Can We Make It Run? Seized Rivarossi Blue Goose W/Bad Motor

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SMT Mainline

SMT Mainline

3 жыл бұрын

Can we make this seized Rivarossi Blue Goose steam locomotive run again? I got this locomotive as a gift a while back and after testing it discovered that it didn't run. I had no idea why it wasn't getting power until noticing it was missing a brush, this however turned out to be the least of the problem since the motor was seized and corroded. I ended up replacing it with a $4 Ebay and am impressed with the results.

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@garysprandel1817
@garysprandel1817 3 жыл бұрын
Dang Harrison you truly are the Angus Macgyver of model trains.
@frankishknight1878
@frankishknight1878 3 жыл бұрын
My Grandma bought that same locomotive for my brother in Italy back in 1976. What a splendid memory. You repaired this one with your magic! 😄 ✨
@awr1050
@awr1050 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful locomotive! Serenity indeed. I’m glad it’s running again, and I am glad you did it. Thanks for the content.
@toddbell1214
@toddbell1214 Жыл бұрын
My dad bought me the same Santa Fe “Blue Goose”locomotive when I was a kid. Brought back a ton of memories when I saw this video. Thank you.
@mikeilkenhons8896
@mikeilkenhons8896 3 жыл бұрын
Harrison... I just have smile and chuckle... you just never quit...somebody sends you a nightmare and you turn it into a Dream Machine... 🤓👍🇺🇸
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate that. Locomotives like these certainly present more of a challenge but it isn't dull.
@TrainsofChicagoland
@TrainsofChicagoland 3 жыл бұрын
Very Nice! Also let me make this quite clear: "Can we make it Run" With SMT, Anything is possible
@antonbruce1241
@antonbruce1241 3 жыл бұрын
@@BNbrett1376 Let's start calling him "The Train Whisperer"!!!! :)
@theunluckyy7244
@theunluckyy7244 3 жыл бұрын
@@BNbrett1376 i agreed
@markvittorini5163
@markvittorini5163 3 жыл бұрын
Still a nice repair and restoration and you used your experience with a prior engine to get this one going quicker! This is a great engine again!
@samuelbenge524
@samuelbenge524 2 жыл бұрын
"With God, all things are possible." - Jesus
@samuelbenge524
@samuelbenge524 Жыл бұрын
This is the very first video I watched from you! I'd love to see more streamliners in the future, like an N&W J, a Greenbrier J3-a, a PRR K4, etc
@HeavyTanker-vx4oq
@HeavyTanker-vx4oq 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh the Streamlined Hudsons. They inspired the N&W J-Class locomotives
@samuelbenge524
@samuelbenge524 Жыл бұрын
That's my favorite!!!
@Petemonster62
@Petemonster62 3 жыл бұрын
SMT - Since the motor was found to be rusty, I can't help but wonder if a previous owner had it on a basement layout that got flooded? It may not be a bad idea to inspect all the metal parts for signs of corrosion, when you disassemble the loco for lubrication. Then apply some WD40 and/or oil to those parts to arrest further corrosion.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
I suspect they were ether in a flood or exposed to high amounts of moisture. Especially considering how the other one had the exact same issue.
@adogeatingapieceofbread9335
@adogeatingapieceofbread9335 3 жыл бұрын
@@SMTMainline i once had a basement layout and one of my model trains got flooded
@Petemonster62
@Petemonster62 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidandrew477 - Yes, especially if the layout doesn't have any walls between it & the laundry area. If you have brass track, you are always cleaning off oxidation from the rails!
@kennethsooley9938
@kennethsooley9938 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive job! The question is never "Can we make it run?" but rather "How much MacGyvering will Harrison do before it runs?"
@gravesclayton3604
@gravesclayton3604 3 жыл бұрын
Very smart move to refit this with a more modern can motor! The 1st generation motors can be troublesome, as you have already discovered. You can use small diameter plastic or rubber tubing to join the motor shaft to the gearbox, something a lot of the older steam and diesel models did from the factory! A more flexible coupling there will make the slow speed running smoother, too. Nice work getting this vintage model back up and running! Cheers!
@randytaylor1258
@randytaylor1258 2 жыл бұрын
She's a pretty baby! Nice job!
@backbonepictures78
@backbonepictures78 2 ай бұрын
I love the Blue Goose, it’s such a great looking locomotive. Awesome job with the repairs!
