Can we FIX this Classic Mercedes Cluster? (No Odometer Display)

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Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

Күн бұрын

The owner of this mint 1998 Mercedes Benz C230 says she can't read the ODOMETER, trip meter, or clock on the instrument cluster.
Most of the digital display pixels are not showing up!
Let's see if we can restore the display functionality by following this DIY repair guide:
www.benzworld.org/threads/diy...
This repair turns out to be a bit more time-consuming than expected, but the results were worth it :)
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Enjoy!
Ivan

Пікірлер: 223
@Anonymous-it5jw
@Anonymous-it5jw Жыл бұрын
Use a hairdryer to heat up the plastic clips first, to avoid snapping them off. Thanks for showing us how it is done
@jamesmcgraw9570
@jamesmcgraw9570 Жыл бұрын
We worked with Honeywell control computers that were the operator interface to our processes. When we had faulty data exchange we disconnected the ribbon cables and used an old school pencil eraser to erase both sides of theribbon cable male fitting. Plugged them back in and the proper data exchange was restored. It is like invisible green crusties
@craiggoodwin9704
@craiggoodwin9704 Жыл бұрын
We used a "Pink Pearl" eraser to clean the ribbon cables on Radio Shack Model I.🙂
@billziegmond4943
@billziegmond4943 Жыл бұрын
I drive my young co-workers crazy when I do that old trick. 😄
@kentbetts
@kentbetts Жыл бұрын
Yeah the Mercedes uses the same technology as my $1.49 desk clock.
@jonnycando
@jonnycando Жыл бұрын
Mercedes durability is a shadow of what it was….such a waste of money these days.
@vinces8974
@vinces8974 Жыл бұрын
@@kentbetts 😂😂
@craiggoodwin9704
@craiggoodwin9704 Жыл бұрын
Ivan, I think it's pretty sweet that people are looking towards you for fixes on top quality and collector cars. Shows a great amount of trust and respect for your ability and work. I've come to feel that way about you as well. Thanks for Sharing!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Thanks Craig, I have a soft spot for keeping the old reliable cars on the road :) They are like time machines to a simpler era and deserve to be cared for!
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Yeah, like a '96 Mercury.
@mitchlu
@mitchlu Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics wow, that's deep...
@michaelslee4336
@michaelslee4336 Жыл бұрын
I have a pen designed exactly for this stuff, it has gentle fibreglass bristles that you can wind in and out of the end of the tip and very handy for contacts polishing.
@norcal715
@norcal715 Жыл бұрын
You may still be missing 2 segments on the trip odometer, I think it should be a "0" Too bad there is not an 8888 segment test available. Maybe in the cluster under special functions on one of your scan tools. I am supposed to be putting up Christmas lights on my house but when I saw the notification that you have a new video.... well, I will get to the lights in due time. Thanks Ivan. Great content as always.
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 Жыл бұрын
this is a band-aid fix at best. The real cure is to remove the needles, separate the cluster halves and resolder the contacts where the ribbon cables meet the board(s). Take it from a former cluster repairman! It's almost always a failed solder issue, and the same problems can be found on many makes and models of clusters.
@frankvoynar6427
@frankvoynar6427 Жыл бұрын
This clip reminds me of my FLuke 87 multimeter display vanishing over time. Found a great repair video of oxide forming on ribbon cable to display screen. Thought my meter was slowly dying for sure. Now it's like new again
@tree8761
@tree8761 Жыл бұрын
I reaaaally enjoy your content man. Especially when we see 1 or 2 of these clusters a month at the MB dealer. We always end up send them away for repair, but this gives so much insight on the repair process. Also. I wanted to say in regards to your E63 ECU diag videos - You handled the repair and diagnosis just like Tech who's actually using all the proper tools and knowledge at their disposal. You diag'd it 1000x better than most Techs I work with and with such ease! Please keep the Mercedes coming!!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! Euro cars definitely keep things interesting 😉
@peterlworth
@peterlworth Жыл бұрын
Credit too you for being honest even though you work for MB
@stealthg35infiniti94
@stealthg35infiniti94 Жыл бұрын
I have fixed hundreds of electronic problems with just cleaning with DeoxIt 5. As a professional, the only cleaner I would recommend.
