Can You Beat Persona 5 Royal Using Only Gun Damage? (Attempt 1: The Prequel)

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RagnarAlvarrGaming

RagnarAlvarrGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Watch the second attempt of this challenge here: • Can You Beat Persona 5...
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We're going back to the SMT franchise with the next challenge run as we try to beat Persona 5 Royal using Guns Only.
Unfortunately didn't went as well as I was hoping for but just find out for yourself :)
I hope you get to enjoy the run as much as I did!
#persona #p5r #challengerun

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@BluShiGuy
@BluShiGuy Жыл бұрын
He wields a GUN Also fun fact: if you manage to get a third persona before saving ann you wont have to get rid of Arsene
@FFloof
@FFloof Жыл бұрын
they changed this in royal sadly ;-; they make you use Arsene for the first fusion
@exostudios8563
@exostudios8563 Жыл бұрын
@@FFloof No they don't. If you go to the room with three shadows, then back track to the room you get pixie without opening the door towards the next safe room, it will respawn the shadows. You can get Bicorn, Jack-O-Latern, and Mandrake before Ann's Awakening. Fusing Jack-O-Latern and Pixie will is a possible fusion of Incubus at Level 5.
@arashimyboi
@arashimyboi 10 ай бұрын
@@FFloofNope, when going back to Kamoshidas palace right before getting Ann’s awakening, you can run into multiple shadows and getting them to where they are both knocked allows for you to obtain them. Then, you can fuse pixie with that one instead of Arsene
@Elukito1
@Elukito1 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@FFloofno. you can get a bicorn during the swapping persona introduction from arsene to pixie then knock down both bicorn. if said correctly, you can get bicorn. it is also possible to get mandrake and jack-o-lantern but mandrake is almost impossible since you don't have fire skills at the point you are in the game. jack o lantern is weak to wind, so you can use morgana to hit garu on him, then say the correct dialogue and recruit him.
@Soloesecutore
@Soloesecutore Жыл бұрын
Enemy: asleep Me: *uses ability Enemy: *blocks Also me: what the heck
@CodyHeldreth
@CodyHeldreth Жыл бұрын
I actually did this same challenge a few months ago and I have a possible loophole to keep in mind: If we're allowing the use of gun focused showtime attacks than wouldn't it be reasonable to use items that are technically "guns"? Say for instance the Stun Gun: Yeah, it doesn't do gun damage, but it is by definition classified as a "gun" along with the Air Cannon, if one were to say revise the name of the challenge to "Guns" (the quotations being used in the title), then the Stun Gun and Air Cannon would technically fall within those parameters. You can craft these two items as early as the first palace I think after securing the infiltration route which gives you time to craft them before mandatory fights against gun immune enemies. Materials can be gathered from certain enemies in mementos as well as bought in limited amounts per week as certain shops. So yeah, with the current rules it's mot doable. But if you allow the use of items with "gun" in the name, since you're allowing showtime attacks that do almighty damage so long as the attack comes from a "gun" it should be valid right? Also, heads up if you do retry the challenge with this in mind: Shinya's final ability only affects Joker, and only for his actual gun, meaning that gun attacks from your persona will still be blocked by gun immune enemies, and it'll be useless later in the game anyway since bosses have so much health that even with buffs/debuffs your gun wouldn't do enough damage before running out of ammo. Finally, I recommend completing Caroline and Justine's confidant since the last persona you need to create can be turned into an item which, when equipped to one of your allies, gives them a gun attack on their persona. I usually achieve this near the end of the 4th palace, allowing at least two other allies to use gun attacks with me (I only recommend making two since Haru joins the party next palace), combine that with buffs and debuffs for everyone just destroys cognitive Wakaba faster than the game can register (It also helps she's the only boss with a weakness to guns.) Give Ryuji and Yusuke these items and their high strength stat will be applied for the gun attacks, the 4th party member can focus on healing/buffing. I did this challenge on Normal, but if you allow the use of the craft able stun guns/air cannons as well as the items you can get from Seth in the Velvet Room, you'd have a much more doable challenge (If you follow this, I recommend making as many stun guns as possible since they're easier to make, increase your proficiency, and can actually stun enemies when used.)
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming Жыл бұрын
Technically you're right, if we're allowing gun based showtimes I don't see any reason not to use "gun" items. Never even really thought about that because initially I assumed showtimes can be triggered regularly during boss fights as well. The other stuff you said I actually had in mind too but since I never even got that far, its not really mentioned in the video either. I might come back to this in the future and give it another shot!
