Can We Make This 1956 Revell Union Pacific Run Again?

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2 жыл бұрын

This was one of the more exciting items in a lot of ho scale locomotives I purchased in a lot a few months ago. It's a Union Pacific diesel switcher made by Revell in 1956. The drive on this model has a motor similar to an Athearn of the same era however uses a band driven design to put power to the wheels. I haven't worked on something like this before so it was exciting to examine a bit different.

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@dutchman2414
@dutchman2414 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching a young person work and with so much knowledge also not afraid to tackle any engine
@myvideosetc.8271
@myvideosetc.8271 2 жыл бұрын
You are not only a railway fan anymore. You are a museum curator.
@papawoody9597
@papawoody9597 2 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of older locos, rolling stock, buildings etc. and I always wonder what their story is. How many hands have they passed through, were they played with by kids and their dads or grandpas, were they passed down? There's something really satisfying about seeing a locomotive that was shiny and new once upon a time, then left to sit for who knows how long, being brought back to life.
@monsterford8009
@monsterford8009 Жыл бұрын
Thats why i only buy used stuff because of the curiosity
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline Жыл бұрын
@@monsterford8009 Exactly, it's always exciting to open this stuff up and find work done many years ago by someone else and you can kinda imagine what might have happened with it.
@exlimey1417
@exlimey1417 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the 80s when I was a kid I had a friend with braces. The small rubber bands he was given for them were perfect for traction tires. He used to get small bags of about 50 from his orthodontist all the time.
@nathankeske5697
@nathankeske5697 2 жыл бұрын
Dank I hope I have mine still now that I know this lol
@Weeethunder
@Weeethunder 2 жыл бұрын
Thats smart!
@trainzguy2472
@trainzguy2472 2 жыл бұрын
I still have a whole stack of bags from when I had teeth issues (not braces but another complicated thing)! Mine didn't fit as traction tires (I use a special product called Bullfrog Snot for that) but they work well as belts for belt drives! Fixed my Athearn rubber band RDCs for cheap that way.
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
harrison- stop being so cheap and invest in a bottle of bullfrog snot
@monsterford8009
@monsterford8009 Жыл бұрын
Facts just go into a dental office and buy them
@Greatdome99
@Greatdome99 2 жыл бұрын
The do-dad between the motor and pully is not a flyweight (I think you meant 'flywheel')--it's a centrifugal clutch. At slow speeds, the clutch slips just like a car does--at higher speeds the clutch gradually locks up. This was meant to provide smoother starts.
@thehallfamilylightshow
@thehallfamilylightshow 2 жыл бұрын
"Look at it Here folks, we've got a runner"
@randallellison6421
@randallellison6421 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool little switcher Harrison, nice restoration!
@dallasgibson7578
@dallasgibson7578 2 жыл бұрын
You can always add washers under the motor to raise it up to add tension on the band
@WH32R
@WH32R Жыл бұрын
I found that dental rubber bands (the ones for braces) work best as replacement belts
@brianbenson1973
@brianbenson1973 2 жыл бұрын
Serenity!! Awesome Harrison, Another cool vintage HO Restoration!! 😎
@Michael_2211
@Michael_2211 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting locomotive
@crsrdash-840b5
@crsrdash-840b5 2 жыл бұрын
Its a SW1200. According to drawings I have, it has access doors along its hood. The SW7 has a missing door toward the front on both sides.
@Greatdome99
@Greatdome99 2 жыл бұрын
EMD introduced SW1200s in 1966, well after Revell left the market. The arched cab windows show this to be an NW2.
@AussieGunzel
@AussieGunzel 2 жыл бұрын
Thought revell only did kits, interesting to see them made locomotives that function.
@monkeymanthesecond2222
@monkeymanthesecond2222 2 жыл бұрын
function what what are you taking about
@Greatdome99
@Greatdome99 2 жыл бұрын
Revell made an entire line of model railroad equipment (1956-1961) including from locos, cars to structures. Check out eBay.
@beefs0ck911
@beefs0ck911 2 жыл бұрын
Paints too bro
@timothycoffer4193
@timothycoffer4193 2 жыл бұрын
Goodjobawsom
@TheInterubranMan23
@TheInterubranMan23 2 жыл бұрын
Revell make trains as well I use remember buying their truck kit
@davidsheriff8989
@davidsheriff8989 2 жыл бұрын
Hats off for your patience...
@MattKonsol
@MattKonsol 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool locomotive
@bnsfrailroadomaha1042
@bnsfrailroadomaha1042 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome love the rebuilds
@cricket9095
@cricket9095 2 жыл бұрын
Another replacement for traction tires is taking dentist rubber bands that are used when you have braces. There small and fits all my locos great.
