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Decentralization is the key to our future as a race, on a macro scale. Not just applicable to the energy problem, but many others.

The biggest obstacle that lies ahead is the stigma created by mainstream science

Really appreciate the cautiousness and precise words of prof. Moddel about what we know and what we don't know. Yet this caution does not stymie his creativeness!

There’s no trouble here in believing one impossible thing at a time. Thank you, thank you, for the inspiration.

Please do more interviews with this man!!! He is brilliant!! I would love to know what garret thinks of Dan winters model of Negentropy as a means of "tapping" the zero point? I believe it's built off of Tom bearden work

This man is an inspiration. I wish that I could invest directly in his work.

"People have trouble believe more than one impossible thing at a time", I love it!

😮 Jeffrey 😍! You always have the most fascinating guests on your program! And professor moddel is no exception. This subject is fascinating. Thank you, to the both of you for this program tonight ❤️❤️❤️

Nassim Haramein has just published a paper on this topic - and he has two sets of videos, one for physicists and the other for ordinary people lol. Interesting topic.

Wonderful interview! Thank you both!

Garret was one of my professors back in the days. I remember having this very discussion with him. Enjoyed the trip down memory lane.

I have been interested in Garret Moddel's work for quite some time so I was excited to see you have him on your show. Thank you so much Jeffrey, I do hope he will be on again perhaps with updates on this most interesting technology.

Can we make guest requests? If, so, if any way possible, one that I believe is a rising star in alternative physics is Bob Greenyer of the Martin Fleishman Memorial Project. I believe the audience of this channel would be delighted and intrigued to hear about him, his research, and some amazing discoveries and insights not just in strange physics, but his contagious excitement (and interest in the paranormal w/some stuff that ties into these discoveries with compelling evidence - even evidence going back into time of, what he calls, re-discoveries of bizarre phenomena that he believes are actually common place). Topics from exotic vacuum objects, relic neutrinos and stellar alignments, jellifying matter, strange radiation, ball lightning, UFOs/UAPs, antigravity, telekinesis, room temp transmutation of elements and sacred geometry. His research ties in more disciplines than anything I've seen in my life (They're all connected via a single phenomenon) www.youtube.com/@MFMP

Always appreciate bringing fascinating topics

Jeffrey, Ethics... scientists who create life changing technologies should be having ethics in mind constantly. "Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should" - Jurassic Park. There's no doubt society, Governments and Corporations are not ready.

Very interesting! One question I would ask him is if he intends to patent his work. Because afaik Dr. Steven Greer is still looking for workable zero-point energy tech that he would live-stream and make available open source with crowdfunding of $200 million. The world is ready for this technology.

Loving this conversation, I think this amazing work of Garrets has a place in this time of extraordinary phenomena, I wish him all the best in meeting an open minded philanthropist Soon.

The idea that everything is vibrating and that empty space isn't empty is Ethereally attractive to many of us. Perhaps our shared existence is best described in terms of a three-dimensional pixel-like structure. Like the screen you are reading these words on, the Universe is made of fundamental "pixels". Unlike the screen you are viewing, these pixels define all three dimensions rather than two. By the way, and as far as I know, the mainstream model has moved beyond the idea that electrons orbit the atom like planets orbiting the Sun. I believe they talk about an "electron shell" now. Thanks for another cosmically interesting interview!

Thank you both. It's nice to know that the idea of Zero Point Energy is still alive.

If we viewed Mr Moddel's inventions as a necessary step to human evolution and not as an energy industry investment, the means to get the technology scaled up would appear almost instantly!

What a great interview. Garret is amzing

Wow! Great interview. Buy the way the wi-if above your sensors is not just wi-if ..

I worry about Garrets health and safety. All the things going wrong in his lab that have contaminated his experiments sound like they might actually be sabotages to keep him from succeeding. Obviously this would be world changing technology, and a lot of people would stand to lose a lot of money. Especially the power grid companies along with wind and solar power companies. I worry about them coming after Garret, and I fear he would wake up one day and randomly have a heart attack!😢 I pray for his protection! The world needs this technology for the betterment of our future!

