Sorry bud.

😂

​@@deanwilliams5941I'm not your buddy, pal.

​@@johnymey4034he's not your pal. Ol sport

Couldn't say it better

Looking at the manning issue from the outside looks from the outside like the junior enlisted got tired of being screwed over and left leaving the CAF without an NCO corps. Is that the feeling or am I way off base?

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I served with Canadians in Afghanistan in 2008. Y’all are great dudes. Absolute pros

@@Ve-om7lf Canadian recruitment is terrible in general, pair that with a generation that didnt want to enroll just to be sent on "peacekeeping" missions in the middle east, military not paying well enough on entry when I looked at joining and the fact that most Canadians know that the military is underfunded.

Thank you for your service. Thank you for your sacrifice.

I've heard that the forces are also recently very top-heavy (generals, admirals without a clearly needed 'role' for them...?)

@@falsfire Sort of but not really, with low recruitment, consolidating units and amalgamation of trades to save costs they just don't have the need for as much upper command but in the big picture you don't want to force out all your experienced command structure. Also some are not getting out like they use to or how it was structured to work, the advancement path was designed for people to cycle though in 3to6/20/25 year career cycles with only high demand special cases getting extended to 30-35 years. These days they just don't retire to make room for new blood.

Worse than the UK????? My, my.....

@@GH-tp6vu Yup, every time a different party gets elected they cancel the defense purchases of the previous government claiming they were poorly negotiated or just a bad deal. Sometimes the penalty for canceling the contract costs as much as what the program would have cost. EH101, F35, Roll-on-roll-off AOR replacements, Subs etc. The list could cover decades

The bureaucracy issue is just emblemic of our whole government structure. At all levels.

Will do my best! Hope things work out as best as possible for you and your unit.

Hi there, I just retired after 21 years. First, thank you for carrying the torch into the next era. Second, these issues have been going on since I joined. It just seems that the government is now at the point of no return to fix these issues. Good luck.

@@BattleDamageProps Thank you for your service! I still go to my duty with positive heart and intentions, Canada in heart and to serve and protect her with whatever I have got.

ill try to pay my rent first :D

If you have enough golfers that might actually be money well spent. In my friend group (as a non golfer) I know 15 or so that would regularly use that if it was available. The ones that would use something in a hobby I enjoy is like 3… so that might not be as bad as it looks initially

@@kyleslater5245 It's being kept in a room that has 3 holes in the roof that regularly leak.

@@MichaelSmith-ij2ut Wow. Hugs.

Are you serious?

meh. $50,000 that's what two hours of flight and maintenance time for a F-35?

Putin is shaking Europe, not Trump with his 2% empty rethoric. Luxembourg having a 2.5% of his GDP in defense doesn't mean anything superior to the fact that let's say France, an independent nuclear power with good military tools for an euro country only use 1.9%. As usual is just for the show, with Trump, to look a tough negotiator. Putin is the real NATO savior, even Sweden and Finland are in, something that was impossible in the Cold War. Entire lines of production are being resurrected thanks to him. And everybody enjoyed the ''peace dividends'' from the end of the Cold War. Another thing is Canada not having even a serious navy to defend their gigantic EEZ in the far north and the Artic.That's borderline idiotic.

Fair point

I mean essentially From the 1950s till the 1990s We essentially always had a larger military fundi bf then we needed So we’ve just been letting it wither slowly But 2000 hit We ran out of fat Fought the war on terror And now it’s ??? Screwed As with all things in like man if we’d only given Paul Martin four more years

He nation of Canada put a Field Army on the ground in Europe in WWII. What happened between then and now? Socialism..... Their economy can't afford defense and a hemorrhaging socialized medicine system that under- performs a bit more every year.

@@ShmuckCanuck or given Jack Layton the Prime Minister role. Giving Harper an extra term basically doomed this country, and now he gets a third term, because we all know Pierre is too stupid to govern on his own.

Well said. Also, everyone who says "I'll join up when Canada is attacked" doesn't realize that by that point it is already far too late.

Well said! Head of the nail has been accurately hit. I WILL say that your spot-on description of the current younger demographic as ‘why should I?’ is not something new. There are a lot of people in this country, (although in the minority I think/hope), who couldn’t care less about the significance the CAF consistently makes for Canada, locally and internationally. We’ve always punched above our weight. But there are even some who didn’t even know Canada HAD a military let alone what it does. I blame this on 2 things: 1) Canadians have been lulled into this false sense of security. They’ve generally enjoyed living in a country with relative peace and harmony since Canada was last invaded by foreign entities in 1812. (And aren’t we lucky to have had that luxury!) There’s never really been any fear or anxiety wrt being attacked because, “Who would want to do that to Canada? And even if they did, we have the superpower might of the US military to protect us!” Now I am in no way wishing for us to be attacked but I think you’ll agree that there exists today a very real and plausible threat. And to have to rely heavily on the US military is not feasible and given recent political mess they find themselves in congressionally, probably not entirely wise. 2) To a lesser extent but no less significant, the CAF has done an absolute abysmal job of informing /promoting the Forces to the Canadian public. This job is now even tougher as they try to deal with the fallout of the list of rapes/sexual assaults committed by some high level brass that have come to light. Couple that with trying to change the CAF culture of sexual harassment and abuse and it’s damn near impossible to recruit anyone who’s watched the news or had surfed the web in the last 5 years. I don’t know what the answer is either, but a good start would be the governments (blue, red, orange; it doesn’t matter), to stop cutting military budgets and start to take a significant and realistic vested interest in the defence of this country. Thank you for your service. 🇨🇦 Ready Aye Ready ⚓️

​@@OoavastoOThe only place I've seen them advertise is at local comic cons, and I can't think of a worse demographic to throw flyers at, lol.

