Can You See A Laser Pointer From The Space Station?

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Scott Manley

Scott Manley

5 жыл бұрын

Green laser pointers are amazingly useful tools for teaching the general public about the night sky, it's easy to point out specific targets and have everyone know what you mean. Sometimes people will point out satellites and even the ISS, so I wanted to figure out whether an astronaut on the ISS would be able to see lasers from people on the ground.
Here's the original video of the ISS Flash project:
• ISS FLASH PROJECT

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@apophis1337
@apophis1337 4 жыл бұрын
Answer to video title: YES, IF IT'S MADE BY STYROPYRO.
@grantl1569
@grantl1569 4 жыл бұрын
Illuminate the ISS? This sounds like a job for Styropyro!
@dg9158
@dg9158 4 жыл бұрын
@THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN more like the láser god
@TheVRSimon
@TheVRSimon 4 жыл бұрын
He´ll burn straight through the ISS :D
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 4 жыл бұрын
Don't give him this challenge, he will try to pop it with a laser ;-(
@luizfernando4497
@luizfernando4497 4 жыл бұрын
He will melt a hole in the wall :P
@NavaOC
@NavaOC 4 жыл бұрын
He would laugh at 5mw
@recklessroges
@recklessroges 5 жыл бұрын
Expected a "no" got a "yes".
@Joe-cx3zr
@Joe-cx3zr 4 жыл бұрын
Answers at 6:42
@lmao8yearsago478
@lmao8yearsago478 4 жыл бұрын
Joe thx
@eklhaft4531
@eklhaft4531 4 жыл бұрын
In a lab I work with a laser. The manual says the minimum eye-safe distance in the direction of the beam is 158km. I always wondered what that number might be good for.
@TWA88T
@TWA88T 5 жыл бұрын
As an airline pilot, once again please do not shine them at me.
@SteveVi0lence
@SteveVi0lence 5 жыл бұрын
Is that your excuse for 9/11?
@weirnershittler6752
@weirnershittler6752 5 жыл бұрын
@@SteveVi0lence lmao
@blastfiendsunite420
@blastfiendsunite420 4 жыл бұрын
Sure Captain Twat...
@testfortester7131
@testfortester7131 4 жыл бұрын
SteveVi0lence lmao
@sethadkins546
@sethadkins546 4 жыл бұрын
@@SteveVi0lence lmao
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 5 жыл бұрын
I once shot my high powered blue laser at the space station while recording the live feed from the space station web cam on my computer and you could see a blue dot flashing from the ground. the problem is I was never able to recreate it so I dont know for sure if the flash was from me or something else. Edit: I just found the video, the quality is not great, in fact its rather bad since I had to download it off face book, but I'll email it to you.
@labratmatt7327
@labratmatt7327 5 жыл бұрын
That's pretty neat! I might have to try that for myself one night.
@moag2000
@moag2000 5 жыл бұрын
Did you recover the photons that were dissolved in the atmosphere in the process? :)
@vinno97
@vinno97 5 жыл бұрын
Could you post a link here as well?
@officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408
@officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408 5 жыл бұрын
Oh you could phase-modulate the laser and use that to confirm the distance to the space station, that would be cool.
@Adrena1in
@Adrena1in 5 жыл бұрын
Are the live feeds still active? Because I was watching a feed the other night, while also monitoring the ISS tracker website, and the images of the land the ISS was passing over didn't seem to match, so I guessed I was watching an old feed or something.
@jgregorygraves5792
@jgregorygraves5792 4 жыл бұрын
Despite all the complaining about how long this video is I loved all of it and I appreciated the entire explanation. Thank you for sharing.
@Chief2Moon
@Chief2Moon 4 жыл бұрын
J Gregory Graves Some have more intellectual curiosity than others. Some of us like to read an entire book, or article, &some just wanna thumb through& look at pictures with captions.
@jgregorygraves5792
@jgregorygraves5792 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chief2Moon Yep, it's what makes the world go round... so to speak : )
@Skelyboss
@Skelyboss 4 жыл бұрын
8 minutes is pretty short
@adamjpd
@adamjpd 4 жыл бұрын
They should just Google it. Then the answer is instant 😉.
@trizno8975
@trizno8975 3 жыл бұрын
Long? It's only 8 minutes
@nearestyoutube
@nearestyoutube 4 жыл бұрын
Who else is just scrolling through comments whilst he chats away, until you reach someone's comment directing you to the answer Yes at 6:50?
@UZI9MMAUTO
@UZI9MMAUTO 4 жыл бұрын
Me! Thank you.
@pax8948
@pax8948 4 жыл бұрын
Well someone had to say it
@mojoejojo6675
@mojoejojo6675 4 жыл бұрын
God Bless You child.
@Arthur-rh9tf
@Arthur-rh9tf 4 жыл бұрын
Me
@1andonlyjoeyb534
@1andonlyjoeyb534 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@PaulPaulPaulson
@PaulPaulPaulson 5 жыл бұрын
* puts on black hat * What if we tried more power?
@thetrueamerican707
@thetrueamerican707 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Paulson school lazerings would happen
@HelpFromAbove1
@HelpFromAbove1 5 жыл бұрын
I read this in Will Wheaton's voice because he was the reader for the Audiobook "What If".
@lesto12321
@lesto12321 5 жыл бұрын
what if we CROSS THE BEAM!
@RaimarLunardi
@RaimarLunardi 5 жыл бұрын
Look at Isaac Arthur channel, idk the exact video, it's one of the space warfare, stating why lasers as space weapons are a bad idea and useless...
@coryman125
@coryman125 5 жыл бұрын
I knew I'd find a comment like that somewhere, hah
@Cythil
@Cythil 5 жыл бұрын
The picture of the laser aimed at the space station from the ground was pretty neat. Glad someone made this experiment. ^_^
@officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408
@officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408 5 жыл бұрын
Fail for the searchlights, though. And that was two 1-watt blue lasers. Green is much more visible to the eye, in terms of frequency response, but still doubtful that a single 5mW green laser would be visible from 500km into space. I'm sure the atmosphere would diffuse or filter most of that energy anyway.