@rj29productions
@rj29productions 2 жыл бұрын
I use them,they work very well
@davidztog9011
@davidztog9011 2 жыл бұрын
I suggested that many moons ago. Chipmunk elastics for braces as a matter of choice. 👍
@ThePeejRR
@ThePeejRR 2 жыл бұрын
CVS brand hair rubberbands will do the trick also. Though they don't last as long. Rubberband drives and traction tires were horrible ideas for model locomotives.
@Weeethunder
@Weeethunder 2 жыл бұрын
Smart!
@engineerpat5290
@engineerpat5290 2 жыл бұрын
Super fix!! Love it bro!
@johnpainter7343
@johnpainter7343 4 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed watching the video. I just bought the same one/ 1956 Atlanta Cost Line. The Orings I hope will fix mine.
@rj29productions
@rj29productions 2 жыл бұрын
For band drive engines, I use the clear rubbery plastic hair ties, they have less tension than the orings, but are the perfect size for lionel ho, revell and athearn band drive
@garysprandel1817
@garysprandel1817 2 жыл бұрын
Was going to say 1950s as there seemed to be a brownish red cast to that plate under the truck indicating it's bakelite
@likeke.benoyt
@likeke.benoyt 3 ай бұрын
It has the same drivetrain and motor as my Revell Santa Fe blue and yellow from the same era. It ran like a champ in its day.
@Santaanacanyon
@Santaanacanyon 2 жыл бұрын
Its running better now than when it was new.
@davidv.3135
@davidv.3135 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content!
@colbeausabre8842
@colbeausabre8842 2 жыл бұрын
It's an NW2 - the heavy (1000 HP) switcher in EMD's 1939 line remaining on offer until 1949 when the SW7 replaced it. The NW2 has a half height nose grill, while the SW7's grill is full height
@jamesschultz7550
@jamesschultz7550 2 жыл бұрын
Great Job on the loco. I thought like you more middle of the 60s. Stay safe up there, and keep having fun.
@dbtech7914
@dbtech7914 2 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting motor. Good job!
@kevinb9327
@kevinb9327 2 жыл бұрын
👍 Amazing! You didn't just repair it, you resurrected it!
@parkerfougere8378
@parkerfougere8378 2 жыл бұрын
I always liked switchers. Great vid
@THR33STEP
@THR33STEP Жыл бұрын
I had the same type Revell engine when I was a kid. Mine ran incredible! I had it pull 48 cars! The engine was a beast but I can’t remember if it was only 4 wheel drive.
@trainboi
@trainboi 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was going to be another 0-4-0 diesel again
@jeffsikes5312
@jeffsikes5312 2 жыл бұрын
i would have paid 5 bucks for it at a show i have about 7 of those and yes they are from 1956 and yes there finaky but with a few mods all run great !!!.
@mikedurhan9941
@mikedurhan9941 2 жыл бұрын
I much enjoyed this video and your efforts to get that old NW2 going. I had one of the same vintage which I purchased new about 1957 in Atlantic Coast Line colors. It was #3570, which as you might expect, was totally wrong - an ACL NW2 would have been something in the #600 range. Revell called them SW7's, but the arched front windows in the cab and the tool box on the front platform suggest NW2. Anyway, it was my favorite locomotive. But, it stalled a lot and eventually drove me from the hobby in frustration. I didn't come back until Stewart/Kato F's, Atlas/Kato GP7's and Con-Cor/Kato MP15's came out. Those were the first really good operating locomotives I encountered in HO. I came back to the hobby at that time. Thanks for a really good and educational video. Much appreciated.
@stefantrainspotter
@stefantrainspotter 2 жыл бұрын
Revell makes building kits. I never thought that they build this loco
@idkguy1016
@idkguy1016 2 жыл бұрын
“Because these wheels look like crap”, Gotta be the best call for fixing a train.
@kge420
@kge420 2 жыл бұрын
Had that same engine as a kid. Came as a set.
@markvittorini5163
@markvittorini5163 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't traction wheel bands flat and not round like o-rings?
@richardwarren7492
@richardwarren7492 Жыл бұрын
That engine is from the 50's and I'd bet it is from 1956. Why would I think that? My dad worked at Revell in the art department, he did bot box cover art and instruction sheets. In 1956 I got my first train set, from dad, Revell. Same switcher engine only - AtlanticCoast live livery. One thing I found was if you lose the headlight it won't run. I had it for a lot of years. I also had a ton of the rubber parts. Dad brought them home after they had found with heavy use they would need to be replaced. Something els was the wheels had to be SUPER clean and the rubbers that went on the wheels worked better if they were ruoghed up a bit. Thanks, nice vid.
