Can you sand and finish an oak floor in 1 day?

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2 жыл бұрын

How long does it take to sand a floor? Well the answer to that question can vary dramatically, especially between professional refinishers and DIY refinishers. You also have to take many other things into account. What wood is it, what type of flooring, how many rooms and so on. Flat oak flooring is the cream of the crop, you can get that sanded much quicker than say parquet flooring or pine floorboards.
In this video, we attempt to sand and refinish 400sf (35m2) in 1 day. This is not something that the average person, attempting to sand and refinish their own floors is going to be able to do. However, it may be possible with floors up to 160sf, again, depending on what type of wood and flooring it is. Even 160sf of oak is going to be a stretch for one person. I hope you like the video, if you did, please give it a thumbs up and click subscribe!
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@electorofsaxony7646 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant to see you back mate.

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊 I've got some real banger videos coming soon!

@justjacqueline2004 2 жыл бұрын

You are experts and well worth having you or colleagues in to do the work.

@odinschild8303 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I am going to save every floor in my house that was built in 1930. Has been going great so far with your help. Thank you so much!

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! 🍻

@DkKobaADV 2 жыл бұрын

As a professional sander myself when you said "400 in 1 day" i thought to myself, "you need a full day for only that?" Though watching through the video i see you used a more careful method for a natural finish and actually did multiple coats! Keep up the good videos 🤙

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

I knew these comments were coming 🤣 of course we do floors in a day all the time. Has to be oak strip though, floorboards, parquet, not happening! I mean old parquet ofcourse.

@JakePlisskin12 Жыл бұрын

Takes me 3 to 7 days to sand a gym floor

@SoThatsHowYouDoThat 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Ben!! You are a master at your trade!

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother!

@denisconor648 Жыл бұрын

Great stuff.

@regularguy9264 2 жыл бұрын

Skill and experience make for a good combination

@milongroup9902 Жыл бұрын

👏🏽Great video! Thanks for sharing

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🍻 I didn’t think this video was great, glad to hear someone enjoyed it!

@rosed5021 2 жыл бұрын

Just found your channel and watched most of your videos today. I'm thinking of having a go at sanding the pine floors of my 1920's house (before I give in and opt for laminate!), so trying to educate myself. Thanks for posting.

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

Good luck Rose!

@odinschild8303 2 жыл бұрын

I'm working on my floors in my house built in 1930. It is going quite well at the moment. This channel is were I am getting most of my research. I want to save every pine wood floor in this house. I don't think they have ever been sanded.

@Bone89 Жыл бұрын

I hope and pray on everything holy u did not do laminate. ❤

@CanCobb 6 ай бұрын

The machines are heavy and backbreaking. The timing, depending on the space and what your time constraints are, is important. There is no possible way a brand new person is going to do a good job of this in one day, if I'm honest. Ben's videos are incredible, and the fact he gives you so much education here is amazing. It's still a technical and artistic skill to learn, with instruments that punish wrong notes with irreparable damage. The amount of time the edging takes is what you need to calculate. The "bent over the machine," time is important to know compared to the drum sander which is pretty comfortable on the body (other than lifting it, of course, lol). Ben also uses automatic dust vacuums which eliminate the dust disposal parts of the time. The dust really is a big deal and will cover everything in your home if not managed well. I highly recommend his course, it is what enabled me to do my floors. I consider myself a very handy and versatile DIY homeowner, and this is certainly the most ambitious task I've undertaken.

@EdTravelingEast Жыл бұрын

Well done!

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

Thank you! :)

@alk47 Жыл бұрын

ive watched a bunch of your videos. always great to watch. i have one question which i havent seen anyone address. speaking from a purely quality perspective, could you sand an entire floor with an edger? i would like to only do one room apprx 140 sqft. could i do everything with just an edger? would it have the same quality as if id have used the ez8 and the edger?

@doms7628 Жыл бұрын

Hi ! Thank you for great video always! I wonder which grit you use for final cut on your trio??

@daviddickson7494 2 жыл бұрын

Very good job.

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

Many many thanks!

@markallen8097 2 жыл бұрын

3 coats I a day you naughty boy! Love your vids, nice to see you representing the Brits most of the stuff on KZfaq is from the USA or europe

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

First coat was solvent 👌🏻

@jeremyb7659 Жыл бұрын

Can’t believe you use a duct bill for all the edging to each there own they do cut great

@michaelvignale7265 4 ай бұрын

Easy natural finish

@sambryant2283 Жыл бұрын

Did you finish the trio on 60grit? Also 3 coats in one day isn’t good especially if your using water based.

