History of WWI Primer 142: Siamese RS 121 Type 46 Documentary
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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
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The Siamese Mauser
Francis C. Allan & Roger L. Wakelam
Japanese Contract Rifles
Doss H. White & Francis C. Allan
The Early Arisakas
Francis C. Allan , Doss H. White, Dr. Standley Zielinski
Late Siamese Mauser Handguards
Francis C. Allan
Arisaka Prototype to Compete for the Siamese Rifle Contract
Takehito Jimbo & Francis C. Allan
Siamese Mauser Postscript
Francis C. Allan
The Last Siamese Mauser?
Francis C. Allan
Siamese Manufactured Type 46 Long Rifle
Jonathan Paterson & Francis C. Allan
Siamese Test or Sales Sample Rifle?
Chip Goddard & Francis C. Allan
Siam and World War I
Stefan Hell
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@Dawe360 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact there is actually a Buddhist shrine dedicated to king chulalongkorn in the north of Sweden. He came to visit in 1897 and a hundred years later they built a shrine to honor him. Been there a few times and it is a beautiful place.
@chooseyouhandle 2 жыл бұрын
It took them 100 years to build a shrine?
@bakerking5351 2 жыл бұрын
@@chooseyouhandle permits were hard to come by
@wasinpunti7918 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@austinm.9832 Жыл бұрын
@@chooseyouhandlenot many experienced buddhist shrine builders in europe
@Candrsenal 3 жыл бұрын
For anyone confused: The public schedule is now "locked in." There will be another full length episode in two weeks, and then two weeks after that, just like it has been for years. In one week the next trap episode drops like usual as well. I will say, the next big episode is going to be a special. It will be available "early" to Patrons next week.
@michaelmclaughlin4889 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possibly the 1911?
@LukeBunyip 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmclaughlin4889 Nah. Mae it's going to be special. 😜
@virusguy5611 3 жыл бұрын
Omg c and r are back yesssd
@planescaped 3 жыл бұрын
It's gonna be that Tokarev that's been hiding in the back is my guess. Or the start of the long-planned shotgun series.
@ketsuekikumori9145 3 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, has the patron "beta testing" worked out? Assuming at all that this video had mistakes when it was originally released to patrons before being released to youtube.
@Tadicuslegion78 3 жыл бұрын
King: Now, shall Mr. Lingkong be winning this war he is fighting at present? Anna: No one knows really. King: Well, does he have enough guns and elephants for transporting things? Anna: I don't think they have elephants in America, your majesty. King: No elephants? No wonder he is not winning war!
@Mike-tw1pi 3 жыл бұрын
True story.. Lincoln did in fact politely decline the King of Siam's offer of two elephants.
@31terikennedy 3 жыл бұрын
That's why they call Republicans elephants:D
@voiceofraisin3778 3 жыл бұрын
@Ted Hubert Pagnanawon Crusio Elephant Bombards are useful but the elephant of surprise is better!
@Khanclansith 3 жыл бұрын
Othias: "The most beautiful thing..." May: *he is talking about the rifle isn't he?*
@dr.donaldhurley2922 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the dark ages, the origin of the "Siamese Mauser" was to allow budding gunsmiths an opportunity to rechamber to a fun cartridge like .45-70!
@offcourseoverland 2 жыл бұрын
I have one and it's a strange rifle.
@sharonrigs7999 4 ай бұрын
I have one too! It's a thumper
@Dswagger-D 3 жыл бұрын
Othais: starts rattling of the name of the rifle Me: is this one of those animes the kids are talking about?
@mikepette4422 3 жыл бұрын
most likely cause i don't understand any of it
@davidbrennan660 3 жыл бұрын
Not as worrying either.
@KriLL325783 3 жыл бұрын
You mean those chinese cartoons?
@csm5040 2 жыл бұрын
@@KriLL325783 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@andrewcomerford9411 3 жыл бұрын
Brave man Othais, taking verbal pot-shots at the lady with the rifle.
@Tallus_ap_Mordren 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. She also knows where he sleeps, and where he keeps his ammo.