@novagears3604
@novagears3604 Жыл бұрын
@@RagnarAlvarrGaming are you still thinking about getting back into this? I think it would be really interesting if these rules were added, I did this run with some things for convenience (being allowed ailment items and skills) and it wasn’t too hard, especially in endgame- however it’s still fun and I would love to see your take on it. (My last persona was a very, very buff trumpeter [my favorite persona] with Riot gun, debilitate, gun boost and amp, Enduring soul, Apt pupil, invigorate 3, and Firm stance- I really couldn’t die. And along with this I made a shiki-ouji that had null fire, null ice, null wind, null electric, null psychic, drain nuclear, charge, and heat riser, both of their stats are maxed out because of gallows- so I realistically couldn’t die. It was fun for me trying to get around roadblocks (rangda) and overall very cool run.
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming Жыл бұрын
@@novagears3604 it is on my list as the next run pretty much, once i am done uploading my new video i will tackle this once again - hopefully this time with a better result! :D
@dragonarchive7443
@dragonarchive7443 Жыл бұрын
@@RagnarAlvarrGaming Good luck! This is one of my favorite challenge runs I've seen, so I'm rooting for a success
@NitsuaGamer
@NitsuaGamer 2 жыл бұрын
Well done buddy! I'm not gonna lie I've kind of thought of doing a gun only run similar to this myself. But then decided to torture myself with the doing nothing run. Honestly I was not expecting the nullifications so soon and thought this might have been possible, especially with Shinya's max rank perk later in the game.
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I thought the showtime workaround gave me enough options to get through with it but the game one upped me and said nope. Was worth a try at least!
@NitsuaGamer
@NitsuaGamer 2 жыл бұрын
Although looking at the wiki, Kaneshiro apparently can use zionga. I don't know if he actually does because from what I remember, he only uses lullaby, almighty, and snap. But if he uses electric, you could theoretically repel his electric when (or even if) this happens. Unless the wiki is wrong.
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Kaneshiro uses Zionga if one of the bodyguards inflicts Forget with this attack, although that rarely ever happens. Also once you push him past a certain HP threshold he will start spamming Make it Rain until he is out of money at which point the bodyguards will automatically disappear anyways so I am not sure that Electricity Repel cheese would even be possible. Not even talking about how I did ban repel cheesing in the rules to begin with :D
@DarkFrozenDepths
@DarkFrozenDepths Жыл бұрын
For his neutral special, he wields a GUN
@ConnortheGonnor
@ConnortheGonnor 2 жыл бұрын
2:35 you can grind at the first safe room by saving and reloding to respawn the shadows. Edit: It still isn't possible for a long time of grinding. Also I dont know if gun is affected by your strength stat. But Arsen learns dream needle which makes it possible to beat eliegor.
@JackBenci
@JackBenci Жыл бұрын
I may have one suggestion if you ever get back to this. Showtime chance to occur is heavily influenced by Jokers HP. If you can get Endure to trigger, showtimes should immediately come up. That would be one way to confirm for certain if they aren't possible in that boss. At any rate, a fantastic attempt!
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming Жыл бұрын
Endure is an interesting idea, i did get their HP lowered to single digits sometimes but maybe this helps. I am going to do this attempt again as my next run once I finish editing my current video with also allowing "gun" items so thats definitely another good option to have in mind!
@ClickPointXX
@ClickPointXX 2 жыл бұрын
Im not sure if you tried this but if you did you didn’t mention it in the video so I’ll mention it anyway. Another way to trigger a showtime is if joker gets to really low health, it triggers as like a last resort type thing. I’m not 100% sure it works on boss fights but considering that’s where Joker’s hp is most likely to get the lowest I’d like to think it does.
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I did not specifically mention Joker but I did try it with all party members (Joker included) and unfortunately the result was still the same. Unless I did something terribly wrong it seems like the only working trigger on boss fights is indeed the finishing blow once the boss gets into low HP range.
@masterblaster38
@masterblaster38 Жыл бұрын
Yeah showtimes trigger strangely... At least by what the wiki says, It can trigger when: A party member obtains a Baton Pass, loses 50% of their health or lower, faints recovers from a status ailment, Down, or being knocked out, the protagonist is dying or Downed An enemy is Downed or critically injured and rarely, an enemy is afflicted with a status, a defense debuff, or a party member has an attack buff. It is strange that actually no one said anything about this checks working or not in boss battles. However this was actually fun to watch.
