It's always cool to see runs in the newer games since they get way less coverage for challenge runs.

@@TheWrathAbove It's been a goal of mine to do runs of the newer games. I missed the opportunity with Sword/Shield and I don't wanna make that mistake again!

Oh snap!! What a late night treat 🥰

Glad to see you again wooooo

Even if the series ended up being unfinished, i'd love seeing another "behind the scenes" Catch Em All like with Ultra Moon

Always thought Beedrill is based on a wasp not a bee... As it "drills bees" 🤔

Right, but they haven't broken through the window have they? Therefore their abilities with bodyslamming are bad, like he said. They're _attempting_ it but failing.

I don't think Wooper knows it shouldn't be able to use Ice Punch either. They should be friends

@@TruBluLew23 But what if Wooper itself IS the fist?

@ Waspidrill

this is becoming a gig...

Kun M B

That's basically every video. They're 50 minutes because the last 25 are running into the Elite 4 way too underlevelled only to realise some extra levels are needed to beat the game.

This was me a 100%.

Yeah....

in gold and silver speed runs, rage is the move used to defeat Falkner, the first gym leader, with Totodile.

@@DKQuagmire iirc, gen 2 rage doesn't lock you into using it, which makes it significantly better than it was previously

@@DKQuagmire its also used for bugsy where it gets replaced by fury cutter

Rage is actually OP for the first two Johto gyms so long as you can resist bug, ground (mud slap) and flying

@@aceclover758 I think wrester also use rage against whitney as well.

legit, I reflexively think that even when replaying Gen 5

I even have that in later games 😅

Unless you’re doing a challenge like this one there’s not even really any reason to use the badge boost glitch if you’re playing a normal play through of these games tbh. You have stat experience the AI doesn’t, on top of that the AI is notoriously bad.

I didn't even know about badge boosting, but now I can't stop thinking about it an how it screwed me over many times

@@HomeCookinMTG yeah but we like to optimise

Aren't bumblebees bigger than wasps though? Not that it makes many differences mind you.

According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a Beedrill should be able to body slam.

@@thekiss2083 Their nature don't allow it. Beedrill, does Body Slam anyway.

@@thekiss2083 please tell me this is a reference to SmallAnt’s video

Or the sound of dying wasps hitting the window trying to come in.

Xddddddd

Bongzilla is the only weedle run XD XD

Just wait, all good things come with time

Aaaaaaaand he's now done a weedle run.

​@@seanjohnson5474 he did it now 😄

I think porygon would be pretty easy. It’s got recover, psychic moves in a gen full of Poison types, ice beam/blizzard (in a gen full of flying and ground types), is a normal type (arguably the best type in gen I), gets two boosting moves by level up. It’s stat total is bad, but they’re well rounded. It’s biggest negative is it’s low speed. So it’d be interesting to see

@@gamingwhilebroken2355 wonder how it would rank with Mewtwo’s time!

@@johntarver5684 Oh way worse lol for sure. I just think it might be deceivingly easier than it might initially appear. But, sometimes things look good on paper but suck in practice.

@@gamingwhilebroken2355 hopefully faster than the legendary birds. 😂

@@johntarver5684 i mean moltres should be doable, but i dont think it can do articuno or zapdos.

Yeah but what move do you give up? Usually there isn’t enough moves and everything else is needed

Hence me saying that obviously it's situational enough that it's useless.

Thats clever but I thing is better take the risk of two Crit hit per battle than waste a slot move and a turn Beedrill Crit chance: 14,65% *First case* Turn one: use focus energy Turn two: Crit hit Total Critical Hit Chance: 3,6625% *Second case* Turn one: Crit hit Turn two: Crit hit Total Critical Hit Chance≈ 0,021

@@EvidLekan while thats true it would change if you take a free setup pokemon into account, then it would just improve the odds for the rest of the battle

I always give my pokemon 2 attacking moves, and 2 buffing/debuffing moves. If an attacking move either causes a status effect, or works with a status effect move, i use that.