@ItllBurnOff
@ItllBurnOff Жыл бұрын
I just watched your video, it was totally awesome I would love to work alongside of you and do what you do on the daily!! That's the kind of troubleshooting and solutions that I love. Your skills are awesome. Not many people can do what you do and understand the way you do anymore.
@EricBoudle
@EricBoudle Жыл бұрын
I have been working on computers since the early 80's. Many times just unplugging a connector and wigging it back in will fix a "problem" event thou the connections look good ( IE, Reseating memory sticks or CPU"s etc.). Contact cleaner and lubricant does help too. Oxidation is hard to detect sometimes, and electronic component's are very sensitive as you know.
@tomtke7351
@tomtke7351 Жыл бұрын
You do know, right, that you are an endless stream of classes? You are training THE WORLD! 🤯 A N D your forum becomes an exchange for top technicians to add their experiences.
@howiej4084
@howiej4084 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done. I reeally like the way you work . For someone like me who retired for health reasons back in the OBD 1 era, I have learned a LOT by watching your videos. Thank you very much Ivan. You are a great teacher.
@dustcommander100
@dustcommander100 Жыл бұрын
Successful surgery! I was sweating bullets because of the possibility of the plastic being brittle, but you came thru like always!
@unclemarksdiyauto
@unclemarksdiyauto Жыл бұрын
You saved this customer a ton of money! I can't even imagine what Mercedes would have charged! Thanks for posting!
@walibran
@walibran Жыл бұрын
They wanted to charge me $1000 to do the repair which took me 30 minutes to do on my kitchen table. Same exact problem
@unclemarksdiyauto
@unclemarksdiyauto Жыл бұрын
@@walibran yikes! I believe it! And if a person didn't know what was involved, it could seem like a reasonable price. I am glad you saved the $1000! Better in your pocket.
@zenithperigee7442
@zenithperigee7442 Жыл бұрын
@Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics, hi Ivan! It was puzzling when you said "Why did it go to 7 miles?" at first it was "068.5" and then when you reinstalled it, it displayed "067.5" suggesting that 4 of the pixels on the trip-meter to form the "8" might've went back out. BUT later after you reset the airbag light, I noticed the trip-meter read "004.8" so it was a different number as if you'd taken it for a test drive and if it could display a "4" it should've had enough pixels for the "8" to form more of the "0"... Weird. Anyway, very nice fix! I wondered why they didn't use pluggable connections for that. I mean they used pluggable connections to connect the cluster with the vehicle's electrical system. It allows for easy replacement/disassembly of cables/wiring etc., and helps eliminate those "contact" issues that soldered cables can experience especially with expansion/contraction and vibrations. My old beater which was a 90's GM vehicle was said to suffer engine performance issues due to the spray coating used on the ECM PCB where it would expand/contract and cause conductive issues with some soldered components/traces.
@geepeerces
@geepeerces Жыл бұрын
One thing to be careful of with Caig Deoxit D series... it is NOT good for plastic surfaced potentiometers. its OK on ceramic and wire wound pots but the ones with plastic resistive elements, it will melt them down. D series is really just meant for contacts, like switches and jacks and such. Sure, its fine on this ribbon cable application. They have an F series for faders that often have conductive/resistive plastic elements..
@Sandmansa
@Sandmansa Жыл бұрын
That was a pretty cool fix Ivan. I've never actually fixed one of those clusters before. Always sent them out for rebuild. But had an older Jeep radio that the display failed because of a ribbon cable that came loose.
@crabmansteve6844
@crabmansteve6844 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite Benz body styles. Dude keeps that old girl clean too, love to see it.