@stevedouglas7500 Жыл бұрын

Hi great series of videos, it's giving me the confidence to tackle the engineered wood floors in our house. One question regarding the Bona traffic HD. It seems that there is also a hardener for this product. Do you use that or just use the straight traffic HD? I'm slightly confused as to whether I would need to use both.

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

You mix the Gardner in with the traffic hd.

@tonyg6103 2 жыл бұрын

Let’s gooo. Nice that it’s all pretty square, open, and flat. Helps that you got another person there too! That’s the key with these quick jobs ;)

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

Yep 😂 had it been 2 small rooms and a hall it would have been much more difficult, thrown in some cast iron radiators to work round… or some aluminium oxide finish.. you know the drill

@tonyg6103 2 жыл бұрын

@@HowToSandAFloor Aluminum Oxide the worst mate. The scraper blade killer!

@kingdomhub.pl_ Жыл бұрын

whats the product you use to finish?

@mrbryanbel 8 ай бұрын

Did you start this with a 36 grit?

@harryrape8261 5 ай бұрын

Depends how many square feet and if they're using poly or water based

@dublinbred 3 ай бұрын

As a pro sander I can say the hummel machine is the best I have ever used and I have been using it 20 years now. 30 40 80 grade belts. The clarke machine is a heavier sander for doing really old boards and ives a reall good cut into the boards but all brad nails need to be punched down with a hammer as the clarke uses paper lenghts and the sheets can rip and cause a mess if a nail head catches it.

@odinschild8303 2 жыл бұрын

Did you mean for your belt sander to have more pressure on the right side of the drum rather than having the drum flush all the way across? or was that how the boards laid being close to the edge near the wall?

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I cant remember, but once the balance goes, out of whack, I correct it straight away. Lots of floors in the UK have sunken slabs and ramp up to the edge of the room. Im guessing thats it

@haileysuggitt7844 Жыл бұрын

Hi! We’re going to be sanding our floors ourselves! I personally love the shade of freshly sanded wood without the coating on it- the sandy colour.. how can I achieve this? Would it be a particular type of coating or does it all depend on the wood itself?

@charliedwyer9634 Жыл бұрын

Look up bona Nordic seal or natural seal

@Nellopi22 2 жыл бұрын

@howtosandafloor I may have missed it but did you say what finishes you used to stain with?? I would really love to know as I am looking for a light natural stain like this. Awesome work really Thank you . Please if anyone knows the brand and stain reply

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

It’s not a stain just a clear primer. The lacquer was Bona Traffic HD in a matt finish. Good luck with your project!

@TheCraneChannel Жыл бұрын

Hey! I’m a flooring contractor in the USA. What poly did you use that dried that quick?? I’m usually only able to apply 2 coats in a day but three is incredible!

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

Base coat was like a universal sealer, dry in 30 mins tops. Very hot dry day, it was. Then bona traffic on top, with fans you can be ready to cut back and re coat in an hour.

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

I know guys that would have 3 coats on that in 2 hours, not kidding 😂

@jeremyb7659 Жыл бұрын

I recommend streetshoe Water base They also have tinting base coats for different stain colors and a bleaching one if people want that white washed look (popular these days)

@R2Mike Жыл бұрын

I thought it's always best to let sit so dust in the air doesn't fall on your finish

@springspring6180 Жыл бұрын

I noticed that you did not remove floor baseboard trim, how does it look along the trim and edges after shaving off some floors?

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

Have you never done it?

@Ragnar8504 Жыл бұрын

Fastest I've done as a DIYer with limited experience was an afternoon for a small room (something like 2.5x3 m) of oak parquet tile, the 100x100 mm thingies you had back in the 60s and 70s, I think including an emergency trip for more abrasives or something like that. The worst floor I ever did was NOS beech herringbone, utterly horrible stuff (I'm fairly sure it was reject leftovers to begin with and several decades of poor storage didn't help), massive height variations and rock hard timber. I'm surprised you actually sanded the floors in the video, my parents have been told flat out: "No one refinishes engineered floors, just replace them!".

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

Whoever said that shouldn’t be sanding floors. Or they just want to install floors instead of sanding

@ACAIDC Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't have noticed that spot on the lens if you hadn't mentioned it in the video... I couldn't stop staring at it after you pointed it out :(

@carforumwanker 2 жыл бұрын

What do you think is the best "wax" none stained finish thats not a 2 pack type and ok to work with ? This is for a nice condition Pine floor . Cheers

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve done 1 wax job in my entire life, and that’s because the owner explicitly said he wanted it to wear out and get stained. Treatex have a 2 component Hardwax oil that is very good

@evsnova74 2 жыл бұрын

Flaaaaaat bro. What finish do you use these days?