@fg42t2 3 жыл бұрын
I once owned a type 38 carbine in 7.7 Japanese. It was in the 1940 Siamese Rifle test trials. It had several unique features----the only markings were the serial # and a small triangle on the chamber, The rear sight was on a curved ramp, the front sight was on a widened bridge with squared ears with a squared holes. the barrel had 3 smaller blocks to hold a type 30 Bayonet at the proper length for mounting. The butt stock had a Mauser style sling slot cut in it. I sold it to Fred Honeycutt any years ago . The last time I saw him he said he still had it and no he didn't want to sell it back to me. Bob Benson
@michaelconner9796 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how i went 31 years into my life without this channel... The knowledge is magnificent. This is what history class should have been.
@Candrsenal 3 жыл бұрын
Thank.
@jeffbangle4710 3 жыл бұрын
Wait a sec...War Were Declared, Siamese troops actually saw service, but no patented "War Were Declared" video clip?
@Herintruththelies 3 жыл бұрын
We got gyped!
@row7820 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing... As an American with Thai Heritage I would love to have one of these!
@cptreech 3 жыл бұрын
"This rifle normally uses a stripper clip...So it's single loading for me" And that's the reason the Mauser style magazine is better (for the collector, 100 years later) than any using an en bloc clip
@praphakornjairak5765 3 жыл бұрын
I'am from Thailand.I love Siamese gun
@Aldamiras 11 ай бұрын
Years ago I had to take my Type 46 to a Thai restaurant to get them to translate the writing/markings on it. They were not only able to translate the rifle's serial number but they ID'd the other markings on it as well, incl. the crest. It was an 8x52r caliber which at the time I owned it could only be made from 7.62x54r brass and that meant about $65.00 a box (early '90's). The rifle shot 'decently' with that ammo, not well enough for me to keep it.
@mistermurtad2831 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want to be the elephant drive when they fire the cannon.
@johnkilcer 3 жыл бұрын
Grug has one. Grug like... much fun.
@davidhansen5067 2 жыл бұрын
I like the touch of Mae attempting to close the bolt on an empty chamber, just to prove that the magazine hold-open does, in fact, work, even after a hundred years.
@titaniumwo1f390 3 жыл бұрын
Its semi-official name was "รัตนโกสินทร์ ศักราศ ๑๒๑" (based on ร.ศ. ๑๒๑ mark) and It should be pronounced like "Rat-ta-na-kho-sin Sak-ka-raj Nueang Song Nueang" (if you pronounce Thai number as an individual number), which Othais managed to correctly pronounce the "รัตนโกสินทร์" part. PS: its official name according to Royal Thai Army (RTA) is "ปืนเล็กยาว แบบ 46", which can be translate to "long rifle, model 46", and number 46 came from a year it was adopted in Buddhist Era 2446 (1903). Also, its western name according to RTA is Siamese M1903.
@jtilton5 3 жыл бұрын
Saw a bunch of these at the Thai Air Force Museum in the display for the Thai-French war.
@davidegaleotti94 3 жыл бұрын
Steal them while you can
@jtilton5 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidegaleotti94 Yeah, I really don't want to have a stay in The Bangkok Hilton... Especially with 9000 new covid cases in Bangkok a day.
@davidegaleotti94 3 жыл бұрын
@@jtilton5 I get that :/ I wonder what the Thai museum calls them, tho, considering the confusion on the designation.
@jtilton5 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidegaleotti94 When I first saw them I mistook them for Arisaka rifles, (most of the Thai planes in the museum from this time period were of Japanese manufacture also.) It was only through some research I found out what they were. Though I haven't been back since then so I don't know the specifics of the rifles on display.
@demonprinces17 3 жыл бұрын
@@jtilton5 don't think it's covid you have to worry about in there
@Grunge4ever1993 3 жыл бұрын
See? This is why I love y'all so much. I had never even heard of this beautiful rifle before this video, and am now going down a rabbit hole of reading about the history of Siam/Thailand, 😂😂😂. Also, thanks to you guys, I bought a Vetterli M1870/87/15 along with my own copy of the book "The Italian Vetterli Rifle," and bought a Winchester 1907 when I went to the gun store to pick up a Gen4 Glock 20 10mm Automatic, 😂😂😂😂.
@dondavis2907 2 жыл бұрын
You know the world is right when after firing the rifle, Mae gives that satisfied sigh/smile!
@jackandersen1262 3 жыл бұрын
Always love videos like this and the Berdan (to name a few) that tell about the Country’s history.