@Cythil
@Cythil 5 жыл бұрын
There is not really such a thing as a fail when it comes to properly conducted experiments. Just positive or negative results ;)
@officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408
@officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408 5 жыл бұрын
_at least 10 others have too_ Not always. It's a fun theory but unproven. What it means is, "don't even bother trying," so those 10 become 0. Where would we be if it was always 0? The problem is caucasians are the founders of civilization and technology, who are also the worlds smallest minority. And people are upset we invent everything and want us to stop so they have a chance at getting 1. But they will always be 0. Social Darwinism.
@officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408
@officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408 5 жыл бұрын
+Cythil the experiment was for the search lights, as explained, the blue laser was only to align the search lights and was turned off to allow for the search lights to be seen. It's like experimental drug testing and only the control group lived, and calling it a good drug test. That's not a properly conducted experiment!
@Cythil
@Cythil 5 жыл бұрын
Again. Even when you get a negative result it is still a result Officer Meow Meow Fuzzyface. Then you know that the search lights in that setup won't cut it. Now I admit I have not read there research papers. But from what I can tell it was a resounding success that gave negative results. ^_^
@sarjim4381
@sarjim4381 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously, don't point those green lasers at aircraft. I was the observer on a law enforcement helicopter for a number of years. We had one idiot paint us with a laser as we were orbiting over the scene of a murder and foot pursuit. The pilot was dazzled enough we had to break off the orbit until he regained his eyesight. Unfortunately for Laser Dude, we also had a GPS following the Night Sun searchlight, and we were able to light him up before we broke off. It took five patrol units about five minutes to have him custody after fighting with officers and doing the electric boogaloo for a couple minutes.. He served 4.5 years in prison on a combined state and federal felony charge. Just don't do it.
@KennyG_420
@KennyG_420 5 жыл бұрын
Sar Jim Damn!!!
@darkracer1252
@darkracer1252 5 жыл бұрын
glad to hear they got what they deserved. i have a 200mw laser. but i am well aware of the dangers. (including the invisible wider spread beam you get with green lasers)
@drifterax7731
@drifterax7731 5 жыл бұрын
4.5 years??? BS.. messing around with a laser shouldn’t net you any longer than a few months jail time
@darkracer1252
@darkracer1252 5 жыл бұрын
@@drifterax7731 blinding a pilot thats flying a plane with 300 people is pretty bad
@darkracer1252
@darkracer1252 5 жыл бұрын
@Håkan Lundberg the problem is that this generally happens during landing. not exactly a time you want to be blinding a pilot is it?
@scottd9448
@scottd9448 4 жыл бұрын
When I lived in England, food deliveries could never find my house. So I would go outside and shine a green laser into the air for them to find me. It was a bit more powerful than a pointer.
@tach5884
@tach5884 3 жыл бұрын
*ISS explodes
@natesmartkid6493
@natesmartkid6493 3 жыл бұрын
you had aeriel food delivery?
@scottd9448
@scottd9448 3 жыл бұрын
@@natesmartkid6493 You could see the laser from ground level from over a mile away.
@joskethegreat4154
@joskethegreat4154 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottd9448 yup. I live in an apartment (4 stories) and shit mate I could shine towards those skyscrapers
@sanfourd5856
@sanfourd5856 2 жыл бұрын
That's assault, you can get arrested for that, consider yourself lucky and never do something like that ever again
@WakarimasenKa
@WakarimasenKa 5 жыл бұрын
Well.. If it is illegal to dazzle parties, I'll just stay at home.
@headstrument7657
@headstrument7657 5 жыл бұрын
Such a great comment...
@SpydersByte
@SpydersByte 5 жыл бұрын
best comment.
@wastedtalent1625
@wastedtalent1625 4 жыл бұрын
I came
@bluethunder6801
@bluethunder6801 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@macman975
@macman975 4 жыл бұрын
Your comment pleases me.
@chrismcquade
@chrismcquade 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a pilot and have been lased a few times at night and it is quite annoying, but I can't say it's ever blinded me. The whole hand held nature just makes it flash randomly. These days though, with GPS we just tell ATC the lat/long or street address and they send the cops, 5 minutes later we can see a more satisfying kind of flashing lights :)
@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep
@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep 8 күн бұрын
So glad to hear from a objective pilot with a real experience 😅 thank you for your time
@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep
@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep 8 күн бұрын
​@@lusiscuswho is your comment aimed at? I have trouble working out who is replying to who😢
@lusiscus
@lusiscus 8 күн бұрын
@@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep hmmmmm, I think I have somehow posted on the wrong video, I do apologise.
@whitedovetail
@whitedovetail 3 жыл бұрын
Rule #1 Never point a laser at a person, auto, or aircraft. When I was studying Laser technology back in 1978 & 79 we had to memorize the safety rules concerning lasers and yep, it is #1!! Great Video Scott!!!
@bitonic589
@bitonic589 Жыл бұрын
What about self defense
@artbyjes
@artbyjes 5 жыл бұрын
There is absolutely no reason I need to know this information. I enjoyed it thoroughly all the same. Thanks for that 😁👍.
@ilikelefunymemes2828
@ilikelefunymemes2828 5 жыл бұрын
So I could grab my 2.5 watt laser, and send a message to iss saying: S E N D N U D E S
@swayingGrass
@swayingGrass 5 жыл бұрын
Beware Cthulhu
@stinkyfungus
@stinkyfungus 5 жыл бұрын
Michal for berevity I suggest: SND NOODS Would be faster/easier to send in morse.