The problem is the only foreign power that has ever attacked us with the intent is the one our leaders now worry about "disappointing". (The same one all our toxic politics comes from.) I welcome the idea of a Canada that can defend itself better, but that goes hand in hand with defending OUR interests and territory, not to defend someone else's lunatic ideas of global supremacy. Call me a nationalist, or loyalist (not a "patriot" thank you very much), but if we're not making up our own minds on strategic / military matters, we're already a dead, conquered nation. They might do better at getting funds and recruiting too, if the public had the sense it was always for Canada, not some bass-ackwards agenda where we tailor what we buy purchase armaments and spend our blood helping someone else project power to advance their interests. I'm not talking about isolationism, just independence of decision making, being our own masters first, and getting involved in alliance causes & expeditionary conflicts second. The warriors of the Canadian Forces generally get respect for their competence, professionalism, and bravery. But none of that depends on having the approval or disapproval of allies, I have yet to see politicians in my adult life who understood any of this. They live in a world of stereotypes, alarmism, and campaign optics. Their policies seem to be the product of myths rather than reality - competing myths to be sure, but that competition seems to hold Canada back from every taking its own strategic needs seriously, or fixing the procurement system so it's not a permanent example of how not to decide, design, and build capabilites. All government spending is a choice, a setting of priorities, and survival really is at stake, in so many different ways.If society does not collectively make sacrifices towards these goals, that means gutting something else important to pay for it. It's measured in other things not built, other lives not saved, other future planning we'll fail at. Therefore, it is hard to argue in favour of funding a system that always seem broken and threatens to piss away enormous sums of money for causes which might not even be our own. That is why the political resistance is just as strong as the desire for a more capable military; until "they" who hold power up above clean up their act, it is likely to remain so.

I also think our immigration rate and multiculturalism has eroded the public's sense of patriotism and attachment to a source of natural pride like the forces. Very sad.

I concur.

We should be spending more on low cost artillery like the archer mobile artillery. Since Canada is so far away from the fight we'd be a perfect location for artillery shells production but we don't even try to increase these industries or allow Nati countries to fund startups

Yes :(

I was reading articles about it in the early 2000’s. We’ve known it for years.

Devil's advocate, but why should Canada spend more than it should? The geography IS the defence. As stated, they aren't reducing spending on things that they actually need that goes around this geography e.g. NORAD and aren't cutting budgets in things that are very good value / impact for the money, like special forces. Canada has every right to play the peace dividend that geography gives them. It makes geopolitical sense, particularly knowing any US president simply will not put the pressure on their northern neighbour like they would with Europe.

Thank you for your service.

There’s nothing great about your country anymore, man. Sorry to be the one to break it to you.

Our country sucks now so therefore the military will as well

Socialism has broken Canada, and we are next. The Russians will win because of our irresponsibility.

yeah canadians suck so the CAF sucks. If they recruited from another country that would be best

We can only get better when we accept the facts on the ground. We've been sniffing our own farts for decades. We have to get serious about national defence or we will wake up one fine day and realize we don't own it any more. And this is a socialist talking.

Exactly!

Thank you for your service. Do you have any input into how Canada can increase the size of it's military or what can Canada do to encourage enlistment, besides new fighter jets and naval ships and subs?

@franceyneireland1633 in my opinion, based on working in Personal as well as being a MARS officer, we need teams of service and conditions that mean when people are deployed, the have bedrock knowledge that their families are being looked after. We need a procurement policy that is financially sound as well as being effective to ensure the right kit gets to the right places/people at the right time. We have ALWAYS sucked at this in Canada. Some folks on this thread are lamenting the soft stuff of quality of life. I disagree. If you want people to pick up the unlimited liability clause, you have to pay them well, and ensure their families are supported. Our people are our best assets. We need to do a vastly better job of supporting them.

you sound like a redditor

@@franceyneireland1633 Big ticket purchaces are one thing. What we need to do is focus on quality of life and personnel support services. The old joke :"I love the effing Navy, and the Navy loves effing me" is based in hard bitter truth. The CF is slowly getting better, but serving personel AWA vets are treated like crap. Our vet suicide rates are up there with the US. We don't do enough to look after our people which are vastly more important than any kit purcace. That said, the procurement process is absurd. The Sea King helecopters I occasionally flew in in the late '90s were first purchaced in 1963. I knew guys who were flying the same air frames as their freaking granddad did. Subs: we spent over an entire officer's career from RMC to retirement tryying to replace them. It's a very unfunny joke. We have to streamline the process and take defence out from being a political football, and putting it in the realm of "EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS". As long as political parties get in pissing matchs over defence and don't take it seriously like health care, pensions, ect: functions of state that trancend politics, we will be locked in this circle-jerk.

I cannot agree enough.

100 % Canadian government move tell you it’s there to save money but then it costs way more and more money gets to go missing

Almost always, the tail (the procurement system) wags the dog (the CAF).

sum it up in 1 word.... Irving

As a Canadian, fuck the armed forces

We're very well defended. By natural geography. And if an actual world war breaks out that requires us to go save France and Holland's ass again then we'll be there with a full war time economy just like last time.

What do you mean? Canada is defended by the most powerful military in the world, the US Armed Forces!