@leeross7896
@leeross7896 Жыл бұрын
Wow the first customer ever to bring you are car with more than 3 gallons of gas in it!!!! Her service should be free :)
@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 Жыл бұрын
Very cool repair! I once had a communication code with the 4WD module in my 06 Nissan. The 4WD switched worked. The info in the diag tester switched when the 4WD switch was turned, so communication is good. HHMMMMM! Removed the ribbon cable from the module, cleaned the module side male contacts with a pencil eraser. No communication codes since then. Ribbon cables do NOT like vibration or anything that falls on or coats the male side of the board surface. Engineers obviously didn't think about covering the connector and male side.
@jamesbruno5896
@jamesbruno5896 Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed Ivan nice repair!
@sohailrabani
@sohailrabani Жыл бұрын
I thought it was holidays season but it looks ivan have European repair season 🙂.customer should really be happy with this repair.great job bro.cheers
@alleycatvietnam
@alleycatvietnam Жыл бұрын
@17:08 Ivan look out that Hawk is monitoring your driving....lol Bloody Well Done " No Parts Required " just some patience...hahaha
@robmut1357
@robmut1357 Жыл бұрын
Amazing what you can find on the internet for repairing almost anything. 😉👍
@needadate
@needadate Жыл бұрын
Use zipties for snap connections. Just open the snaps enough to push a ziptie through it and move on to the next one until they're all free. Of course any piece of slim, thin and stiff enough material could be used, but everyone has zipties. ;-)
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the idea
@jimforsyth2.
@jimforsyth2. Жыл бұрын
Dude the fix isn't bad it's keeping everything clean for the end result
@johnleinen7167
@johnleinen7167 Жыл бұрын
One of the best ,202 chassis , don't forget the AMG versions C36 and my fav the C43 AMG V-8 beast! Yes they put a v8 in these too.
@raymondreiff8170
@raymondreiff8170 Жыл бұрын
Wow nice to see it all work like new again 👍, Nowadays when your 2022 digital dash goes out you'll need a new one probably 😁.
@roxanneabbott8424
@roxanneabbott8424 Жыл бұрын
Yeah buddy, NPR!! Awesome fix Ivan!!
@calholli
@calholli Жыл бұрын
The 90's had some sick cars. Toyota, Hondas, Lexus, Acrua, a few Nissans, even BMW and Mercedes. They had the best technology, but in it's simplest form. If you find a 90's car with low miles, you found a gem.
@rkan2
@rkan2 Жыл бұрын
90s design but built in the 2000s is best :P
@eugenealymov2723
@eugenealymov2723 Жыл бұрын
BMWs and Mercedes of the 90s were the best cars. All downhill from there.
@calholli
@calholli Жыл бұрын
@@rkan2 I can't argue with that. I have a 2002 Acura MDX that's AWD, 3 rows of heated leather seats that lay down, moon roof, dual climate AC, 3.5L Honda Vtec engine. It's so awesome. Zero rust, zero dents, and NO leaks anywhere under this thing, only 155k miles, and I got it for $1700. bwahhaah.. I freaking stole this thing.. It's such a great car. and I still have my 2002 F350 7.3L 6spd 4x4, manual transfer case, manual locking hubs, manual everything.. manual seats, manual locks and windows, manual mirrors. It doesn't even have tilt or cruise, but it's such a great truck. I have over 340k miles on it now, and it's still going strong. It's more like a tractor than a truck. 9ft flat bed; I've pulled a lot of heavy trailers with it over the years.. So I have to agree that early 2000's vehicles were awesome, and still are... Before that I drove a 95 F150 with 302. 5spd 4x4. I drove it to 330k miles and it finally spun a bearing. It never gave me any trouble whatsoever; Even when it spun a bearing I still drove it home, with the engine HAMMERING like crazy. lol.. and during those years I also drove a 97 Isuzu Rodeo 5spd 4x4-- great little SUV that's a sleeper off road. It has almost 320k miles and it finally threw the timing belt.. I ran it hard on the trails and at the dunes, and it never broke anything the entire time I had it.. I still have that thing, and the entire timing belt kit online is only $90- including water pump and pullies, etc, and I could get it going again. lol......... These 4 cars are all that I've driven for that past 20 years, and they were literally flawlessly reliable until the end. Pretty wild. I love 90's cars (and early 2000's)... I know the year right after my 2002 7.3L Diesel was the last year that they made the 7.3L Powerstroke -- and then they made the 6.0L in the second half of 2003... and it was all down hill from there, because it had a lot of problems with blown engines. That only lasted like 4 years, and then they just threw away that design because it was costing Ford so much money from all the problems it