@ilikelefunymemes2828
@ilikelefunymemes2828 5 жыл бұрын
stinkyfungus tru
@YuffX
@YuffX 5 жыл бұрын
post bobs
@ilikelefunymemes2828
@ilikelefunymemes2828 5 жыл бұрын
Or perhaps more fitting would be: T R A N S M I T N U D E S but its longer
@scottmajor2620
@scottmajor2620 5 жыл бұрын
Thx, Scott for reminding everyone not to point those lasers at aircraft. You'd be amazed how often it still happens, especially on approach. :)
@ParkerUAS
@ParkerUAS 5 жыл бұрын
Scott Major Yup, I've been hit once while flying an Arrow. Thankfully, it wasn't bad and I just went out and flew around the practice area for my region for about 30 minutes while my night vision returned. Reported it, but nothing ever came out of it.
@sheevpalpatine80
@sheevpalpatine80 5 жыл бұрын
Is it in any way likely that someone with a mirror or even a reflective wristwatch can use it to point it at a helicopter and actually be noticed? This is a survival tip I've heard a few times and always doubted until I saw this video.
@ParkerUAS
@ParkerUAS 5 жыл бұрын
Sheev Palpatine During daylight it needs to be really reflective (signal mirror) and the pilot has to be looking for it. I've seen those anti bird devices, that are basically mirrors spinning in the wind, on buildings from miles away, but it wasn't like they took my attention; more like I happened to look over there and noticed the strobe effect. At night, a strong flashlight is easily seen from miles. Just as you can see headlights miles away when up on a hill, the same thing applies. The difference is the "background". I can see you waiving a flashlight in the middle of nowhere with no other light sources much easier than if you were waiving the same flashlight at me from the center of Times Square.
@caryrichardson43
@caryrichardson43 5 жыл бұрын
MP I just had two reports from separate pilots out over the ocean say they were hit with lasers literally a few hours ago. I'm like, you are over the ocean right now, how is that even possible? We get reports quite frequently.
@gorebello
@gorebello 5 жыл бұрын
FriskyDingo it must be Atlantis or people at ISS on their resting time.
@comtruceno8929
@comtruceno8929 5 жыл бұрын
6:25 ayy that's a cool effect
@TheAechBomb
@TheAechBomb 3 жыл бұрын
funny thing is, that's just an old camera mounted on the ISS :P
@idontcare7961
@idontcare7961 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i admit very nicely computer generated sunset.
@KijasFX
@KijasFX 4 жыл бұрын
Really detailed, well explained and pretty much covered all the bases. Great video!!!
@Astronomy_Live
@Astronomy_Live 5 жыл бұрын
Handheld would be tricky, but with an off the shelf LX200 telescope armed with my optical tracking software you would be able to keep a pointer centered on the station automatically and without needing any manual adjustment. As you mentioned, this has been done before with the astronaut in question being notified ahead of time that it was going to be happening. I wonder though if you encoded a laser to fire off a quick and simple 'Hi ISS' message in Morse code and diligently fired it at the station on every early evening or early morning opportunity, if they would eventually notice it by accident.
@mhyotyni
@mhyotyni 5 жыл бұрын
Astronomy Live .... .. .. ... ...
@JohnKha
@JohnKha 5 жыл бұрын
All dots
5 жыл бұрын
Astronomy Live Do it, please!
@ilikelefunymemes2828
@ilikelefunymemes2828 5 жыл бұрын
And use a bigass laser atleast 1w green.
@MrAnthonyfrench
@MrAnthonyfrench 5 жыл бұрын
Could you program the mount to track the stations trajectory and at the right speed though ? As they are only designed to track at speed of the earths rotation I presume. TIA
@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-
@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- 5 жыл бұрын
Communications are down. Get the laser guys.
@N1inSK
@N1inSK 4 жыл бұрын
Never mind the lasers; call the hams. There is amateur radio onboard the ISS, and they use that to communicate when the fancy stuff goes pear-shaped.
@leopardcubpupkryky6940
@leopardcubpupkryky6940 4 жыл бұрын
This was THE most interesting thing KZfaq has recommended to me in a long time.👍👍
@harrylebastard
@harrylebastard 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for shining a light on the subject.
@adamrasmussen3521
@adamrasmussen3521 5 жыл бұрын
But how much of the light would be obstructed in the atmosphere?
@scottmanley
@scottmanley 5 жыл бұрын
Somewhere between 0.1% and 100% depending on the weather.
@TheOnlyPsycho
@TheOnlyPsycho 5 жыл бұрын
LOL, actually the most accurate answer that can be given!
@nazamroth8427
@nazamroth8427 5 жыл бұрын
Considering that every bit of laser you see as a line, is a bit of laser not getting through the atmospere, I would say "more than ideal for this purpose"
@markoap91
@markoap91 5 жыл бұрын
This question was on my mind throughout the entire video. I was expecting at least a rough estimate, in favorable weather conditions of course. Since anybody trying this would probably wait for a clear sky.
@TheAgamemnon911
@TheAgamemnon911 5 жыл бұрын
Also depending on altitude and pollution level. But given that the raw brightness under ideal conditions would be like Sirius: Even with 50% atmospheric absorption, it would still be easily visible.
@deathsythelui
@deathsythelui 5 жыл бұрын
Jaw is legit floored open right now... I actually had _no idea_ that laser light could still be _that_ visible at _that_ range... Amazing.
@brianjuelpedersen6389
@brianjuelpedersen6389 5 жыл бұрын
Everything is better with lasers.
@cokeforever
@cokeforever 5 жыл бұрын
L.D. Johnson you do realize that 300-400km is not that much of a range?)) and you do see photons arriving from the Sun, right?)
@Worhan
@Worhan 5 жыл бұрын
ditto
@ilikelefunymemes2828
@ilikelefunymemes2828 5 жыл бұрын
S C I think the sun produces a bit more than 5mw of visible light. xD Srsly tho its amazing how little power is needed to transmit information across such distance. I dont know how much energy you would need to do the same with a radio but I assume a lot more and also you’d probably need a big antena on both ends.
@radioactive9861
@radioactive9861 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Scott, keep making them!