Same

@@buffgarfield3231 Our success in WW1 was because we learned the lessons of the Boer War and invested in logistics and organization. Our WW2 effort the same. We don't just majically become an arsenal of democracy like turning on a switch. It requires careful planning and serious financial investment/committment. Next war will start fast, and you dance with the gal you brought. We need to invest now. Ramping up production takes at bare minimum, at LEAST 24 months. We simply don't have the time to be complacent. We need to do this now.

@@buffgarfield3231 buddy the days of a full war time economy is long gone. just look at the US, our economy crippled because gas raised a dollar. and it never recovered despite gas lowering a dollar. the only thing war could bring is more jobs and companies and excuse to raise prices due to false shortages and them never reducing the price. as what happened with the gas raising, then in fact, decreasing

this subject has been in the wide open all the long just no ones willing to do anything about treaudeau sold us and is perpeously leading canada to its grave

@@lozingitlegitCanadian defence spending has always been shit after Korea. The only time we do anything is during wartime like afghanistan

Would you still suggest joining the caf in today’s situation and is there anything important I should know about infantry or how it’s changed maybe

You spoke my very thoughts.

How are they having a Russia problem? They never had issues with them before.

@@GothPaoki We have had issues in the arctic with the Russians for decades.

@@organicwest really? You mean territorial disputes ?

Geography is our biggest problem and advantage. Tanks helicopters and artillery would be useless in defending Canada.

To put a fine point on it, no recent leadership has been interested in increasing funding. Whether Liberal or Conservative, it doesn't matter. And that's only part of the issue.

@@twiztedsynz To be fair that's because up until recently increasing military spending was a poison pill politically for any ruling party in Canada ever since we were pressured us into stopping the avro arrow program.

HLC fistbump

As an American, you can be forgiven for "leaning" on us. We are obviously ready to be belligerent at a moment's notice.

@@corvus1801 Oh absolutely. Because the Arrow was advanced enough it beat anything the US had and "That Just Would Not Do". Our PM at the time bowed to Kennedy so here we are. IMO he set precedent for Canada to be "subject to protection" from the US, instead of us standing on our own.

Since Putin's invasion of Ukraine, I swear it became one of my top priority. Sadly, that could mean voting for a party inspired my maga so I'm kindda fucked about that.

I tried, but they never took me.

​@mattd5240 things happen... but you put yourself out there which is admirable.

It's hard to recruit completely sober people for the military in a country where most of us smoke weed. 😂

Y'all are welcome here in the States. Governments are dogshit. Our Peoples are Family

I was about to join until I heard about the sexual assaults that female staff are exposed to. This generation will simply not accept abuse as the last.

@@metalheadlass9868 don't worry, Canadian miliary needs fighters, not desk workers

Take a lesson from Marines and french Legion it isnt hard earned requirements pushing people away. If you dont lower standards for women and make everything soft the men will show up to challenge themselves.

Beast is a bit of a stretch.

Just remember, it's the Geneva Convention, not the Geneva Suggestions.

Inflation is far more likely to kill us before a world war will if ever.

@@mr.brutus1369 only if you're historically illiterate.

step one tredue or whatever his name you all know what has to be done

Spoken like a true infanteer…

Buddy, there are shortages everywhere in the CAF. Our HQ is a lot top heavy, but to say we have too many support trades is just exposing your ignorance. You think the RCEME, Med Tech, or any other CSS trade is getting more money than combat arms? EVERYONE is hurting. From a guy that has done both combat arms and "REMF" work, I can appreciate the requirement for logistics.

War is a team sport. Amateurs discuss tactics. Professionals discuss logistics. W/O "REMFs, the sharp end dies. My first lesson as an XO was understanding the critical importance of the purple trades to combat effectivness. No one likes the head shed from the front lines, but when you've worked in the staff system, you get to understand how absoutly critical everything they do is to the success or failure of a military force. Without a staff system, we might as well be Sam Hughes fighting a quxiotic and very crude struggle. War requires professionalism to ensure good people don't die needlessly. You cannot do that without a competent staff and command system. Systems win wars - not individual bravery.

Maybe I should have been more precise, but in no way I include support trades, or purple trades in the REMF… I meant all HQ and Op Center people. The ones that get the medals but creates 12 layers of command in order to make a decision.

Ok - I agree with that. I think we're too tight now to have many chateau genetals, but having done a trick in NDHQ, there are a few folks who've been away from the coal face for too long. That said, they need to reorient and refocus. But any rebuild of DND will most certainly require investment in all aspects, especially command and control.

Our neighbors up north: talented at hockey, poutine, and apologizing.

apologize not for this but electing an absolute clown leader called Justiner Trudeau

@@extraordinarygamer937 Vast majority of the country votes him out, but the core of toronto and vancouver keep him in. But he will most likely be beaten out by the conservative leader in the next election.

sorry about all the apologies

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I mean... dependant for what? There is no viable threat to our homeland. There is no viable threat to our homeland in the foreseeable future. Most canadians don't want to be the world's police. Most canadians don't want to be fighting pointless wars for oil in all corners of the middle east... if there was a threat to our country canadians would feel different about the defense budget... but it's a defense budget, not an aggression budget... not a deterrent budget.... When your justifications for increasing our defense spending is "defending Taiwan from a Chinese invasion" why the fuck would canadians see the need?

