You are sooo right! For a vast number of people it has become a contest of performance, range, price, etc. The actual objective of harm-reduction has been trampled in the rush!

Best comment by far!

Hear hear! 👏

Breaking news of "competitor" EV successes are announced in Tesla factories to cheers. Everyone is signed up to the mission - to accelerate the world to sustainable transport. Every other EV sold is a step towards that goal. Well done, Geely. The Polestar is a lovely premium brand. However, they still need to continue the endless slog towards profitability. They lose huge amounts on every car made. Polestar is still bleeding half a billion dollars per year. The more they sell the more they lose, currently.

Like your thinking.

Neither vehicle is on my radar, but you made me curious... Carwow has the most expensive Tesla Model Y at UKL59,990 which is exactly the same as the cheapest Polestar 4 price shown in this video, so there is a price parity of sorts. It really comes down to what a buyers preferences are in a vehicle... this is not a new situation. Some people need a top of the line seven-seater SUV... others will kill for a bottom of the line Porsche. Ye pays yer money and ye makes yer choice!

yes, It should be better, but I don't see in which aspect?

@@Regenme-io1sk it's actually a 48.8_% increase.

@@Regenme-io1sk yeah, this blows the Y away.

@@Tommyownzz lesseee, Real drivers display HUD Better interior better exterior design Better ride quality with magnetic adaptive suspension Option for electrochromic roof CarPlay/Android Auto support Better more intuitive infotainment layout with large accessible virtual buttons. Quicker (AWD version) Quieter

Yes, even better if Efficency is in Wh/km (5.37 km/kWh equals 186Wh/km) 9:06

It’s ok as long as polestar can sell their much smaller supply. The dont produce millions of cars

Then check the 4 price in China😂

66k nz = 40k US = £31.7k 120k NZ = 72.6k US = £57.6k

Polestar every day of the week

@@anemeth9281 around 40,000 GBP, AWD version with all packages installed😂

It won't sell well. The software on the Polestar is crude.. play with the software in a Tesla and then come back to the Polestar... You won't buy the car.

@@TheMadmax0609tbh I don’t like saturated and cheaply made cars. Polestar is something else

​@@TheMadmax0609Rubbish

@@doritos7134 Your argument would mean something if Tesla didn't have a better crash safety rating. Buy it if you like it but the Polestar won't sell well. Their software is unpolished.

@@TheMadmax0609 the Tesla is all about the software, for many people it's too much. No driver's display means many won't even look at it. It's also not the best looking car. I wouldn't buy either brand new but a choice between this and Modely Y when a couple of years old I'd take this anyday.

All they need do is chop 50% off the price and they are Tesla competitors.

Fair enough. Who would be caught dead in a Tesla at this point

@@jarrodf_many many people actually.

​@@jarrodf_ I'm quite sure nobody actually cares about which car I drive. How insecure would you need to be to allow your choice of car to be determined by such irrational fears?

@@sjwright2 Oh absolutely

But surely you don't mean that in the literal sense?

thanks for pointing that out. I am in the market for a new sporty SUV, but had an E tron 55 Black edition and those width restrictions were nightmare in Essex! I will test drive and see

More power to you

Brain isn’t working for you?

Yes

Thats the law of diminishing returns for ya... And why I run a citroen ami for commuting

It's actually a 33% increase in battery. 75 kWh Vs 100kwh, 25/75=0.33 *100 =33%

Yes. And we'll pretend this is not a Chinese car as well

We are not, the model y is a cheaply made and built vehicle, and not in the same league as this.

@@kezoomeragree - let’s also start comparing Toyota corollas to BMW 3 series. Stupid comparison to compare a luxury performance car to a cheaply made Tesla

Not just ignored. Flipped opposite when concluding it’s a good value car compared to a car the Y that’s 50% cheaper

@@kezoomerexactly his point. The two cars are in different price and value categories but they’re being compared as if they are in the same class.

Polestar is Swedish and they will build some vehicles in the US and some in S. Korea, as well as Europe (IIRC), besides just China.

@@cypvh74 : Polestar is Swedish because that is the impression they want to portray. If any government is considering trade sanctions against China, it is very likely that they will know that Polestar is 69% Chinese owned.

​@cypvh74 what bs. It's now a Chinese company 😊

Polestar 4 will be manufactured in South Korea in the near future. 2025 I believe.

Yes, good point. In my experience the reliability and build quality is excellent. Having to deal with Tesla service every 3 months over 4 years for warranty work is painful beyond words. The Polestar is also over the air updates. More flexibility with 3rd party apps on the Google play store. Oh and it is available in Eight Hand Drive unlike some of the competition.

For me, most reversing cameras are too poor at handling areas of light and shade... I can't see why this would be any better.

Next time she will talk slower so that you can think faster.

@@XX-166 oh wow, did you find that one on "big boy online insults for keyboard warriors"?

@@h34p you figured that out all by yourself Forrest??

As soon as possible!... and a few other "Standards" as well... total misleading bloody nonsense!