@jasonplant5432
@jasonplant5432 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely dig your channel scott. thank you
@planetrob555
@planetrob555 5 жыл бұрын
This is so cool...so much more than I can put into words. This represents something that just makes me feel euphoric. I don't think I can explain it in a way that most people would understand, but that video Scott links is incredible. Long distance communication, with something that maybe ought not work is fabulous. I can't explain it correctly. It's just......so cool.
@zachburke8906
@zachburke8906 5 жыл бұрын
So you are saying I need to make an arduino space station tracker, then add a 1 watt laser and make it blink in Morse code to an email account in hopes they will send me a message? Sounds like a plan.
@ezzeddinhgden1638
@ezzeddinhgden1638 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on hitting 1 million subscribers, my friend! You truly are a youtube legend in my Eyes, your content is Always ON POINT!
@elsea8901
@elsea8901 4 жыл бұрын
I always wondered this. Thank you!
@dylankouts8241
@dylankouts8241 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the coolest videos I've seen in a while
@erichopper4979
@erichopper4979 5 жыл бұрын
There was an exploit on network equipment where you could read the data off of 10Mbit (or maybe it was 100MBit) Ethernet by pointing a sensor at the flickering light on the equipment display because they had hooked that light more or less directly up to the signal line. That was pretty nifty. If you could modulate the light from a laser pointer at high speed, it would be interesting to see what the bandwidth limit was. And that might have applications elsewhere. Space probes might be able to aim at earth accurately enough to use a direct line-of-sight laser for communication, and you could put one on them that had much lower beam divergence. Bandwidth to space probes is kind of limited. But that might be a way to increase it.
@Verpal
@Verpal 5 жыл бұрын
Seen ppl did that hardware magic before, it is not ok for daily usage though, since the frame we loss is atrocious.
@Ev-wj3lm
@Ev-wj3lm Жыл бұрын
Laser communication exists and is mainly used for communication between satellites (starlink for example uses it)
@youtubecensorseverythingIsay
@youtubecensorseverythingIsay 4 жыл бұрын
When you want to play with an alien cat
@manirkm1
@manirkm1 4 жыл бұрын
You didn't consider one important factor: atmospheric attenuation. Lot of photons will be absorbed by air and moisture. Correct?
@Nill757
@Nill757 4 жыл бұрын
Manimozhian Kandasamy correct
@deltastrike9312
@deltastrike9312 4 жыл бұрын
I know right
@floatingchimney
@floatingchimney 4 жыл бұрын
@ Manimozhian Kandasam, Exactly, atmosphere is the reason we see stars as freckles of light, something visibly "twinkling", instead of pure dots of light (which they are), or in worst case the atmosphere totally obstructs any light from the stars.
@UZI9MMAUTO
@UZI9MMAUTO 4 жыл бұрын
Even with all of that it can be seen. In fact- the 'space freaks' use a laser to deflect a laser off of the moon. As their are multiple mirror deflectors on the moon. Not you standard over the counter ones. These are bored people with money to spend. They can return and their laser sent up even though brief. So yes- it is more than plausible cause the ISS is nowhere near the distance of the moon. They can see traffic, lights, fires, with no real equipment from the ISS. Ham Operators make contact with them on the ISS with no beam as they pass over. Which is on the 100-400mhz bands. HF would have a dopplar effect and make contact even MORE likely. VHF/UHF has almost no propagation so with that being said. It would take a fixed laser to hit the space station. Take 500 feet of thread and make it straight between the 2. Then move the start of the thread 1/16th of a inch and see how far it misses at the end. By hand it would be VERY hard to hit and maintain. A fixed one with a telescope inline would work and be seen by the crew as well. There is footage of lasers hitting the ISS actually. Green one but of unknown power and focus.
@TheBalefire
@TheBalefire 4 жыл бұрын
Attenuation is not nearly as big a deal from the ground up as it is from space down, owing to the distance from the object that the intervening air is located at. There is another video on this, something like, what would pictures look like if you used hubble to take pictures of the ground.
@jahanthegenie1261
@jahanthegenie1261 5 жыл бұрын
2 videos this quickly? Wow.
@lajoswinkler
@lajoswinkler 5 жыл бұрын
Thing is, cheap lasers for showing things in the sky are usually around 20 mW. San Antonio group did a 1 W laser. Yes, blue and therefore visually dimmer, but 1 W. That's some insane power for a handheld laser.
@1234garrett1993
@1234garrett1993 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's not too insane though. You can get up to 6w handheld lasers online from places like pyrocreations. I've got the 3 watt and its pretty awesome, a lot brighter than my old 1w and 2w wicked lasers.
@tittyfarm
@tittyfarm 5 жыл бұрын
You can buy all the components and put one together for pretty cheap. My 1.8 watt handheld was around $140.
@1234garrett1993
@1234garrett1993 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah you really need to wear glasses for anything over 500mw no matter how careful you are being. That's just what I do though, you should probably wear glasses with any laser over 5mw but where's the fun in that lol
@kerbygator
@kerbygator 5 жыл бұрын
I bought one on Ebay that'll light your cigarette or yer doobage no probby.
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 2 жыл бұрын
Standard
@billturner4427
@billturner4427 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, Scott. Thank you. I use a green laser pointer in my back yard with my telescopes. I live within a mile of a regional airport and simply don't use it when aircraft are around.
@scottfranco1962
@scottfranco1962 3 жыл бұрын
As a light plane pilot, I have been lit up several times while landing. It appears as a very bright spot off to the side while flying. There is really only one thing that could cause that. Its only mildly annoying, but I also know there are much more powerful lasers out there you could buy.
@Mbrace818
@Mbrace818 2 жыл бұрын
Was it a red one?
@norm1124
@norm1124 5 жыл бұрын
Now invert the idea and imagine how powerful the stars visible at earth are Just amazing !!
