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Can you run E85 in a normal Gasoline Car? Rotary Corvette Flex Fuel Setup

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Rob Dahm

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@cgunugc
@cgunugc 4 жыл бұрын
"Normal gasoline car" "Rotary swapped corvette" Rob. We need to talk.
@zombieplant3048
@zombieplant3048 4 жыл бұрын
Its normal the 4rotor is a bit weird
@zombieplant3048
@zombieplant3048 4 жыл бұрын
If ypu look in perspective
@Meta2thee4thx-kINg
@Meta2thee4thx-kINg 4 жыл бұрын
>> Many "Swollen" Ego's,... in their (own) little bubble. Popping um is fun!
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
Well, it's built to run on gasoline at least...
@djaydeved
@djaydeved 4 жыл бұрын
damnit welp guess im #421 liker
@basithph8958
@basithph8958 4 жыл бұрын
Rob - “Normal Gasoline Car” Also Rob - “Here’s my Rotary Corvette”
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
It does really run on normal gasoline, though. So it's not exactly wrong.
@BraydennnB
@BraydennnB 4 жыл бұрын
Closest thing to an outro we're ever going to get.
@timpaine6352
@timpaine6352 4 жыл бұрын
skipped the entire vid just to watch the outro ...welp back to the start
@patrickdabs
@patrickdabs 4 жыл бұрын
"Oh its running really lean" Uploaded later that day: Rob puts a 13b in a corvette for only the second time in history!
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
Eh, if you get really lean, but not enough to detonate, it will actually cool off. In a plane, best economy is found when you lean to peak exhaust gas temp, and keep leaning until egt drops 50degF.
@Clutch_Gameplays
@Clutch_Gameplays 4 жыл бұрын
Who else finds it funny that Rob uses a gaming laptop for things like tuning and reading the ECU?
@willpestka2745
@willpestka2745 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta use whatcha got
@thatweebaaron
@thatweebaaron 4 жыл бұрын
Adobe Premier Pro is in the task bar, so i guess it's also the laptop he uses for editing. I have the same one and it's very good about RAM usage
@ratataran
@ratataran 4 жыл бұрын
@@thatweebaaron what laptop is it?
@evanwalters3333
@evanwalters3333 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same computer, as does Kyle from boostedboiz (Boostedboiz also tunes with it) It is a (OLDER) DELL Inspiron 15 7000 gaming pc.
@smac919
@smac919 4 жыл бұрын
Clutch Gameplays tbh it’s one of the best options he could chose, the dell g5 is as powerful as an average gaming pc from 2014 or so.
@ryguy4067
@ryguy4067 4 жыл бұрын
Ethanol is not any more corrosive than gasoline for the most part. Its water soluble so it tends to dry certain types of rubber out. The drying effect of ethanol may cause damage to those types of lines but if you're car is not from before the early 1980's you'll be fine. I've been running Ethanol in basically every car I own since the late 90's (South Dakota we've had E-85 available since the 90's) I have never had a single rubber hose go bad decay or need to be replaced. One of these vehicles was a 1989 jeep Cherokee with a 4.0 that I owned for 7 years and put almost 175k miles (75 miles to Walmart from where I lived). The "corrosive" properties of Ethanol are greatly over exaggerated and often confused with methanol.
@AWD_DSM_FTW
@AWD_DSM_FTW 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. Came here to say this, well done.
@miraclo3
@miraclo3 4 жыл бұрын
Project Farm: Can a Rotary Engine run off on 100% WD-40? lets find out.
@4door_papi
@4door_papi 4 жыл бұрын
Jake Heke a project is never truly done lol
@jacobwebb8818
@jacobwebb8818 4 жыл бұрын
@@4door_papi Accord squad 😤🤙
@4door_papi
@4door_papi 4 жыл бұрын
Jacob Webb yeeyeee give me a sub will be posting content soon i been slacking
@joealex65
@joealex65 4 жыл бұрын
That moment when you realize that even Rob's camera hates the Rotary Corvette when it corrupts the footage! 😂
@aydanangus
@aydanangus 4 жыл бұрын
When Rob and Chris fix upload on the same day: my life is perfection
@ivangabriel3472
@ivangabriel3472 4 жыл бұрын
Instructions unclear. Airplane fuel in my drift trike.