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

I’m on the dark side of the force. Bona Traffic HD 😂 I deffo want to get one of those videos of yours so I can do a voice over, wax lyrical and mention you by name and your business!

@evsnova74 2 жыл бұрын

@@HowToSandAFloor holy crap what are you abrading with that powders up like that with HD? I'm gonna get back on doing video content for wood floors. I have a go pro now so I should be able to make a banger of a video compared to before.

@broncoramfan Жыл бұрын

What finish did you use that would let it dry so fast? Great job by the way. I wish my ex boss would've bought a trio. Floors look amazing with that

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

First coat is a solvent primer, with a fan it dries in about 30 mins. Second coat is bona traffic HD, with a fan 45 mins to an hour

@broncoramfan Жыл бұрын

@@HowToSandAFloor bona traffic hd for the win 👍👍

@rosee784 2 жыл бұрын

If we aren't able to get the large machines, could we just use a couple of the orbital sanders? I know it would take longer, but we don't have easy access to rent the larger equipment. We're doing a room similar in shape and size to this video.

@clownmoshpit2778 Жыл бұрын

The amount of labor that would take would be almost entirely unworth it (in my opinion).

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

sorry for the late reply, but as clownmoshpit says, its a lot of work!

@shaynew.6953 Жыл бұрын

We do the same process and we use water before staining. Love just poly in and out

@shaynew.6953 Жыл бұрын

Looks like someone patched it with the wrong wood though

@shaynew.6953 Жыл бұрын

Actually not at end it’s beautiful

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

yes, just poly is the ticket :)

@gerlofboy2011 2 жыл бұрын

Did you try-out the green belts from bona already?

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

I tried the green disks, they were ok. Nothing to write home about imo

@trisgma6000 2 жыл бұрын

doin an open area that goes from livingroom into dining room and an office. for a diy’er need to do rooms separately bc of furnishings. how do we make sure everything looks even and blended btwn rooms? oh the floors r original to the house, 100years old.

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

Its a bit long to explain here, but at the moment I’m offering unlimited email help with my video course, it’s an absolute bargain and I’ll answer this for you. For 100 square metres it’s a must.

@michaelvignale7265 4 ай бұрын

4 inch cut in brush maybe satin finsh ?

@mikelee7876 5 ай бұрын

Of coarse u can if it’s small job I’ve done it plenty of time s

@SkillzMillz83 Жыл бұрын

You don’t mess around with the grits. I like that. There is something to be said about I guy working for himself opposed to a guy working for a guy. You still get paid very well for taking your time… comparing to a slave driving boss who looks at you sideways because you didn’t get that f’cked up 550 sq’ done in one day. Fine, I can one cut a floor with 80. Watch me. Just don’t ever look at the floor in direct light or with your eyes open. As a matter of fact, just look the other way and turn the lights off when viewing the floor. It’s tiring when you care more about the floors than your boss does.

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

I could never go back to working for someone, the time scales are just so unrealistic

@markhamilton8765 Жыл бұрын

You need to be running your own business - where YOU get to set and maintain the standards you like.

@benaiahheise1325 8 ай бұрын

Consider me uneducated but what’s the difference between a stain that u wiped away after applying and what u initially applied on this job?

@HowToSandAFloor 8 ай бұрын

Stain is a pigment that changes the color, lacquer dries as a film over the surface, giving the floor some protection

@benaiahheise1325 8 ай бұрын

@@HowToSandAFloor and which one do u generally recommend or does it depend on how dark u want the flooring to look?

@isaachunt5799 11 ай бұрын

i'de be top coating that by 2 o'clock. i've been sanding floors since 1978.

@hasparke Жыл бұрын

Merhaba dostum kolaygelsin

@oliverbicanic8517 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny sins you're good at sanding

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

🤣 if only

@AsBiki Жыл бұрын

How would you sand unfinished hardwood flooring ?

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

Coincidentally, I’ve just uploaded a 46 min video on sanding new unfinished hardwood floors to my video course!

@marcelopena4631 2 жыл бұрын

Is there a different procedure for a front porch floor?

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

Is it outside? and if so is it sheltered?

