Jon Jennings can't argue with that

Jon Jennings then they would argue to use electric vehicles formula cars lol

Everyone would have fun, and everyone would save fuel. Plus F4 cars are super safe.

i'm an environmentalist and i fully agree with this assertion. i just need a little room in the back for my junk

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Jack Thorpe Well for you we have a new video, just because you want something different, are you ready? The Porsche 918 Spyder VS. The Mall Walker. Think about the weight difference, this one could be close!

@Radeon__ BTW Amazing isn't it? What do people like that do with the REST of their lives?

i think lap time wudv been more shorter had the porsche drive wudv cut sown the wide turns like the formula1 driver did

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Straight facts

@@mileswoods2527 the formula car can maintain and sutain that pace for the whole grandprix while the 911 turbo will start to heat sock after 5 or so laps

For me Porsche obvious won. You can came by Porsche on track, have fun and go back to home. On evening you can go for date with girl. In f4 car you can't. You don't have slicks on 911. Weight difference is X3, comfort difference is x30. You can try longer distance on this cars (tires, fuel) and Porsche could won. It's all about regulations and FUN.

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If you only drive on race track, the F4 is a superior choice. Why is everyone commenting years?

Safety is important too, Porsche has to cater for both good drivers and people who think they're good drivers 😂

911 has comfort, single-seaters has none, its a boneshaking ride from hell! comfort = adding weight, but modern sportscars has gone to far from lightness and simplisity

@@torevenheim9607 boneshaking ride from hell is what sports cars should be about.

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Bro it's a road car, luxury car. Not for me or you (i think) because of budget. You can compare Porsche 911 rebuild for racing and than compare this cars even with f3 or F2. (Equal cost of build + add cost per use for season). 911 here even don't have slicks...

+sniktun1 the formula car cut every corner that you could cut without going on the grass so doesnt realy matter xD

+sniktun1 2 wheels on the track. Perfectly legit

+sniktun1 I think they're counting the red/white parts as track.

+Ettick is not a fan of motorsport definitely... that's called kerb, dude...

Randy Lasmana Thanks for telling me, you clearly have superior knowledge on the subject.

Actually, I would like to see maybe a Bugatti SS v. a Funnycar. That would be kind of interesting.

You're an idiot, dude. not you inklebonker.

Ciber why exactly? They compared an expensive, luxurious 4-seater sportscar to a race car .... ON THE TRACK!

Ganooster Moppy my grandma has a dragster and has just accepted the challenge. I'll be providing the dragstrip

Inklebonker Wone A funny car would make the Bugatti look like a slug

I agree!

Yes... a F4 car can be beaten by a hypercar on semi-slicks (like the 918 or the 720s), maybe also by the GT2 RS. Meaning on an average track with some longer straights

@@iseeq72 but not an F3 car. Nothing you can drive on the street will touch it.

@@iseeq72 There is no way, we are faster than the 500hps gt3 arround some tracks (who have slicks, light weight and some aero). It's the fact the cars run lower to the ground and are 3times lighter that makes them that fast

+Zellox | CSGO Clips Transrapid? ;)

Le Mans is a boring circuit with miles and miles of straight road, no wonder. the Ring is anyway the real benchmark for any car's capabilities.

I wouldn't call Le Mans boring. In the 80s before they added the two chicanes cars did 260 down the mulsanne straight. Even if it is long that's not exactly boring.

TheOne42 You have obviously never watched a Le Man's 24Hr race then.

hvf26 No because its that boring ;)

Yeah no it's difficult to watch a race that's nonstop for 24 hours.

+Jackie Scholl Fairer excuse him

It's a comparison of road vs race car. It's not about proving who's best just an interesting comparison to watch,

+Jackie Scholl I bet the Porsche would win on a fast circuit like Monza or Spa Francorchamps. It is the same as with the discussion about the Ferrari LaFerrari vs. Porsche 918 vs. McLaren P1: there is not one fastest car, there is only a fastest car on a certain track.

why isnt it a formula 4 car to be fair.....

Monza maaaaybe. Just maybe the porsche would be faster Spa there is no chance. Spa is fast but it's all high speed turns, the F4 would eat it alive.

oh yeah! I don't see it going 6 seconds faster than the Porsche, but I don't see a 185hp 1-seater beating it either, so...

918 spyder would be as well.

Yeah all 3 hybrid supercars. That way we can gauge what they're actually capable of in comparison.

Ciber At Laguna Seca, with Randy Pobst at the wheel, the 918 holds the production road car record (1:29.89). Fastest lap in Prototype 1 (sports-racers with 1000cc motorcycle engines and about the same power and weight as that Formula 4) at last November's SCCA run-offs was 1:22.397, in a Stohr WF1. It's not close , even when the road car is a hybrid hypercar...

Put a turbo on the F4, see what happens.

Take the F4 to the shop to get some groceries....oh wait...

Ref. 911 Turbo

With 100,000 big ones, I can have a couple of nice cars to get some groceries with. Both cars are great, I sure hoped the Formula 4 car would beat it since that's the one thing it was made to do.

OK, about 1,5 second less in this track. Slicks are not miracles

Ferrariman601 Its nowhere near the fastest race car vs one of the fastest road cars...thats the bit that makes it interesting, surely you get that?