was having, while still being under warranty. Then they made a 6.4L or 6.7L diesels, and they were terrible and had lots of issues. smh.. and now Diesels have some silly "exhaust particulate filter" system now; smh. insane. I would never buy a modern diesel now. I think I got lucky, and got one of the best trucks Ford ever made, which is the final years of the 7.3L... Granted, mine is very basic and not a King Ranch or anything-- but at 340k miles, it's still a strong truck and runs great-- and since it's a manual, I don't have to worry about an automatic transmission dying (because they always do). People stop and ask me to sell it all the time, so I guess it's pretty well known to be a good truck. Cheers. Long live the 90's/2000's vehicles. lol
@AP9311
@AP9311 Жыл бұрын
Wow, nice fix on 98 banger lol I had similer problem with my cluster with gm 98 blazer. Them motors need oil to get them to work nicely lol. Awesome video!! Many thumbs up 👍 👌
@leefalvey9670
@leefalvey9670 Жыл бұрын
never doubted you would nail it
@billlangdon9198
@billlangdon9198 Жыл бұрын
Nice work Ivan.
@brianw8963
@brianw8963 Жыл бұрын
Nice work Ivan. 👍
@MTLeopold
@MTLeopold Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Ivan. Trust me you don't want to have to recalibrate those needles. PITA.
@jo300hn
@jo300hn Жыл бұрын
On the Fluke meters made in the 90s, when we found missing segments on the LCDs just a matter of removing the conductive silicon bars/strios from under the glass display and wiping them gently with alcohol sparingly, reassemble and all good
@jimkillen1065
@jimkillen1065 7 ай бұрын
Amazing work thank for the videos
@lrrromicronpersei8294
@lrrromicronpersei8294 Жыл бұрын
Nice job I had a 2000 S class with the fluorescent tubes that fail so I swapped them all for leds with a Pwm controller for brightness control that was a fun one lol
@brianmcglynn9732
@brianmcglynn9732 Жыл бұрын
To get things like that apart i use shims. I took 10 thou shim stock and cut various width and length pieces. I had a Mercedes-Benz board in a plastic box with 12 snaps, piece o' cake. Just slip shims under the various snaps, bigo bango done.
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 Жыл бұрын
That acceleration run is very impressive for 1984 four cylinder I'm really impressed with the quality of that car overall
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv Жыл бұрын
I like that almost no parts fix ..... The elastic band lol. I have an old radio shack micronta digital multimeter with number fade/vanish. The display had a really thin ribbon that was stuck down to the pcb tracks (Bad design). I made a flat bar from aluminium and drilled holes at the ends, also drilled holes in the pcb where the ribbon connected to the pcb tracks. Yep i put the screws in place and tightened the little nuts (compressed ribbon and pcb together). That stopped it's little game lol. It's an ancient multimeter but i like it. Sorry long waffle.
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
I have a neighbor that has a 1967 Mercedes-Benz 250S. He brought that car over the other day and we racked it up and looked underneath it. While the front suspension is Short-long-arm it has kingpins instead of balljoints. The rear has a swing-axle that originally had a device called a pneumatic compensator in the center near the differential. He has since replaced that with a spring. We lowered it to the ground and raised the hood. That 2.5 liter in-line 6 has 2 Zenith carburetors; I could see you under there synchronizing those carburetors. He asked me if I wanted to drive it, so to be polite I said I would. It is a 4 speed and, no, I didn't "give it the beans." The dashboard is Burled Walnut and those gauges are a work of art! That's my idea of a classic M-B. Great video!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Same year as my neighbors '67 Austin Healey...also with carbs and Kingpins ;)
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 Жыл бұрын
Mechanical gauges seem to be the best
@windward2818
@windward2818 Жыл бұрын
If the ribbon cable is a sandwich style connection to the PCB, you can undo the latch clean the ribbon and the PCB traces, reinstall and latch. What is needed is to scrub the PCB and ribbon cable contacts clean with Deoxit D5, then apply Deoxit D100 before reconnecting. You would have to remove the needles to gain full access to the board. You have to protect the readout face with a thin cloth on both sides of the needle base, then use tow curved tools to lift up simultaneously on both sides. If you want to practice get a junk boneyard cluster of older vintage, disassemble and lift the needles. I use two old curved chip pullers (DIP socketed device pullers) which work very well.