@kevinmills8437
@kevinmills8437 2 жыл бұрын
I Love That Engine.
@modelrailroader5619
@modelrailroader5619 2 жыл бұрын
I like that engine! Great job…👍btw, I was born in 1956, fabulous vintage 😁
@davidztog9011
@davidztog9011 2 жыл бұрын
With any luck, it'll run. Of course it will once you tear into it, Harrison. Time to hit the dollar store again for a variety pack of o-rings. Also try the Big Box hardware stores for the green, red or yellow o-rings. They have different properties and purposes. Square cut o-rings are also available which would be best. As others have mentioned, as well as me awhile back, braces elastics work too. Thanks for sharing. 👍👍👍
@saadqureshi7993
@saadqureshi7993 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this video for so long that I forgot the video existed
@jimsrenaski7118
@jimsrenaski7118 2 жыл бұрын
Also, be advised that the length of the drive belt is critical. If it's too short, you'll get a herky jerky running. If it's too long you get slippage.
@je2383
@je2383 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video; I'm working on the same model from my father's layout - except his is in B&O livery. It gets power so I'm hoping I can get it back into running condition.
@tinytowntrainstv
@tinytowntrainstv 2 жыл бұрын
Good cheap fix! Well done! Thanks. T4
@cpcnmodelrailroadingrailfa9339
@cpcnmodelrailroadingrailfa9339 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video :)
@haroldalexis4200
@haroldalexis4200 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this was a stubborn one to repair in some ways this engine reminded me a little like RSO, with a small touch of earlier ATHEARN type drive. This was a rarity to see a REVELL locomotives in HO scale. Every effort & expertise went into this repair from this vintage diesels past. Another as i am reading other comments would have been replacement wheels from N.W.S.L. or replacement drive but as long as the motor works that's another story. As long as your happy with it that's what counts. Good job Harrison.
@dansmodelrailways7886
@dansmodelrailways7886 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, great rebuild. I’ve not long uploaded a rebuild video to my channel inspires by your own. You even get a mention! Keep up the good work.
@sergioarroyoguerrero5434
@sergioarroyoguerrero5434 3 ай бұрын
Nice locomotive Union Pacific in HO scale. SW1200. Switcher locomotive.
@goldenplainsrailroadedits
@goldenplainsrailroadedits 2 жыл бұрын
Hey nice I have an engine like that
@antonbruce1241
@antonbruce1241 2 жыл бұрын
No loco can stand up against the Harrison touch. They may TRY, but in the end they succumb to Harrison's skills. And if that loco is from 1956....it's older than I am by more than a year!!!
@johnrobertfox7775
@johnrobertfox7775 Жыл бұрын
HELLO DARE HARRISON ! LOOKS LIKE IF YOU CAN'T GET IT TO RUN OR FIND THE PARTS , GET AN ATHEARN POWERED CHASSIS ! 😎
@Istoeumapemba
@Istoeumapemba 10 ай бұрын
It's outraging how I miss these opportunities to adquire locos and rolling stock for cheap because I live in Brazil and the "cheapness" of the products offered turns out to smoke due to the shipping costs. The prices with the shipping taxes skyrocket absurdly. You're lucky, living in Canada.
@dallasgibson7578
@dallasgibson7578 2 жыл бұрын
Also be careful oiling bearings on power pickup wheelsets some oils will block flow of electricity
@FrogFood8587
@FrogFood8587 8 ай бұрын
I have a similar one (that’s probably a bit newer) from my great grandfather that is a total hack job. It has clearly seen many decades of jerry-rigging. Hoping to crack into it soon and see if I can fix it up, wish me luck!
@Barb5001
@Barb5001 2 жыл бұрын
One point... With any band drive, for anything, you must make sure the band and what is rides on is comply clean and free of any oil
@williamsantangelo
@williamsantangelo 2 жыл бұрын
Revel HO is most remarkable I collect them run them and enjoy them very much!!! I might add they also offered N gauge every manufacturer in the late 50's jumped on the HO band wagon lol Harrison that disc and round housing is actually a clutch on the motor shaft!!!!
@kingofthepod5169
@kingofthepod5169 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know revell made model trains, model cars yeah dad used their parts on my pinewood derbies.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 2 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge they had four different powered locomotives.