If you have money, and want car for track, you must go with formula. Porsche is worst.

Any production car is a virtual bus when compared to a formula car. Only about 150mph in a straight line would that Porsche have the ability to outrun the F4 because of its superior aerodynamics and power. The Porsche is a rolling chicane everywhere else.

911 Turbo S is fast but it is not a track prepared car, its only fast in a straight line. Second important thing is 911 Turbo S is nowhere near the fastest 911 available. 911 GT3 RS would be faster on track, then 911 GT3 RS from 2019 would be even faster as it generates much more downforce than 2015 version, then 911 GT2 RS would be even faster and then 911 GT2 RS MR is the fastest currently available 911 and it could easily make more than 5 seconds of difference. So yeah they should compare it with truly fast, track oriented 911 rather than the one which only appears to be fast. Third thing is the track choice. This is probably a small, very technical circuit without long straights which favorizes F4. Let's try on a Monza and I bet 911 Turbo S will be much closer if not faster and something like already mentioned 911 GT2 RS MR would just destroy that F4 car. So this is a very biased comparison. Not all of the road legal cars are slower than race cars. Slow race cars like F4 or maybe something like BTCC may be about as fast if not a bit slower than the fastest road legal cars (and 911 Turbo S is nowhere near the fastests 911s.

@@paulstevens9409 911 Turbo S is nowhere near the fastest road legal cars or fastest 911s. It's not even designed to be fast on a track. 911 GT3 RS would be faster than that, GT3 RS from 2019 would faster than 2015, then GT2 RS would be easily faster than GT3 RS and top of it GT2 RS MR would be even faster than standard GT2 RS. See? The actual fastest Porsche (not that sluggish Turbo S) would probably be as quick as that F4 car and remember this is a very slow, technical circuit. On a Monza GT2 RS would probably destroy it.

+pakkiaman2 Damn! I need a Formula 4 Car.

+pakkiaman2 It's also probably faster than the current F1 cars from McLaren :v

+Ric Rac hahaha

At Spa, I run the lamborghini murcielago in gt1 . And I never lose.

+pakkiaman2 ...and 2015 pole position at Belgian GP (Lewis Hamilton) was 1:47:197! Just to put things into perspective.

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That would actually be kind of cool.

What's pointless here? The Porsche has a a huge horsepower advantage which to most people is the only thing that defines the performance of a car. If anything this dispels any notions of that being the sole defining factor of performance. I imagine the massive torque of the Porsche also helps to counter the weight of the car in comparison to the light F4. Had it been a racetrack with really long straights the comparison might have been more even.

Why would that be pointless? On a track i would love to see it

You mean on the roads, because the track is still in the real world.

Well, you forget slick tyres and downforce...

PlagueIsMyName Yes! I forgot that! Thanks to remember! But the weight is the main issue.

Alexandre Fernandes The weight yes. But the single seater's center of gravity and roll center are so close to the ground it almost does not roll in corners. It can pull +2g in corners easily. You can make a very tall car that weights light but it won't do well in corners. The video also made a mistake. F4 has very little downforce (compare to F3, CN 2liter prototypes, etc), it relies heavily on mechanical grip, not aero grip. It's a go kart on steroid. I track an old Formula Renault 2.0 3 times a year. These cars are naturally faster than any sports car but extremely difficult to post very competitve lap times.

golferchin76 Yes, when I mentioned weight the center of gravity was included. And indeed, the car need a minimum weight to have the necessary grip. Thanks, for your contribute!

Typical robot, always exaggerating ;)

How well do you think 911 handles potholes?

Now you're just talking crazy with cars that compete against each other. Next week, the Turbo S vs UK's finest taxi cab. Redemsion for the Turbo!

swinglow33 lol! We need this review because Steve Sutcliffe keeps gushing on about how superior the GTR is to other cars they put it against like the F10 M5. So put your money where your mouth is and test it against its strongest rival. I believe that the GTR will be beaten.

I don't think they want to embarrass the GTR that much.

chbrules that shit is already destroyed.

Ayrton Atif Indeed. Car Mag compared them and the GTR was slaughtered but it would be very amusing to see how Sutcliffe would try to talk the GTR out of that!

i think they know nothing about modify

not even a buggati chiron or maclaren p1 or 918 could even come close to a f4 car on a circuit unless they start wearing slicks and dicth there interior trim maybe a radical sr8 with 2 hayabusa engine sandwhich togeather making a v8 but that car is pretty much a formula car with head lights and semi slick barely road legal tires that car and the bac mono in its raciest trim but at that point of what you consider a road car might as well buy a formula 4 car.

Dax rush i guess

Brandy Niemeyer 2 liter

Check out the Formula Ford street racer

you need a lot more than just a trailer to maintain an f4 car, keep in mind you cant just order parts online for those

slicks and suspension alone wont buy 6 seconds on such a short track the car will have to lose at least 300kg wear slicks and racing brake pads braided steel lines racing brake fluid and to keep temps at bay your talking about a full revamp in the oiling bracking and radiator cooling system so your talking forge wheels no battary or lithuim battary and no ac no trim single bucket seats and alot of carbon composite parts and more aero like gt wing and canards and spliter but by that point its pretty much a fia speced gt car