An excellent and very respectful interview on a tricky subject to cover!!! I've been obseving this field (zp energy) since 1991. Spent a week with Bruce DePalma back then, and I co-founded an interest organisation in the field back then which is still active today. The field is plagued with noise and charlatans - so we who are serious about this matter needs to be BETTER than the science community in sorting out signal from noise. This interview is an example of the respect, carefulness and rigidty that needs to be upheld for progress to be made. Well done @NewThinkingAllowed

Any breakthrough starts at a point. Then the hole gets bigger. This is an important work. It may change the world fundamentally.

As the universe expands, so does my awareness of how much I don't know. In that vein - though this is hardly the first NTA talk I've struggled to comprehend - I still like to think I'd avoid installing Wi-Fi near labs with quantum mechanical systems. Mercy.

My advice is you manufacture an led flashlight that needs no battery! When people see it work, the rest will be history!

Jeffery & Garret, enjoyed this video, great topic. BTW, through observation, we have a good example that demonstrates the violation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics, which is called the Meissner Effect. In this case, a superconductor can harness the Casimir Force, and be modulated to produce electricity. Through modulation, the superconductor is modulated and used to generate electricity. My company is working on such a system and my goal is to show this is possible. -e

You are such intelligent and gifted people. I'm very impressed. Thank you so much.

Let s crowdfound this !!!!

I hope everyone who sees this shares it on facebook. I'm not on anything else (that I know how to work) but I'm really hoping this is thoroughly investigated and a model made.

Max Planck said that science advances one funeral at a time. Or more precisely: “A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.”

I love this channel, and Jeffery Sir you’re a good man.

I've read two or three books about ZPE written by some very smart physicists in the 1980s and I found them all very interesting. I am pleasantly surprised to see a discussion on it here.

This particular technological approach to energy generation seems very logical, and will need to be scaled to prove commercial viability. Best of luck getting it invested and commercialized Garret !

Thank you Jeffrey, another wonderful interview. And was lovely to see how thoughtful and intelligent your questions and comments were in this very high level conversation with this brilliant scientific mind.

You are such a pleasurable interviewer Geoff and what a wonderful energy given off by the interviewee! What a pleasure 😊

Yay! I am so happy that the algorithm has detected that I am the type of person who wants to listen to professors and new thinking.

Thank you for this one Jeffrey! ❤

This man is making history !

Great interview. A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL? When a magnet accelerates towards another, do the atoms that make up the magnet experience a GeForce? If I was to answer that myself, I would say no the magnet doesn't experience any GeForce. The inertia that exists between the two magents cancels out the GeForce that the magnet would normally experience if it was just tossed through a space by itself. Therefore if you were able to place a lump of metal in space and were able to project a magnet field in front of it It would be able to exccelerate to unbelievable speeds without experiencing any GeForce. The answer to high speed space travel is not propulsion but use of inertia. Magnets aren't attracted to one another, they are attracted to the empty space of inertia between them. That empty space of inertia can also be called zero point energy. I've been on this planet a while now and think its odd that I've never heard anyone talk about the fact that a magnet accelerating towards another magnet field is the only thing on this planet that can move without experiencing a GeForce.

Can't believe funding has not been made available - maybe that will change now Garret has been able to share his hypothesis.

I really like how you guys add overlayed pictures on the video. Really utilize the opportunity to teach what he is talking about without requiring the viewer to do additional research, thus saving us many hours.

Great show! Thanks Jeffrey for another one:)

Awesome research and so much potential. I hope the scientific community and investors can allow the urgency of the need for clean energy to break through their caution and conservatism.