@@dallasgauthier3543 1) You completely misunderstood my message. What I was saying is that we no longer have the capabilities to defend ourselves without help because our army is pitiful. If there's a war tomorrow, it's going to be a mess. Only 52% of our combat vehicles are unusable, and 50% of our warships are unusable. There's a shortage of ammunition, and our soldiers have to buy their own boots. There's a lack of 16,000 jobs in the military, and our vehicles, warships, and jets are completely outdated; some are old as hell, with our frigates alone being 40 years old. What I mean is that we shouldn't even expect to be helped by anyone. If we're dependent on USA's and Nato aid, what will happen if the USA and Nato? What would happen if our allies couldn't help us if we were attacked because they no longer have the military capabilities to do so after several battles? finally decides not to help us and they'd be better off dropping Upper Canada or all Canada because anyway, we're not even capable of protecting it ourselves? What will happen if our allies don't defend us because we're not worth protecting at the cost of all our allies being hit by nuclear bombs for having directly involved themselves and thus triggering a nuclear war What will happen if the NATO countries don't help us because we can't even manage to pay the 2% of GDP for the military budget in NATO? 2) The reasons that prove we're not out of danger and that any country could attack us: - For a long time now, Russia has been threatening us due to the numerous resources and new pathways with the melting ice in the Canadian Arctic. We must constantly have troops in the north to protect and assert our territory. - We're a country with an enormous amount of resources. We're one of the biggest energy powers. Canada is the 2nd largest energy producer and the 4th largest renewable energy producer. In Canada, 81% of energy is renewable, and in some provinces like Quebec, it's 99%. Canada's oil sands are the world's third-largest proven oil reserve. Additionally, we have the most freshwater in the world. We have a vast consumable marine biodiversity, and Canadian agriculture is one of the most productive and significant globally, particularly in terms of export. We're the 3rd country with the most trees. Canada is a major producer of zinc, iron ore, and copper. In Canada, about 30 mining operations are copper sources, a critical ore needed for clean technologies. Just for resources, any country could attack us. So, I'm telling you, in a potential world war or war, do you believe Canada could defend itself, and would and could our allies defend us? No.

@@darkerenjager4077 He seems like the type who believes the biggest threat to Canada is truckers critical of Trudeau. If Canada doesn't change it will be the Dodo of modern history. A nation too stupid and placid to survive.

@@darkerenjager4077 1) you're missing the point I think. Yes I agree with all the issues, but the commenter was saying that there is no chance of war for Canada, we don't have a situation where we might have to defend ourselves. But also, if our NATO allows are so beleaguered they can't help us, then we would also already be losing a war. And, unless America was facing a direct invasion which is really an impossibility, Canada will always be the more important front because it's in North America. 2) buy the same token, there is no other nation with the capacity to occupy the arctic. The only country both capability and with motive to ever threaten Canada is the US, particularly for the energy and water resources listed, and also if either country shifted into a less democratic or western state, and it's simply not reasonable to think 2% of GDP in defense spending is going to be relevant. Like fundamentally no country is going to cross the Pacific, invade over the Rockies, and set up complex pipeline and SAGD insitu bitumen extraction equipment. So it's either the one to the south where all the pipelines go (and who relys in the oil), or it's no one. As for Russia, it can't invade a Russian speaking country that was part of Russia for hundreds of years where all the infrastructure is designed for Russian equipment and the population speaks Russian. Which isn't part of NATO. Their single aircraft carrier regularly breaks down and has a designated tow boat. I mean they could nuke us, but short of that they aren't operating across an ocean that is still frozen over half the year, to occupy land with no infrastructure and so little value we don't occupy it.

@@dallasgauthier3543 @neolithictransitrevolution427 In April 2021 Putin filed a submission to extend a claim to the Arctic, all the way into Canadian and Greenland (Denmark) continental shelf and economic zone, as part of Russia's continental shelf. In other words, a situation where they're claiming the entire Arctic Canadian and Danish continental shelf as part of the Russian continental shelf. Putin in a little over a decade as built eight modern military bases in the Arctic with year around staff, nuclear sub capable of surfacing thru 5 feet of solid ice, nuclear ice breakers, airstrips and nuclear weapons capable of hitting the east coast of the USA. Putin is threaten by the US capabilities, therefore he has built up the Arctic if the US should attack Russia. The US and Canada combined doesn't have enough ice breakers to patrol the Arctic. If you're not concerned about Russia building up a military near our Canadian borders, ask Ukraine if they should have been concerned. Soviet and later Russian subs have been spotted in the territorial waters of Canada, plus Russian fighter planes have buzzed both Canada and the US. According to a 2011 report old Soviet Cold-War-era nautical charts from the 1970's of the Canadian Arctic marked with the hammer and sickle symbol surfaced that were published by the Russian Hydrographic Service which are more accurate than those of Canada. These charts contained many more depth soundings than corresponding modern Canadian charts. Including Nares Strait which is still choked with thick, hard, multi-year ice and would have been even more so 50 years ago, the only way the Soviet government could have acquired data for the charts is from nuclear submarines secretly patrolling it. Putin wants control of both the Northeast Passage, the Northwest Passage of the Arctic plus all the natural resources in the Arctic. Russia had more nuclear weapons and power in the Arctic and nuclear-armed long range torpedoes known as “Poseidon a special missile that create a radioactive tsunami. I'd also reconsider if you think Putin will only annex the Canadian Arctic, when Canada has so many other natural resources when Canada doesn't have the defence to even discourage Putin from trying to do so. In 2018 Beijing agreed it would cooperate with Russia on a new Arctic silk route, signing 20 bilateral documents and agreeing to invest in the region. As part of this Beijing will build several Chinese docks across Russia's north in ports. Beijing would also like to have control over Canada's oil and natural gas.

free loaders

@@benroberts8363 Work smarter not harder

​@@c4ndyman_79That doesnt absolve you of the requirement to work.