@JoshRiolu
@JoshRiolu 4 жыл бұрын
Hydrolox in my Peel P50
@ctxy3140
@ctxy3140 4 жыл бұрын
Diesel in my Airplane
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
Zero alcohol in that.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
@@ctxy3140 turboprop? Or diesel engine?
@ctxy3140
@ctxy3140 4 жыл бұрын
@@ScottKenny1978 you don't get the joke, right?
@soutparkinator
@soutparkinator 4 жыл бұрын
been watching rob for a few years now and i have learned so much from him. thanks rob!
@BreadManNoWheat
@BreadManNoWheat 4 жыл бұрын
Just found out I didn't get the job I was preparing to interview for at 1pm so this is great timing, thanks Rob
@ev4n5eli0n01
@ev4n5eli0n01 4 жыл бұрын
This is still my favorite car out of his whole fleet. I want to see this thing fully done and daily driver status.
@IllegallyAcquiredKIA
@IllegallyAcquiredKIA 4 жыл бұрын
Everything ive ever know: shut car off before fuel up Rob: NOO
@brianjackson5732
@brianjackson5732 3 жыл бұрын
The e85 is not gumming up the fuel system. The e85 breaks up the deposits laying at the bottom of your fuel tank. It's cleaning the tank, which puts the crap let behind by gas over the years through the injectors and fuel pump. It's the crap left over from the gas that makes the fuel system initially dirty.
@alejandropadilla3511
@alejandropadilla3511 4 жыл бұрын
I've come full circle. the first video I watched of you was the rotary corvette at LSfest, when I barely knew anything about cars. Now I know a lot more and am watching rotary corvette content again
@joshuaryan1673
@joshuaryan1673 4 жыл бұрын
This is actually one of your better videos Rob, I rate it 👍
@madmod
@madmod 4 ай бұрын
I like going back to old Rob videos just to re experience it
@Wildman-wr1sz
@Wildman-wr1sz 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining / teaching for all of us newbies just getting into performance cars and racing. I wish more people would have teaching moments to help people instead of having attitude like we are dumb. I wasn’t blessed to have friends or a dad to teach me. Thanks Rob!
@banmadabon
@banmadabon 4 жыл бұрын
If you have something to learn from rob you are dumb...
@methesoccerplayer
@methesoccerplayer 4 жыл бұрын
Love the educational approach of these kinds of videos Rob! Gotta show the support in the comments
@once-over4243
@once-over4243 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these videos. Really explains alot to those who are just beginning to tune.
@Fox3h_
@Fox3h_ 4 жыл бұрын
I loved the info you provided in this video. Understanding air fuel ratios have always been kind of a grey area for me, but you really just filled in all the blanks. Thanks mate, I’m absolutely loving all your videos.
