Here is a graph of the 50S vs 50E, curtesy of eWheels. Capacity www.ewheels.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/50S-vs-50S-Capacity.jpg lifecycle www.ewheels.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Battery-Cell-Comparative-Lifespan-V2.jpg *Support the channel* E-Riderz code 'Jono', get $50 off your next EUC e-riderz.com.au/product-category/electric-unicycles/ Buying an EUC at eWheels? support the channel with my affiliate link! shrsl.com/4c8gh

This is a very informative video that confirms that I'm making the right choice in getting the EB Commander Mini with the 50S cells. I'm learning that I'm a very aggressive rider so the extra cost is justified to me.

As Electrical Engineer I have to say very good content :).

Great info, ta very much. Two of my favourite transport vehicles here : EUC and surfski in the background, nice!

Appreciate the info. Can't wait to hear more about the lynx

Thank you! Good content and good presentation. Now I'm ready for some videos on that Lynx!

Great stuff, keep it commin!

Very informative, THANKS!

Thanks buddy! I have the Lynx coming in. I ride hard too with my v12HS pushing 98% PWM!! This headroom will be awesome.

perfect timing. Thanks for the very relevant video. you should have the friend on for an interview.

Good, concise content. Thanks

Thanks brother!!🙏

Great to know !

Im goin 50s. Better the battery replacement than a hip replacement.

A lot of people think the 50S suffer from lower lifecycle. It doesn’t. Most life cycle tests on 50e is done at half of the discharge capacity. Where most 50s tests are done at full discharge capacity. When both are done at the max, the lifecycle for 50s is better. The only disadvantage to 50s is the cost, everything else is superior.

Awesome video, thank you Jon! Do you ever look at the display setting showing the amp draw while riding your Sherman S? Would love to know how many amps you draw when leaning or riding hard.

in a practical world, comparing 50e vs 50s is all just splitting hairs. If you had the choice between those 2 then yah just get the better one, but you probably won't notice any real world difference. On an average ride cruising at 30mph or so, you are drawing maybe 0.5c out the cells, probably less. All these tests and graphs are done under extreme circumstances, drawing maximum amps out of the cell. That's like going full send up a steep hill from 100% battery to 0% and that still probably wouldn't be max load (at least for the battery, controller and motor are a different story). The 600 life cycles is based on 4.2v to 2.5v which is basically you have to put it in low power mode and ride it til it dies everytime. Most likely you will get 1000-2000+ cycles if you go from 100% to 10%. Thats like 3-6 years of riding every single day 50+ miles, and at that point you'll have around 80% capacity left. It's good to know the capabilities of the batteries, but nowadays if you're getting a reputable product worrying about battery life is not necessary. what to focus on is if you're looking at performance, the controller and motor how much power they can output. Range, just look at total battery watt hours. Thats pretty much it, everything else is negligible

Safety margin is a huge plus

Im curious to see if you could actually be able to feel the difference in performance between the two types of batteries.

You should have shown the comparison on the graph with the 50e cells along with kilometer range and life cycles.

If the battery is big (3000+ Wh) you need 50S cells far, far less than if the battery is small (2000 Wh). Let's assume EUC cells work between 4.2V and 3.3V, and peak output = continuous +50%. 3000 Wh pack of 50E/50G cells can do (162 cells x 4.2V x 10A) 6.8kW continuous (10.2kW peak) output at 100% charge, down to (162 x 3.3V x 10A) 5.3kW continuous (8kW peak) at 1%. 2000 Wh pack of 50E/50G cells can do (108 cells x 4.2V x 10A) 4.5kW continuous (6.8kW peak) output at 100% charge, down to (108 x 3.3V x 10A) 3.5kW continuous (5.3kW peak) at 1%. As you can see a 2000 Wh battery wont be able to fully support a 4kW (8kW peak) motor at any % charge. But the 3000 Wh battery will support it fully all the way to 1% charge. If you're considering a 3500+ Wh EUC, dont assume you need 50S. But if you're like me and want a light, nimble, smaller battery EUC, you almost definitely want 50S inside. The middle ground 2700 Wh (146 cells?) Veteran Lynx will do 6.1kW (9.2kW peak) at 100%, down to 4.8kW (7.2kW peak) at 1%, with 50E cells. So 50E cells can almost fully support the 3.2kW (8kW peak) motor all the way down to 1% battery. It loses the 8kW peak at 40% battery. But you dont need 50S cells in the Lynx. (Disclaimer for any miscalculations or assumptons I made.)

Zen Lee has a new video where he expressed concerns about the degradation of the 50S cells based on his observations. I guess we will see.

what about 50GB?

Du coup la charge rapide n'est pas forcément bon pour les cellules en général sur toutes roue ?

Can I see on the app whether the battery is 50s or 50e?

Got the right forum link? :)

Where can i buy that red shirt?

I went 50E on my Patton and cant really see why anyone would do 50S cells unless they race the wheel. For daily fun and commuting the 50E vs 50S won't make any sort of difference.

50S better range than 50E ? (in exaclty same condition, same speed, same weight..... )

What's the price difference?

Cells in parallel NOT series decrease battery sag because they increase capacity.. Cells in series only increase top speed

The 50s batteries will get less total life. Will have to replace batteries sooner. I would rather have slightly less performance and have my batteries last longer.