@@dixieslav1274 It doesnt, but it suuuure makes it easier

Here is why leaving the defence of Canada to the USA is wrong. 1. It is our Country. If we need to defend any part of Canada, Canadian troops should be there to defend the land area of Canada, otherwise how do we call it Canada. 2. Working smarter, not harder says that you will give up your right to choose if you leave your choice to the USA. I think this phrase when applied to military spending has so much socialist leftist proproganda attached to it. Every University and College in Canada is run by leftist/socialist ideology, and this message has been taught to all university students for years. To get a good job in the civil service you need university degree. So most of your upper middle management and senior management are influenced by socialist ideas. In this case it means to save money all you have to do is lay down and die and if someone invades, well hope nobody dies or gets a injury. The military has been the cutting grounds of fund in order for leftists to put more money into social programs. 3. Its a matter of pride. When push comes to shove, having a strong well equiped military means no one can push Canada around. 4. Canadians are vastly different from Americans, although many in the USA and Canada think we are the same. Foreign policy alone is vastly different. 5. Canada should never become a resource country, we should manufacture our own stuff here in Canada. 6. If you want to become an American immigrate to the USA. If you leave the defence of Canada to the USA, it means Canada effectively becomes a protectorate of the USA or the 51 state. 7. If seven guys eat lunch every week at a restaurant, and every week a different guy picks up the the full amount of the lunch tab, you are the guy that never pays or picks up the lunch tab ever. There is a name for people like this (free-loaders). Now imagine you are in NATO doing the same thing.

Shitty but that's the problem in a big country. I've worked with a lot of USAF and it's way worse....you're talking moving across the world every 2 years. If we let people stay in one spot we'd have some bases with nobody.

That's pretty typical for the military though.... going into the military you should absolutely expect that

@@michaellegere508 I think most people do but it stops a lot of good people from joining. I don't know if it would ever work but you'd certainty get more people joining and better retention if they could.

Moving to where duty takes you is basic fare for active military members. That's the duty. Every military member in USA knows that if they are told to, they have to move.

The planet broke before the guard did. Cadia Stands.

​@@harrisonlichtenberg3162 Cadia Stans

An understandable mistake, probably intentional click bait.

​@@kevindaniel1337 Maybe you ought to slow down and read the entire statement 🤣

Brother…I worry you may be dyslexic

We need to stop virtue signalling and understand what really drives our economy and the role we should play for our allies. If something occurs and the USA is forced to do everything for us, we might as well become another state in their union.

Great comment! I’m 47 and I almost signed up after 9/11 (when I was 24). Then again I almost signed up in 2006 when when the Canadian Army was deployed to Kandahar. However, I never believed in Nation Building. I knew NATO could not turn Afghanistan into a Jeffersonian democracy. The good news is, our leaders finally understand that now, and we are returning to focusing our military on tradition national defence and fighting for true allies overseas. I am applying for the Canadian Armed Forces now: I just passed my CFAT tests 👍🏻

i tried to join as an Avionics System Tech in the summer of last year, 99th percentile in the aptitude test, im fit physically, but i was denied this January for health documents from when i was a minor with incorrect information on them. Ive been trying to appeal but should I even bother?

@@zacharyreid7557 Yes.

The real problem is RETENTION. People quit after a few yers when they realise that this "scoolyard king-of-the hill battle" is not for them. The place is managed like a dictatorship and only those that are liked rank up, Not the people who work hard.

​@@samtheman1287100% and when you look at it when you are older you can tell the problem is overwhelming bad people in management role.

Legal weed = Passiveness.

Well, not surprising. A lot of Canadians want everything handed to them while not working

@@AaronFromGuildfordnot really. They made hard decisions when they were given independence and still not dependent on the US but now that they are a US dependent they do nothing but this time Washington isn’t going to step in to make laws for them like London did.

@@keahililia8208 Lol, Stop with this "No one want's to work" bullshit. I literally see news articles from the mid 1800s saying the same shit.

@@Varitok1 So instead of seeing this as a trope of human societies you want to assert it's not a factor at all? GG 👍

I'm signing up for the Naval Reserves. Any tips you want to send my way would be appreciated.

12 year old mindset. there is no logical reason beside it being cool to drastically increase anything in Canadian defence besides NORAD. No threats, strongest country protecting, amazing geography, spending on defence would be a complete and utter waste of better used money. the best option is to keep spending as low as NATO allows them too, and invest in the economy. That or invest in innovating a better arms industry in order to make export.

​@eee-cz3cj What are you on. If Russia wanted to, they could have a land,naval, and air invasion of Alaska within days.

My thing is if Russia and China are back to being our mortal enemies as they seem to be gearing towards, Canada was to support the US in defense of the skies over North America, frankly given the current state one has to brutally ask...could Canada actually even help in any conflict right now even on its own territory? We know that answer is regrettably... no, as it stands Canada, if it even had to play a supporting role outside maybe material, they wouldn't be able to even sustain a battalion at this point. People mock Germany but Canada frankly makes Germany look like it's ready for ww3.

​@eee-cz3cj they barely even invest in their exports lmfao that's kinda the problem. Investing in defensive would unironically help fix that issue *shrugs* but yeah just abuse your position until everyone tells you to fuck off...seems like a smart strategy especially considering Canada needs American trade to actively support its economy.

The government is too busy banning guns and censoring their scandals from the news...

