History of WWI Primer 047: German Karabiner 88 and Gewehr 91 Documentary

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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
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German Military Rifles Vol 2: 88 and 91 Firearms
Dieter Storz
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Die Wacht am Rhein
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@611_hornet5 7 жыл бұрын

"They're the same f*cking gun" I cant wait for when Othais does the Glock pistol decades from now and the whole episode is him just saying that.

@tombogan03884 4 жыл бұрын

As annoying as it may be, old Gaston Glock may actually have achieved perfection in the service pistol. If your buying in bulk there really isnt a better choice.

@vaclavholek4497 Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 That "evidence" was genius!

@KorianHUN Жыл бұрын

1st gen AR15s are already C&R. We are getting old!

@WildBillCox13 7 жыл бұрын

"Ping!" "That never gets old." And that thing handled smartly in Mae's experienced hands. Look at that grouping!

@SeraphinaPZ 7 жыл бұрын

With all the long rifles we have seen on this show, when Othais holds the Karabiner it looks like a BB gun or a toy in comparison to some gigantic 48 inch rifle. I imagine the weight is far more manageable.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

It's very nice.

@davidgruen7423 2 жыл бұрын

The recoil however is not.

@tirdad4026 2 жыл бұрын

@@Candrsenal Please enable Persian subtitles for all your programs

@vaclavholek4497 Жыл бұрын

@@davidgruen7423 I bet it's a lot like shooting a M.95/30 Stutzen Carbine.

@Oivindjensen 7 жыл бұрын

I`m so glad you explained the difference between a Kar88 and a Gew91, the truth has eluded me for years :)

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Very complicated stuff here!

@Ugly_German_Truths 9 ай бұрын

3 years can change so much ;)

@britishmuzzleloaders 7 жыл бұрын

Great job everybody! Just the right amount of review before delving into the meat and potatoes. Thanks.

@josuelservin2409 7 жыл бұрын

Guys you are a admirable team, the production is impeccable as always. And for me the fact that you address the repercussion on the original vs reproduction is just a wonderful showing your dedication. Thanks for this great video.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@Texsoroban 7 жыл бұрын

you know I just love the smile on Mays face when she shoots a good gun. you can tell the ones she likes vs the one she really doesn't. She's a treasure.

@Idogames4 7 жыл бұрын

Had the pleasure of seeing one of these beauty's in person, in the back of a pawn shop, while I was broke. :(

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

4 real.

@brentkeller3826 7 жыл бұрын

"It's not like they were jumping horses out of trees" Thanks Othias, now I have a mental image of soldiers throwing horse cavalry out of trees onto soldiers marching below. This must become a teeshirt.

@asphaltmemories4597 7 жыл бұрын

M1 ping before the M1. Nice!

@djpritchard5314 7 жыл бұрын

Favorite part of this episode: "Alright, fine - they're the same fucking gun." OMG. I love you guys. Literally laughed out loud. Wonderful.

@ExclusiveSovietSynthesia Жыл бұрын

“They’re the exact same bleeping gun!”

@TwentythreePER 7 жыл бұрын

I'm really glad you readdressed the Gewehr 1888, I was watching that episode the other day and wondering if you got an original clip yet. I've been looking forward to this episode and now I know the next two will be great too. I really love the rifle episodes most even though all the different handguns are interesting too. Looking forward to Mark's next episode as well. Keep up the good work and if you do some other funding campaign let us know. We would always be interested in C&Rsenal merchandise if that's an option.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@davidaltacocker7640 7 жыл бұрын

Second that, great gifts for friends.

@MrBioniclefan1 7 жыл бұрын

I know right

@chill-ento6071 3 жыл бұрын

Just the exact rifle my great great uncle used in ww1. He was part of a train battalion, responsible for the supply of the frontline troops. He worked with horses, so he had a carbine, but he also was a rear echelon troop, so it didn't had to be the newest weapon.