@peterkneissl3358
@peterkneissl3358 2 жыл бұрын
The. Revell locos ad vertices a clutch drive that's the item coupling the motor to the shaft
@CR7659
@CR7659 2 жыл бұрын
I think I said before, but I believe this is the early version of the drive. Later ones have a plastic frame and a drive similar to Marx or other engines where the motor sits on one truck. There actually is a third version of these. Con-Cor inherited this tooling and they sold a version in the 1980s which uses a Kato drive. I have 2 or 3 of the Revell 0-6-0T steam engine which has a similar motor and I remember opening one to see what was wrong and a whole plate fell off the commutator. I think it's still apart in a box somewhere.
@Stormshadowlover
@Stormshadowlover 2 жыл бұрын
I love you and your videos
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Trains-With-Shane
@Trains-With-Shane 2 жыл бұрын
I've got quite a few old HO scale locomotives that i've picked up here and there but I have yet to get one with a band drive. I think the oldest that I have is a steel flywheel Athearn, Although i've got some old AHM's that may be as old they have motors mounted directly on the trucks pointed down.
@MygrandpasTrain
@MygrandpasTrain 2 жыл бұрын
My Athearn band drive engines have a different motor design. The shaft in yours is long out the back side, looks like it could have optional all wheel drive. The band drive and gears in the power truck looks a lot like a Lionel HO engine that I have, although mine was made much later because it has all plastic gears. If that engine was made in the 60's it likely would have been plastic gears too.
@hungrymoose7627
@hungrymoose7627 Жыл бұрын
Man, I was so excited to find a video from you working on one of these as I have a 1957 one that runs but badly. Its a little disappointing to find that the conclusion is, they just kinda suck. But worst case scenario it will make a good heavy dummy loco.
@mercuryoak2
@mercuryoak2 2 жыл бұрын
What a unique locomotive. Good job getting it running when I see the name Revell I think of the car model company I think they're the same company if I'm not wrong I don't know but sounds like it. It's a unique drive system in there I don't think that it would pull that much given that it only has four driving wheels. I've heard that you can use liquid electrical tape for Traction tires which I don't advise cuz it doesn't work that good another thing that I've heard used is bullfrog snot myself I take and went to the Dollar Tree and got hair ties elastics really small ones there multiple colors but they also work quite well.
@joallawestervelt6918
@joallawestervelt6918 2 жыл бұрын
That is cool. And the Harrison magic touch makes it run. Love watching your repair videos. Thanks for sharing. Oh I found the video I asked you about and found the locomotive on Amazon for $68 US. I also found on eBay a Walthers Trainline Spokane Portland & Seattle Alco FA-1 #858 Used RTR and the owner sold it to me for $51 US + $15 shipping. The seller has a 99.8% rating I hope it was a good deal. I don't know what Alco FA-1 #858 and RTR means. Perhaps you or someone can explain it to me please. I hope to receive it on the 14th. So hopefully I will know by then as it is, as I explained before, a birthday gift for my brother-in-law who is upsizing from N Scale to HO Scale. I bought this locomotive because they moved here (Arizona) from Tacoma, WA and I thought he would appreciate the train line.
@eddielane9569
@eddielane9569 2 жыл бұрын
I would clean and polish the wheels that way you get a better connection and I would remove the motor and look and see how much is left on the contacts. I would also polish the copper on the Armature that way you get a really good connection.
@markcopeland4344
@markcopeland4344 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember right those came in kit form.
@canadianbehaviour8280
@canadianbehaviour8280 2 жыл бұрын
Mint
@charlesbard2331
@charlesbard2331 2 жыл бұрын
A rule of thumb never put the body back on until you sure to chassis is working correctly that way it prevents wear of the BOK part of the body being taken off and putting back on again
@charlesbard2331
@charlesbard2331 2 жыл бұрын
My comment did not come out correctly I meant to say never put the body back on until you're sure the system is running correctly...
@jmcfarlandjr
@jmcfarlandjr 2 жыл бұрын
Just needed a little coaxing.
@roybal1975
@roybal1975 Жыл бұрын
you should have cleaned the other 2 wheels on the backend of the engine think McFly think!
@fsrailworks7679
@fsrailworks7679 2 жыл бұрын
Comon man I told yea these had a weird drive and that they used a centrifugal clutch, still don't know why they did that. Also don't use O-rings, buy a pack of heat shrink tubing and just cut yourself rings the right width than heat em up and watch it shrink around the wheel for a perfect replacement fit and because the heat shrink tubing is flat it will work better than those O-rings. As for the belt itself mine was also no good, fortunately I have a large collection of belts and you need one just the right size otherwise the motor will over heat from too much current, Mine draws about 800 to 900mA. That "flywheel" as you called it IS your clutch and it appears to not be working, probably stuck do to age.