The revolution is already here, it’s underway. For the past 30 years and the past 20 since my book about the epistemology of the future came out, I have predicted the intellectual trajectory of the world. I know what is in the way of the revolution and a lot of it is psychological because of the system of education and social rewards/niches we have constructed. I can tell you today staggeringly amazing things about the universe. I figured out what everything is. Science so far has told us how things work, what their constituents are, what are the causal relationships. But beginning with my first book, I show that language is a property of the universe. That doesn’t seem too amazing until you realize the technologies of the future are made on these ideas: there are natural laws of meaning. It’s like food vs chemistry-we spent millions of years regarding chemistry primary for eating. It’s similar in epistemological topography to that state of affairs. I am totally serious. We think we invented language and that metaphor is “just a metaphor”, but it’s hard-core technological aspects of the construction of reality. You have to stand outside it to Know what we are. What everything is. The astonishing thing is that it fits together only one way. Without science, we never would have seen it whole. My stats: upper 1% measured IQ, and upper 5% in agreeableness (not competitive). In the psychological trait “openness”, I am as high as it is possible to be. So I have no reason whatever to need to be a revolutionary. It’s just the truth. Like Sherlock Holmes, when you remove all the lesser explanations then what remains, no matter how outlandish, must be the truth. It is. There is literally no question. When electricity was discovered, very prominent and intelligent people asked what possible use it could be? So humans are very blind to their own patterns and collective dynamics and that’s partly because of how evolution works, but also because of the motivations of the current crop of scientists and the fact that everything seems so complex that they specialize. I never did any of that. So I hope that helps people understand. It was very difficult to make a mind that works like reality does. It cost me a lot. But I knew from an early age I was extremely fortunate and insightful about things even though other people didn’t understand it. That was OK, I didn’t need to prove anything. I just loved doing it. But now I know absolutely without question that humans will not have a future without these ideas and understanding. If you think I’m crazy, I also scored 95th percentile on mental stability. Chances are very good that you are crazier than me 😂 “The Textbook of the Universe: the Genetic Ascent to God” was my first book. I can’t get a paper published anywhere ironically because they only accept KNOWN papers from KNOWN people about KNOWN issues. So I definitely liked what you said about Kuhn and the current paradigm. However it is a very different world -much more funded and organized and basically we built a huge psychological “Great Wall” against change. I am on the other side of that wall. I cannot knock forever. I keep writing posts like this on various videos, and I wrote grant proposals and articles. I don’t know what else to do. Today, things are so complex, we have come to rely on the heuristic of accolades for who we listen to. Even at the liberal Santa Fe institute i watched a video yesterday that they introduced the speaker by many achievements and degrees. What ever happened to recognizing wisdom and meaning in what someone is saying? I can tell right away when someone is truly smart and motivated by truth primarily. BECAUSE I understand how information is organized in the universe and why. That’s precisely what is missing. I left graduate school to write that book. After 4 years in the Phd program I left because they were wrong. Everyone. For example, I saw the “binding problem” and was writing about it many years before it was named, Need I say more? We don’t teach our students to be revolutionary because you cannot teach that. We give people a voice, and there is a tsunami proliferation of voices, because of our complex education system and so many people have degrees now. That can backfire on you. Because of the way information works in the universe, it’s like cutting the engines on a rocket headed to orbit too soon, so you can save some money or something. It’s going to come crashing down. There’s a velocity and a gravitational barrier to the future we are crossing. There is good reason why it has to happen fast. We should NOT be training AI without knowing what the hell we are doing in the larger information sense. I do know. I’m apparently the only person on Earth who knows what everything is. People think too narrowly and practical-mindedly. They are eating while I’m doing chemistry. Gluttony is a mortal sin, people. 😂 but I am actually serious. Good luck to you my friend! I wish you the best with your research. I know you understand what I mean about a wall. Thank you for speaking with Jeffrey today. I am still writing and trying: we will get there. ❤

Thank you Dr. Garret. My hope is that your ideas will flourish!!

I think that the Stanley Meyer Water Fuel Cell (WFC) already solved the Energy Crisis back in the early 80’s by consuming the Co-Valance Bonds that bind Matter (Water) together. So Meyers WFC consumes these Electrons from Water using an electrostatic High Voltage tension field to create a Hydrogen Gas that has missing Electrons giving this Hydrogen a +Positive Charge as well as Magnetic Properties. Meyer also included a method for adding Electrons to other mediums to enable an electrostatic binding to his +Positively Charged Hydrogen Gas that has missing orbital Electrons!… We can make our own Petrol just by combining Hydrogen with Carbon creating Hydrocarbons! The end game for the Oil Elites will be either Lab Made Petrol or Lab Made Ammonia that they’ll sell to everyone as a replacement to their Oil based Petroleum Fuel! It’d most probably be Ammonia because its easier to make!