@CygnusRising
@CygnusRising 4 жыл бұрын
TL;DR: In an alternate timeline, all of our cars would be running on 'E85' (kinda) all the way back to 1927. Nerd time! I wrote a paper on this in my graduate program! What you're talking about with alcohol-based fuels is all about compression. Higher compression (of which timing is the allowance for an engine *to* compress fuel a certain amount) allows for more power to be extracted from said fuel with each power stroke of a piston. This is really a bygone issue for modern cars running well, but 100 years ago, engine knock was a huge problem! Compress the fuel too much, early detonation; engine knock or 'ping'. Gasoline of this era had no stabilizers in it, so it was very unstable when aerosolized and compressed in an engine, but the desire for more powerful engines lead to a race to find a more stable fuel solution. Alcohol, it turns out, while less energy-dense than gasoline, is *significantly* more stable. As a result of this trait, ethanol-based fuels were the primary contender against gasoline for vehicle fuel around 1920; Ford himself put significant resources into evaluating alcohol-based fuels, in part because they were promising, in part because prohibition-era laws saw a whole bunch of distilleries with expensive equipment collecting dust. There was a lot of promise that alcohol-based fuels would be the future of the automotive industry at this time. There was one major problem: you can't patent ethanol. Enter, DuPont. DuPont wanted to be able to patent a fuel additive, so they could sell it to gasoline manufacturers. Imagine, a whole nation of vehicles that would have to pay (transitively through their gas pump, of course) DuPont in order to run! If every manufacturer moved to higher compression engines, you would NEED to have a fuel stabilizer for them to run on gasoline! So, they got their scientists working, and came up with a compound they dubbed "TEL". Tetraetyhllead. Yes, that's right, leaded gasoline. Turns out lead stabilizes fuel, reducing or eliminating engine knock and allowing for higher compression engines without having to do all the work of spinning up a denatured alcohol industry (remember, prohibition) with enough throughput to cut all of the gasoline in the country sufficiently. I want to say they needed 40% ethanol to reduce engine knock? Keep in mind, the oil industry was *not* a fan of potentially selling 40% less product, so they also were strongly in favor of a low-ratio additive rather than cutting gasoline with a high ratio of ethanol Lead however, while a great fuel stabilizer, you know, puts holes in your brain or kills you, particularly when aerosolized -- a detail that took the lives of several of DuPont's lab workers -- that they quietly tried to hide. Bottom line, though, is that you could get a patent for it, and that's what DuPont cared about. It wasn't until some 40 years later, in... 1975?, that TEL started to phase out in the US in favor of other, non-lead ('unleaded') stabilizers, and was officially banned January 1st of 1996. I think it's still used in some limited applications, notably some sectors of aviation.
@ohioplayer-bl9em
@ohioplayer-bl9em 4 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if we never got addicted to oil from the middle East? The amount of money we would have kept in the United States and the amount of wars that would have been avoided? Of course hindsight is mostly 20/20 but WOW.
@yakapo999
@yakapo999 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Schwankl Brazil uses ethanol. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
Remember that in the 1920s and 1930s, the US was the largest exporter of petroleum. When the US put an oil embargo on Japan in the late 1930s, Japan was getting 98% of it's fuel from the US!
@dirk_diggler320
@dirk_diggler320 4 жыл бұрын
Hair is looking good Rob !! Good to see the rotary vette running again !
@xtrakrisb420
@xtrakrisb420 4 жыл бұрын
I was here.. For Robs first outro! great breakdown a a confusing topic.. and got to love that AEM makes quality products.
@kemosabe8313
@kemosabe8313 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I love the science class videos. It always helps when someone explains it, and shows it in real time.
@nlpack7
@nlpack7 4 жыл бұрын
Rob! Michigander here. When I took flight classes at Jackson Comm. College, I used to fill my ranger up with E while I was up there. It didn't run as good for sure, but in the 98 rangers, (which I thought were flex fuel - they aren't) they have 2 plugs per cylinder. I thought it wouldn't matter. Luckily enough for me, I ended up selling the ranger - never knew the effects of using that fuel. Kinda funny now that I know because of you.
@aydanangus
@aydanangus 4 жыл бұрын
9:30 that ethanol percent tho
@abrahammoua4748
@abrahammoua4748 4 жыл бұрын
Very thorough explaination!
@cgworkshop7541
@cgworkshop7541 4 жыл бұрын
Man I can only hope to have a workshop like this someday soon! can't wait to just be producing content and doing what I love!
@ericm3274
@ericm3274 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of care Rob has for the Rotary Corvette: Driving around with a passenger airbag that is still not replaced or removed. 👌
@TakuroSpirit77
@TakuroSpirit77 4 жыл бұрын
Hood shit
@Holtenstein
@Holtenstein 4 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking of adding the flex-fuel setup to my 03 WRX/STI since the gas prices for E85 have been so much cheaper than our 91 California blends.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
If you're already using an aftermarket computer, I'd do it. I don't think the stock ECU can handle it. You will also need bigger injectors, ethanol is only @2/3 the energy density of gasoline. Which means that you fuel economy is going to drop by up to a third (eg, from 30mpg to 20!). If I was installing an aftermarket ECU, I would absolutely add the parts to run e85.