@dinnerfromthediningcar1080
@dinnerfromthediningcar1080 3 жыл бұрын
So...those "cheepy Ebay motors" paid off after all, eh? And thanks to Harrison's ingenuity - "we've got a runner!!!"
@sort187
@sort187 3 жыл бұрын
I smile when I see a Blue Goose brought back to life. Well done, sir. Well done indeed.
@antonbruce1241
@antonbruce1241 3 жыл бұрын
Now aren't you glad you bought those motors on eBay??? What a replacement! That old motor was COMPLETELY SCREWED!!! Again...great job, Harrison!
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, so far they've proven to be quite useful.
@antonbruce1241
@antonbruce1241 3 жыл бұрын
@@SMTMainline Yea...you DEFINITELY got your money's worth on those motors!
@riondoesthings1988
@riondoesthings1988 3 жыл бұрын
Harrison you are the god of making trains run! I would never get this thing running, great work!
@samuelbenge524
@samuelbenge524 2 жыл бұрын
5:01 Macho Man: You are one million percent-- Correct!!!
@derekonxbox
@derekonxbox 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive work SMT, you brought the old girl back to life. And it runs amazingly well too!
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@denniskaylor2165
@denniskaylor2165 3 жыл бұрын
@@SMTMainline Do you know where I can get 2 pantographahs for a rivarossi gg1
@DowntownTrains
@DowntownTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Glad that you were finally able to fix it!, its a great looking train and a fine addition to your collection. Good Job!
@joegrazulis2810
@joegrazulis2810 2 жыл бұрын
This gives me hope. I have an old Rivarossi 2-8-8-2 that used to run great. The motor fried up and I have been meaning to replace it since. This gives me hope that it would be worth doing.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 2 жыл бұрын
I think you’ve got a good chance. I believe they sell 5 pole conversation kits on eBay specifically for Rivarossi locomotives and the motors will likely make the engine run better than it did before.
@angryrailfan5711
@angryrailfan5711 3 жыл бұрын
The long awaited repair of the Blue Goose
@jackrabbit2688
@jackrabbit2688 3 жыл бұрын
Glad that it runs. What an interesting loco. Great video SMT.
@DansGrandValley
@DansGrandValley 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! You’re a very talented guy and it’s fun to watch you fix things. Great job!
@Harrisonidk
@Harrisonidk 3 жыл бұрын
Nice this is one of my favorite Santa Fe locos they had back in the day
@harrisonlamore3438
@harrisonlamore3438 3 жыл бұрын
Nice train love the two tone blue and the metal rods going to the cab
@alberthofer679
@alberthofer679 3 жыл бұрын
Great job Harrison! You the man !
@cnwproductions
@cnwproductions 3 жыл бұрын
SMT, I was looking through the newest Model railroader magazine and I saw an add for your dads Pennsylvania ho scale 0-4-0 switcher in a life like train set from 1972 to the late 70s
@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan
@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan 3 жыл бұрын
What a beauty I can't wait to see it pulled those Santa Fe stainless steel passenger cars
@alcopower5710
@alcopower5710 3 жыл бұрын
Great job again Harrison. Instead of using a rail joiner next time try to find some heavy wall rubber or silicone tubing. That way it will give you a very slight amount of flex (which is good) but still transfer power from the motor. Always enjoyable watching your videos
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
That might be a good idea. I would have tried heat shrink tubing but I didn't have any on hand. No idea if it would told tight enough to work though. I will have to test out this stuff.
@alcopower5710
@alcopower5710 3 жыл бұрын
SMT Mainline ....it will work but the key is to find the right diameter tubing. It’s a friction fit so it must fit very tight. Maybe a bit of ca glue to help.
@Uptownloki47
@Uptownloki47 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the day I’ve been waiting for. Great job SMT! I look forward to seeing more work like this in the future. Instead of using a rail joiner for the replacement drive shaft you should try using fuel line tubing from RC cars. I’ve gotten good results with this tubing using it to replace the corroded driveshafts in my brass locomotives. Serenity!
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
I will have to try that. I was also thinking heat shrunk tubing might be a good option but I'm not sure if it would hold tight enough.
@Uptownloki47
@Uptownloki47 3 жыл бұрын
I think heat shrink tubing is used for wrapping electrical components, so it my not be the best for locomotive drive trains.