@troyp467 7 жыл бұрын

Cool to see the huge differences between the two rifles, or sorry carbine and rifle, many changes you covered there

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

very important

@PaulVerhoeven2 2 жыл бұрын

@@Candrsenal Well, you forgot the biggest difference, the color of the wood (stain?).

@ayarzeev8237 7 жыл бұрын

I am so glad to have a clear difference between a carbine and a rifle now :)

@joearnold6881 7 жыл бұрын

I look forward to the correction episode when they discover the storied history of the Galician Light Hedge and Shrub Horse Brigade. Expert cavalry tree-jumper-outers. They fought in the East. No shame in this research fail. ;)

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

damn.

@ryanvargas4889 5 жыл бұрын

Every night I look forward to oiling my collection and binge watching the trinity...C&Rsenal, Great War, Forgotten Weapons.

@the_major 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing the Gewehr 88 with the improved clip. Really nice to see if function as it was designed!

@DTXGaming 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for positively, once and for all clearing up the difference between carbine and rifle :D Please, don't ever stop posting these videos, having way too much fun!

@DoGTripwire 7 жыл бұрын

Ah, a new C&Rsenal vid so that I can get put to sleep by Othias' voice. Its meant as a compliment.

@cptmiche 7 жыл бұрын

As always, I love everything you guys do. Thank to the whole production team (however many of you guys there may be).

@jims9249 7 жыл бұрын

You guys just keep getting better!

@acidwizzardbastard 4 жыл бұрын

One of the cutest little carbines I've ever seen! So adorable and tiny.

@Hopolit1 7 жыл бұрын

Fantastic show as always guys!

@Mildcat743 7 жыл бұрын

Thank God I have a half day of school tomorrow

@matijakurelja9827 7 жыл бұрын

The Gewehr 91 firing sequence has a whole new level to it after seeing the extent of repairs done to it's stock. First time watching I thought it was received and fired in mint condition, okay okay- in service ready condition .

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

I rather liked showing the gun in running condition first

@matijakurelja9827 7 жыл бұрын

of course, but showing the process to get it there was illuminating

@Bayan1905 3 жыл бұрын

I recently ran across an Eduard Kettner custom built Mauser on either a Karabiner or Gewehr 91 (the bolt handle was left alone). This isn't so much a sporterized Mauser, but a totally custom bit rifle using a Bohler-Stahl barrel, custom wood stock (has a pistol grip so Mae would like it), engraving, stipling, gold inlay all over the darn thing, an express rear sight and custom quick release claw mounts and double set triggers. The darn thing is a work of art built on an exceptionally smooth action. The only thing wrong, is it's on a gun that didn't get rebored so ammo has to be .318" (slugged the barrel for the gun shop it's at). But what a wonderful gun.

@OlaJustin 7 жыл бұрын

...and they say television channels are dying. With awesome stuff like this for free online, yeah, the old media isn't even on the playing field! How does it feel, killing the old giants with pure awesomeness?

@planescaped 5 жыл бұрын

I got rid of television in 2006. I haven't missed it once. You never realize how true the term 'idiot box' is until you're separated from it.

@Sedan57Chevy 7 жыл бұрын

It's been a busy few days, but now I get to watch some C&Rsenal and the world is good again.

@unknowntraveller8633 7 жыл бұрын

Another great video thank you guys lots of information well presented. Always nice to get the shooters reviews as well.

@jacksonthompson7099 7 жыл бұрын

Another wonderful episode great JOB! Can't wait for more xD KEEP IT UP!!!! C&Rsenal!

@vetteshark77 7 жыл бұрын

thank you! I've been waiting for this one! love your videos, keep up the good work

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@mopac88 3 жыл бұрын

My 2 favorite things about these videos “War Were Declared” and let’s turn it over to Mae 🤩

@MCCanaryVideos 7 жыл бұрын

everything about this is pleasant bless forgotten weapons telling me about you guys, and you guys as well just for being so antiquated and well done

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Glad you're enjoying it!

