I feel like Google is missing a huge opportunity to simplify all of these into just one or two apps. Like one universal thing for all chats, video and audio calls and just use it in all their apps

I have no idea why google didn't just compile all of them together, and integrate to android or standalone desktop app. It will rival slack, teams, zoom, even apple messging.

"KZfaq, which used to have a messaging system" *MEMORY UNLOCKED*

Google photos also has a chat feature. you can talk to someone through the photo-sharing chat in the app

GTalk was legendary. A true MS messenger replacement. It was killed in favour of hangouts that never took off. Kinda like they killed off Google Music and forced KZfaq Music on users. Google - Alienating Users for Kicks...

About YT and TT algorithm I do agree with what you guys discussed.. YT does silo me to tech and car videos which are good but after a while it's repetitive. I remember in the past with YT I would go down the rabbit hole where I would start with something trivial and then end up watching really weird stuff like the dark side of YT. That has not happened in the past couple of years now. The algorithm in YT is refined but it doesn't let you explore so it confines you to your likes.

I think KZfaq has shot themselves in the foot over the whole Tik-Tok issue, YT Shorts has done nothing except encourage me to try out the 'real tiktok' to get the good version of Shorts.

I miss the 'whisper-shout' feature from Allo still to this day.

The chemistry between you two is getting better, and your conversations are getting more engaging, even more enjoyable to watch. Never thought I'd like this clips channel, because I'm more of an audio podcast person, but I'm spending more and time here! Great job team.

Feels like Andrew screwed up telling his boss about G-chat lmao

I will never be not salty about KZfaq straight up removing the messaging feature. I loved it so much.

I think KZfaq shorts are really great for looking for new KZfaqrs and stuff. You can get a KZfaq short to also be related in some way to a video, if one blows up the other does too. A great example of this was Linus Boman and his Olympic video.

Google Wave was way ahead of its time. It was like Slack.

@3:50 Google plus is where hangouts started. And then they turned it into a seperate hangouts app.

Trick question. No one can name all of them.

It's so cool seeing them talk about the product that I work on!

Hearing "Google Talk" takes me back. Good old times.

8:52 i just saw that static and i thought "huh...thats a lot its almost a whole day in just youtube" and then i went to check my watch time in KZfaq and its literally 22h in just the last 7 days😐

Google Wave was so far ahead of its time!! I loved that app 😆❤!!!

They could have taken Hangouts and expanded it to Telegram levels, and dropped the rest, with a gmail component.

At 36, I must be getting old. I was more interested in reminiscing about older versions of Google Chat than the Shorts, Instagram, & TikTok discussion that just reminded me of so many things I now hate lol

Tiktok is banned in my country. It's insane how people's attention spans are dropping. I don't use instagram or KZfaq shorts at all, and people don't believe me when I say i watch 2 hour videos

My wife and I still use Hangout. Easier to sync messages at work and on the go on the phone. It does get messy when we have Gmail opened and the Google Chat pops up, so the messages come over twice.

It's so ridiculous that Google hasn't been able to unify all their messaging experiences under one app. If you use Apple devices you've had Messages and FaceTime built into all your products for a decade now and you know that anyone else with an iPhone or Mac can be reached that way. I have never used Hangouts or Mail for contacting anyone. I used Duo once because my uncle was all excited about it on his new Samsung phone and I had to explain that video calling has been around forever but most Android users either don't use it much or have multiple apps to do it with their friends.

Tiktok passing KZfaq in watch hours is even mind-blowing considering the fact that TikTok is banned in India, unless the study is on American watch data

Honestly Google should have released RCS way back in 2008. Now, the world is using many different messaging apps which makes it hard to communicate. Even if Apple adopts RCS, it will only benefit the United States. The rest of the world will still continue to use their favorite 3rd party messaging apps.