@normancoreyBuildingTrains
@normancoreyBuildingTrains 2 жыл бұрын
@@SMTMainline i used very small rubber hose like what they use on windshield wiper washers in cars some are really small i just experimented with putting a 3 $ motor from china 5 pole in my big boy high rpm and great torque is what it said and it was right its faster and has pulling power it sticks out back a bit i did not have to cut away any thing other than a bit of the slot motor sits on very little runs quiet and i used rubber for the drive shaft we will see how long the motor runs for
@randallellison6421
@randallellison6421 3 жыл бұрын
Great job! Looks like you got another good runner there Harrison!
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched all your videos in the last 9 months so whenever you post a new video it’s very exciting that I can watch more
@TheyAreReal69
@TheyAreReal69 3 жыл бұрын
Great job smt! Keep up the good work!
@laaeeh
@laaeeh 3 жыл бұрын
Noice restoration! Runs awesome!
@vabbit2973
@vabbit2973 3 жыл бұрын
This locomotive needs a whistle that goes honk!
@oredigger1060
@oredigger1060 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@Petemonster62
@Petemonster62 3 жыл бұрын
Steam locomotives & geese both hiss!
@WesternOregonRailfan
@WesternOregonRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the steam will make the HISSSSS!
@tjprptchable
@tjprptchable 3 жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful engin that now runs because of you SMT. Awsome video you went very creative on this one.
@jeffmorgan1229
@jeffmorgan1229 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always impressed with your ability to take apart these engines and put them back together and make them work. I have a Mantua- Tyco 1776 engine. I put it on my test track and ran it back and forth, it hasn't ran in quite a while. But I started to smell something in the engine. It's probably a quick fix for you, but does it just need oil or is it an engine problem. I figured that I would ask the expert in this matter. I always enjoy your recorded videos. But I'm sorry that I'm not able to catch any of your live streaming because of the random times that you make them. But time is usually a factor in that I don't have a lot of time for an hour or two video to watch. But I definitely enjoy your other videos. Keep up the great work that you do and the videos too. From Jeff.
@jeffmorgan1229
@jeffmorgan1229 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidandrew477 sorry I wasn't clear what type of engine it is. It's one of those Spirit of 76 type of Loco. I'll show a picture of it if I can. Well I checked and I can't find how to post a picture sorry.
@jeffmorgan1229
@jeffmorgan1229 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidandrew477 diesel
@jeffmorgan1229
@jeffmorgan1229 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidandrew477 thanks for all your input and knowledge. I will have to see what I can do next. Thanks again for your time on this matter.
@THEVICTROLAGUY
@THEVICTROLAGUY 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidandrew477 i guess not...
@oredigger1060
@oredigger1060 3 жыл бұрын
SMT Mainline i love your content and you inspired me to get into model railways thank you
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how happy it makes me to hear about people getting into this great hobby though my channel. I appreciate it.
@Metldragon
@Metldragon 3 жыл бұрын
Nice stuff! Always cool to see vintage gear run again. I used to have a couple of old HO scale locomotives that were pretty old. Both of them were old 4-4-0 american standards and had metal bodies. Not too sure who made them, but I wish I still had them to fix.
@stoystownpa
@stoystownpa 2 жыл бұрын
Great restoration
@jenniferanderson4654
@jenniferanderson4654 Жыл бұрын
I love that blue goose!!! 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊and I am glad that engine is running!
@highspeedboom
@highspeedboom 3 жыл бұрын
The motor you chose to buy from ebay will also work as a replacement for newer Red Box Rivarossi 4-6-4 Hudsons, with proper cleaning and lubricants it should have a good crawl too. Good job fixing it!
@222k3
@222k3 2 жыл бұрын
This is my absolute favorite of the lot!
@hollyevans2370
@hollyevans2370 3 жыл бұрын
It's a beautiful engine that fits almost any layout!
@HalfSpongeBob44
@HalfSpongeBob44 3 жыл бұрын
That is the most Beautiful loco I've ever seen
@FuzionHyperX
@FuzionHyperX 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this video 😁❤️
@leedempsey7731
@leedempsey7731 3 жыл бұрын
Love that model and the color
@samuelbenge524
@samuelbenge524 Жыл бұрын
Although it does not have its "Blue Goose" shroud, one remains today. Santa Fe #3463 is the sole survivor of the ATSF 3460 class locomotives. It is currently on static display at the Southeast Kansas Expocentre in Topeka, Kansas.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline Жыл бұрын
That's good to know.
@colbeausabre8842
@colbeausabre8842 2 жыл бұрын
The good ole' 0-5-0 pusher!
@oldcarsaverjones5124
@oldcarsaverjones5124 3 жыл бұрын
Great job on the motor transplant!! Love the Blue Goose engine! Let me know if you ever get a Blue Goose parts engine-need a cab roof for mine.