@warp00009
@warp00009 5 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I visited Walt Disney World (1998), they used a very powerful laser as part of their evening fireworks display. This amazingly bright thing was turned on only for a couple of seconds at a time, but was so bright that it "wrapped the horizon" from the perspective of the audience each time they activated it. My impression was that if it had hit an aircraft in flight, it probably would have blinded the flight crew for some indefinite period - as it was very bright. The next times I went back (2000, 2009), this super bright laser was no longer part of the fireworks show - which was probably a good thing, so it couldn't accidentally knock airplanes out of the sky if it happened to hit one.
@kim4rius
@kim4rius Жыл бұрын
When using lasers at that scale, and pointing it to the sky like that, you’ve talked with the nearby airports and/or the FAA beforehand to get it cleared. Those lasers can be up to 60W, so if the beam hits a pilot correctly, they could get permanent eye damage in under a second. Using lasers in 1998 required high voltage, water cooling, advanced software, and a lot of space, so they most likely dropped it because it was a hassle. I know this comment is 4 years old as of now, but felt like giving you an answer, haha.
@MsZiomallo
@MsZiomallo 4 ай бұрын
And now it's even cheaper since you don't have to talk to FAA, just fire up Flightradar24 and watch out for planes lol
@mister_plzzz9114
@mister_plzzz9114 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why I really needed to know this but searched for it and you answered it perfectly, thanks!
@ChatGPT1111
@ChatGPT1111 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of an interesting subject Scott, thanks!
@mesflyer
@mesflyer 5 жыл бұрын
A few months ago I was looking out the passenger window on a night flight at 39000 feet, and someone on the ground started pointing a green laser at the airplane. At that altitude it was not near enough to blind or incapacitate but I was surprised how obvious it was what someone on the ground was doing even that high up.
@toolhog10
@toolhog10 5 жыл бұрын
The practical engineering channel had a project called International space station tracker. It is a cool little project to make a machine that always points directly at the space station. I wonder how accurate that would be with a laser mounted on the arm.
@sushmaverma3562
@sushmaverma3562 5 жыл бұрын
Lol add styropyros laser bazooka
@TheNormanmurk
@TheNormanmurk 5 жыл бұрын
This was so awesome Scott, I only wish I had some dorky friends to share my excitement with. It's hard being more forward thinking than everyone you know.
@peterkinge4461
@peterkinge4461 4 жыл бұрын
Very well explained, thanks for posting!
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 4 жыл бұрын
I can see this becoming more popular and the ISS being bombarded with green lasers, the cat is out of the bag.
@ferce889
@ferce889 4 жыл бұрын
6:50 6 minutes and 50 seconds to get a definitive yes XD
@TQGraham11
@TQGraham11 4 жыл бұрын
Lol ikr! Stop babbling and get to the point!
@iflyxwings
@iflyxwings 4 жыл бұрын
@@TQGraham11 boo hoo
@TQGraham11
@TQGraham11 4 жыл бұрын
Josh 😭 😢 😭:( :( 😖😖😖😭😭😭😤😤😔😢😢😭😭
@iflyxwings
@iflyxwings 4 жыл бұрын
@@TQGraham11 you already said that, cutie pie
@nolan9101
@nolan9101 4 жыл бұрын
Tony Graham why would you watch a video on this topic if you weren’t looking for an explanation? If you were looking for a yes or a no, a simple google search would have sufficed- not an eight minute long video. This isn’t a tutorial with two minutes of irrelevant babbling at the start, it’s an explanation of something.
@arthurvin2937
@arthurvin2937 5 жыл бұрын
Can I zoom radio satellite or television with telescope at higher orbits presumably it should stay static to where I zoom in since it orbits same direction earth rotates right?
@dpgt3478
@dpgt3478 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why but I literally felt like I could listen to this guy talk all day lol. Nice delivery and very interesting
@jeroenstrompf5064
@jeroenstrompf5064 5 жыл бұрын
I see "Numerical Recipes" on the bookshelf! I loved that book
@BigislandEJ
@BigislandEJ 4 жыл бұрын
I used to shoot womp rats with my t16 back home so nailing that space station with a green Lazer should be easy....
@GaryNumeroUno
@GaryNumeroUno 4 жыл бұрын
@Mag yep... you need to turn on the targeting computer!
@pintobean4919
@pintobean4919 4 жыл бұрын
Aww nothing like an old Luke Skywalker line from the movie Star Wars to make a joke! Good job, I like it! 🤣🤣🤣
@screwgun-uf1nf
@screwgun-uf1nf 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff somersby yeah i used to shoot ants with a tank back in the old country
@Carolina_Luke
@Carolina_Luke 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can confirm this happened with me. Naturally, all Lukes born are excellent aimers. Well, besides when I am using my telescope but that is because it has a cheap mount. I suppose the answer at the end of the day is you get what you pay for.... :(
@lennartsix6102
@lennartsix6102 3 жыл бұрын
Stay on target
@jamesbonanno3359
@jamesbonanno3359 5 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done! Kept my interest throughout the whole video.
@destinram
@destinram 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Scot
@macdjord
@macdjord 3 жыл бұрын
Now I want an SF story where people on a blockaded planet communicate with allies in orbit using morse code and a laser pointer...
@noremorsewoodworking2258
@noremorsewoodworking2258 2 жыл бұрын
Start writing it.....
@satyris410
@satyris410 5 жыл бұрын
don't your calculations assume the photons are traveling through a vacuum? and thus would the atmospheric interference impede the laser light?
@dwightmagnuson4298
@dwightmagnuson4298 4 жыл бұрын
Scatter the light as it is refracting off trillions of dust particles and water molecules...
@dirtrider88
@dirtrider88 Жыл бұрын
5:23 that was an amazing shot. thank you for slowing it down and zooming in
@misterfonix
@misterfonix 4 жыл бұрын
the video of the space station passing over the sun is the coolest video I've seen all week
@andrewelliott8084
@andrewelliott8084 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Imperial Assault Carrier on the top shelf. It needs some TIE fighters in the docking pylons though. ;-)
@pyrrhicwins5101
@pyrrhicwins5101 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Elliott That's what that is...