As long as everyone uses the same standard, even if horribly flawed.. it will actually be equal and easy to compare the cars. So even if it's bad, it's good we all use the same standard to measure the range

That's fine when it comes to relative comparison but number of miles is not relative, it's supposed to be an absolute metric and people do care about how far their car goes in absolute and consistently measurable terms when it comes to real-world usage

You have to test to a world wide standard, because "real world range" isn't standardised. Wltp is the same standard used to calculate mpg and km/l for ICE cars as well. When was the last time you achieved your ICE vehicle's advertised fuel efficiency?

Perhaps people should factor in the YMMV thing. "Your mileage may vary." Not everyone drives or knows how to drive in a sensible manner, obviously. In short it's the human element that mucks up everything.

Tesla navigation software. Nobody can beat it

This is a way better car.​@@kelsey_roy

The adapters are not that expensive ($200-250) range for nacs to CCS, and some superchargers have the adapters built in. That said the cable length can be a bit awkward at the moment as they’re still only set up for Teslas

​@@mikenielsen3971are you guys educated??? Mass market Suzuki hatchbacks handle better than some Teslas and you guys want to believe that Tesla is something Luxury???

@@kelsey_royexcept Apple, Google, Waze, just about anyone. Tesla routing is horrible.

It’s not for everyone

It’s not for Tesla wannabes

It's a luxury segment car, not the cheapest they could build. They've siad over and over they are not competing with Tesla (Except S & X). What's an Ordinary Person anyway

Neither will a Ferrari but there are those that can afford them.

“Ordinary” people buy used cars. Not new.

There will be a key like any other car

Couldn't get in with a flat key-fob even without the flush handles - didn't look like there was anywhere to insert a physical key to manually unlock the door, nor a physical key to start the vehicle...

@@logicalChimp there is just like on a Tesla

@@CC-iq2pe lesser than what?

Hyundai, Kia and Renault have some lovely small EVs!

It wouldn't even fit in my driveway...

It's 10mm( 0.1 cm ) wonder than a model Y. From my experience around oxford.. it'll be VERY difficult to find bays that fit. Even with much thinner cars like a BMW Z4 or Mercedes E class it's a huge pain.

I have steam coming out of my ears ever time I hear what the British have done to "their" language! The change has come about incredibly quickly... ten years ago, someone as beautifully spoken as Imogen would have been mortified to think she could slip down this slope. Now you've got me going! Whatever happened to the inoffensive letter "T"? I don't know how to spell "Britain" nowdays? Is it now "Bri'ain"? OHHH DEAR! 🥴 😜

No it isn't.

Well, they both have 4 wheels.

@@stevenjones916 The video was great

@@CoroDan exactly

This. My car has an (optional thank god) electronic rear mirror. I thought that was the coolest thing - before I tried it. But with a "regular" mirror, you switch from looking ahead focused on ~infinity to the rear, _still focused on ~infinity_ and back again without ever having to re-focus. HOWEVER when your rear-view mirror is a display, you have to re-focus from infinity to about 2 feet and then back to infinity when you look back to the road. Not only does this increase a 1/2 second glance to 3+ seconds, if you have bifocals it means you have to turn your entire head to face the mirror. Gives me a headache pretty quick.

And to get it you have to use whole battery range when driving below 20% or above 80% damages the battery.

@@EVRealFacts - that statement is simply not true. EVs can be driven perfectly well with charge levels above 80% - this is actually the recommendation if charging above 80/90%, is to drive the car. Driving below 20% is perfectly fine also; the 20% (10% for some makes) figure is quoted as a threeshold to start charging since the 0% to 20% charger rate is slower hence if you want to save a bit of time whilst charging, then the rule of thumb is to start charging at 20%. The only recommendation is not to leave a EV vehicle standing at 0% charge or with over 80/90% charge for long durations. BTW. If your statement was true then petrol/diesel based Hybrid EVs and Mild Hybrids would have non-functioning batteries in no time, as these vehciles often drive with batteries below 20% and above 80% - as they don't have damaged batteries means your claim isn't the case for them either.

Most AWD EVs use the front (smaller) motor for cruising, not the rear. The Tesla Model 3 performance does have options in track mode to adjust the bias front and rear. However, I would think most cars automatically adjust bias.

@@user-jt4fy4od9r Entirely unhelpful. This video specifically states that the P4 turns off the FRONT motor and the 2024 P2 does so too. Did you even watch the video? If I cared what a Model 3 does, or what "most EVs" do I wouldn't have specifically asked about the Polestar 4, on a video about the Polestar 4.

@@shia_labeouf So why did you ask a question you already knew the answer to? What a narrow mind set you have.

@@user-jt4fy4od9r The question was can you MANUALLY decouple it. You need to get some reading lessons my dude.

@@shia_labeouf Pretty ridiculous question - it depends on the type of motor and the drive train for starters. just go look at the internet if all you want to do is pick an argument. I have better things to do.

Scrap "Lane Keep Assist". Let drivers remember they are there to drive... that doesn't suit?... TAKE A BUS!