@jamespn
@jamespn Жыл бұрын
Prying on plastic, not knowing if it will break or not is always so much fun on modern cars.
@bernardaflores1720
@bernardaflores1720 Жыл бұрын
The magic of the internet and some magical fingers and is all back together.
@walibran
@walibran Жыл бұрын
I had the same problem with my 2000 E320 ( temp, clock and gear selector readout) and did the same thing 4 years ago and the problems are returning. Might have to break down and but new ribbon cables and do a proper repair. Nice job though!
@duotronic6451
@duotronic6451 Жыл бұрын
Late 90s golden era of automobiles. Who would have thought.
@petepeabody8905
@petepeabody8905 Жыл бұрын
Ivan enjoyable and informative
@jenpw1525
@jenpw1525 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. My son has a 2002 e4matic that he bought off my parents. He’s been modifying the car lights and took the instrument cluster out to change those lights to blue. Now none of the cluster works. No speedometer or gas gage or lights. We checked that the fuse is fine. I’m going to try these fixes tomorrow on his car.
@timkoskey4940
@timkoskey4940 Жыл бұрын
I cringed every time I heard the plastic squeak. Old plastic is brittle and easily breaks. You did a good job being gentle with this cluster.
@ramiabouassi457
@ramiabouassi457 Жыл бұрын
Great work thanks, i didnt know the link of the program
@Grayhook1
@Grayhook1 Жыл бұрын
Had non-functional digital clock in a ‘92 Maxima that drove me crazy. Resoldered internal connections and good as new. Old solder was contaminated, thanks to mass production process and was a common failure. That car otherwise was a blast.
@NickAlexander_is_Awesome
@NickAlexander_is_Awesome Жыл бұрын
Nice job, we had the same deal in my girlfriend's 08 Acura center display unit. It's an led screen with a speaker on top of it It would flicker on and off. I took it out, reflowed the solder with the help of a KZfaq video, and boom good as new, no parts required.
@bobstiff
@bobstiff Жыл бұрын
Common problem on L322 Range Rovers, also the radio displays. Fixed several like this.
@cinquecento1985
@cinquecento1985 Жыл бұрын
Cluster repair has a great market.
@bugzie-a1769
@bugzie-a1769 Жыл бұрын
You magic, i watch every video, thank you for sharing
@tomvleeuwen
@tomvleeuwen Жыл бұрын
Snap-On can do DTC and live-data on 1992 Rover's. I have to see any other modern scan tool do that. Purpose-specific scan tools from that era obviously go much further with bidirectional controls, but for a universal modern scanner I think it's quite impressive.
@JBlake-moon-shdo
@JBlake-moon-shdo Жыл бұрын
Classic and quality used in the same sentence on a 1998 Mercedes. Hahaha. Now that was funny Ivan. 👍
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
I'll take it over the 2010 model any day of the week 😅
@JBlake-moon-shdo
@JBlake-moon-shdo Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics hahaha, we'll see if you are still making these types of repairs, in say 2032 you just might say the very same thing about the 2010. My point is when this amount of planned obsolescence and high speed production started quality disappeared.
@JBlake-moon-shdo
@JBlake-moon-shdo Жыл бұрын
@Les Reeves Hahaha Les, it came for me years ago. It's all part of a learning curve. Some learn and sadly, some don't. 👍
@montestu5502
@montestu5502 Жыл бұрын
Nice fix!