It's not. As much as many of us may hate Trudeau this has been an ongoing thing long before him. Whether or not sock boy believes that. Since the 80s it's gone down more and more

Yeah this problem started decades before our current PM so enough with the blame shifting .

@@JoeC92 It all started under a CONservative government, the Conservatives are the ones who've cut funding.

​@razorburn645 is he helping our case? No, and especially now where the world is ramping up for ww3

@@JoeC92 From the 80's? so you mean since Pierre Trudeau?? the blame is 100% on that family

No ! The us will. Kinda why we're upset. You are the nato Ali with the longest border with Russia. This is about your government; not your soldiers! We just think you need to bring more to the fight than webblys, mkI Enfields , and P.I.A.Ts

Memes aside the real reason is that we're sitting on top of America and it's massive military. Why invest in our own when we're friends with the top dog, and covered by their nuclear shield. That's what many Canadians believe, they haven't realized that America as powerful a country as it is can't do everything alone.

​@killman369547 they also haven't realized the American people are about sick of our allies always relying on us.

Most Canadians still have that switch but unfortunately that isn’t the reason, as the video emphasized our government has leaned on the protection and strength of the US military for decades and now it’s catching up

Well u r not wrong, so we just buy food aid.

​@@killman369547 another thing is if we look historically; The Americans are very notable for coming to Aid extremely slowly. World War 1 and World War 2, both Canada was forced to stand without American Support for years and we need to stop being dependent, We should be at least reaching the expectations to uphold our own weight. btw for record; I am not bashing the United States for joining these wars late, I am just stating we shouldn't be solely depending on the expectation when we aren't even holding up our own weight.

Idk. If you're waiting for assisted dying they're pretty quick to pull your tubes out 😉

Even trying to get a condo built can take up to 10 years for the permits to get the green light

@@alexpotts6520 they come to you with that option as the first option for things as simple as a broken foot or finger, or even if you say you're depressed.

America is becoming more isolationist as we speak Canada will need to step up

Every nation has an armed force: if not their own, than someone else's.

TBF, you guys DID kick our butts both times we tried to invade your country. :)

@@josepherhardt164 LOL! Best rule of thumb for dealing with Canadians: buy us a beer, we'll guard your back all night. Get between us and a beer, and you'll be picking up your teeth with broken fingers.

Now that is a very clear, honest comment, and very true. Very good......

We have a big problem in Canada with the number of people still alive but Lost to the drug problem. These people are a lost generation and will contribute to the recruitment problem with our armed forces. Bringing in compulsory service might help fill the gap as a temporary soulution but this is just a small part of what is needed and the cost is going to be quite high. We are going to have to get rid of all Trudeaus cra,zy Economics and bullshit carbon fantasy. Developing good energy markets would help pay for a new defence and pay our full share to NATO.

The pay is pretty good right now. Promotion to Corporal (for non commissioned members) or Captain (for those who join as an officer) is automatic in 4 to 5 years. The early years aren't so great as a private or lieutenant, but all of the training is free, uniforms are free, and room and board is cheap. And you can count on that promotion - its guaranteed as long as you qualify in an occupation (if you don't, you will be released).

Funny jokes.. we're actually at it. GDP is 2 trill. 2% of 2 Trill is 20B. were spending nearly 25b. Sooo.. statistically speaking we are hitting the Target. its just spent extremely poorly.

​@@theshi3152There a bit of a misunderstanding happening here. The $2.14 trillion is Canada's GDP in USD, which converts to $2.94 trillion CAD. Thats why Canada's 2023 defence budget ends up being quoted at 1.29% of GDP.

@@theshi3152my friend, 2% of $2 trillion is $40 billion, not 20

@@kutter_ttl6786 Fair enough i did no conversions so yes that would account for some discrepancy.

both Canada and the Netherlands, like all of the West, rely on piggybacking off of US military protection

Yeah, the Dutch have long had an intense dislike for Australians, so you may as well hug the next best thing.

My great grandfather and his brother helped liberate groningen , his brother came back with a bride from zwolle haha

It’s crazy to see how little most of you and other Europeans don’t invest in defense after being occupied during ww2

@@MrTakin00 The Dutch were rescued by American, Britain and Canada in Europe and Australia defeated the Japanese for the thankless task of giving them their colonies back. With such a bargain, why would the Dutch be bothered with defending themselves?

How’s your gear

@@dixienormas1627 personal gear as in kit is alright I’m lacking a few pairs of boots but i apparently will be getting some soon here gear as in vehicles and machinery we need to use for the regiment I’m in falling apart (Not literally)

This has been going south for well over 60 years. Since you think it needs to be blamed on someone, it starts with Diefenbaker.

The govts been failing us for over 30 years

@@organicwest To be more specific, we can probably blame the Americans that made him kill the Avro Arrow as the first pebble in this landslide.

@@johnnycanuck250 The Arrow was outdated by 1959, had the ICBM not been tested Diefenbaker probably would've said "no"

@@johnnycanuck250 The Americans did the same thing with Europe. Don't worry about defense we will protect you. Just give us favourable trade deals. America knows that tanks and artillery are utterly useless in defending Canada. The US would never suffer a shared land border with Russia or China.

They spent the last four years chasing the best and the brightest out of the military.

Thank you for your service.

16 years Army Maint. On the land side, the amount of orphaned equipment and pork barreling. 5/4 ton trucks Iveco LSVW being made by Western Star ( Kim Campbell riding), Hlvw company going bankrupt after delivering last truck. Almost as bad as Irving shipbuilding??