I would like you to discuss Twitch vs KZfaq Live as well

The title is soooo good because it's so true 😂🤣

The fact that he is shocked that some people watch tiktok 30 hours a month makes me uncomfortable

This was a good video.

i think this is a great idea i would totally use video calls within gmail for school and work

Google talk was the first google chat service I used eons ago! Marques was probably an infant back then! Back then we had Yahoo! Messenger, MSN/Windows Live Messenger and Google Talk. And yes Myspace, MyOpera Community, Orkut, Friendster. Lizzie McGuire was all the rage, so was Paris Hilton and Rock Bands! We used to have CDs, Cassette players/Boomboxes for music, DVDs and VCDs for movies. And yes iPods and Nokia Camera phones, Symbian and Java mobile games!! Burning CDs was a thing and so was downloading music and movies off the internet! Limewire anyone? :P We used to play Pokémon trump cards and had landlines to keep in touch with friends! Those were the good old days!

Google Talk was the OG Google chat platform.

14:42 I hate knowing that an algorithm knows that much about me and I don't want that.

Gmail video call is actually fantastic

Dope studio

Wow, I didn't know about a bunch of those!

Google Buzz was like twitter inside Gmail

MKBHD ❤️

I don't know if it's my TV or what but in this video your hands look ginormous !!!!

I guess Google Inbox doesn't count as something separate even though it had a different app and was a essentially a different skin for Gmail

rip google allo, it had the best icon

Imagine one app to combine them all.

“NOTED” 🤣🤣🤣

gtalk was one of the very popular IM back in the days and they couldn't even remember? What about Orkut?

Tried Tiktok 5 years ago and recently. Sure there's content, but as a 5%er, I prefer long form content I can listen to while at work that doesn't require eyes on. Also I heavily hate all the fake content, "watch me prank my wife while she's being filmed but will mysteriously be fooled". The best way to choose your content is to turn off all notifications and just go to what you want when there's time.

Needs more Google Cowbell

this is so confusing it's not even funny anymore. - having hangouts and allo separate made sense - then they killed hangouts and allo and replaced them with google chat and RCS - google chat integrates with gmail and google's other services - people are unsure at this point if google chat is limited for businesses or not as it's rolled out for some people but not others but it's on all business accounts - google chat is for everyone but they only half-killed hangouts and it still partly exists and syncs with google chat - some older hangouts conversations don't sync for a bit then they do after a month or so after the issue was noticed - google hangouts is going to be shut down soon apparently but currently it still works and can send messages to people on google chat

I did a media internship in 2016 and my boss loved Hangouts. Whenever we went on location to do a shoot, he'd video call us. I just remember how bad the video quality was and seeing his grainy face on screen. 😂 Hangouts needed a lot of improvements if it was trying to be the universal messaging app. Google Meet is pretty good now. They've integrated it into Google messaging so if you and a friend have Android, you can call them directly from the text app like a Facetime. The video quality is pretty good and I haven't had any connection issues so far.

How do you not get tired of watching clips of people doing little dances all day long. Is there music involved at least?

Google talk was great

"I can explain it a little better." Hmm who pays your wages boy?

5:00 LOL

Since all of these are worked on by different project managers and they don’t cross stream google is missing out on such a huge market

very informative

Google Allo is such a missed opportunity. That could be the standard messaging app on all androids but they screwed up. They should have just integrated sms/mms/rcs into Allo.

That TikTok Vs KZfaq graph could have benefitted from some more different colors. Not sure why the KZfaq line is Purple when their logo is RED and white? I guess I can blame it on MKBHD since they used someone else's graph, but it's still not the best colors.

... Noted 😂 5:02

Google are bunch of kids aiming at a dart board.

For the record Google's KZfaq even had the social media like personal "messaging feature" around 2018 period. Don't know why they scrapped that too! 😂

Allo deserved better

11:21 haha funny, me with 10 hours a day on tiktok

You can also chat in gpay

Imagine if Google never killed it's good messaging apps.