@andyrodriguez1326
@andyrodriguez1326 4 жыл бұрын
Watching Rob Dahm before ChrisFix Sorry Chris just had to get my rotary fix during my break.
@reactionleaction3278
@reactionleaction3278 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds real good. Please do a POV video of this car like how u did with your 3 rotor
@Tabletop-Newtype
@Tabletop-Newtype 4 жыл бұрын
Oh hey Rob's haircut isn't that bad.
@STimedic1
@STimedic1 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, that AEM flex fuel sensor is made by Continental and has an AEM sticker slapped on it so they can charge an extra 20% for their name on it.
@tj1993rx7
@tj1993rx7 4 жыл бұрын
When’s the next round of red Dahm rotary T Shirts available? Got the hoodie but missed then shirt.
@spacefleming5390
@spacefleming5390 4 жыл бұрын
10:30 That sounds so good ☺
@adamv2868
@adamv2868 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes a Dahm video back at it again
@lefebvrevictor3521
@lefebvrevictor3521 4 жыл бұрын
In europe we get a certain pourcentage of Ethanol in every fuel (except diesel) since 1998. Every car produced since 1998 has fuel pump, injectors, fuel lines, seals etc made to handle a bit of ethanol. So you can actualy run E85 up to 50% with no problem at all. Personally i've got a 2004 Renault Megane 2.0 16v with 140 horsepower, and the car is able to run on 100% E85 with no modifications , and the car is obviously not Flexfuel from factory. I did that for about 3 years, not a single problem.
@ihaveanunorigionalname
@ihaveanunorigionalname 4 жыл бұрын
FWIW that e85 sensor is a GM sensor not made by aem as you mentioned. It takes standard gm/ford quick connect fittings it is just re-branded. it has a pwm output for temp and freq for ethanol percentage. i bought mine for 20 bucks for my speed3.
@nwbklr
@nwbklr 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite wheels for the C5/C6 vette!
@devdoesitbest6974
@devdoesitbest6974 4 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, it makes sense why you would run E85 in the rotory. Rotorys tend to run hotter and the extra cooling benefits will help. It will also increase power
@TK-nm9dj
@TK-nm9dj 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: In Brazil we have e85 since 70's, thus it's way easier find e85 than 93 octane gas. Therefore all turbo cars over there are running e85 since 80's
@larsjrgensen5975
@larsjrgensen5975 4 жыл бұрын
With my flex fuel car it is recommended to run normal gasoline every 8 fill up or so to lubricate or clean the injectors. The fuel sensor is nice, my older car needs to burn it to calculate the fuel mix, so it always runs very rich when just started, because the map default is E85 for safety and then it will adjust to gasoline or a mix. Sadly we have no E85 in my country, i need to cross borders to get some.
@nickbeesley2512
@nickbeesley2512 4 жыл бұрын
Dang Rob been using Keeps wrong, went from no beard to beard in 3 minutes 20 seconds!
@SirenDoingStuff
@SirenDoingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for videos like this!!!
@BrainWaveBeats808
@BrainWaveBeats808 4 жыл бұрын
Love the informative videos! More please!
@wombat696969
@wombat696969 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Thanks for sharing!
@_J_U_S_T_I_N_
@_J_U_S_T_I_N_ 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't concentrate after I saw "Lambda" on the computer. Goddammit all I keep thinking about is Revenge of the Nerds now.