@marcelopena4631 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, outside and sheltered but open to the elements

@hardwoodstudio5833 Жыл бұрын

400 Sq ft is large? I use a large drum sander and I can typically get a large room sanded and finished. The perk of having a big old sander, I do oe run with 36 and I go straight up to 80. Though I do want a belt sander, much easier working alone on smaller jobs. Drum sander can't be lifted by yourself and you need a 40 Amp breaker. I do like processes and results.

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

I did say the Pro’s will be coming out in force telling me I’m slow 😂

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

Regarding can’t lift by yourself: I have thought so many times about having a pulley on a rail inside the van, and the. Obviously wheels to roll it in and out. Just a thought

@hardwoodstudio5833 Жыл бұрын

@@HowToSandAFloor I think the difference in speed is solely the difference in tools. Belt sanders are just slower machines. The drum sander I use is 100 years old aluminum brick of a machine. It cuts hard and takes a lot of power. Lol I also can't really cross grain with it. I only do that on really sticky thick floors. I was just mostly amazed at the house size. Being American I forget the houses in my rural area are pretty good sized. I'm doing a 1,200 Sq ft about 111 Sq m and that's an average job.

@brucehayes7251 Жыл бұрын

@@hardwoodstudio5833 late to party but interesting to read your about your happiness with old machinery,I also use an older,1965 Vinco drum sander,eats old floors and spits them out. Also heavy but motor comes off easily to transport between van and job. My father made a long plywood ramp to roll machine out ,was still sanding at 70.

@hardwoodstudio5833 Жыл бұрын

@@brucehayes7251 at 70!? That's going to be the guy who taught me. I still work with him as we are 2 of 4 hardwood guys in my county. But dang, they don't make people like your father anymore. I'm 36 and I'm already looking at doing something else. I love my work, it's very fulfilling but it can start getting hard on your knees and wrists.

@ukmud6218 7 ай бұрын

Who's taught you to edge like that

@behrens97 6 ай бұрын

To be honest that floor looked like it had many years left before refinishing

@paradisewoodflooringoffici3230 Жыл бұрын

That I get done by noon with 2 passes of BM and edger and finish with Trio… 3 coats of Bona and I’m out. Latest 1:00 I would be out

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

No rotex?

@behrens97 6 ай бұрын

To be honest, that floor looked like it had many years left before refinishing

@mikelee7876 5 ай бұрын

No reason to do a 45 on It unless it’s not flat waste of time

@Professional_Youtube_Commenter Жыл бұрын

I dont know why people do real wood veneer floors like this, either stick to laminate or go fully solid wood. But going hybrid you get beenfits of neither. The floor looks like laminate.it will peel off the backing and lift. You dont want to sand and refinish more than once, and based on b&q prices it's about 2/3 of the price of solid wood.

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

solid wood is getting phased out almost completely here mate. Engineered is more stable, cheaper, the hardwood bit that you can actually use is just as thick as the bit you can use on the solid wood, as once you sand down to the tongue and groove, it needs replacing anyway. However... the stuff that im sanding in this video, is indeed cheap crap 😂

@sprucelodge 2 жыл бұрын

No big deal do it ever day 😀

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

We know this, only way to make money.

@walterfarina5290 Жыл бұрын

Ah ah ah io con la levigatrice a nastro e monospazzola ci metto la metà del tempo facendo due volte i bordi con lo stesso macchinario se vuoi contattarmi

@colinmoore7460 Жыл бұрын

Have you ever gotten distracted and painted yourself into a corner?

@jeremyb7659 Жыл бұрын

Typical boss leaving for a while don’t touch a thing comes in to coat lol jk

@HowToSandAFloor Жыл бұрын

Haha, you know the drill 😂

@freddiethompson8687 2 жыл бұрын

This is awesome but I think this is a technical fail on the fact that trades are not aloud to work past 4 maybe 5pm so 6:15pm is completely unrealistic.

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean they’re not allowed to? Tbf, if I had started at 8 and not forgot my bits, I’d have been done by 4:30 easy. Also recording and messing around with that

@mikelee7876 2 жыл бұрын

Omg that buffer is crap. I’d have it done in 30 mins and me time. All u need for natural

@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын

Whats wrong with the buffer? You'd have the whole job done in 30 mins?

@isaachunt5799 10 ай бұрын

lol no belt on the machine. u cant sand a floor with no belt. always start on diaganol with the rough paper. i'de have first coat of varnish on that floor by 12 o'clock. top coat by 2..been sanding floors non stop since 1978.