UN-fortunately, beedrill was simply not powerful enough to compete against other swords dance users such as scyther and kingler. Thus beedrill plummeted down to the lonely Never Used.

RIP VGC lol

I'm surprised that JRose didn't keep Focus Energy so that he could use it to avoid critting while he had his Swords Dance boosts.

@@athath2010 that woulda been big brain but he probably needed the extra move slot

Beedrill is a really nice specialist in gen1 nuzlockes. Ita really good against the otherwise troublesome psychic mons, has good stats for the early game and a high crit rate. Its just really frail.

never done red but firered everytime butterfree is a staple

but it still isn't worth the move slot just to negate a 1/16 (I think) chance of a crit

@@sachi7614 you'd be right if you're talking about gens 2-6, but crits are based on speed in gen 1, so beedrill has a 14.65% crit rate

@@bungusmcchungus That's about a 1 in 7? I still wouldn't consider it worth a move slot, personally

@@sachi7614 oh it's for sure a totally worthless moveslot, but it's slightly less totally worthless than you'd expect

I mean, if u use items, just use a dire hit

Parasect , is the best Bug Pokemon Gen 1 ,

@@stevensamuels4041 Pinser???

@@mamacrow2759 parasect can counter alakasam

Jolteon also geta pin missle at 28

​@@stevensamuels4041really? How so? I'm not familiar with this and it sounds cool

agreed. This guy is so much better than mahdrybread, who sucks.

@@leedsunited8787 mdb's content is lackluster tbh. It's nicer to get quality in depth videos than it is to get mediocre weekly ones

@@mij5786 Definitely. Proves views do not equal equality.

@@suwakoss Does Arin know about them creating Mega Beedrill? I really hope so

I actually had the same thought several times

kakuna matata?

Is it even possible a Weedle run? I mean, i know that JRose tried it but couldn't beat Agatha. I think it's actually really impossible to do it, since her last pokemon is immune to struggle

@@anlev11 There's probably some odds where weedle can do it given the right ivs at the start and extremely good luck it would be interesting to see if someone has calculated it. Also where is the video of that run?

@@MrCharrrles someone said in a comment in a previous vidro that he made a Twitch stream, but didn't posted on yt About Weedle, the problem is that it can only learn poison sting as an attack. If we suppose a Lv 100 Weedle with perfect IVs, stat exp and luck, and also full PP ups, it would need to beat her before running out of PP, but that's hard since all her pokemons resists poison and 3 of them 4x resists, and Weedle is very weak. I think it may be really impossible, but we need to actually calculate that

@@anlev11It's possible, a German KZfaqr called Creepfan LP did it. Agatha took him thousands of attempts and the strategy boiled down to pray for critical hits.

Dear mew no got me xD

At least it's not Rusty's Beedrill

@@mysticmongrel1289 hey better watch what you say or Pikachu will bust a cap in you

@@danielrader3253 I'm saying Pikachu is scarier tham that Beedrill

Me too! :D

Yep, Beedrill occasionally shows up out of nowhere (even in some recent anime episodes) to cause problems for Ash and company, and even Team Rocket.

He's used Bide and X Items in helpful ways before too. I wouldn't discount anything by this point.

All hail Buntd,!

bzzz surely

If only Beedrill had those moves back in Gen 1...

Well, Beedrill *is* a bad mon. It just is way better than anywhere else (aside from gen 6 with its Mega, arguably) in R/B's Kanto because of bug being super effective against poison, which turns so many neutral/NSE matchups into suddenly being super/doubly super effective. A fifth of the pokémon in gen 1 is part poison type, and Beedrill is the one Pokémon with a good STAB bug move. Thus, I'd absolutely understand anyone taking Beedrill in R/B PvE. if you pick Beedrill, might as well do it there to maximize its potential.

How did it compare?