@markphillips6154
@markphillips6154 2 жыл бұрын
Just getting a little grease on the main rubber band cause it’s a slip a little bit
@Jethawk-ii7yg
@Jethawk-ii7yg 2 жыл бұрын
that train is an mp15-dc my fav train
@willarddevoe5893
@willarddevoe5893 2 жыл бұрын
Please visit HFF movie: The Station Agent. Note the toy shop in the very beginning of the movie.
@Kobe13111
@Kobe13111 2 жыл бұрын
When are you gonna live stream again
@janinesSewingRoom
@janinesSewingRoom 2 жыл бұрын
Hey SMT! a quick question I can’t find any cheap lots or locos there all like 20,10,6,100,200, Plus the really really really expensive shipping so can you tell me what to search up? also there’s another union pacific big boy on eBay for 100 bucks and it’s similar to the other one you have!
@hondachopper6978
@hondachopper6978 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, trains of my yute.
@johnblair8146
@johnblair8146 Жыл бұрын
The spaces in a commutator are called SLOTS, not gaps.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline Жыл бұрын
Tomato tomahto
@brandonharristsw7516
@brandonharristsw7516 2 жыл бұрын
I saw that kinda engine before but a different color
@jimsrenaski7118
@jimsrenaski7118 2 жыл бұрын
What were you thinking of? Since the traction tires were all rotten, Why wouldn't the drive belt also be rotted. Sometimes I can't follow your thinking.
@hmhobbies
@hmhobbies 2 жыл бұрын
served all the west, until SMT saved it
@JesusGarcia-ch9gl
@JesusGarcia-ch9gl 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question what day y'all going to fix the Pennsylvania railroad 2-10-0 or use the southern Pacific #99 0-4-0 in a live stream
@MMRails
@MMRails 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq is acting up. They’re showing re-runs. I’ve seen this before. Young male acquires a broken loco, then young male fixes loco. Still entertaining though!
@ZombieSlayer-dj3wb
@ZombieSlayer-dj3wb 2 жыл бұрын
So could it be possible to make a slug powered by the gears of its trucks ?
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean try to add a motor directly to the trucks and remove the cab?
@ZombieSlayer-dj3wb
@ZombieSlayer-dj3wb 2 жыл бұрын
Or crammimg it full of weight with free rolling wheels work to ?
@mr.shadestrains6033
@mr.shadestrains6033 2 жыл бұрын
6️⃣0️⃣3️⃣🚂😎👍. Very kool 🚂
@thebachboyimtoolazytoedit2825
@thebachboyimtoolazytoedit2825 2 жыл бұрын
You can almost be able to fix any afternoon because I want you to Quakertown fair in the magnets disappeared and meaning they didn't disintegrate I had the I had bought one that the whole Motors integrated magnets over driveshaft disintegrated to nothing but pretty much almost that thing you can fix it if the motor is attacked it's fixable
@cnwproductions
@cnwproductions 2 жыл бұрын
ive seen so many of those damn things in the past 5 yrs
@EMD_F59PHI
@EMD_F59PHI 2 жыл бұрын
*I Have this in O Scale, I think it's an SW 8 IDK Wut it is. Also, IDK which is better: N Scale HO Scale O Scale or Live Steamer Gauge (Forgot) *Vintage is The New UwU (To Me) :3*
@tractorrailfan_1
@tractorrailfan_1 5 ай бұрын
Looks like an old sw8
@garysatin9324
@garysatin9324 11 ай бұрын
Hello what type grease do you use.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 2 ай бұрын
Labelle 106
@josephkissee
@josephkissee 2 жыл бұрын
I have one that is a 1957 that is the purple Atlantic coast
@tednouver9909
@tednouver9909 2 жыл бұрын
put in earbuds and turn your PC vol. up to 100 and you got SMT ASMR
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 2 жыл бұрын
At 100vol xD
@juansilveti9336
@juansilveti9336 2 жыл бұрын
linda locomotora cuanto cuesta una locomotora
@Gravity461
@Gravity461 2 жыл бұрын
Hello smt
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 2 жыл бұрын
Hi
@richardnelson-ux1zz
@richardnelson-ux1zz 9 ай бұрын
Did athern buy revell
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 ай бұрын
Maybe so, they sure look alike.
@Dezzybabe548
@Dezzybabe548 3 ай бұрын
Follow the damntraincj
@shockstrains5077
@shockstrains5077 2 жыл бұрын
revell has some weird stuff
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 2 жыл бұрын
They weren't into building locomotives a whole lot so it isn't shocking that their designs were less refined.
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