@fredsalter1915
@fredsalter1915 Жыл бұрын
17:15 The clock display doesn't look centered in its window. Excellent video yet again, sir!!!
@alward9901
@alward9901 Жыл бұрын
Excellent fix 👍🇺🇸
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT Жыл бұрын
Nice NPR work Ivan! I have a Renault Laguna about the same age, but I'm not that that lucky - there is a ribbon cable to the odometer that does not make proper contact, but it's the thin foil glued type and I just can't make all contacts work - always one or two that fail after applying heat. Been waiting for a cheap used cluster, but it's hard to find or too expensive. Glad it wasn't the case here :-)
@Anonymous-it5jw
@Anonymous-it5jw Жыл бұрын
Use the high strength De-Oxit spray to remove the corrosion in your Renault.
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT Жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-it5jw Thanks, but it's the thin ribbon foil that is degraded. Can't do much about it - it's the exact same problem as in calculators and the method shown in this bad video does not work because there is not enough length to trim the bad part out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zs5kftpnqJfPmn0.html
@RichL8223
@RichL8223 Жыл бұрын
Now that’s a Mercedes’ worth keeping
@robpeabo509
@robpeabo509 Жыл бұрын
I can see Mercedes now providing a TSB stating the factory repair as being: Service Clerk to quote customer 8 hours Labour plus Mercedes Part number: Rip-Off-666 @ $298.00 each - 3 kits required (1 x rubber band 4mm wide x 2mm thick per kit) R&R procedure: 1) Watch PHAD video 2) Remove instrument cluster (refer Instrument cluster section of the manual) 3) Separate display from electronic board (refer Instrument cluster section of the manual) 4) Spray Deoxit on ribbon contact area and leave for 7 hours 5) Cut rubber band into lengths as wide as the ribbon cable connector 6) Carefully slide the rubber band above the existing foam in the ribbon cable connector 7) Reassemble the instrument cluster & reinstall into the vehicle 8) Verify repair 9) Clear trouble codes 10) Write report and close out job 11) Service Clerk to issue invoice to customer for quoted amount
@michaelweatherhead9470
@michaelweatherhead9470 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Ivan not as complex as the other Mercedes.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Well 16 modules on a 1998 was pretty fancy at the time ;)
@kevin9c1
@kevin9c1 Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Yes, and in a C class, too.
@paulstaf
@paulstaf Жыл бұрын
Awesome, did it in less than 3 videos too! :D
@motorwolfe
@motorwolfe Жыл бұрын
excellent work on those ribbon cables - the cluster display issue is endemic on millennial-era Benz models with the split digital dash displays (as opposed to the ones that have all the digital readouts only in the center, those never go bad). those cables are indeed very fiddly to sort out and it takes a fine hand. surprised to see you had to remove the steering wheel on the W202 C-class to extract the cluster - on the W210 E-class you can just adjust the wheel to its maximum out & down setting and then pop the cluster right out. also I think most tablet scanners will work on the StarTec (38-pin) proprietary OBD-II connector in the underhood fusebox, I use an Autel DS-808 and it works very well. good thing I wasn't working on it - I might have been tempted to remediate that steering wheel cover disaster. yikes 😱
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Yeah steering wheel is not adjustable on the C class 😁
@dans_Learning_Curve
@dans_Learning_Curve Жыл бұрын
Nice work! Are you running a 3D printer in the background?
@johnlenoir1023
@johnlenoir1023 Жыл бұрын
Wow I would hate to see how much the dealer would charge for that if they would even do all that or try to get a replacement dash if that's even unavailable part love the video thank you
@kerrylewis2581
@kerrylewis2581 Жыл бұрын
Another happy PHAD customer
@gfccbgjxvhd874
@gfccbgjxvhd874 Жыл бұрын
Merci pour tes vidéos 👍
@Markb8608
@Markb8608 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ivan Love your work. Would love a video on how you remove old files or perform updates in ThinktoolProS. I got one but missed. the sales.