@lonewolfy5697 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic animation, seeing the improvement over the years is worth my Patreon.
@kevinrobinson5654 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact that seems to have been deleted from contemporary history books: the original Siamese conjoined twins, Chang and Eng Bunker, got rich doing 'freak show' tours. They invested their wealth in a plantation and slaves in the Carolinas where they settled down, married, and had children. Their children fought in the Civil War on the side of the Confederacy.
@Tippet76 3 жыл бұрын
Which history books are you saying they were deleted from?
@hailexiao2770 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tippet76 The ones written by "underrated" contrarian edgelords, of course
@danielkorladis7869 2 жыл бұрын
well that sucks
@waffle-do1qx 4 ай бұрын
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_and_Eng_Bunker
@whiterice. 3 жыл бұрын
A bit of help with your pronounciation there. Ra-ta-na-ko-sin-sok nueng-roi-yi-sib-ed. I'll keep em coming as I watch through. All this might sound like nitpicking, but getting it right helps others along the line. 4:48 The reigning dynasty then and now is actually the Chakri dynasty, with Rattanakosinsok being the total reigning period of the dynasty. That type of year counting has almost completely fallen out of use in modern times. Current year is ร.ศ. 226. 30:27 Pronounced Bo-worn-det by locals, he later led a failed royalist rebellion in 1933 against the constitution monarchy in an attempt to return it to an absolute monarchy. In all honesty, there's been more coups here than I can keep track of over the years. Have fun with that. 46:18 The crest in the picture shown says แบบ๔๗/๖๖. The direct translation of แบบ is type, so that would be the Type 47/66. 46:49 Pronounced Plaak Pi-bun-song-kram.
@Simon_Nonymous 3 жыл бұрын
It's not nitpicking - it's always useful to be told how things are pronounced from people who know, so we can say it correctly. And that's from an Englishman, old boy!
@rrich52806 3 жыл бұрын
Karen
@hermatred572 2 жыл бұрын
@@rrich52806 lee
@rrich52806 2 жыл бұрын
@@hermatred572 Karen! Is that really you. Missed you
@donmears4090 3 жыл бұрын
I've been a subscriber for 18 months and have come to enjoy learning about the military firearms of WW1. One of my favorite parts of each episode is when you both speak about the firearm and Mae's impression of it. Your playful banter makes me smile. An episode dealing with the problems and solutions reloading ammo for some of firearms would be interesting to me, nothing too technical just general information.
@Enetso 3 жыл бұрын
Always love seeing guns I've never heard of before. Great work as always!
@TONYCGG 3 жыл бұрын
Both of info about the gun and extra Thai history are so valuable to hear. Thank you so much
@staghounds 3 жыл бұрын
Once again, a rifle sheds light on obscure and complicated history . Thank you!
@jonathanhudak2059 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool and elegant rifles, underappreciated. I have one in the 8x52R chambering and like it a lot. Thanks for this wonderful video on these fascinating rifles!
@rainbow2710 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Finally!! Been waiting for a feature on the Siamese! Thanks!
@ryanstebbins3102 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy you guys went into such detail with these rifles. There are very few good resources on these mausers.
@ecothunderbolt257 3 жыл бұрын
Comments equal support. Let's lift em up boys!
@42pyroboy 2 жыл бұрын
There is a such a wealth of info in these videos! Thank you guys for the hard work!
@danielkorladis7869 2 жыл бұрын
That's wild that the deal was with Mitsui. Used to see their ships and containers at the port here all the time growing up. Also clever of Siam/Thailand to contract with Mauser for the design but have them manufactured in Japan to keep from drawing too much attention in Europe.
@danieltaylor5231 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the research work Maurice.
@kregchrist2826 2 жыл бұрын
all your hard work is very much appreciated.
@Ntmoffi 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing one of these at a gun show and thinking how weird it was.
@cameo25000 3 жыл бұрын
Another good show. Thanks.
@williammagoffin9324 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm subscribed and belled and I never saw this in my feed. I guess I get a "new" episode while you folks are busy catching up after the recent stuff.
@comiketiger 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting slice of gun history and very well done as usual. Enjoyed this a great deal. God bless all here.
@tmack11 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't that long ago this channel only had 20k subs. You love you see it!