@kcmtmm5326
@kcmtmm5326 2 жыл бұрын
i was thinking about doing this challenge in my own time but i might just save myself the trouble and watch this video, might even subscribe
@Userdoesnotexist.0138
@Userdoesnotexist.0138 Жыл бұрын
Aww man I wanted to see how okumuras palace would be💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@RPGchallengeruns
@RPGchallengeruns Жыл бұрын
I got stuck in the exact same place when I tried this same challenge run on Merciless difficulty. I THINK it might be possible to repeatedly reflect Ziongas back at him, but the odds of him using that skill are SUPER low. You could be sat for an entire DAY waiting for him to use the move enough times.
@alyssarasmussen1723
@alyssarasmussen1723 2 жыл бұрын
persona 5 royal but its 'murica
@Funloverparty
@Funloverparty Жыл бұрын
I just started playing recently so I knew this wasn't going to start well XD
@hannahw7023
@hannahw7023 5 ай бұрын
2:10 Colt Magnum sounds like the name of a stereotypical american character in an anime
@joaogomes9405
@joaogomes9405 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, you don't need to reload your save file to respawn enemies in palaces. Simply go to the safe room, fast travel to the entrance of the palace and back to the safe room.
@kratosgow09
@kratosgow09 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine you can hold a confidant at gun point to force them to rank up😂
@laundrybaskets4473
@laundrybaskets4473 Жыл бұрын
I think that’s called Stockholm Sydrome I’ll be honest
@mxwoods3
@mxwoods3 Жыл бұрын
There are 2 things you could've done that would've helped continue the challenge, First is broke the DLC rule and continued on even if it's just for this boss and later bosses, I believe they give you a item that triggered showtimes more often. Second is equip a persona that has weakness to the guards abilities or the bosses. It's risky because if they do enough it could kill Joker, BUT almost every time in my playthrough whenever Joker was downed it almost always triggered a Showtime.
@alduintheanti-dragonborn
@alduintheanti-dragonborn Жыл бұрын
I own a musket for home defense.
@hcorvnov6732
@hcorvnov6732 2 жыл бұрын
becomes the Strange journey Protag and uses only gun
@alloyark3971
@alloyark3971 Жыл бұрын
alternative title: persona 5 royal america challenge
@Peeg_768
@Peeg_768 Жыл бұрын
You made me wanna rewatch some senza videos
@sleepy_Kirby
@sleepy_Kirby Жыл бұрын
More Persona 5 (Royal) Content please!
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming Жыл бұрын
Working on it atm :)
@thescholarsjourney661
@thescholarsjourney661 Жыл бұрын
I was really thinking this wouldn't work, since there are enemies that reflect and null guns.
@Flutterdark_
@Flutterdark_ Жыл бұрын
i see the title and i already am excited for the moment he gets haru (still watching the vid)
@novagears3604
@novagears3604 Жыл бұрын
I.. I’m sorry young one…
@Flutterdark_
@Flutterdark_ Жыл бұрын
@@novagears3604 tbh, wasnt aware that kaneshiro blocks gun. when i wrote the comment.
@MrGemHunter
@MrGemHunter Жыл бұрын
For his normal he wields a gun!
@till5871
@till5871 Жыл бұрын
Aka the smt 4 experience
@orangemoon286
@orangemoon286 Жыл бұрын
Oh geez I wonder which confidant he will max out?
@Robin0928
@Robin0928 Жыл бұрын
"Your math is no match for my GUN, you idiot!" -Joker Persona5
@Linkforlife199
@Linkforlife199 Жыл бұрын
Since gun-based showtimes are allowed, the only way I can see getting through the fight is to slightly bend the rules to Stun Guns, at least until the showtime triggers, but once the showtime triggers, you can't use the stun guns anymore and the fight must be finished with the showtime. Honestly, allowing the use of stun guns wouldn't be that much of a stretch since the gun based showtimes are allowed (most of which use guns in some way). The use of stun guns are only permitted in fights like Kaneshiro, the triple Rangdas and Shido phase 1 while still providing the challenge sought after for the rest of the playthrough.
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming Жыл бұрын
Somebody actually left a very similar comment a while back. I never really looked into items much since I initially assumed that I can cover everything with showtimes but yeah - technically "gun" type items would be allowed too. I will probably do another attempt at this challenge with those added rules in the future!