@bewhitey
@bewhitey 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob! I finally learned what those lambda numbers mean! Or as I call it, the drunk Y
@DonnieLakota
@DonnieLakota 4 жыл бұрын
Science Rob
@jmkemp98
@jmkemp98 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Professor Dahm
@ohioplayer-bl9em
@ohioplayer-bl9em 4 жыл бұрын
Having a flex fuel vehicle with 225,000 miles on it of 80% are e85 powered I have found that it burns sooo clean. When using e85 my oil is still nice and golden for 6-8 thousand miles after a change. Normal.. pre covid days it was generally about 60 cents a gallon cheaper and sometimes up to a dollar a gallon cheaper. People talk about the politics of it so I have to touch on that. Currently my father in law grows corn and I'm not related to prince oil from Saudi Arabia at all. They could optimize the engine to run on e85 with increase in compression ratios to help get rid of the lower fuel economy but they have to design the engine around garbage 87 octane because people love to save 3$ a fill up on the 35,000 dollar car.. because America?
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
Because stupid.
@H3ntairican
@H3ntairican 4 жыл бұрын
Soooo much car wisdom with rob 👍👍👍
@tylorkelly168
@tylorkelly168 4 жыл бұрын
God dahm, this was some good info
@DouglasThompson
@DouglasThompson 4 жыл бұрын
AEM makes that flex fuel sensor or they put their sticker on it?
@rpracingproducts
@rpracingproducts 4 жыл бұрын
They just put a sticker on it Continental makes the sensors and they are sold under different brands
@DouglasThompson
@DouglasThompson 4 жыл бұрын
@@rpracingproducts yep. Cobb does the same. I wish I would have known that before I bought that damn kit...
@STimedic1
@STimedic1 4 жыл бұрын
@@DouglasThompson this is why I'm helping someone develop a cheaper alternative to Cobb and Delicious Tuning's flex fuel offerings.
@rodolfotorres1602
@rodolfotorres1602 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video Rob. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@joshdrobny93
@joshdrobny93 4 жыл бұрын
That flex sensor sure looks like GM part number 13577429 with a sticker on it hahah
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
More likely that it's the same part GM uses but from the original maker.
@AWD_DSM_FTW
@AWD_DSM_FTW 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, but just know that GM doesn't make those sensors either. Continental does.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
@@AWD_DSM_FTW does Continental sell directly to the public?
@kingmiura8138
@kingmiura8138 4 жыл бұрын
Big Lou said take her down to Dyno Dave's place....Dyno Dave drinks E85.
@craigbarrett2278
@craigbarrett2278 4 жыл бұрын
Layman's explanation. Thanks.
@lugisland
@lugisland 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob, it would be nice to see you run through the gears in one of your cars... Please address the rear end gear in the Vette too.
@tgracing5532
@tgracing5532 4 жыл бұрын
Extremely well explained @robdahm
@jasonfields7396
@jasonfields7396 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry Rob it feels as if I must salute you....Drill Instructor Dahm
@ClwnJuNkY
@ClwnJuNkY 4 жыл бұрын
Tony Fergerson the type of guy who could make his car Run on Rob Dahm !
@jesusreveles1
@jesusreveles1 4 жыл бұрын
Great TED talk
@King1Street
@King1Street 4 жыл бұрын
joys of living in the midwest, E85 is EVERYWHERE!!!!
@nagizah8
@nagizah8 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm Dr.Dahm. E85 is cool, it burns
@nwbklr
@nwbklr 4 жыл бұрын
Good idea for a video.
@stoopydh4878
@stoopydh4878 4 жыл бұрын
SEND IT!
@TomBudin
@TomBudin 4 жыл бұрын
0:20 oh god that knock
@brentmerdian7988
@brentmerdian7988 4 жыл бұрын
Lol there is so many cuts I would love to see the bloopers
@Offishu
@Offishu 4 жыл бұрын
Great info!
@SE_TRD_M3
@SE_TRD_M3 4 жыл бұрын
Looking back at your insight videos as I'm about to buy one in the SD area. You never did an update on the mini subs you put behind the seats. Are they still holding up? Loved seeing the four rotor at 7Stock btw, really great stuff!