@andrewelliott8084
@andrewelliott8084 5 жыл бұрын
Pyrrhic Wins "that's what that is" what? TIE fighters attached to the pylon. It carries 4.
@pyrrhicwins5101
@pyrrhicwins5101 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Elliott Hmm, I had been trying to find out what ship that was until I saw your comment.
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 5 жыл бұрын
When a star party inadvertantly started an interstellar war. 😛
@BTFOOMNY
@BTFOOMNY 4 жыл бұрын
those guys with the boards accidentally sent a bad word about the orange haired Martian president's wife.
@billroberts9182
@billroberts9182 5 жыл бұрын
I have a small green light laser that is suppose to extend 20 miles thru the atmosphere- specifically for search and rescue. I would point it at an aircraft or boat if I was trying to get help in an emergency situation. As a field geologist I used to use a mirror to flash sunlight at the helicopter still several miles away. It worked very effectively (this was pre gps and pre walkie talkie).
@jeffclark5268
@jeffclark5268 6 ай бұрын
You were trying to signal a helicopter pre walkie talkie? Did the helicopter have a flux capacitor and topped out at 88mph or you just didn’t know radios existed well before helicopters?
@dennyoconnor8680
@dennyoconnor8680 Ай бұрын
Scott, years back I was landing at KHYX at night. At the missed approach point, at 200 feet and a half mile out I noticed a car on the taxiway at the approach end of the runway. At that instant I got hit with a laser and lost all my vision. I was blind. Knowing that changing power or making any control inputs would cause the aircraft to become unstable I simply held the controls where they were and waited to impact the ground in a wings level, controlled descent rate (~300 fpm) At the last instant I saw a faint glow from a runway light in the lower corner of my right eye and flared. The arrival was firm but not violent. My wife had been looking away towards the lights of town still had her vision and she verbally steered us to the taxiway and back to the ramp. By then I was beginning to see faintly and I jumped out of the plane and was going looking for the drunk (probably) idiots. The wife physically held on to me as she knew what I intended to do. At a star party the young guys were firing a camera strobe light into the eyepiece of a 10" newtonian reflector. The bullets of light going up into space were mesmerizing. Dr. O
@SimonClarkstone
@SimonClarkstone 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention by how much you would need to lead the target. From my estimates I chose a 1200km round trip which is 4ms, and the station is going ~8km/s so you must lead by ~32m, which is much less than the beam diameter you calculated for that range. So that's not a problem either. Light is also refracted by the atmosphere but this effect basically cancels out if you are aiming visually at the ISS because optics works about the same backwards and forwards.
@najeyrifai1134
@najeyrifai1134 5 жыл бұрын
Took the words right out of my mouth, and you took the time to calculate it! Well done sir!
@morpius-nwo7385
@morpius-nwo7385 4 жыл бұрын
someone gets it yes sir! exactly, this is a year old ...if you see this? read my comment it's last one im sure lol
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't forget to mention it. It is simply irrelevant. He also didn't mention correcting for time dilation either and for the same reason.
@Jeremy101Jeremiah
@Jeremy101Jeremiah 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly , didnt think the answer would be yes.
@wjnahuy
@wjnahuy 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Scott Manley your vids are pretty real.
@RaysAstrophotography
@RaysAstrophotography 5 жыл бұрын
Scott, great explanation. Thanks
@rishabhkumardjain
@rishabhkumardjain 5 жыл бұрын
The astronauts experienced time travel, they saw 1.67 ms in the past😂😂😂
@cmpe43
@cmpe43 5 жыл бұрын
I was very impressed with the space station against the sun!
@noka1979
@noka1979 5 жыл бұрын
Something i often wondered, thank you Scott, i remember my kids having a little cheap red laser, i blew their minds with a 5Mw green laser which we could see on the high clouds in the night sky
@bitonic589
@bitonic589 Жыл бұрын
Lies. There's no such thing as a 5,000,000 watt laser. Your kids would be dead from a laser with millions of watts of power.
@shortchanged.
@shortchanged. 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video ,I often wondered about that
@paulkerman8906
@paulkerman8906 5 жыл бұрын
As a pilot myself, thanks for emphasizing the danger of lasers to aircraft. I have been subjected to a laser illumination event, and I can tell you that if I hadn't covered my eyes as quickly as I had, I may have had permanent eye damage. As it was, I was able to land safely, but I will never forget the experience.
@tittyfarm
@tittyfarm 5 жыл бұрын
How high off the ground were you?
@paulkerman8906
@paulkerman8906 5 жыл бұрын
I was about 2000 feet above the ground climbing out after doing a touch and go in Ponca City, OK
@ClaudiuB
@ClaudiuB 5 жыл бұрын
+Paul Kerman (Kerbonaut) hey there, I was wondering if you are at the maximum cruising altitude of 10.000 meters, and I point the laser in front of the airplane, let's say, 50 meters in front of it, and move it along as the airplane moves, would you be able to see it? If there would be some clouds I suppose you could, but if there wouldn't be?
@paulkerman8906
@paulkerman8906 5 жыл бұрын
This is the same scenario as the above video, just on a smaller scale. Again, aiming lasers at aircraft is NEVER a good idea.
@IanCaine4728
@IanCaine4728 5 жыл бұрын
Laser incidents seem to happen most near airports, and subsequently, critical phases of flight. A flight crew in the heaviest workload of the flight just doesn't need any surprises or distractions.
@cjbants17
@cjbants17 4 жыл бұрын
7:35 if you just want the answer
@krapeevids6992
@krapeevids6992 4 жыл бұрын
CJ Bants-THANK YOU
@ianellis1393
@ianellis1393 4 жыл бұрын
He was killing me 🥱......thanks
@randomvids4755
@randomvids4755 4 жыл бұрын
thanks
@angelfigueroa310
@angelfigueroa310 4 жыл бұрын
CJ Bants thanks
@FTroop37F
@FTroop37F 4 жыл бұрын
Light is now being tested for broadband communications to/from space. Look at the "OPALS" project here on KZfaq.