I'm very glad you shared this as it has always been my belief that it's how the money is spent/wasted, because why would the military be any different.

@@laurendamos6651 The military doesn't actually do much contracting. Practically everything DND buys or contracts to is done by Procurement Canada. What is so frustrating for the Military is that people think it's the military making these very bad spending decisions, when the truth is the Armed Forces are beholden to another federal bureaucracy.

Or provinces at all. It's not left leaning that's any easy out. It's the make up of our Country, natural resources are not a federal jurisdiction but provincial and let's be honest with ourselves. The provinces can't work together to allow liquor to flow properly across our borders, do you really think they are going to work together to allow more "energy" infrastructure?

Here's a thought for you.... most canadians didnt support the conflicts our leaders were getting us into, and largely still dont.... the reason spending isn't prioritized is because canadians don't see it as necessary. We don't want to send our kids to die in some pointless war about oil and ideas, if someone comes to attack us, or if the nazis come back. Sure. Otherwise, we have people to feed and hospitals to build instead of spending it blowing up other parts of the world....

I thought about joining 10 years ago too when I turned 18 but my parents talked me out of it.

@@dallasgauthier3543 For the most part I agree with that. Many don't see it as a priority at all. Why would they when the US is below us. We have basically capitulated to the US with regards to our national security. But when "someone comes to attack us or the nazis come back"... are we meant to not be prepared? Hilariously we have constantly spent less on the military and endlessly spend money on healthcare and subsidize food production while getting what seems to be less of both. My personal perspective on things is there has to be something entirely corrupt at many if not all levels of both the military and government for them to provide such poor services and results while getting a near fixed increase in funding every year. I mean... I don't per-se want to drag this off the topic of the military but our roads, hospitals, schools, etc are all seemingly clamoring for more and more money and producing a worse and worse product while we are already providing them with more and more money. Something is off here. Money is moving hands but not ending up in the products we are expecting. This is my personal frustration with many of the levels of government in Canada. At this point is the total lack of transparency on where money is going and how it is actually effecting my current standing of living (or current desegregation of such) outside of them constantly needing to send more money to Ukraine and other over seas interests is immensity frustrating. We are sending support in the form of weapons and armament but can't even support our own soldiers. We aren't even at the war and we are already scraping the barrel. It's actually rather pathetic.

@@ryeguy7941 Hah. Both of mine were in the military... Both of them were rather hesitant about me joining. Watch some form of major conflict occur in the next couple years and we will be wide eyed about possibly in a conflict in our current state. Even worse... Wait for the conscription. hahaha

We've had it so good for so long that people forgot what it took to have it good.

Not sure what part of Canada you're living in, but apart from the cost of living (which is happening everywhere) and the opioid crisis, I'm not experiencing anything like that.

American protection without so much as a reach around! Good golly time to setup up.

@@DW-qu1qn Talent leaving has nothing to do with the cost of living increase. From my friends in the financial sector, it’s because the American banks pay better salaries, because they control a larger share of the market. Thats not the same as grocery prices going up. As for the opioid crisis, yes some addicts are homeless, but not all of them are. You can’t immediately claim that because someone is addicted to a substance that they’re immediately a criminal either.

Thats what I ve been seeing.Especially the health care was a shock.To be fair, all the countries who have public health care struggle today, the reasons are the same that make the housing and pensions problem.Demographics.

Everybody is headed this way buddy, our potential enemies too.. Russians are chronically drunk and unfit while the Chinese have adopted the western way of living and after decades of having nothing they've decided that the fast food is great for you.. The result is an obesity epidemic similar to ours.. So I guess our fat guys with mental problems will be fighting their fat guys with mental issues...

Don't worry. Women are just as capable as men after all. Conscript women for equality! Cast aside the misogyny and give women equal rights 😂

Thats the idea. Were focusing entirely on the arctic now. Also we might be putting more money into our intelligence agencies. Ever since China and India started violating our soverignty on a daily basis with assassinations and secret police stations.

^best comment ever^ Love our southern neighbours, but it would be nice to contribute to our own defence at least. :/

This is actually the first post I agree with. Another thing that nobody is talking about is that Canada was in Afghanistan for far too long. Getting the F-35 isn't enough, we need support craft and helos. Also we don't know if the F-35 is even the right aircraft. The most northern airforce base is cold lake, because it's the last reliable northern area that is easily accessible by highway. CFB Cold Lake is a long assed way away from the artic circle where the russians fly bombers. During the 80's we were scrambling CF-18's to the arctic circle on a monthly basis. I'm not sure that they ever suffered an engine failure or not. Also the CF-18 has a longer range. After 13 years in Afghanistan we simply can't deploy to function as a large scale peace keeping force anymore. The money was being spent on subsistence level support for the troops and equipment didn't see replacement. I agree we need to spend more, but a conservative government wouldn't be the answer there. PP would just do what Harper did. Cut corporate taxes and slash spending in other places to minimize tax increases on the middle and lower incomes. Trudeau is past his best before date and doesn't pass the smell test but Poilievre would never bring Canada up to 2%. When I think of the better things that money can be spent on I don't want to see it up to 2%. Should the Ukraine fall spending can be increased, perhaps over 2%. The best way to contain russia is to continue supporting the Ukraine.

Speialization might be the way to go, and e need to get serious about the arctic, but I'd argue against gutting the Army. We will always need boots oon the ground. The Brits tried to police their empire via RAF after WW1, and found it problematic. In the Arctic, we need a persistent defence and that requires control of territory that simply can't be done by sea/air assets. Also, it'd be really nice to see us get serious about air defence as we actually don't have any AD weapons, and use of drones as a force multiplier. The Ukraine War is showing us how the next one's going to be fought. High tech, AI, and drones.