@danronck3636
@danronck3636 4 жыл бұрын
Great great great video, thaaank youuu🙏🙏🙏
@RedBeardGreenThumb
@RedBeardGreenThumb 4 жыл бұрын
Rob went and followed vents hair style
@DEE1995man
@DEE1995man 4 жыл бұрын
"...and call it a night." You didn't sleep, did you Rob?
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
Sleep is for the weak!
@albi2k88
@albi2k88 4 жыл бұрын
Rob could use some display capture software to not hassle with screen recording using camera. BB FlashBack Express produces small files with not graphical intensive video captures, express version is free but editor is time trial, I dont remeber is it exporting to avi tool is time trial too.
@blyndrotor
@blyndrotor 4 жыл бұрын
Ohhh kayyy. Mosquitos must be rotary powered. Stay with me on this. @ 7.25 you hear it. I'm guessing (just a guess here) that if you record a mossie, then slow it down. Sounds like a 13b.
@Drewg351
@Drewg351 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty AWESOME video. I found it incredibly interesting. How did you learn all this and get so good with the computer / laptop ???
@aayeron2675
@aayeron2675 4 жыл бұрын
#Thankful for this wholesome content...
@HB-ps6rn
@HB-ps6rn 4 жыл бұрын
Energy density is an important part of why more ethanol is needed to get the same energy output compared to gasoline. Ethanol is around 27 MJ/kg and gasoline is about 45 MJ/kg
@CarNerd
@CarNerd 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on. He should have explained that knock resistance is the reason timing can be adjusted.
@DuBstep115
@DuBstep115 4 жыл бұрын
@@CarNerd Also only rotary would explode using 40% ethanol, I have run my volvo for years with over 70% ethanol and no problems ever. Rotary is a pretty crap it seems.
@Nihil1st1347
@Nihil1st1347 4 жыл бұрын
As some of You mght know. The 1st car ever to be called Jaguar, The SS 100 Jaguar, ran with Ethanol. It is also said, that car consumed very much of it.
@michaelarrington9478
@michaelarrington9478 4 жыл бұрын
This dude is pretty cool
@megamenoshigwedha3190
@megamenoshigwedha3190 4 жыл бұрын
We love you man please wear a mask and gloves when collecting your e85❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@RobDahm
@RobDahm 4 жыл бұрын
I was wearing a mask surprisingly but not gloves ❤️
@Anon.G
@Anon.G 4 жыл бұрын
In Toronto I'm not sure where you get E85. Our regular gasoline is e15 anyway
@Benchillingmai
@Benchillingmai 4 жыл бұрын
Rob looks like he’s part of the green alien gang
@leadsled8961
@leadsled8961 4 жыл бұрын
Sure can if you want to replace every seal in fuel system including pumps and injectors.
@Chriva
@Chriva 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Yes you can. Some idiots just change the fuel pressure but ideally you'd want a remap.
@bdodson87
@bdodson87 4 жыл бұрын
Your haircut makes you look like Herman Munster 😂
@JackBNimble_JackBQuick
@JackBNimble_JackBQuick 4 жыл бұрын
Not a bad video, but it should be clarified that fuel systems, ie hoses seals, plastics, etc manufactured after 1996 is safe for ethanol use. I have a grand prix that I have been using e85 for more than 2 years with no issues. I replaced the fuel pump with a high flow pump (for high rpm). Of course, I rapped the injector flow to compensate for the 30% extra fuel
@bougie2k
@bougie2k 4 жыл бұрын
like allways Rob not ready !!!!! lol
@max16
@max16 2 жыл бұрын
thats interesting.. in australia. our petrol has no ethenol in it unless it is E10 or E85. no matter what. also. here in australia E85 is stupidly expencive because no one buys it, so they have to put the price up. i cant do the math on it. but for us.. for example. regular unleaded.. which i think is your 80 somthing octaine? like the lowest octain fuel you can buy. is like on average $1.30 a liter. E85 on the otherhand is around $1.80 a liter. NOW. the trick is. that E85 has no fluctuation in price. it always stays around that mark. so when premium fuel is more expencive then E85, and yes it does happan. i chuck E85 in my car instead. i can run it because its a 600hp vf holden.