@jameskazd9951 3 жыл бұрын
this is a really cool mix of arisaka and mauser. one of the coolest bolt guns i have seen yet
@smokeytokyo4553 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome episode as always
@LoneWolf051 3 жыл бұрын
lets see Ian do a mud test with this, followed by Othias having a sudden panic attack
@LadyAnuB 3 жыл бұрын
😅
@donjones4719 3 жыл бұрын
Only if Ian "forgets" to close the dust cover.
@SpaceCowboyfromNJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@donjones4719 Honestly it might still pass. If I remember correctly the K98 they tested passed even without a dust cover. So a 98 Mauser action with an addition of an intergraded dust cover I would expect to pass even if that dust cover was left open.
@tomalexander4327 2 жыл бұрын
These are such great episodes
@connorgormly3236 3 жыл бұрын
A great channel and so much content I’m never bored
@AKS-74U 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting a LONG time for this episode.
@cheesenoodles8316 3 жыл бұрын
Tonight, perfect timing. Excellent.
@FrAn-tm7ht 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always.
@SearTrip 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t like this video because it shows how much my RS121 (as I shall call it from now on) has been screwed with. I felt the algorithm needed to know that.
@TheRealColBosch 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had one of these that someone previous jerkwad had butchered. I also had a gorgeous example that was unmolested, and looked even better than the one in this video.
@SpaceCowboyfromNJ 3 жыл бұрын
In what way was it screwed with? Depending on what was done, it's possible it was done in some sort of official capacity.
@theminnesotan592 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite series!
@richardsveum8452 3 жыл бұрын
I fired one of these converted to 45-70 years ago. Lots of fun. and really smooth.
@niklasaskham4208 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mae and Othais
@errolreeves5296 3 жыл бұрын
It was interesting to hear about this rifle after the first world war. Looking forward to your episodes when you get outside of the great war.
@benjaminforman1616 3 жыл бұрын
Of course you guys post the long awaited new video when I'm sleeping. I dont even know how! You guys are basicly in the same state!
@listingsempty8200 2 жыл бұрын
Magnificent history class. Thank you
@jeanbaptistevallee4500 3 жыл бұрын
I bought mine from an add in "Shotgun News" sometime in the 1970`s. No ffl required as ammunition was "not available". I`d of tracked down the Austrian round if I had known it would have worked!
@JohnSmith-bf1sq 3 жыл бұрын
Primer!!!! So excited when i saw it.
@brydengudbranson2728 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@visionaryfirearmsllc9999 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content guys.
@davidkatz1503 3 жыл бұрын
I always support by buying merch bc it’s not enough to love this show, I have to subject everyone else to it as well
@alancarr3381 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@tortuga4874 3 жыл бұрын
Ty very much for making a video on this not very well known rifle. Also hey, that pronunciation was great man!
@jsma9999 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you to Ohas for this gun, out left Grandstand (Far Left Field), Great Film
@CJL999 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Othais is so good at history narration! As a Thai guy, I approved
@itatane 3 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous looking Mauser, almost as nice looking as the Persian model. Always wanted one, never had a chance to pick one up. Gun shows around here are terrible. Always the same vendors selling the same stuff (which never seems to sell anyway) at the same inflated prices.
@AustinAOkay 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@yuibot5998 3 жыл бұрын
My dad has one. He paid 15 dollars decades ago and had it converted to 30 40 Krag which was common to do back then since there weren't even reloading dies or components for the rifle at the time.
@Absaalookemensch 3 жыл бұрын
We had a couple of these. They converted into excellent 45-70s.
@richardcuneo1727 3 жыл бұрын
"Tune in this week for the return of The All Mauser Channel!" Jk, love the show
@vaclavholek4497 3 жыл бұрын
Othais, thank you for doing your duty!
@jameskazd9951 3 жыл бұрын
YAAAY, new episode
@314299 3 жыл бұрын
This episode makes me want to go dig out my own Siamese Mauser to have a fresh look at it and perhaps make up some ammo for it.
@Mangowaffle 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for reminding me to comment Mae!
@g.55centaurosimp18 3 жыл бұрын
This gun looks slick.
@timblack6422 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting!
@SlavicCelery 3 жыл бұрын
Budda's nips on that statue are bold indeed. They're nearly a big as a rivet from the ill fated titanic.