Yep. Thats what our new white paper basically focuses on. Almost entirely arctic defence.

Canada operates 21 icebreakers, 19 owned by the Canadian Coast Guard and 2 are privately owned. The Polar Icebreaker will support Canada's Arctic missions, sovereignty, and presence. Canada's Icebreaker has a logistical endurance of 270 days in the Arctic. I agree Canada needs more considering Russia has more than 40.

Thoughts and prayers will change the same amount as a change in government

And the polls speak very clearly. Canadians don't want to be part of the capitalist war machine. 🤷‍♀️

"Well, Mountie Bob he chased me, he was always at my throat. He followed on the shoreline cause he didn't own a boat. But cutbacks were a'coming and the Mountie lost his job. So now he's sailing with us, and we call him Salty Bob!" -The Last Saskatchewan Pirate

Unfortunately for Canadians fucking over the armed forces is a bipartisan activity. Remember it was under Harper when all of Canadas SHORAD was retired with no replacement selected.

Sorry

Sadly, a close reading of the new document shows that while there are a lot of promises to study the issue and examine the various options on multiple points... there are very few actual tangible commitments to spend money and invest in the military. As for the National Shipbuilding Strategy, it pre-dates the current government by about half a decade as it was started by the previous government.

Sadly, true. Yet you people kept voting for Tru-dump.

"The people we are mass importing have no loyalty to Canada" Okay but this isn't new? Immigration has been happening since the 1900's. You realize that even long-standing French-Canadians don't always want to enlist and go to war, yeah? See the Conscription Crises in the World Wars?

Yup I live here and you 100% hit the nail on the head.

Spewing replacement theory are we?

@@user-xh2yg4uv9q Never mind that the greatest brain drains in Canada happened under Diefenbaker and Harper. But please go on.

There's a lot of Canadians on the political left that constantly slander America. Even though America pretty much is the de facto defender of Canada's sovereignty. It shames me that so many of my fellow Canadians are so naive about the military and American support.

It’s the same in Europe. Everyone saying “The USA Spends too much on Defense.” But when the threat Looms Large. These Socialists Utopian New Age Hippies scream. “Where’s the USA?” Am a bit sick on the show myself

Tbf in highschool we were told could enlist with the army and become reserves via SHSM or some similar program and even get paid for it, I know 2 guys that did it. This was only like 6 or 7 years ago btw.

I seen an article the military was accepting those with permanent resident status.

meh they are just using stock photos.

If you mean the DD dressed overall, It's not even Canadian - a USN Arliegh Burke.

If Canada increasing the military pay, would that encourage more enlistment?

@@franceyneireland1633 they have been increasing pay for the last few years. But the cost of living in Canada is absolutely ridiculous that it can’t keep up. Some full time regular personnel have second jobs like delivering pizzas or Uber in order to provide for their families.

@@MA-ji1iz Nothing new about that. Some people just aren't good at living within their means.

Canada needs to fix its housing issues, it's cost of living issues, it's over taxing and tax on tax issues... we need to support our soldiers. A friend was posted from east coast to west coast and had to sell their car in order to pay rent... and still would be going in debt just to live. But recruiting.... our issue starts at the top. Served 23 yrs and my biggest observation is this in terms of recruiting. Canadian prime ministers, Canadian MP's...canadian government as a whole pays attention to the military once a year on Nov 11th. There is no public embrace of the military by the government. There is no public display of pride in the military by government, the military is a side show an after thought... they don't give a shit until the military is needed... then they throw money at it... but not long after... it slides back into the dark and gets ignored.... who wants to join a military that gets zero recognition or support from the powers who ask you to sign on the line and maybe to put your life on the line someday in the defence of canada. The government does exactly what he says.... pretends to protect tax dollars at the cost of timely procurement.... at a time where speed and accuracy are paramount for procurement. As time passes.... weapons and hardware improve... and time to prepare to defend shrinks...so speed of procurement more important now than ever in history.

How many times did you follow up with your recruiter?

Well it was terrible for both parties politically every time they tried, the public just didn't support it and haven't historically since the avro died.

It will also likely never happen. While defense spending has been an issue with any government, the Liberals are saying anything at this point. All the procurement promises have a major issue: we won't have members to use them. As the saying goes, I'll believe it when I see it.

I would like to see Canada invest in nuclear subs and toss those used diesel subs purchased from the UK, Canada likely has spent as much to repair them to make them seaworthy as what it would of cost to buy a nuclear sub. Russia as nuclear subs in the Arctic that are capable of breaking thru 5 ft of solid ice when surfacing.

The plan to buy 12 nuclear subs went back to the mulroney gov and he canceled it in 1989.

Mikey, when I joined in 90, there were officers in the RCN who'd spent their entire fucking career trying to get nuke boats to no avail. As a nation, we are simply not living up to our end of the unlimited liability clause all members take when we accept the King's shilling. We have a moral obligation to ensure they have the best kit and support to do the jobs we require of them. It's our duty as citizens to hold our MPs feet to the fucking coals to ensure this. Lest we forget.

I'm curious, as in Ontarian and to an Albertan, what do you believe there would be any change to the state of our military with the changing government?

@@Capt.Steele I believe under Poilievre we'd cease to exist as a nation, it's quite clear he's a puppet for our enemies with his austerity measures (which will extend to the Military), he wants to CUT, nothing else.

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