@Narendra--Modi
@Narendra--Modi Жыл бұрын
Erasers work best cleaning ribbon cable contacts, also slicing off a tiny edge with a sharp blade works great.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
But they are glued to the circuit board lol
@Narendra--Modi
@Narendra--Modi Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I hate those glued ones, packing is great but rubberband does deteriorate and break in time.
@ourtexasfamilyvideos62
@ourtexasfamilyvideos62 Жыл бұрын
I long for the days of the pre computer cars. I know they are less fuel efficient and produce more emissions. However, old dudes like me can work on them. I'm trying my best to preserve my 2007 Toyota Matrix which I can repair with the help of a scanner. Yes, old guys like me are trying to learn.
@frizzlefry1921
@frizzlefry1921 Жыл бұрын
'70s hand full of wrenches and $20 you could fix almost anything.
@hikerJohn
@hikerJohn Жыл бұрын
I know regular rubber bands don't last very long any more. Maybe silicone rubber would be the way to go. Cant tell by looking if those are silicone or not. Silicone being the kind used to hold food together for cooking like the rotisserie chicken from Costco.
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 Жыл бұрын
The ones they use to tie asparagus vegetables together last a long time. They are usually purple in color and 2 or 3 times wider than most rubber bands.
@jo300hn
@jo300hn Жыл бұрын
Yep, they'll slowly disintegrate, O ring material might be the go or slice up so gasket material, a little bit of McGyvering required to achieve a permanent fix.
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 Жыл бұрын
@@jo300hn Neoprene
@elBanndito
@elBanndito Жыл бұрын
Personally, I use old bicycle tubes made of butyl. I'm sure they won't turn into sticky slime.
@ScottDLR
@ScottDLR Жыл бұрын
Nice work Ivan. I've found those ribbon cables to be problematic anywhere they are used. I think I would have replaced all the dash lights while I was in there but I'm kinda OCD that way.
@fsaneil
@fsaneil Жыл бұрын
Same with me, but when you are paid x amount for problem #1, you shouldn't do problem #2 even "while you're in there". He did the right thing. I have to remind myself to not to extra work when asked to do only 1 task.
@mikedaugharty5544
@mikedaugharty5544 Жыл бұрын
what do you use for deoxys you're talking about great job there ivan
@greyguy9767
@greyguy9767 Жыл бұрын
Good job.
@themalewhale59
@themalewhale59 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the deoxit would have solved it on it's own? Guessing it will be a while before Ivan gets another one in to try it on....
@TheFrenchPug
@TheFrenchPug Жыл бұрын
Dang Ivan. What made you think of the rubber band fix? Love that MacGyver stuff!
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
Russian repair.
@michaelpickett6573
@michaelpickett6573 Жыл бұрын
FUNNY saw you last set of videos and bought the scan tool and yes that wasnt a deal its a steal and now this the same car as mine with the same problem
@steveingalls6798
@steveingalls6798 Жыл бұрын
Ivan, Have you ever tried the Craig Deoxit R100 & B100. Those versions are 100% strength & come in nail polish bottles. Good stuff !!
@steveingalls6798
@steveingalls6798 Жыл бұрын
Caig not "Craig" 🤬
@stealthg35infiniti94
@stealthg35infiniti94 Жыл бұрын
I have found the 5 red is the most common for most 99% applications. The Gold, Green, and Blue have their place.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
I have the bottles...but always reach for the quick spray haha
@lbproductions3613
@lbproductions3613 Жыл бұрын
Why did you cut out placing the rubber bands into the cluster? How should we know how to do it?
@johnstancato8785
@johnstancato8785 Жыл бұрын
Come on Ivan the title said a muscle car a muscle car is a GTO and Chevelle Impala Nova Malibu SS those are muscle cars love the channel God bless
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Definitely not much muscle in this 4-banger...but probably decent on gas! :)
@billziegmond4943
@billziegmond4943 Жыл бұрын
What's the parts cost on a medium thick rubber band. 🤣🤣🤣 Great job my friend.
