I totally hear you and it’s frustrating as wine geeks. Great Pinot can be hauntingly beautiful but doesn’t come easy!

Im a wine amateur here but i hear you on the cabernet…i preferred that to noir. I had a red blend recently that was terrible…on average i prefer whites to reds

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There are plenty of cheap vs expensive wine videos on the channel you may like!

This comment really made me day… thanks a lot

Thank you, more to come of both!

Thank you!

It’s unfortunate for us wine lovers that we’re priced out of Burgundy. I was lucky to taste some of the benchmarks in my past life but don’t as often as I’d like anymore 😭

Thanks 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂… that’s always the most fun part of the tasting for me too

I like Blauburgunder and Fruhburgunder too. German Spatburgunder is unique bc it is two camps for me, those that have Spatburgunder clones which taste distinctive and those who have Burgundy clones of Pinot Noir.

It can be expensive too

Thank you… I think so too but of course I’m biased 😂🤣

Curious what you mean by new structure? The edit during the reveal? There’s no point in ‘cheating’ because I learn just as much doing these blind tastings as everyone watching. I have a few videos coming up where I am completely WRONG.

@@drmatthewhorkey indeed, the flashbacks are cool. Keeps it real. The “Vaynerchuk brown bags” are always fun. Thanks for the quick response!

Ahhh thanks… I am trying to find out what works best for the channel/audience… YT is a different place than the heyday of WineLibrary TV… glad you got the ‘flashbacks’

Ahhhh nice!!! Scores for me are not gospel and are a way to differentiate wines by preference in these videos

Big fan of Rings too!

Very good call on all fronts! I’m a big fan of Chilean and Argentine (Patagonia esp) Pinot Noir but I’m not yet well connected enough with producers to get samples. I had a Bodega Volcanoes PN from Chile a year ago under 20 that was EXCELLENT.

I agree re: Patagonia. I have enjoyed Bodega Chacra and Otronia Pinot Noir.

Yes I’m jealous about the kind of value you can get if you are in Europe in those lesser known appellations. New World Pinot can get pricey, especially in the European market. Germans can be good value but the premium ones are often expensive.

@@drmatthewhorkey Yeah. Obviously value is a relative thing, and relative to most wines these wines are no bargain, but I’m a sucker for Burgundy, what can I say?

Those are the AOCs to look for. Givry is excellent.

Ahhahah well I did throw in that other supermarket wine hahahah

That’s the name of the game, sharing wine with loved ones

I like the Calera a lot. Thanks for the suggestions to everyone.

Nice, you have access to South African ones over there??? I love german spats but they aren’t always exported - the affordable ones that is.

@@drmatthewhorkey I have to correct myself. I should have said Ortswein Spatburgunder. Oktav is the name of an Ortswein Spatburgunder from a Baden Weingut ; not a VDP classification. I have had one or two SA PN, not a lot. And yes VDP Spatburgunder outside of Germany or Europe is generally Erste Lage or GG, Ortswein tends to only be available in Germany and/or surrounding countries.

You are right on all points! There may be an Alto Adige Pinot Nero coming up in the future... and one of the best examples IMO.

I can totally see where you are coming from and they do offer a nice balance.

I do think Oregon does a fabulous job at this price… Mendocino and San Luis Obisbo too. Germany can but it’s hard to find the wines outside their country

@@drmatthewhorkey helpful information! My favorites are from Lompoc, Santa Barbara County and San Luis Obispo. Kessler Hawk and AVE nail it for my palate, sourced from these areas.

I love the Keesler Haak vineyard!

Agreed! That and that demand allows price to be higher hahahah

Niceeee choices and recommendations

Browne is doing good stuff!!!

Wow, thanks so so much! I know Konstantin personally and we do talk often. It is the mood I’m going for but you’ll see some subtle lighting changes in the coming months. Thanks for watching :)

I concur. We've become divas at this point. Some KZfaqrs have obviously invested a lot of money and effort into their content, Konstantin being the most flagrant example. The videos are tightly made and have this quality about them. He may have be advised by some professionals (come to think of it, I'd surprised if he hadn't). He's also very active on Instagram. Wineking surrounded himself with world class wine professionals like Peter that bring the appeal to his content, but the quality isn't as high as others. Anyways now I'm done rambling. KZfaq is tough, so is WineTube. It's a niche community and it's hard to differentiate yourself. I don't know if any of them are able to break even. Because I know you'll read this comment Matthew, I wish you good luck on your journey and hope I won't bum you out with the criticism.