@commandersmith2327 7 жыл бұрын

love this show! I've rewatched the entire series 7-11 times!

@maewinchester2030 7 жыл бұрын

Commander Smith Jesus that's more than I've seen them.

@commandersmith2327 7 жыл бұрын

The history's amazing, the host has a voice of butter and the Mae is just a badass

@CommunistRaccoonDog 7 жыл бұрын

The video quality of this episode is great Othais.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@tinfoilhat3268 2 жыл бұрын

That bolt handle is so wonderful

@mossbergmaniac1947 7 жыл бұрын

I love the time and effort they spent making it possible to stack weapons, while I was in the military we just leaned them onto SAWs

@vaclavholek4497 Жыл бұрын

When Othias said stalking rifle, I realized that the CZ 527 in 7.62x39 Carbine and the CZ 550FS in 6.5x55 or .308 Winchester are the modern day descendents of the Kar.88

@Buzzard-wq1bw 7 жыл бұрын

I don't know why but I NEED that gun (that bolt handle....... the nose cap...... ITS GLORIOUS.)

@evandaire1449 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah like wow. I really really like the aesthetic of this gun. It's just so unique looking. It's like someone took a Manlicher and mated it to an SMLE.

@acidwizzardbastard 4 жыл бұрын

It is an utterly _adorable_ little carbine, in the same vein as the Carcano moschettos.

@v22058 7 жыл бұрын

55 minutes of fun and guns!!

@Strawberry92fs 5 жыл бұрын

"And Airshipmen, which is a cool new job" I love you Othais.

@DougieMClark 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent. as always!

@MaxwellAerialPhotography 7 жыл бұрын

Really loving Mae's vest and ruffled shirt, awesome look.

@maewinchester2030 7 жыл бұрын

classicMaxReviews Thanks! That vest is one of my favs.

@mcfontaine 7 жыл бұрын

"It's the same f***ing gun" ... thanks guys, I needed a laugh today.

@kingsleykrasch6945 4 жыл бұрын

Great Show guys, back in 1994 an Army mate of mine brought one of these out to my farm. Being a gun but he thought I might like to shoot it. Now the 88 had a story, his grandfather brought it back,down his trousers!on inspection it wasMINT.So we cleaned it, test fired it on the bench.Then we shot about 20 wild boar. Now I must give him a call and see if he wants to part with it. Thanks again for a fantastic review.

@TwentythreePER 7 жыл бұрын

At 3:15 it's crazy how much difference there is between the heavy round nose bullets and the lighter spitzer ones. At 500 meters the spitzers have the same amount of drop as the round noses have at 800 meters, if the sight markings are anything to go by. Just goes to show how important bullet technology is along with the rifles.

@logitimate 4 жыл бұрын

What a gorgeous rifle. Look at that wood!

@jotjotpoland2696 7 жыл бұрын

I have come here to see the "war were declared" montage... And I left satisfied.

@McNubbys 7 жыл бұрын

This was halirious, well done all keep up the good work :D

@fireemblemistrash75 7 жыл бұрын

The ring from the strip being launched out is almost as soothing as the M1 Garand's ring.

@FirstStrikeSabre 7 жыл бұрын

I watched this one like a normal, functional human. Sitting on a couch. Not wearing pants.

@maewinchester2030 7 жыл бұрын

FirstStrikeSabre Nobody needs pants.

@WildBillCox13 7 жыл бұрын

Aye, a proper Scot wears kilts!

@nindger4270 3 жыл бұрын

This comment became so much better in 2020/21.

@planescaped 3 жыл бұрын

The waistband of sweatpants are really one giant pocket if you think about it.

@ISawABear 7 жыл бұрын

And i was wondering what i'd watch while writing my essay... silly me.