I'm not a scientist or maths person, so here are the analogies I see: laminar water flowing from a spout at the bottom of a bucket of water; laser light; light "flowing" in a fiber optic cable; air flowing at various speeds and pressures in a venturi tube or over an airfoil. But, rather than electrons sped by a magnet to make electricity, this is more like an empty tube with a source of energy in a surrounding area (bucket with spout again) and the tunneling device Pushes water into the tube/spout and out into open air/space. Water conserved, but moved. Could it be empowered by the magnet ---> electricity technique? Would superconductivity2 be useful? Could that energy be contained in a battery? Is matter literally disinegrated by this or is it a direct access to energy without intervening nuclear forces of matter? Cynicism is the only rational position to take. Humans didn't evolve to deal with electrons, so we really don't know that scale. Take for example all the time burning wood, coal, oil, and gas, and then there is photovoltaics. Prove it!

I am doing a final edit on a science fiction novel. In the novel they use a power source called zero point. However it is made possible because of an interaction between unseen parallel universes. In the novel people can extract energy and even some matter. They continually build spinning cities in empty space. Of course leading to a troubling population deficit. The cool thing about the novel is people don't island hop between far away stars. They aren't like ancient mariners traveling between islands. But are more like pioneers settling the plains of the old west but these plains are unlimited in scope. The novel is set in a time far enough in the future that there are hundreds of alien cultures but all of them can trace their lineage back to earth. Distrust is a common theme because radio signals take so long to cross such vast distances. If you don't know what 'they' are doing most tend to fear the worst. Especially because their ancestors moved outward repeatedly for mostly political reasons.

Fascinating interview

Perhaps useful to make utility heavy duty supercapacitor charger that can regulate down easily for 48 volt DC high Amp industrial or household loads, make a farm tractor 🚜 or winter home 🏡 as examples. Much of Scientific Process has the faith that New STUFF is really possible. Be lazy enough not to fight the benefits of discovery. I love your work. Thanks, John

Great interview! This information is extremely valuable to humanity! 🙏

2 plates in parallel plane will attract eachother at nearly any distance due to the infinite spectrum allowable outside the plates VS the "limited" number of wavelengths inside plates of any given distance. This is true, unless the gap inside of the plate and outside of the plate are equal, somehow.

I can't believe google or apple or someone hasn't jumped on this. Infinite energy! That could change everything.

Fascinating, I watch a video with Randall Carlson suggesting that he is aware of some potentially viable cheap or free energy technology and now this pops up in my feed. I wonder what has changed to make this topic ‘trendy’ rather than a cause for ‘concern’? Excellent podcast, can’t wait to see how things go!

I think we already do. Current does not travel down wires. By activating a difference is electrical pressure (voltage), are we in fact drawing current from the Zero Point Field?

The differential btwn the inside and outside of the plates could be used in quantum computing to verify the computations.

On the Right path and so Very close.......Jeffrey must have this stellar guest back on for further discussion...He is also Seeding the minds of inventers everywhere who are not bound by conventional thinking...

You must have an entropic gradient to extract work from a system. If there is no gradient, you cannot create one and expect to extract net work from the combined endeavor.

Nice theory. Discarding confusions and a lot of uncertain guesses, there is a practical equation to measure overunity: energy output / energy input. Practically (underline) you must consider the "box" or limits, boundaries of your device. A box containing a battery, a circuit with a resistance and a light bulb will measure, something like 7 watts per hour energy measured over time dissipated by the bulb, divided by the input energy of the battery; 10 watts per hour = 70% efficiency. You fit the lid with solar panels and connect its voltage output through the lid and in parallel to your circuit and... you get overunity! You can't tell if you only look INSIDE the box. Think outside the box. Forget free energy for a moment. Energy efficiency is the real test - practically (setting aside zero point theories). Solar panels are economically (underline) over unity devices, although you can measure the best current efficiency of photovoltaics at 22 - 23%, but you do not pay for solar energy input. Reclaiming back EMF otherwise grounded voltage, does show, time and again, overunity. A magnet pulling a piece of nickel or steel off the table is OVERUNITY. Potential energy at the final position divided by potential energy at the start shows mathematically a GAIN. I have reproduced several of these "devices". It is a grave mistake to discard them without trials, just with a prejudice first stipulated by the fathers of thermodynamics; Clausius (1850) and Thompson (lord Kevin). Right from the start, Clausius postulated that energy could only flow from hot to cold - proved wrong by the advent of the fridge. And lord Kevin circa late 1800's declined an invitation to join a newly formed aeroplane enthusiast club because he thought there is no future in heavier-than-air flight. Wow! The 16th century witnessed the church putting under house arrest Galileo Galilei for inferring the Jovian moons orbited Jupiter and not Earth. Wow! When I studied physics, we had NO education in any historical backgrounds to compare, and to learn from. It would open the door to progress a lot wider if we'd stop having history repeat itself, and some important and intelligent people keep closing the doors based on yesterday's dogmas and paradigms, being stuck in a box. I reproduced over 450 overunity carefully measured and documented tests. Still doubtful? www.cnbc.com/2022/12/13/nuclear-fusion-passes-major-milestone-net-energy.html Quote: "Reaching ignition means the fusion experiment produced more energy from fusion than the laser energy that used to drive the reaction... In the experiment on Dec. 5, about two megajoules (a unit of energy) went into the reaction and about three megajoules came out, said Marvin Adams, Deputy Administrator for Defense Programs at the National Nuclear Security Administration. A gain of 1.5." Cheers! Long live your wonderful, captivating, thought-proroguing channel Dr Mishlove!