@Linkforlife199
@Linkforlife199 Жыл бұрын
@@RagnarAlvarrGaming To keep to the spirit of the challenge, I would like add that Stun Guns can only be used until showtimes can trigger, then they are banned, like I mentioned previously.
@gamingwithbam
@gamingwithbam Жыл бұрын
What’s next persona 2 innocent sin but you can’t use combination spells
@joshuabergman3292
@joshuabergman3292 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Shido can be defeated by gun attacks if you rank up the Tower social link, as it gives you Gun Pierce
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming Жыл бұрын
As far as I know the Gun Pierce only works on your actual equipped gun though and not on the persona skills. So you'd need to get through phase 1 Shido with just one set of ammo on Joker which is rather unlikely. I might give this one another shot in the future and also include "gun" based items (like the Stun Gun) to get around things like that.
@steam-powereddolphin5449
@steam-powereddolphin5449 Жыл бұрын
​@@RagnarAlvarrGaming Here's what I think might make this possible: -Any Strength-dominant Persona with Gun Boost and Amp stacked, -The most powerful gun you can acquire, -Expert Customization for the Mega Power Receiver, -Obviously, Oda Special for the Gun Pierce effect, -Maximize buffs and debuffs: Tarukaja, Rakunda, possbibly Sukukaja and Sukunda to reduce missing. Possibly Charge to further boost the first shot in the barrage, if that matters. I believe the total damage needs to exceed ~3,333 in order to get past the first phase in one clip. Before that, though, the Rangda trio in the casino present another barrier that can only be bypassed via Oda Special; I do have a question, though: is it more likely to be beatable if you shoot each one using a Freeze gun with Freeze Boost (plus Laced Bullets, packaged with Oda Special), allowing an all-target Phys/Gun attack to finish them all next turn? Or is it easier to take them out by maximizing your gun's power using the steps necessary for Shido?
@zhoubiden6003
@zhoubiden6003 2 жыл бұрын
Ayy I just thought of this
@kokutoryuu8312
@kokutoryuu8312 Жыл бұрын
"Guns only. Great idea, I thought. So let's give this a shot." Pun intended?
@heiseiren7660
@heiseiren7660 Жыл бұрын
Persona 5 but Joker really enjoyed his time in America
@catfrombowsersfury1654
@catfrombowsersfury1654 Жыл бұрын
Alternative title Can you beat the game as akechi
@highground4572
@highground4572 Жыл бұрын
You can if you name the protag Akechi
@booker-thehooker6621
@booker-thehooker6621 Жыл бұрын
Do a guard only run
@NotTomorrow1
@NotTomorrow1 2 жыл бұрын
noah's arch
@wilkinscoffee4228
@wilkinscoffee4228 Жыл бұрын
Persona 5: America edition
@aryamansingh9210
@aryamansingh9210 Жыл бұрын
I was actually thinking of doing this myself when I saw this, saying you can get past Kaneshiro with freeze, shouldn't you be able to get Shinya 10 for Shido? One problem I can see though is Okumura's fight since you have to essentially kill everything in one turn by yourself and the only way, I can think of is over leveling, which I want to avoid.
@flippythebear1349
@flippythebear1349 Жыл бұрын
Haru also has cool gun skills
@aryamansingh9210
@aryamansingh9210 Жыл бұрын
@@flippythebear1349 For sure she would deffs help heaps but I'm not sure it'll be enough
@jussie6334
@jussie6334 11 ай бұрын
So um i say that some larty memebers were enraged Which means they deal physical damage Is that allowed?
@waterunderthebridge7950
@waterunderthebridge7950 Жыл бұрын
Aka the FREEDOM run
@lewislineberger224
@lewislineberger224 Жыл бұрын
For his neutral special…
@watchrandomuser395onyoutube
@watchrandomuser395onyoutube 2 жыл бұрын
11:55 no you only need to max maruki i donkt know why people think you have to do “kasumi”
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't even talking about her, but the additional scenes you get when maxing Akechi which while technically not required to get the new content, kinda belong to the Royal Ending as well imo
@watchrandomuser395onyoutube
@watchrandomuser395onyoutube 2 жыл бұрын
@@RagnarAlvarrGaming oh ok
@mageboi594
@mageboi594 Жыл бұрын
Gun
@isaacsealey5277
@isaacsealey5277 Жыл бұрын
belphegor was nowhere near half
@kirbyfreakyt4695
@kirbyfreakyt4695 Жыл бұрын
Tfw Seth
@lorenzoantonelli6467
@lorenzoantonelli6467 Жыл бұрын
Persona 5 but America.