@redram5150 3 жыл бұрын

It caught my attention hearing Mae describe a “recoil Queen”

@lazaglider 7 жыл бұрын

Jeez, what a beautiful rifle.

@steeltalon2356 6 жыл бұрын

That wood. It's amazing.

@Terabit3 7 жыл бұрын

"He he" (ping) "That never gets old"

@raymondgill9796 7 жыл бұрын

Laughed out loud. Thanks

@Player_Review 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all your hard work! A lot of unsubbed people are _really_ missing out on some fantastic content.

@JPR3D 7 жыл бұрын

"And it's not like they were jumping horses out of trees" I laughed way harder than I have any right to.

@wessmith7793 6 жыл бұрын

You guys are hilarious!!! I really enjoy watching your videos.

@jonathanclark3829 7 жыл бұрын

That 3D animation. Very Nice. Still counting the days until we get to the venerable Mosin platform.

@MaverickCulp 5 жыл бұрын

One of my dream guns!

@RaduB. 6 жыл бұрын

I liked the rural choir in Mae's background... Again.

@nauticalwolf6649 3 жыл бұрын

I lost it when Othais said it’s the same F***ing gun lol

@siestatime4638 7 жыл бұрын

Kudos to Mae for pronouncing "Garand" the way John Garand pronounced it. On the other hand, he doesn't appear to have cared how it was pronounced as long as it was bought.

@kevintobisch7889 7 жыл бұрын

They also converted a bunch of kar88s to shoot the Spitzer round. They rebarreled them with a stronger steel barrel stamping them with letters nm on the side of the receiver and of course the S on top of the receiver

@Nick-rs5if 3 жыл бұрын

What a nifty little gun!

@kevinnealon3652 7 жыл бұрын

I must confess that I'd like to see the clip eject and Mae's smile in slow-mo!

@dennisdempsey6011 7 жыл бұрын

Many gun shops have education classes, as well as training classes you should send out a flyer they can post to draw new viewers

@perezmig577 7 жыл бұрын

"And war were declared" is my favorite phrase on KZfaq. :-

@GiggleBlizzard 5 жыл бұрын

Damnit, why does war always have to be declared so GOSH DARN LOUDLY. I always have to be ready to reach for the volume control. Still love this series!

@Wil_Roadagain 4 жыл бұрын

GiggleBlizzard well war is racket.

@MrPh30 7 жыл бұрын

Meg suddenly for no particular reason found herself on a camping holiday at the banks of the Rhine .

@IFDFAdmiralY11 5 жыл бұрын

I really like the design of this carbine, for some reason. i really like the N-bloc clip, too . . . maybe it's the Garand-esk ping it makes when it's ejected. I really wish I could find one of these available . . . it's a shame that it seems to be one of many rare rifles of that era.

@deeacosta2734 2 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas Osirus. 🎄

@MilsurpMikeChannel 7 жыл бұрын

Damnit.... now I want to add one to my collection.

@andrewpiltenko9432 3 жыл бұрын

That's a very unusual episode. Covering 2 completely unrelated guns simultaneously.

@PieterBreda 7 жыл бұрын

Well just fine, now I have to wait till the evening to be able to watch this. Just great.

@SoMDHarleyRider 7 жыл бұрын

I always cringe when I see episodes that are almost an hour long or longer, but without exception, I can never stop watching your videos. If I don't have time to watch in one sitting, I just do it in chunks. Great stuff as always! That is an understatement but now I don't have time to type out specifics! :-)

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, we just go until we run out.

@d0ener4life 7 жыл бұрын

I really wish Othais would have gone into more of the differences between the Kar 88 and the Gew 91. I really feel the whole topic would have been better served if it had been split up into two episodes.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you're right.

@d0ener4life 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for answering. I appreciate it when people own up to their mistakes.

@karl_3885 6 жыл бұрын

Pronounciation of "Landgendarmerie" was on point tbh :)

@counterstrifekid 7 жыл бұрын

Mae is such a damn good shot. No wonder why she is the designated shooter.