@CaffeinatedFrostbite
@CaffeinatedFrostbite 4 жыл бұрын
the reason cars are not made to use full ethanol is that the gov was worried about kids buying it at the pump and drinking it since it is alcohol.
@Johnballs2
@Johnballs2 4 жыл бұрын
Most of what he says about e85 true, except about e85 destroying seals and gumming up a fuel system on a car not designed for it. Most cars, about 2000 to present are designed to withstand the 10% of ethanol in normal gasoline and can typically withstand more. However, that might not always be the case but in my experience, with my personal vehicle it was. As for this causing gunk in the fuel system, that is untrue and a common myth surrounding e85. If you ever let normal gasoline sit for a long time, you will notice it will eventually start to form crude. This is from the 10% of ethanol that absorbs moisture from the air over time. So with e85 is absorbs moisture much faster and forms into gunk much faster than normal gas. E85 converted cars are also usually garage queens (kinda like all of Rob's Unfinished cars) which doesn't help. If you store a e85 car for a long time, then you need to drain the fuel first. Another unknown thing about e85 that has false myths surrounding it is that just switching to e85 actually in a way advances your ignition timing. This is 100% true and something anybody can test. If you take 2 identical glasses and put pump gas in one and e85 in the other but put 33% more fuel in the e85 glass. Set them both on fire at the same time and see which burns quicker. The e85 burns much quicker and therefore completes combustion quicker. Since e85 has such a high octane rating and cools more per volume compared to pump gas, it's typically okay to advance timing and recommended. However, if the vehicle's timing is already at the most ideal point where advancing anymore will cause you to make less power, you may actually have to retard the timing if converting to e85. This is very rare however as far as e85 conversions.
@dubbleA100
@dubbleA100 4 жыл бұрын
Dang it Rob I just got to the junk yard!! 😕
@rileylowe9422
@rileylowe9422 4 жыл бұрын
Rob, Are you still running the OMP or are you premixing on the corvette?
@chriscaine1776
@chriscaine1776 4 жыл бұрын
Lean is mean until whats brown turns green
@rubenbraekman4515
@rubenbraekman4515 4 жыл бұрын
They now use this new kind of fuel here in Belgium called E10 EURO 95 and it's complete sheite... older cars and some newer cars are breaking down all over the place cuz it's got more ethanol in it 🤦‍♂️
@julianlenferna9092
@julianlenferna9092 4 жыл бұрын
Well indeed stock cars aren’t made to run on race fuel
@lunkydog
@lunkydog 4 жыл бұрын
That would be the same as what he had in to start with. E10 here in the US, screws up older cars, motorcycles, small engines, etc. Not shelf stable, absolutely reeks havoc with carburetors. The non-ethanol gas is sometimes now called E0 and limited in availability or not at all in some states.
@mishamykhaylov9455
@mishamykhaylov9455 4 жыл бұрын
It was always used in the ue.. it’s legal up to 10% ethanol content, recently is obligatory to put what content of ethanol the fuel has (diesel doesn’t have any, for diesel its content of biodiesel). That’s why now you are filling with e10 e95 or e10 e98. The only thing that changed its the naming. Here in Spain I regularly see e5 and e10 on 95 gas.
@rubenbraekman4515
@rubenbraekman4515 4 жыл бұрын
@@mishamykhaylov9455 many official tests have shown that this new "more eco friendly" fuel actually gets worse mpg, more emissions and causes more people to buy new causing more waste...
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
@@rubenbraekman4515 yes, e% is less energy dense than 100% gasoline, so of course your km/l goes down. You need to burn a lot more fuel by volume to get the same amount of heat out of it. E85 is about 2/3 the energy density of gasoline.
@Neziwi
@Neziwi 4 жыл бұрын
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