thank you for an excellent interview with someone who appears to have the credentials to prove the device possible in theory at least. Getting a scaled up device capable of real world use would seem to require a billion interactive elements hooked up in tandem to achieve a useful output. With billions of transistors on a LSIC as a regular item these days, it seems scaling up is certainly possible adapting some of the current fab techniques for silicon chips. Good luck to your research.

I believe the key to acquiring access to ZPE is understanding Consciousness

Accessing “zero-point” for advanced propulsion is an amazing concept; but there is access to “perpetual free energy” systems through gravity and water for simple needs like electricity. This “physics” is built into our planet. We could/should have this type of electricity as long as the Planet is still rotating.

This is an incredible interview and idea. Surely, if this idea has merit, there is a way small investors could assist?

Very interesting, pray you are successful!!!

Found your channel today and subscribed.

Destabilise the matrix (magnetism) / pull energy from the ether / convert to usable energy. The understanding of this is unknown as advised but supposedly works....Some physicists/professors have witnessed/monitored and had checked unknown over-unity. Amazing how this info isn't taken to enhance electric cars output.

I was hoping Dr. Moddel would talk about any potential reliability issues with the lab scale devices he may have.

Did you try just with 33nm or you have been able to use other dimension for the casimir cavity. Because, if I remember correctly, force change with 1/d^4 ..... so, one should expect more energy scaling down. But this of course, could be difficult with limited resorces. So I wonder if, anyway, you have been try with different scale, even greater, for the casimir cavity.

Brilliant!

"Necessity is the mother of invention." The world needs clean energy technology more than happy scientists. If there are any millionaires or billionaires out there, here's your chance to make your grandchildren proud.

Excellent

I remember discussing harvesting zero point energy with Prof Tinkham back in 1985. We concluded as is ground energy there is no lower energy level so we can not transform energy to pump on it. Is just fourier transform of position velocity.

This is really cool thank you

Supposedly the UFO/UAP vehicles use zero-point energy according to some insiders and it would make sense because any highly advanced species could figure that out if they're warping around the universe stealthily at instantaneous velocities. I don't think any other energy system could sustain those capabilities at that scale like what these UAPs can do.

There’s always an energy exchange if that doesn’t appear to happen immediately it will be apparent down the line… Conscious ethical action requires this acknowledgment to go forward with the awareness that every intanglement will have resulting consequences.

A bit above my pay grade but I wonder if Zero Point Energy is somehow related to what some have described as the Zero Point Field described in pop-author Lynn McTaggart's book The Field. She describes the "zero point field" where information and memory resides. The MRI studies of Walter Schempp seemed to indicate each particle contains full memory of its history through a sort quantum holography. Opening the possibility of the Zero Point Field being the repository of the memory of all things. Sometimes called the Akashic Field. Zero Point Energy looks to me to be a mode of creation, the field , the virtual repository of creation. Sorry, but when he mentions entanglement and PSI....my pointy ears perked.

A water molecule is made of hydrogen and oxygen. This is the optimal fuel. The problem is the classical reaction splitting the water molecule is electrolysis reaction. This reaction requires more energy than the energy it produces. There is a quantum reaction that received a Nobel physics award that will split the water molecule. This is the ‘Negative refractive indexed meta materials’. These materials are synthetic materials that refract electromagnetic field through a thin film (atomic layer) in a left-handed rotation. This refracted electromagnetic field generates a blue shift, or a gain in energy. Natural materials refract the electromagnetic field in a right-handed reaction red shift, or loses energy. These materials will refract a weak infrared beam of photons to a water-splitting ultraviolet wavelength. There is research being done with solar panels where they using this technology to utilize this refracted infrared/ ultraviolet to generate electricity.