Commenting to also hear the comparison

^

@@aepstein824 sorry for the delay, but it was actually really close! I finished at lvl 67 and another hour or so of game time, but I also did go grab hyper beam(super thankful for the no recharge on faints in gen 1 haha) and never used double edge. Also I spent some more time grinding in the early game, so I think between that and the game corner is where the time was different. I also had an easier time with the elite 4 but some of that might have been luck and some might have been just my lvl. But yeah pretty comparable for the most part. Lastly just shout out again to jrose. Love the videos, I never did solo runs like these until watching these videos. I even listen to them while running haha thanks for putting out such great content!

I'll add that until I gave myself that challenge I had grossly underestimated beedrills usefulness. The dude cleaned house

Thank god he got a Mega.

Too bad no megas in gen 8 really needed it but I guess beedrill doesn’t exist in gen 8 anyway

Bro take it back 😭

Did you see the video

@@elephystry Did you see when he beat the game with stuff like Diglett?

I heard it’ll create quite a buzz.

Especially since the information is beeing delivered by a voice as sweet as honey.

That's an unbeelievable pun

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeedle

That's going to be the most boring run ever. Just level up to 100 and pray for critical hits. Weedle can't learn any moves and without items, there's literally no strategy.

@@KaoruMzk I’m more interested to see if it’s even possible, that’s what would make it interesting to me

@@zachrichardson3947 it is, a German Let's Player did it without items a few years ago. Forgot his name tho. Edit: I looked it up, it's Creepfan LP.

@@zachrichardson3947 exactly, can Jrose do it without going insane?

have a like, a "buuuuuuuu" and get out

Use Focus Energy if you don’t want critical hits. A few times he could not one shot a Pokémon because he got a critical hit.

Depends if it can fit in the moveset I guess. Scyther could pull it off with wing attack and slash for attacks

@@DukeSR8 the next was actually Tauros and Beedof in BD and SP

He is pretty good. But the problem with Scyther is that it's movepool is pretty barren. Lacks coverage against Rhydon and Golem

And String Shot!

You actually can't get Harden by level up in the Gen 1 games unless you start with it as a Metapod or Kakuna. Except in Yellow, but that only happens with the Butterfree line.

​@@SoraDonaldGoofy99 My poké knowledge ain't what it used to be. That's why I let this mad man do the hard work and just sit back and enjoy.

Id be curious as well. Tauros is amazing in gen 1 OU obviously, and has a good movepool. Teach it body slam, earthquake, blizzard/ice beam and t bolt, and you’ve got great coverage

@@Machoke. That's exactly what I did. The main problem with Tauros, in a speedrun sense is getting past Brock early on, due to Tauros only knowing Tackle. Being in the slow level up group is also a downside. Jrose also has a Tauros run on the channel where he explained the downsides. He did manage a much better time than the one I got, but I am sure that if I re-did Tauros, I could get a similar time, or even better if I gave it my best. In short: You can't get through the game before Brock with minimum battles, but after that, you can pretty much do it.

@@Skarfar90 Brock really makes it or breaks it it seems in the early game

@@Machoke. Indeed. Though, there are certain normal type pokemon that can get past him early on. Snorlax being one of them, due to starting with Headbutt, which is twice the power of Tackle, and he's got lots of HP and a high attack stat. Also, getting past Brock can also come down to RNG, if let's say his Geodude only use defense curl, it will be way more difficult for a Pokemon knowing only a single-turn move. Onix is much easier to deal with, unless you get unlucky with Bide, or many screeches

Seeing the Beedrill v. Alakazam fight in this vid gave me PTSD lmao. At least he didn't use pursuit

Bundtd, !! Very important comma

@@Marianoejar Yes yes, sorry, I do apologize. I'll fix that immediately!

Ok but it would likely cost over an hour of in game time and in addition if he wants to buy them he would have to grind in the elite 4 for money which would level him up anyway

Apparently, according to this video, actual stat changes are counted, but the badge boost glitch boosts don't count

@@ZenoDLC I don't think they do , he said that againest koga when he had only 1 sword dance setup , if he had multiple setup it would be way less damage

@@ZenoDLC That was referring to the stat changes upon level-up, not upon critical hits.