It's 10mm wider than a Tesla model Y. It is very wide don't get me wrong, especially for certain areas of the UK but still very drive able

@@Twin.motors 10mm is 1cm, not 0.1cm

Time to upgrade to one of the safest cars on the road then; second user Tesla Model 3's are now affordable.

Most EVs are just large volumes of air surrounded by crumple zones - you will be absolutely fine. It is the big Range Rovers and Semi Agricultural trucks you want to worry about.

You're right, it's physics. EV massively heavy and not only mash you, but you'd be in a crushed car with a damaged battery pack likely to go on fire like a blowtorch real close.

​@@user-jt4fy4od9rnope, it's a massively heavy EV with a damaged battery pack I'd be worrying about...thermal runaway possible with crashed EVs

​@@EVRealFacts - Battery EVs have a lower risk of fire in a crash than Petrol/Diesel, hence your worries are placed in the wrong direction. You're also confusing phone/escooter/ebike batteries with EV batteries, they are very different things; EV batteries are designed with internal barriers that reduce the risk of fire inside the cell, plus are segment into packs and encased in modules that have thermal management systems built-in; with the risk of an EV fires is 60 times less likely than a fossil fuel fire. EVs are subject to crash tests like any other vehicle, if a fire had broken out the car would not have been certified. Weight wise EVs are somewhat similar to their like for like Petrol/Diesel counterparts (sometimes heavier, othertimes lighter for cars of the same power and spec), the weight difference occurs when comparing averages - as the average Petrol/Diesel car is a much smaller vehicle than the average EV currently (due to initial crop of EVs being larger more expensive cars to attract early adopters). This is changing now with the introduction of smaller / lower cost BEV cars, the comparison should become more like for like. EV weight is also more evenly distributed over the area of the car, whereas ICE cars concentrates the weight into the front of the car (where the engine is located), creating more of a foccused point force when hitting other vehicles and pedestrians. A heavier car hiting a smaller car, regardless of it's fuel type, will do more damage due to inertia and kinetic energy differences involved; this is why heavier cars tend to have more safety features built in (such as brake assistance, automated emergency braking and active crumple zones to prevent, reduce or asorb the energy of the impact). Hence the OP correctly summised the situation of a small vs large car, and the reply response correctly reassured that safety features are built in (particularly in the case of EVs) to reduce the degree of impact damage. So I'm not sure what you're adding to the discussion by spreading EV non-facts (myths) and ill-informed opinions.

😃 driving isn't what it used to be .. before too long .. 'I'm going for a drive' will mean getting the back seat and telling the car where you want to go ... everyone wants a piece of this Chinese market where 'driving' isn't driving .. first you lose the rear window .. then you lose the front one for a cinema screen / games console 🙄

It is not good for the environment to own pets. We all have to make sacrifices as the world burns.

We have Polestar 2, which I believe has smaller trunk that P4. And 2 German Shepherds. They both very happily travel in P2. Actually for me no rear windows would be a small plus as there probably would be less barking :). Depends of course a lot what kind of dog you have but I am sure German Shepherds would have no issue to travel in P4 (of course you need to open that small flap to passanger compartment so they would not be in total darkness). But not saying big station wagon would not be better...

The shorts by the way fit into that as well...but the black top is a no-go. Who forced that upon that woman?

@@connclissmann6514 vans, lorries, buses. No rear view mirror doesn't affect me one bit.

The first person to cut a hole in that trunk lid and install a RV window gets the prize LOL.

Excellent points! This is not a van 😅

Polestar covered this in their own video. I don't remember the specifics but the way they've designed it, it stays clear both in rain and snow.

Totally agree. Any camera can’t give you depth or indeterminate focus. While the overall look is pleasing, I find it hard to understand why they took out the rear window. The flow line isn’t so different to an I-pace.I feel this is shock and awe tactic, not a design description.

My Kia Niro EV has a light in the charge port... it seems to have a sensor that makes it turn off just as I approach with the charge plug! 😡 🤬

Probably China has better subsidies for buyers and less tax on EV cars at the moment.

@@alastairhatt360 I can't confirm. But from what I heard, there's no more subsidies for buyer (end user). But maybe there are some incentives for OEM. However, in another KZfaq Channel, somebody test ride the new BMW i3 sedan for China market. This car use to be sold for usd 46k last year, but now sell for USD 26k. could be something there...

@@adicahya that's a government thing.

You must be younger than me... it costs quite a lot more than my first house! 😋 😜

I cannot see any valid reason for ditching the rear window... the reason given seemed pretty lame, especially with the glass technology available today.

Model Y Long range (331 Mile range) in the UK £53 and Polestar 4 (385 Mile range) in the UK £60. So not what I would call a big difference, especially as it is somewhat more car and more range. For about 13% extra cost you get a much better engineered car (based on my ownership experience of both Tesla and Polestar).

@@milesforrest6920 When you look at the size of the battery, the Tesla is far superior and on a real world range that is 85-90% of the claimed. Its blooming hard to beat

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@@eddjordan2399 why the question mark

Agreed mate, they are obscene and according to the JD power USA survey 2024, shocking unreliable too

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