Google messages is not only sms but it also supports RCS chat messaging

When you buy a Google phone and you wanna de Google it with custom roms 😂

Recently I've been starting to get stuck in KZfaq Shorts instead of TikTok's

honestly viber or whatsapp is more universal than anything google has done

Google is quaking their pants and making shorts 2!!!!! KZfaq shorts 2!!

You can also message inside Google Pay (atleast in India)

1,980hrs since March of 2020 watched on KZfaq. That's probably too much but I'd rather watch KZfaq than TikTok.

This is gonna be interesting 🤣

KZfaq had chats too for a brief period

I just checked my KZfaq Watch time and I'm at 32.5 hours in the past 7 days... I'm going to go read a book now.

Google wave was fun, sad it failed

Google had it, but Google split them again and combine again as of late

I really miss Google Talk!

This is one reason I wouldn’t fully commit to all google ecosystem. There is that not knowing if they are going to keep apps. I was using the Samsung apps when I was on android then switched to Apple December 2020 last year because I kinda know what I’m getting. Apple is not the perfect ecosystem but way better in consistency.

Google photos has a messaging section for sharing photos.

In India reels is very famous, ppl do scroll reels for hours. Tiktok was banned in India and now there are like 100 apps like tiktok lol.

A lot of users consume KZfaq podcasts 1-3 hours long. I think there is a higher average than 8min. I'd go as far as to say 30min. A bunch of normal videos in several fields are 30-40min. I know a bunch of phone tech channels only make 8-15min review videos but I've also watched different types of tech channels average 20-40min videos. It just has to be higher than 8min

Google Pay also has a chat :)

I have never used tiktok on my phone. KZfaq is IT for me.. surprisingly there are not a lot of KZfaq shorts originals just clips ported from tiktok

A lot of people never understood you could send messages for free through the internet using these apps. Some of them used to come preinstalled with android phones but people thought they were just sms apps. I think they need to rebrand one of these apps and use the word FREE everywhere, in the app name, inside the app etc. I know it's ugly and stuff but got to do what you got to do.

They need to mix everything into Gmail.

Google needs a new corporate policy. If you create a new chat application 2 to 3 more half to die.

Google Talk was the official name for gchat

Throw the whole pot at the wall and see how many stick ...

If KZfaq wanted to try and beat TikTok's growing watch time, they may even make a dedicated KZfaq Shorts app.

Y'know, I don't mind Google meet and chat as slack and Skype competitors, and duo and messages for mobile use, more personal and sorta FaceTime, iMessage competitors. That seems cool to me. Messaging about docs and photos makes no sense to me it should just be routed to Gmail as an email. And that's it.

mkbhd doesn't do his hair so he could look like his friends? wow 😭

I think Google Classroom has also chat option

All I get is annoying Reddit Q&As for KZfaq shorts, which is probably for the best… I wasted too much time on TikTok, so I deleted it, and got too much political stuff, which I’m over at this point. I think what’s interesting about TikTok too is that it feels very local at times, when I watched it I’d always see stuff from Aussie creators, which did make it feel pretty unique. But I guess it’s not going to die with that many users… that’s interesting… I’ll re-download when they allow more long-formed content in landscape mode, if they have this great algorithm I’d like to see it on more long-formed content, if they want to compete with KZfaq they will need to grow in that direction.

Tiktok is the main entertainment platform. KZfaq is mostly a tutorial platform with a few entertainment channels

There is a tchat app inside Google photos too 😅😅

youtube is primarily more like a desktop app than mobile, I rarely use yt on mobile

Just take whichever one is used the most at the moment and scrap all the rest. Add any missing features to the single most popular one.

missing the old email system: inbox

A year or two ago i used to watch youtube 10+hours a day everyday..lik damn 300hours a month.. Used to watch streams documentaries and issac arther videos..and mkbhd videos.. Yup..now i dont watch even 1hr a day on avg. Except i am learning c++ oops and data structures which i watch on yt so yeah..thats only major contributor. I mean i cant imagine how much time i used to waste on KZfaq.

You can chat using Google photos too