@mikecalvin1402
@mikecalvin1402 Жыл бұрын
Winner winner 🏆 🥇
@62ejo
@62ejo Жыл бұрын
Ivan you said obd 1 it's a 1998 shouldn't it be obd 2??? Nice fix....
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's OBD2 emissions but you need the special adapter under the hood to talk to all the other modules 😁
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I thought 1996 was the first year for OBD II.
@jamesevans7537
@jamesevans7537 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ivan.... Have your ever fixed the needle gauges, in like a 2004 F150? Battery indicator never goes to the right place. All other gauges work fine. Any fix for that?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
hmmm I've replaced needle stepper motors on the GM trucks, but not Fords. Who needs the battery indicator anyways ;)
@jamesevans7537
@jamesevans7537 Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics more of an irk, however, my truck currently needs way more than that! 🥴
@jessicav2031
@jessicav2031 Жыл бұрын
Gosh, I wouldn't use rubber bands next time. Have you noticed how it only takes a year or three before they become dry and crumbly? There has to be some material you can use that is more long-lived than that :(
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
I have an assortment pack from like 5 years ago. Some of them age and crumble, while other ones look mint ant stretchy. Wonder if the material composition is different?
@tonyb1968
@tonyb1968 Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnosticsA thin film of glycerin on them will help but they'll rot in there. I make wire fasteners for Boeing aircraft. It's all nylon (boiled after injection molding)
@speedy_pit_stop
@speedy_pit_stop Жыл бұрын
I was also a little leery about the rubber bands, in Florida these things dry up in no time due to heat & moisture. I'm thinking sections of vacuum tubing might do well here. Still a great video on how to potentially fix inst. clusters. DeoxIT for the win.
@KennyNica
@KennyNica Жыл бұрын
The small cloth-covered hair bands that women use to hold their ponytails, have a long life and they don't melt with age.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
@@KennyNica that would be too thick and uncompliant for this application. However a small slice of bicycle inner tube might last longer than a rubber band 🤔
@aleskyfinis1025
@aleskyfinis1025 Жыл бұрын
That’s cool
@puffthepimp
@puffthepimp Жыл бұрын
Lol... First! Love the content Ivan!
@Laurelinad
@Laurelinad Жыл бұрын
@Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics so, after that you could look at my 1992 audi 80 b4 (8c2) 2.0L 66kW pre-OBD cluster? :D :D
@stevekrueger3928
@stevekrueger3928 Жыл бұрын
Ivan, Very nice repair to a terribly-engineered design. I for one will not own a German car (as if US cars are any better...) These types of connections are notorious within the entire electrical design environment.
@GarthGoldberg
@GarthGoldberg Жыл бұрын
How many modules in a VAZ?
@fernandomoran5979
@fernandomoran5979 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2014 mercedes cla 250 . On my cluster the mileage does not appear..i only see- - - - - - this lines..i pay the mercedes dealership and they said that the cluster is bad...so i change the cluster and still having the same problem ..so i return to the dealership and now they said that i need another cluster? And i am sure my cluster is ok ..because i removed from a good working car same as my car...but they want me to buy one cluster from them..and the price is 1800 ....can you guide me please 🙏
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 Жыл бұрын
Does cars were built very very well
@fieldsofomagh
@fieldsofomagh Жыл бұрын
A lot of modules for a 90's car. Not short of zip either. "Tip toe through the plastic with me"
@Truett49
@Truett49 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever used or checked out the XTOOL D7, D8 or D9 scanners. The D7 is supposed to be more for DIYers and the D% and D( for pros.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
I have...not that impressed. Autel and Launch is a better investment :)
@Truett49
@Truett49 Жыл бұрын
Ok. Thank you.
@reese8752
@reese8752 Жыл бұрын
I miss the days when Quality was a thing.
@abdulkreemalsultan134
@abdulkreemalsultan134 Жыл бұрын
The question is how long will the rubber will last with the hot weather and inside the car more heat?
@GarthGoldberg
@GarthGoldberg Жыл бұрын
You're not supposed to say, "ooh", when you're doing surgery. You say, "there you go."
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