@whatnowstinky 3 жыл бұрын
thank you Othias, your quick comment about the Thai forces serving under the Japanese finally answers my question of how there were enough firearms left in Thailand to surplus (as opposed to being taken and redistributed by the jaoanese) for my next stupid question... What load bearing equipment did the Wild Tiger Corp use with thier Sht LE's?
@user-ry4wg6wp2d 2 жыл бұрын
Thailand stronger and freedom
@tjo4087 3 жыл бұрын
May and othias the dynamic duo!
@SirSaladhead 3 жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful and practical mud cover (for out of combat mud protection), wonder why no other major power picked up on it.
@thesunsetdriver 3 жыл бұрын
Alright, I can go to bed early! Phone: KZfaq Beep GODDAMNIT!!!!!
@mikepette4422 3 жыл бұрын
Oh I see they started with a Mannlicher model and thats why the 8x 50 mm R cartridge. Ok that makes sense @32:55 Oooo ! that 8 x 50 sounds very satisfying as it goes boom
@TerryDowne 3 жыл бұрын
Darn, I was hoping for a tune from "The King and I" as background music in the shooting segment.
@jimludovici8427 3 жыл бұрын
I have one of these that were reworked to the 8x52R Siamese cartridge, love to shoot it, but making the brass is a pain.
@donjones4719 3 жыл бұрын
The sliding dust cover looks less prone to breakage than the bolt-integrated one on the later Mauser. The latter is moving with every shot and looks like it could snag on a coat or something.
@SpaceCowboyfromNJ 3 жыл бұрын
The Siamese Mauser one does have a potential weakness, and that is if the push tab breaks. I do have one Type 46/66 that at some point the tab snapped push in half. That said considering just about every Siamese Mauser that hasn't been sporterized sill has the dust cover and that one I own is the only one I have seen with a broken tab it can't be that bad.
@MortRotu 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the episode, love finding out about obscure weapons like this. Thanks Othias and team! A thought occurs, could you 3D print things like stripper clips if you couldn't find them and could really use them? Or would the material differences between metal plastic screw the effort over (or indeed yt's rules...)
@SpaceCowboyfromNJ 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly. My brother has mine and eventually he will get around to trying to 3d print one.
@attanondk651 3 жыл бұрын
WOW is best rifle , watching from Thailand .
@HandFromCoffin 3 жыл бұрын
Strange, as long as I've watched this I've never had confirmation these 2 are a couple. I mean, I suspected and figured they where.. but never actually heard them say anything about being together. Confirmed.
@kornaktanker7633 3 жыл бұрын
that bolt just sounds so good, proper clonk.
@Solid-Shizzard 3 жыл бұрын
I see C&R video, I make a fresh pot of coffee amd clear my desk. I am a simple man who enjoys simple things
@ketchman8299 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job on a very tough rifle.
@stephenkissinger4434 3 жыл бұрын
Was there a problem with the ejector or extractor that was causing the cases to not eject properly? I couldn't tell if the ejector wasn't springing out correctly or if the extractor was slipping the rim before the case got to the ejector (or if it was some other problem), but it definitely looked odd for cases to end up sitting on top of the magazine waiting to be dumped out.
@bumpercoach Жыл бұрын
it would be good for the color "drawings" to include a line for the 2-piece stock since thats so distinctive and involves such impressive joinery
@stephenpierce2726 3 жыл бұрын
Somewhere Ian's ears perked up "Did someone say Berthier?"
@rmod42 3 жыл бұрын
I'm commenting Mae! I'm commenting!
@emmanuelmonge6965 3 жыл бұрын
13:30 dude, you just blew my whole mind. SHIPPING!
@s.tomblin6791 3 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@brendonbewersdorf986 3 жыл бұрын
I love this gun so much I'm dying to get my hands on one
@astridvallati4762 3 жыл бұрын
NOT A Mauser 1907 Commercial, but a 1904 commercial: Siam actually tried out the 1900 Patent Mauser ( Predecessor of the M1904 commercial) from a sample rifle in 7x57 Mauser ) seen in article in Guns and Ammo 1960s Siam marked. Other 1904 features are the Heavier Cocking Piece ( as in the Turkish M1903) The Slanted Magazine is the same as that for Rimmed (Flanged) English Trade Actions ( See Jon Speed " Sporting Mausers)
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