@matthew2000tx
@matthew2000tx 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for featuring then Flash the station Project of which I was a part of.
@Cydonius1
@Cydonius1 5 жыл бұрын
Don't aim a laser at some satellite that might be able to respond in kind but with 1000x the power ..
@kahlzun
@kahlzun 5 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyus_(spacecraft)
@paulweaver5624
@paulweaver5624 5 жыл бұрын
That's OK, I only aim at small moons
@phalanx3803
@phalanx3803 5 жыл бұрын
just make sure its a moon
@fiveoneecho
@fiveoneecho 5 жыл бұрын
My small moon aims it laser at MC-80s....
@aarongreenfield9038
@aarongreenfield9038 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Weaver. That's no moon, it's a space station!
@TehSmokeyMan
@TehSmokeyMan 5 жыл бұрын
NASA uses lasers to track the moon (lasers and retro-reflectors on the moons surface) so surely we could annoy the ISS with a bright enough laser... Thanks for confirming that... :)
@geometricart7851
@geometricart7851 4 жыл бұрын
the beam width by the time it hits the moon is around 4 miles wide...now do the math you'll see not many photons hit their laser ranging devices on the surface of the moon.
@ronjones4069
@ronjones4069 4 жыл бұрын
I modulated a cheap red laser pointer and used it to communicate with audio over a more than 100 mile path. The laser light from this cheap laser pointer was easily seen with our unaided eyes over thisc100+ mile pathm This also was through far more air and dust than between us and the ISS. It was hard to point it and we didn't have a moving target, but once on target, it was an easy path.
@glennkrieger
@glennkrieger 5 жыл бұрын
There is one small caveat to all of this. Those in the Western USA have relatively low humidity, clear skies much of the time. Not so much here in the Midwest, especially in the summer. Refraction of light due to air particulates, including humidity, could significantly scatter those photons enough to make seeing a laser light much more difficult from space.
@YoungEducationUSA
@YoungEducationUSA 5 жыл бұрын
9 minutes on a yes or no question, but still thanks for answering 🙃
@thevampire6065
@thevampire6065 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a yes or no question just a simple yes or no doesn't really tell you anything does it
@pluto8404
@pluto8404 5 жыл бұрын
Have we been blinding extraterrestrial air planes this whole time?
@fernandolordao2
@fernandolordao2 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! What splendid explanation!
@diabolicalsaiyan8743
@diabolicalsaiyan8743 4 жыл бұрын
*Your video of the space station moving In front of the sun was amazing*
@corwinchristensen260
@corwinchristensen260 5 жыл бұрын
If I recall correctly, it seems that one of the Apollo 11 astronauts commented during their time on the moon that they suspect that they caught a glimpse of a high power laser that was trying to detect the retro-reflector that they had placed on the surface. I did take a college lab where we measured the distance from our location to both the Apollo 11 and Apollo 14 retro-reflectors, but we were using a pulsed UV laser that was several watts in strength (I don't remember exactly ... seems like 3W.) It is interesting to think that if our experiment would have been in the visible spectrum, it may have been visible from the Moon.
@vansfpv5198
@vansfpv5198 5 жыл бұрын
Corwin Christensen the first laser was actually bounced off the moon on May 9, in 1962 by MIT. Wait, What? 2629 days before man first set up the retro reflector on the moon to prove the NASA/"Mankind" was actually there. Kinda like those cameras in space that's always takes images of satellites and voyagers travelling through space.
@michaelgentry8551
@michaelgentry8551 5 жыл бұрын
@@vansfpv5198 Are you stupid? They were measuring their own light that they knew the wavelength of from a reflective body in space. The Moon always reflects the Sun, so if you set up your own laser and measure how much light comes back how is that unfeasible?
@fahadus
@fahadus 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard that before, but I have heard that Buzz Aldrin saw flashes which he didn't understand at the time, turned out to be cosmic rays.
@Zywl
@Zywl 5 жыл бұрын
so, a 5mw laser would be as bright as sirius, how would a 100 or 1000mw laser look like?
@yshwgth
@yshwgth 5 жыл бұрын
Brighter.
@Zywl
@Zywl 5 жыл бұрын
lol, you are technically correct. I was wondering how much.
@OnionChoppingNinja
@OnionChoppingNinja 5 жыл бұрын
Ask the people of Alderaan. Wait, you can't... they're dead.
@kyousey
@kyousey 5 жыл бұрын
You're talking about weapons now, not just a laser pointer anymore.
@QuietElite
@QuietElite 5 жыл бұрын
Rocket scientist: NEED MOAR BOASTERS !!! Physicist: NEED MOAR POAWER !!!
@beneidem369
@beneidem369 5 жыл бұрын
I know several people who've been lazed while flying an airplane. some weren't affected, but most had vision loss between a couple seconds and a several minutes. We even had to shut down flight operations to an airport after a pilot needed medical eye treatment due to a laser. Scott is right. Don't shine lasers at aircraft. Not only is it extremely dangerous to the flight crew, but if caught, you could face hefty fines and prison time. Also, it's really easy to fly over your position, get Lat/Long coordinates, and call the cops.
@stevegardnermax
@stevegardnermax 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent, precise and highly informative video. Good topic and easy to understand.
@Miata822
@Miata822 5 жыл бұрын
Pointing lasers at aircraft is not only a "bad idea," it is a federal offence that could land you in federal prison {no time off for "good behavior"), loose your right to vote, travel internationally, ever posses a firearm, or likely ever have a real job. Many Ebay or Alibaba lasers have power beyond legal limits. pointing one drunkenly at, for instance. a police helicopter, could change the arc of your life as dramatically as being busted as a meth dealer. Keep that in mind. The cops do.