@zachtwilightwindwaker596
@zachtwilightwindwaker596 Жыл бұрын
Wait why did the run end again?
@kusaba7770
@kusaba7770 Жыл бұрын
Kaneshiro is immune to guns and he couldn’t trigger a showtime so he couldn’t deal damage to kaneshiro
@sgraham2818
@sgraham2818 2 ай бұрын
am i being stupid or i thought you got showtime in the first palace
@schoudh
@schoudh 5 ай бұрын
Damn, 2 min in and the answer is no :c
@OrionEJ
@OrionEJ Жыл бұрын
here's my guess before even watching the video. Short answer, no, long answer, no.
@AidenAlias
@AidenAlias Жыл бұрын
Do this in base 5 where ammo is limited lol
@Regigigas_YT
@Regigigas_YT Жыл бұрын
what do you mean by that?! In base Persona 5 your bullets don't reload after the fight?????
@velvetbutterfly
@velvetbutterfly 2 ай бұрын
You could just craft endless ammo
@velvetbutterfly
@velvetbutterfly 2 ай бұрын
@@Regigigas_YTin base 5 ammo doesn't reload unless you leave the palace. Each character has 2 clips generally. Depending on which guns they use characters like Skull or Panther could get more. Noir for dome reason had like 6 Doing The Tower social link would unlock a skill that gives you more ammo. You could also craft spare ammo as part of the infiltration tools
@zenith4919
@zenith4919 Жыл бұрын
what about the fact that when kaneshiro's hired help die, he spends all of his money, and i believe he goes into piggytron and instantly dies? i may be wrong, but thats what I remember
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming Жыл бұрын
I think what you're referring to is the end of the fight where he goes back into piggytron and blows up but that's only after you already defeated thim. In Royal the fight is split into 2 seperate parts with Piggytron being part 1 and the guards being part 2 so Piggytron doesn't even have any involvement after phase 1 anymore.
@zenith4919
@zenith4919 Жыл бұрын
@@RagnarAlvarrGaming I figured you had probably done your homework, but i just wanted to mention it just in case you had missed something. Also, incredible that you reply to comments on 5 month old videos
@RosyMiranto
@RosyMiranto 2 жыл бұрын
This Run in a Nutshell. For the Normal Attack, he uses a Gun... For Special Attack, he uses a Gun... Etc. Etc. But seriously, if the challenge said "Gun Damage" and not "Guns Only"... Does that mean... Gun Skills such as Snap and Triple Down are allowed?
@PremonitionGamingVid
@PremonitionGamingVid Жыл бұрын
No, because enemies have nul/reflect gun damage.
@ItzSkettimas
@ItzSkettimas 8 ай бұрын
cheated the run more than once, so this doesnt count to me, but it was a fun attempt and you did what you could.
@riraththelord7030
@riraththelord7030 Жыл бұрын
USA route
@EddiePReacts
@EddiePReacts 10 ай бұрын
No. Theres a boss in the game thats immune to gun damage.
@circularnectarine1439
@circularnectarine1439 10 күн бұрын
tbf doesn’t Shinya’s Rank 10 beat that?
@Apogs38
@Apogs38 Жыл бұрын
atlus steal Baxter Stockman skins sceenes,
@bell3287
@bell3287 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the American run. God bless the U.S.A
@Xuhybrid
@Xuhybrid Жыл бұрын
If you kill an enemy with an item that disqualifies the challenge. I can't even justify it a little bit... Sorry.
@Aichi1138
@Aichi1138 Жыл бұрын
Also known as: Could an American beat Persona 5
@kirbyfreakyt4695
@kirbyfreakyt4695 Жыл бұрын
28:01 Ryuji's Bash: Uppercut, slam to the back of the head, Gun Just... make Bash attacks allowed for this one fight, say it's not possible, and continue the run why are you ending the video so quickly
@jhonayo4887
@jhonayo4887 Жыл бұрын
Persona 5 has to be one of the worst games to Speedrun or to do challenge runs.
@demored3017
@demored3017 Жыл бұрын
figured, and then u have okumura's palace that repels gun dmg
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