@SuperWasweissichdenn 7 жыл бұрын

Erfurt also made the early Kar 98 AZ Carbines. One was sold at James D. Julia

@Maximilian178 7 жыл бұрын

Suhl...my birthplace

@SuperMegaCyrus 7 жыл бұрын

Over here in jolly old England I'm just about to start my day. Looking forward to collapsing on my sofa to watch this after Work/Gym. See ya then.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

How did it go?

@SuperMegaCyrus 7 жыл бұрын

It went very well, and really enjoyed this episode. The anecdote about the kaiser is so "Old World" I love it. Keep up the good work!

@saxo9266 3 жыл бұрын

great choice of background music "Gott erhalte franz den kaiser" or the former anthem of the holy roman empire. Or the same melody, Current anthem of Germany and i also like the old patriotic background music, "Die wacht am Rhein"

@mariusdragoe2888 7 жыл бұрын

I've been watching your earlier videos lately and they suffer from the short length and lack of "war were declared"

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Patreon support makes it easier to do more!

@ung427 7 жыл бұрын

Happy badger! 30:52 That's a happy badger!

@WastelandSeven 7 жыл бұрын

I cracked up with you guys keeping straight face while talking about them being totally different! LOL Props to you guys for your self discipline (and remind me to never play poker with you) LOL

@d-cat8198 7 жыл бұрын

What?! This didn't make the top 5? Philistine's! German rifles are my favorite...I may be biased. Thank you for another wonderful episode. I hope you can continue.

@JohnRSrlie 7 жыл бұрын

This is a beauty... a jewel... the gun, im talking about the gun... Thanks

@greydonstautzenberger3901 2 жыл бұрын

Keep it up

@doraran5158 7 жыл бұрын

Regarding the clips, the metallurgy and heat treatments in these components is essential. Just bending sheet metal won't work. I had some 3 shot Berthier clips marked "Santa Fe Arms" (likely made in 1950's or early '60s since that's when that company was around) that worked poorly. Once I acquired original French military clips, rifle functioned correctly. I wish I'd known you needed an original Commission 88 clip as I obtained one in a junk parts box recently [and also an M93 Dutch clip] and I'd have sent it to you.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

I definitely agree, and dont worry that Dutch clip is up next

@michaelboudreaux1046 7 жыл бұрын

7:08 I laughed out loud at the image of a horse jumping out of a tree.

@TH3PLA1NP1L0T 5 жыл бұрын

Man, en bloc clips are really effective because they speed up loading time 😃

@MyFabian94 7 жыл бұрын

As a German I'm not sure if I Object to 22:14. But as always, great Production Value for such a Small Channel, deserving of more, keep up the Good Work.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

literally every song and motto from WWI is a problem in Germany it seems.

@herocommand 7 жыл бұрын

Nah just their national anthem because hitler abused the ''Deutschland Deutschland über alles'' part (although it should be noted it's not forbidden to sing the whole anthem they just don't do it and it gets frowned upon by everyone around them) Wacht am Rhein is ok Heil dir im Siegerkranz aswell.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

We also have a series of shirts with the official mottos of WWI and it had some German issues as well.

@herocommand 7 жыл бұрын

Huh interesting as far as i know noone has aproblem with ''gott mit uns'' and other things

@trenchfighter8778 7 жыл бұрын

finally my favorite carbine in verdun

@fhsreelfilms 7 жыл бұрын

Great video! I didn't know anything about these before. The shape of that front cap reminds me a lot of the Turkish conversions of the Berthier rifles. Speaking of Berthiers, how come the 5-shot version (carbine or rifle) didn't make it somewhere on Mae's list? And further speaking of that list, it'd be cool to have a page where her final verdict for each gun is listed. I sometimes can't remember, so a handy reference page would be swell! Thanks for the hard work!