Thanks for commenting… No criticism taken… Konstantin does almost everything himself, I am a gear nerd and I know everything he uses. I respect him for that, he’s a real KZfaqr. I also do everything myself, I’ve been posting for almost eight years consistently and anyone is free to go back and look how terrible my videos were for years. I also spend an enormous amount of time watching and reading lighting, editing, cinematography, and storytelling tutorials. In my past life, I built a good size small business by scratching and clawing - attempting to do KZfaq full-time is harder than that, it’s the hardest thing I’ve ever done in my life. It almost ran me into the ground and several points this year I almost quit to go back to a ‘real job’. I am aware lighting isn’t the best but equipment isn’t cheap and is hard to lug around. I do the best I can with what I have (I use a lot of hollywood hacks hahahah). That being said, I am about to make a big investment in some cinema lighting in a few months. Shooting yourself is a challenge, to do the audio leveling, cinematography, perform, and taste all at once are skills that come with time. Couple that with learning to edit professionally and you get the point. Add this to the time it takes to source samples to put videos together (i have an upcoming video on this). It can take up to six months of back and forth e mails. Not saying this for people to have pity on me but to appreciate when you watch excellent content from KZfaqrs (esp the tech space) know there is A LOT that goes into this. I watch some creators that put together hollywood-like production and get very very little views. I always comment to commend them. I do listen to critic when it is warranted. A few months ago someone comment on my treble and I went back and realized I couldn’t stand the audio so I spent a week learning how to edit audio better and purchased a new mic. This video format was the result of someone asking to see tasting notes next to the reveal so I wanted to experiment to see if viewer retention would be better. When I went into this, I thought it was easy to post videos… I was so wrong. There are 10 million active youtube channels and around 10% have 10k subs… Around 1.5% have 100k I do appreciate the comments everyone! It’s one of my favorite parts of the ‘job’.

Thank you… I just had it in a sample pack and threw it in, I didn’t expect it to win. Unfortunately, I think it’s only available in Europe and they only made a few hundred bottles.

Hahahah that is a comforting thought. I like a lot of Oceanic Pinots but they aren’t always widely available

Hahahahahha, That’s why i generally go with New World Pinot around 40 USD if I want to be safe…

Cheap Pinot is truly undrinkable.

I would consider anything under a grand cheap. But that’s just me. I guess some people have higher standards

@@EKdlwoasred anything under a grand is not cheap.. cheap means low in price or worth more than it costs. I wouldn’t call anything over $50 low in price..

I totally agree with Loire, I like Sancerre Rouge. I will try to taste Kaufman’s at some point.

Good taste... I LOVE the Stoller Pinot Noir at that price... you can see it in a video here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rrhnoMqc1bepmoE.html

Chehelelem (chuh'hay-lum) I think is actually owned by stoller now. I am amazed about how much they have grown, and they consistently still do good stuff!!!

I am curious about the vintage and time in bottle, I tend to look at the evolution and think about when it is ready to drink, especially since so much stuff is being released after only 18 months. I do love Stoller, Chehelem and Girasole, but I like to find more boutique wines.

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@@prccap ah yes... at was a cooler wetter year than 2018 (the golden year, do could use more time in bottle... I like to go 4 years out

I agree, it's a good wine!

Not bad! But if I wanted cola I’d buy a coke or maybe Pepsi

All about what you like!

There are some amazing value for money Spatburgunders and Rieslings for that matter. They just aren’t exported much.

@@drmatthewhorkey I life in the Netherlands. Even here, next door, good German wine is difficult. Not so much because of export issue, more because German wine is still thought off as the cheap sweat plunck of years ago. Bought a (hopefully nice) spätburgunder (Ortswein level) from Rheinhessen today. Hopefully as good as your find (same price level).

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Agreed

I actually haven't tasted it yet

De la Cote is very very good. I haven’t had Paul Hobbs Russian River Valley, thanks for bringing it up

Niccceee... big big fan. You can see their wines in these two videos: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oNWadZenktPec6s.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rrhnoMqc1bepmoE.html

ohhh I don't know those!

Ahhhhh that stinks!! I am very weak in Canadian wine and would like to try more as the ones I have tried were not impressive. I am aware there is good stuff across the border though

@@drmatthewhorkey Most of the wines are made in limited production. The best usually have to be bought or ordered from the winery. They don't even make it to the LCBO. Ontario produces the most wines and they tend to be very European in their style. British Columbia produces wines in the west coast style in very limited amounts. It's very hard to get them outside of the province.

yes I was supposed to go on a press trip in the Okanagan Valley but then... COVID happened

I can imagine the Cab could be decent. Some casual drinkers might like the Pinot, I just don’t - personal preference.

Yes, generally Pinot Noir does not offer great value for money. That being said, I do think some producers in Oregon do a great job in the $20-25 range.

@@drmatthewhorkey ill give them a shot!!

Thanks… it was edited so the tasting notes go along with the wine righ before the reveal… In all other blind tasting videos, a lot of people leave the video or skip ahead during the blind tasting part…

@Dr. Matthew Horkey I see, sorry to hear that. I always enjoy the process of the person discovering and rating the wine, but you may have more insight into what works and what doesn't on KZfaq. Maybe a summary at the beginning of the reveal showing the ranking would make it easier? Just throwing ideas out there!