@RealFritoTV
@RealFritoTV 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for a motor swap. Great work! :D
@andrewferguson5653
@andrewferguson5653 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent work, SMT! You can make any model train run again!
@FeedScrn
@FeedScrn 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful linkage on the loco...
@gloriousleaderstalin6289
@gloriousleaderstalin6289 3 жыл бұрын
That's a nice locomotive.
@mercuryoak2
@mercuryoak2 3 жыл бұрын
I think I've seen these on ebay not many around. This blue goose looks to be built on a similar chassis idea as your grandmother's. Milwaukee Hiawatha. I'm glad to see any of these get running because then others who have same or similar issue then they have found a way to fix it. Go rivarrossi Go. Lol at 4:48 when you started laughing goimg oh no not again then you come in with the big hammer i was like oh no . no no no not that . I was like rest in peace 3 pole Rivarossi motor. Very good awesome fix at end. Also that chassis looks similar to the Mantua power drive with gearbox worm interesting.
@shaygetz52
@shaygetz52 3 жыл бұрын
I've wanted one of these since your parents were scooting on all fours in their Pampers...you're killing me.,
@shaygetz52
@shaygetz52 3 жыл бұрын
A good drive coupling can be made from model airplane engine fuel line...old timer's trick.
@tobyyoder8350
@tobyyoder8350 3 жыл бұрын
Also Santa Fe blue goose , with those super cheif f units and passenger cars behind it would look pretty good
@52SuperC
@52SuperC 3 жыл бұрын
Anything to keep those old locos running
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, whatever it takes.
@theupperillinoisrailfan5664
@theupperillinoisrailfan5664 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY! HE FINALLY MADE A VIDEO ON THIS!
@Graulas
@Graulas 3 жыл бұрын
its here
@WisconsinCentralProductions
@WisconsinCentralProductions 3 жыл бұрын
SMT Finally Got To The Blue Goose
@davidztog9011
@davidztog9011 3 жыл бұрын
The Blue Goose flies upon the rails again! Another fine repair, Harrison. No sense even attempting to clean that motor. Great that you made the ebay motor work. I'm sure the Blue Goose will be another most requested runner on your livestreams. Did you consider a piece of rubber tubing to use as a flexible shaft between the motor and drive wheels? Thanks for sharing. 👍 👍 👍
@chriselliott763
@chriselliott763 3 жыл бұрын
Great job mate, worth the wait. Have you considered using flexible silicon tubing to connect the drive shafts? It’s used for fuel lines on RC equipment. Well done.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard of people doing that but I haven't tried it myself. I will have to give it a go someday.
@jamesnulliner2390
@jamesnulliner2390 3 жыл бұрын
Yay the Blue Goose is running so you could have live stream with that locomotives now are you happy you got fixed
@trainboi
@trainboi 3 жыл бұрын
SMT is a railroad musem in HO
@myvideosetc.8271
@myvideosetc.8271 3 жыл бұрын
To join axles I use the spent ink plastic tube from BIC pens, but this one looks good too.
@nathanchan4653
@nathanchan4653 3 жыл бұрын
In 6:01 If Rivarossi (which is currently owned by Hornby Hobbies) re-released the US/continental HO locomotives, then this would be the upgrade of the motor and also more proper pick up contacts (a pair of pick ups on both sides of the wheels with isolators on the axle ends.
@davidwaterhouse1409
@davidwaterhouse1409 3 жыл бұрын
Blue goose doesn’t start 7 minutes later Magic We’ve got a runner boys
@ZillaJr2005
@ZillaJr2005 Ай бұрын
Sees the corrosion in the motor: “Aw shit…here we go again…”
@kennethweber1463
@kennethweber1463 2 жыл бұрын
Hi and congratulations on all the Loco made to run. Enjoyed your videos. do you take on any outside work as I have a Coca Cole die cast loco that need some looking at. It did run and stopped f or no good reason thank you
@warbabyproductions
@warbabyproductions 3 жыл бұрын
Smt you just made my day. And it’s just morning. I got a package of a boxcar cleaner coming in the mail today.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to hear that. I hope you enjoy your new boxcar cleaner.
@samuelbenge524
@samuelbenge524 Жыл бұрын
@@SMTMainline Where can I pickup a fiberglass pencil to clean my loco wheels?