Always good points of discussion and time is prosperous will exclude or prove one’s self interest as to the all is nothing and is everything

Good to indulge in rational philosophy. Subscribed!!!

Would have liked to have heard Garret thoughts on the Safire documentary. For example, on the recent Why Files, they discuss the Electric-Universe theory that suggests the Sun's energy comes electrical discharges that flow from cosmic plasma (and not fusion). Montgomery Childs' Safire Reactor Project (Aureon) also aims to pull energy from the quantum vacuum.

Professor Moddel asks us to "look at the evidence," yet he provided none. A brief summary of the setup for his experiments on the Casimir / tunneling device, and a simple graph showing the results, would have been nice. I'm having trouble finding anything like consistent information about how much energy there is in a cubic meter.

This is a really good video, informative, & with good mindedness, so i listened twice ! Thanks a lot for it !!! It's so hopeful, &, 'YOW,' EXCEPTIONAL !!! ✨💜✨ :) (...except, the 'little white-coats,' of the Philosophy Dept., is finally-a-truism, for the worse, tho,' in pure-thinking, cases...(😂 Clarke's Novel, is, 'The Fountains Of Paradise,' ~(1980), the best novel, i ever read, short of his 'Childhood's End,' 😂, &, his autobio., 'The View From Serendip'.... &, of course, j.d.sallinger's 'Catcher In The Rye'...😂 Or, 'East of Eden,' if ya wanna get Serious, over an Author like Steinbeck...😂 Love: a CU-B, 1997-grad. 😂💜✨

In my opinion, Infinite Wave Theory explains this. The zero point field is the particle property of the gravity wave, with a wave length of up to 5 trillion light years. The wave action is the Dark Energy BTW. That particle property is the Dark Matter everyone can't seem to find:) I must say I am not impressed with cookie cutter science these days:)

I love this 🥂

I like this guy. I'm talking about both the interviewer and Dr. Moddel. This is a new channel for me. The interviewer is an odd guy, but a great interviewer nonetheless. I would really, really like to hear more from Dr. Moddel. Subscribed.

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You can use the Casimier force as many times as you want if you can generate the space between the plates for free!!!

Great interview. The professor might consider some form of crowdfunding to raise money for threshold experiments that answer potential large scale investor concerns/questions.

I would worry for this man’s safety with so many huge petroleum and energy companies with so much to loose. Love to see this technology spread around to hopefully help solve the global warming.

How about a standard anecoic chamber? Some of them are fridge sized and quite cheap. A previous employer of mine had a 3×3x2m3 one. That will give you an interference free environment. There are also electronics testing companies that have some. If you can put your setup on a few trolleys you could roll it into a friendly lab.

Fascinating. You seen the ted talk where the inventor invents the inventor?

❤❤❤garret is fabulous

So if we took a particle and extracted energy from it would it change the particle into something else like when you add or take away an electron from an atom. Maybe they don’t come in and out maybe they change properties and we can’t see it.

I am looking forward to seeing free energy across the globe! But, unless this technology Is completely open and open-sourced to the vast public, I fear the multi-trillion-dollar energy sector will not stand to be shut down and will come after this tech to squelch it! It happened to Tesla over a hundred years ago, and I’ve read this has happened many times since. If this becomes silenced behind ‘energy-friendly’ investors and their NDAs, it will never see the light of day! I do wish you ALL the best and success Garret!!

Giza and every stone structure on our environment! It's all a silicon photonic quantum system for our ship, I can read the language and I'm reading this With the stone carvings and paintings

Some feedback for Garrett - he needs to say how much he wants, and how the investment would be structured. I'm sitting here as a potential investor, but to be frank - he's so vague on this that it puts me right off even looking into it further.

Curious… garrett said “everything wiggles”, i presume this is only limited to time/space, correct? Because time being the measure of change needs to be measured against something stationary, otherwise we wouldnt be able to recognise time flowing without comparing it to something stationary?. Flowing river for example. If water flowed without a river bankc we wouldnt be able to recognise the direction or flow, it would be completely still would it not? Genuine question…😅