Gotcha and thanks… revealing in order from last to first place wasn’t clear? Just askin 😇

@@drmatthewhorkey tasting the wines from worst to best score was fine, it just took me a little while to understand the logic you were following because there wasn't any introduction to the reveal methodology. The "flashbacks" are a good idea I think, but they could be indicated a little better (black and white instead of very slight change of colour tones? some kind of "what happened previously" text to parody TV shows?). Here's everything I have to say, have a wonderful Sunday!

I did think about B&W… I guess the wannabe filmmaker in me thought the subtle color change to depict a flashback would be enough 😂… I’ll have to clarify in future videos

Ahhh you’ve been around wine longer than me and I get jealous hearing about the times when the greats were affordable hahah. Check out Alto Adige in Italy for Pinot, you’ll be surprised!

@@drmatthewhorkey thanks for the tip. I'm a francophile at heart but can't afford the prices they want to charge so always on the lookout for more affordable options.

You'll see an upcoming Europe vs America Pinot Noir blind tasting video in 2023!

Loire Cab Franc is a bargain!

thanks for the hot tip!

Canvasback is delicious!

Ohhh wow thanks so much. I do agree that Pinot can be tough to find in terms of value for money. Enjoy the videos!

Thanks for asking! I gotta fix the link. It’s the bigger glass

I fixed the link in the description box to show the exact glass I used

It's so funny how our palates changed, this has happened to me a lot.

Gathering samples for these blind tastings can take months of back and forth emailing… shooting takes 1.5-2 hours. Editing blind tasting videos takes 4-5 hours, optimizing tags and KZfaq factors takes 30 mins to an hour…

@@drmatthewhorkey does this mean I'll have to wait just a little longer for the Cabernet tasting?

There are a lot of videos already done and are in queue to be released…

There s a blind tasting Cali Cabernet vs Bordeaux video on the channel

@@drmatthewhorkey I know, but I'm waiting to see how the wine from down under performs against the world

Very very good place and the home of Hamilton Russell. I like the Ahr too, maybe my favorite region in Germant visually?

@@drmatthewhorkey Hamilton Russell 😍, love also Peter-Allan Finlayson’s Crystallum line, stunning wines. Ahr valley is indeed beautiful, their “Rotweinwandelweg” is one of a kind. Don’t know how it looks nowadays after the flood. Only one way to find out ;) Have fun Matthew! Cheers.

You can see Hamilton Russell PN and the Hamilton Russell Oregon PN in these two previous videos… kzfaq.info/get/bejne/opeTgcyXz6refZ8.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oNWadZenktPec6s.html

The problem is they don’t become so affordable when exported 😬…

Nicccee, there are some values coming out of Edna Valley for sure

Agree and in all of Germany, those wines don't get exported though often...

@@drmatthewhorkey Some regions are tough to get reasonably priced quality though. Ahr is expensive for example though both Rheinhessen and Franconia are underrated. German wines only really seem to be exported if they´re Riesling for some reason...

I haven’t tried either, thanks for shouting them out

I have had some wonderful ones too… I’ve also had some pretty poor ones hehehhe

Definitely easier to find them here in Europe!

You are right! But then again… gimmie the wines from the Dão when it comes to QPR

I love the Pinot Project and one showed up in a video last year.

As long as you like it!

Apothic Red is a no go for me too hahahaha

Jadot does a fantastic job as a negociant to bring some Burgundy to people at affordable prices :)

@@drmatthewhorkey Even more enjoyable when drinking from Rovsya Wine Glasses purchased from your link. May add another set of 4 .... will use your link again :-) Thank you for all you do !

Wowwww thanks! Glad you like them. When I used them for this video I thought… I need to drink out of these more.

I agree but not always easy to find those abroad

@@drmatthewhorkey yeah I agree, I dont know any prices of exported wine in america

Agreed!!

Thanks!

I’ve had many of them, what producers do you like?? I’ve always found them on the pricier side

....Try Armenian Vorsehk from Areni Wines (its a dry white) but drink super cold and its devine.

There are some stellar ones I’ve tasted!

I've tried several Chiliean PNs but not this one

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I really enjoy a lot of PNs from both countries too!

Def can be but not readily available worldwide… The top German Spats can be amazing but also not great QPR for the average person…

@@drmatthewhorkey Thank God I am very close to the source 😋 but obviously our export rate to the states isn’t that high

I’m a fan of Stodden, Rudolf Furst, Dr Heger, Bernhard Huber but those wines aren’t cheap and for many people, poor QPR

WOW thank you so so much! Merci

A more chemically whip cream LOLOLOL

Thanks for giving the channel a shot and I hope you find other videos to be more understandable. This is the only blind tasting video where I tried something different

@@drmatthewhorkey well i watched the sangiovese video too and to me was a bit confusing aswell. I couldnt relate the tasting you were doing to the wine at the end. It felt a bit rushy and not well structured. Maybe if you go one wine at the time and really take the time to acknowledge every wine on the video, when you reveal it its gonna be better. Maybe only a few seconds more reviewing each wine, and one at the time would make a big difference. Thanks for your reply. I will probably study a little bit more the differences from your videos to kostantin baum videos and try to give you a more accurate solution.

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