's off! LOL
@The-Cat
@The-Cat 6 ай бұрын
Don't think too much about size.. he could be having blue ray top quality content uncompressed... It adds up quick.
@bogartwilley
@bogartwilley 6 ай бұрын
@@The-Cat codec matters allot to
@The-Cat
@The-Cat 6 ай бұрын
@@bogartwilley yes it does 💯😁
@peterschmidt9942
@peterschmidt9942 6 ай бұрын
The other issue if you're living out in the sticks (like I do) is internet plans. While I do get reasonable speeds with satellite, the amount of bandwidth each month is prohibitive to streaming. They finally updated plans a little while back where it's unlimited most of the day except between 4pm and 12am (when you're most likely to watch video streams). But I do see their point that the actual equipment isn't cheap. I recently updated to a new NAS (QNAP) which was around the $1000AU mark. Add in 4x8TB drives @$300ea plus 4GB RAM (about $50) I'm up to $2250 just for equipment. Electricity would probably be about $150 a year so just in that, would pay for a monthly subscription. And lets face it for $2250 that would pay for about 12yrs of streaming at $15 a month. Add in also how many times you'd actually re-watch any show/movie? You could probably count on two hands how many shows you'd watch a second time. Although the one upside to streaming your own content is you're not at the whim of streaming services discontinuing shows/movies because their distribution deals don't suit them.
@zackwilloughby9185
@zackwilloughby9185 2 жыл бұрын
Depends how you feel about ownership. Personally I don't know what's worse, policy not living up to what it should take ownership of, creators' rights to ownership, or an end user's capacity to store data? If that ain't a kerfuffle. The only thing more kerfuffling is spell check knowing to change kurfuffle to kerfuffle.
@petrus4
@petrus4 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has been pirating various forms of media for most of the time I've been alive, I recently had the revelation that while I still want permanent local copies of the stuff that is important to me, (pre-Kurtzman Star Trek, Stargate, the Borderlands franchise, Minecraft, Factorio, some medieval music and psytrance from the turn of the century, and a small library of films) I will never have enough local space for everything, and that's completely fine. So while I do pirate a few current streaming shows, (Picard, the Mandalorian, Boba Fett) the Mandalorian is the only one of the three which I am likely to keep long term. I'm also now subbed to CuriosityStream, but there's basically nothing there that I regret being unable to keep locally, either. Netflix specifically, however, are cordially invited to suck the entire universe's weight in dicks. I don't watch their shit, and I don't pirate it; although I did pirate The Good Place. My brother also showed me an episode of The Boys, which I consider appropriate given how strongly he often reminds me of Homelander.
@myria2834
@myria2834 6 ай бұрын
Just trying to log into amazon on linux to watch a few episodes of a random show reminded me of why piracy is a good thing. Paying an absurd annual fee, yet I had to waste most of my free time jumping through hoops just to stream a couple episodes to my PC.
@girlscoutfather6766
@girlscoutfather6766 6 ай бұрын
Step 1) VPN. Already pay for it. Step 2) Change DNS configuration if you’re feeling really spicy Step 3) Torrent Step 4) Walk away because the entire purpose of pirating is to save money.
@tfwmemedumpster
@tfwmemedumpster 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing you can't buy, or pirate, is a brain. If you have 40tb of content you don't need to have all the drives spun up 24/7 wasting power. Just index it and only spin up the drive when you access the content on it. You'll have 10 seconds of latency when you click on the video but it'll save you the outrageous energy costs.
@user-tq7bq3qf3k
@user-tq7bq3qf3k 2 жыл бұрын
"Do you really need more?" "do you even need that much to begin with?" Yes, we need more, go ahead and try to find a peer on a 10+ year old torrent and you'll get your answer. Edit: Well, movies are the mainstream when it comes to torrents, most have seeds due to popularity and there's always a different rip, but software? Books? Good luck...
@joshallen128
@joshallen128 2 жыл бұрын
For me audio books and software I can listen to. But really I don't need allot of storage I think I do but it's useless to me maybe 100gb and that's it
@einerrules4135
@einerrules4135 2 жыл бұрын
It cots more those laws tha prohibits to share or to reproduce bits in my own screen. As a content creator I can put all kind of difficulties to prevent others to get access to the content I own but the moment you find the way to access it I can do anything. Subscriptions has we know it today is more expensive because it need a large amount of resources to protect the content but since companies are not who pay the cost. Those who pay taxes are the ones who pay the cost of protection through "copyright laws" that goverments enforce.
@DukenukemX
@DukenukemX 2 жыл бұрын
I can't image the nightmare of dealing with 30TB when it comes to drive failure. Sure you could set it up in a raid but that costs money and kinda sucks to lose drive space for recovery. What I do is firstly encode videos with a lower bitrate to save space. A single episode of any TV show doesn't need to be 1 Gig. Use Handbrake or WinFF to make it into a much smaller file. You won't need that level of quality and good chance you're planning to Plex which smaller files do help with that. Another thing to do is not buy Seagate or Western Digital brands of hard disks. They suck, especially Seagate. Personally I stick with Hitachi, HGST, and Toshiba. They may not perform the best but I don't need fast drives, I need reliable drives. Another thing I do is keep an eye on the smart status of the drives. When something bad starts to happen like a bad sector then I replace it. This has saved me countless times of losing all my data. You can still use the drive for many years but what I've found is that when one sector goes then others will soon follow. Use something like CrystalDiskInfo to see the status of your drives. Also drives tend not to live for more than 5 years on average so I'd just replace them when the 5 year mark is up. All drives fail remember. It's not a matter of if but when.
@diwajerebation4077
@diwajerebation4077 2 жыл бұрын
can confirm hitachi>___>>>>>>seagate, but in my opinion drives can very well live 20+ years even when on 24/7 IF idle 99% of the time, mine's 10 years still strong very rarely get faults
@DukenukemX
@DukenukemX 2 жыл бұрын
@@diwajerebation4077 I've had drives live for years but it's hard to tell which drive will last nearly forever and when they'll die.
@undefinednull5749
@undefinednull5749 2 жыл бұрын
1) It's worth watching a blu Ray movie at full quality especially if it's got something like Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos. I was amazed at the difference. Although That's about 70GB per movie, Watching at for example Netflix is such a downgrade even if it's 4k. 30 TB would be enough for about 530 such high quality movies. 2) Torrenting amongst its many benefits as a technology **provides much faster download speeds, the more people seed, the more connections you have**, imagine if no one would ever need to stop seeding lol, we could download Linux ISOs, lol, instantly at our max theoretical bandwidth !
@SibaNL
@SibaNL 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Netflix account but torrented the linux ISO anyways since netflix likes to throttle my bandwidth to the point everything becomes blocky.
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