@TheBest_F-22
@TheBest_F-22 5 жыл бұрын
Alberto Knox Just being the devil's advocate here: "What is a 'Federal Offence' or a 'Federal Prison' or 'time off for good behavior'?" Don't assume KZfaq is watched only/mainly by "USA" residents... Specially Science/Space Videos!. Just say "it's against the Law in the U.S.A." or something... Also: There's many more Countries with Laws against even Owning a Firearm than any Law against what You point Your Laser at (besides airplanes near airports - the most dangerous part of air travel is always taking off or landing) and even less against Owning a Laser Pointer. (One is actually used to kill things, the other one is just a "health hazard" ABOVE certain power levels, mostly to their owners who use it more, and an "annoyance" BELOW them - though MOST people who buy Stronger Lasers are Science minded people that would be careful to, at least, not inconvenience anyone with what they do, much less pointing it to aircraft On Purpose...) BTW: Most prisons in the World are part of "Public infrastructure" which means they're owned by the Countries' Government. Doesn't even make sense to have Privately Owned Prisons really... Specially when it's the Government, its Laws and its Judicial System that Puts people in them and, normally, only for serious Crimes that are actually considered dangerous to the Society/Population/Country... (Who wants to waste money on unnecessary things?...) And NO: Most Countries will NOT give any Less time in prison due to "Good Behavior"... But they WILL increase a Prison Sentence for (any) "Bad Conduit"... Bye then.
@Miata822
@Miata822 5 жыл бұрын
You're in the UK, right? You can spend 5 years in your "public infrastructure" for pointing a laser at any vehicle. That is only if you aren't charged with terrorism, which has in fact happened in your country.
@fiveoneecho
@fiveoneecho 5 жыл бұрын
These are good things to keep in mind, but also, as a pilot myself, since these thing often happen on approach, where you are looking at the ground in front of you, imagine trying to guide a big object that’s often being blown around by wind at a target only a few meters across while having big black spots burned into your vision. Just don’t shine lasers at aircraft people.
@jasonwood6881
@jasonwood6881 5 жыл бұрын
that's if they don't just flat out shoot them dead for "threatening" them
@Little_Miss_Carrex
@Little_Miss_Carrex 5 жыл бұрын
Bill Kerr In the nethelands those high powered green laser pointers have been banned after a plane got blinded by one of them
@nishantthakur3122
@nishantthakur3122 4 жыл бұрын
Cheap laser: $10, wow Wait, robotic aram: $1000000
@MrKoval-nm9ky
@MrKoval-nm9ky 4 жыл бұрын
I have bought laser for 3$, so the laser is even cheaper :P
@Astrofrank
@Astrofrank 2 жыл бұрын
A nice GoTo telescope mount with satellite tracking ability shouldn't be that expensive.
@suki4410
@suki4410 11 ай бұрын
Very informative! Thank you!
@JMosUndefeated
@JMosUndefeated 5 жыл бұрын
As always another great video.
@creepjax
@creepjax 5 жыл бұрын
*The ISS wants to know your location*
@Cammi_Rosalie
@Cammi_Rosalie 4 жыл бұрын
Easy. Right there at the green dot on the ground.
@TheBeteljuice
@TheBeteljuice 5 жыл бұрын
In college, my laser instructor Professor Jerry Hathaway tricked me and my classmate, Chris Knight, into building a laser weapon for the U.S. Air Force. By the time we found out, the laser had been mounted to a B1 Bomber. Fortunately, Lazlo Hollyfeld, the genius who lived in the walls figured out a way to fill Prof. Hathaways house with popcorn, so we aimed the laser there. As we watched Prof. Hathaways house burst from popcorn expansion, we froliced in the buttery treat in slow motion, accompanied by some moving 80's pop music (everybody, after all, wants to rule the world.). Sincerely; Mitch Taylor.
@scottmanley
@scottmanley 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen the video evidence supporting this moment of real genius.
@silvergtotwinturbo9984
@silvergtotwinturbo9984 5 жыл бұрын
Link????
@timothystark4475
@timothystark4475 5 жыл бұрын
I remember that movie - Real Genius!
@j_soo
@j_soo 5 жыл бұрын
Sir have you have had any interactions with uhh _marijuana_
@cattflap1447
@cattflap1447 5 жыл бұрын
And by the look of him now Val Kilmer ate all the popcorn afterwards.
@matthewmiller6068
@matthewmiller6068 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to have one of those tracking things you talked about to keep a Yagi pointed at the ISS during their SSTV events (incidentally one is coming up this week I hear)
@EpicSpaceflight
@EpicSpaceflight 3 жыл бұрын
I was present at that San Antonio Astronomy Association event and the blue laser was not robotically tracked but had a human operator on a mount to help it glide. There were no motors but was human powered.
@ssandro4897
@ssandro4897 4 жыл бұрын
Where has his launch abort tower gon on his Saturn v?
@zockertwins
@zockertwins 5 жыл бұрын
won't some photons also be absorbed by air molecules ?
@cokeforever
@cokeforever 5 жыл бұрын
ZockerTwins no?) does your skin 'absorb' light? So woould yoy be invisible while tanning?))) you just have different reflectivity and so does air )
@hopp2184
@hopp2184 5 жыл бұрын
S C No he is correct, the electrons in oxygens atoms can absorb photons and reach an excited state
@zockertwins
@zockertwins 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah and when those excited electrons fall back into their normal energy level, the release a new photon in a different direction, which will never end up in the space station.
@najsbajsmedmajs
@najsbajsmedmajs 5 жыл бұрын
The sun strength is about 1.36 kW/m2 right before hitting the atmosphere, and drops down to 1 kW/m2 after passing through the atmosphere, so assuming a similar absorption rate for the laser wavelength as the sun's total irradiance, only about 1/4 of the laser light would be absorbed.
@zockertwins
@zockertwins 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the answer :)
@DomBurgess
@DomBurgess 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, I've always wondered this.
@thelwq
@thelwq 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I have had not such idea till now - sound interesting! But anyway - what about interface between atmosphere and the space? It would dissolve or somehow damage the beam?
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