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline Жыл бұрын
@@samuelbenge524 Fiberglass pencil: amzn.to/2VeB6CU (affiliate) USA
@northerncountryrailroad8939
@northerncountryrailroad8939 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@DowneastProductions211
@DowneastProductions211 3 жыл бұрын
Hi love the vid
@trainstorm1225
@trainstorm1225 3 жыл бұрын
Geese are so common in Canada that there’s even one in Harrison’s basement.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
This is an American one though. Mostly the Canadian kind up here.
@cameronchesterfield9387
@cameronchesterfield9387 3 жыл бұрын
impressive most impressive
@riderless9990
@riderless9990 3 жыл бұрын
Damn this guy could ask for any train and have 3 of them 😄
@barbaravecchio6654
@barbaravecchio6654 3 жыл бұрын
The 3460 was usually owned by the Santa Fe Railroad and was a rail fan favorite during its time until it was scrapped. I don’t know when but it was scrapped
@NicholassTrainChannel
@NicholassTrainChannel 3 жыл бұрын
it is a shame you couldn't use the original motor but good job fixing it.
@lynnmiller8919
@lynnmiller8919 3 жыл бұрын
Being loud is not a good sign for a Rivarossi engine, I noted years ago that Rivarossi engines were the quietest on the market. Sounded like a quartz watch.
@MMRails
@MMRails 3 жыл бұрын
When all else fails, bring out the hammer. Great job as always!
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever gets the job done I guess. That motor didn't look like it was going to run again anyways.
@williambruceboisjoli8455
@williambruceboisjoli8455 3 жыл бұрын
to hook up the motor to the drive use a small rubber tube, like the Athearn rubber band drive method
@EthanOnThePW
@EthanOnThePW 3 жыл бұрын
We need "Highway Through The Danger zone" to play whenever it moves.
@quentindail4663
@quentindail4663 Жыл бұрын
nice one
@spadesofpaintstudios1719
@spadesofpaintstudios1719 Жыл бұрын
I actually found this engine on eBay but it’s missing a tender 😂 so idk if I could even get it to run, also it’s 89$ so I don’t know if it’s a good idea to try and buy it over all. But at least I know if needed I could repair it by seeing what you did here.
@davidstrainsandlego
@davidstrainsandlego 3 жыл бұрын
"Smt mainline ,the time has come . Execute order sixty-fix "
@themadcoachman
@themadcoachman 3 жыл бұрын
Those cheap mothers you got sure are coming into there own , and Novel using a rail joiner to connect to the drive mechanism
@andrewdegenhardt6103
@andrewdegenhardt6103 Жыл бұрын
I have a blue goose also but in dcc and it has a lot of trouble running and everything is clean and won't move sometimes what do you suggest.
@rozeenajamil
@rozeenajamil 3 жыл бұрын
i have a question, do you prefer knuckle or hornhook couplers
@nightisright1873
@nightisright1873 3 жыл бұрын
That is a beautiful locomotive ! Do you think you’ll ever get more cars for the trains .
@dkendrick1916
@dkendrick1916 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a very strange looking goose
@BCrailguy45
@BCrailguy45 3 жыл бұрын
4:41 ahh @!$% here we go again
@theoldbayrailfan
@theoldbayrailfan 3 жыл бұрын
Cool
@callmebigpapa
@callmebigpapa 2 жыл бұрын
Would this be better with a flywheel motor?
@daylightguy
@daylightguy 3 жыл бұрын
Model aircraft gas line works pretty good.
@gs3504
@gs3504 3 жыл бұрын
New to the channel, have to ask. What's with "serenity"??
@2bigrailfans724
@2bigrailfans724 3 жыл бұрын
Nice repair job! That's a sweet engine! Do you have a break-in process of choice for your DC motors?
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
I don't really do much of a break in other then letting in run for a while to help seat the brushes.
@2bigrailfans724
@2bigrailfans724 3 жыл бұрын
@@SMTMainline Give this a whirl maybe. Try it on a new cheapie first. Hook it to power then let it run submerged in a bowl or glass of water for about 20 minutes. I know it sounds weird but it works. After it runs the water will be covered in a layer of what looks like black soot. Rinse the motor clean then let it air dry, then apply a nice thin layer of lube. they'll run smoother and cooler and last longer! I used to do it when I built 5 inch racing slot cars.
@jballard3253
@jballard3253 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried submerging the motor in white vinegar and let it soak a couple of days or so to dissolve the rust?? It might work.
@GSMRFan
@GSMRFan 3 жыл бұрын
What did you use for a drive shaft?
@crudecaboose8382
@crudecaboose8382 3 жыл бұрын
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