I have been riding and maintaining bikes for nearly 40 years. I am not impressed by this video and I have a few thoughts on it: 1. The factory lube is in fact a really excellent deep penetrating lube for your chain, despite the fact that it can attract some dirt. A lot of folks agree. Personally I keep it on for a while and ride until chain is very dirty and needs a good clean. 2. You don’t need to remove the chain from your bike in order to degrease it. Use a Park tool chain bath or something similar. It does a great job and no need to worry about breaking the chain and rejoining etc. It also has the added benefit of agitating your chain physically in the degreaser rather than just sitting there. 3. You need to thoroughly rinse the chain with water a couple of times after you degrease it in order to wash and flush the degreaser out and completely off the chain, including from in amongst the rivets. Wiping off the degreaser from the outside does not remove the degreaser from inside the chain which is amongst the rivets. 4. Following this you need to dry your chain using paper towels or a dry clean rag to make sure all the water is removed. I also leave it overnight to evaporate and dry further before re-oiling. 5. Re-oiling the chain by running the chain fast under the nozzle of your oil bottle is lazy and actually a really a poor way of oiling your chain. Instead oil each rivet individually and slowly by hand making sure the chain is completely saturated and gets into each link join. Give it an hour or more to sink in. Then clean the excess lube off from the outside of the chain and off from the chain rings and jockey wheels.

Why not clean the cassette before putting the lube on the chain? The degreaser is now working the lube that just got put on the chain. Makes no sense.

Wow! You can apply this method to ANYTHING! - mud free clipless cleats? Wash them. - mud free pedals? Wash them. - mud free frame? Wash it. See? Wow! 😆

I think is better to remove cassette before cleaning. Degreasing spray and oil from brush can end on disc rotor. Result is contamination, which is bad.

Holy cow! If you do this every time you've been in wet/dirty conditions - Respect! No way I can find time and energy to do this 'trick' more than a few times a year...

I love how much effort you put into cleaning your bike. first you go through every hole in the pulleys with a towel, then you lace shoelaces all around your chain in both directions haha.

Soak and flush the chain in petrol, dry off with a rag, soak in de-greaser and flush with waste, dry off with a rag. Allow the grime to settle, drain off and save the petrol and de-greaser for later reuse. Melt paraffin wax to about 55-60DegC take off the heat and add approx 20% 20w50 oil. Pour into a plastic container that the wax can be removed when it solidifies later on so you can remelt. While the wax is still liquid immerse the chain fully so it is covered with a bout 50mm of hot melted wax over it. Agitate the a little to allow the wax/oil to penetrate and displace any air within the chain and leave for about 10-15 minuets. Fish out the chain with a wire hook while the wax is still molten and a skin is just forming on the surface of the wax. The chain will still be hot allow the wax to drain off and lightly wipe off the excess wax. Allow the chain to air cool and reinstall chain on the bike. The wax/oil mix will have lower the melting point to a bout 35-40 deg C for remelting and waxing the chain. The wax mix on the chain will become soft at around 28-30DegC and unlikely to spatter all over your bike as oil does . Sand and dust is less likley to stick to this mix than it is to oil or grease. Re-wax every 4-6weeks depending on how much you ride.

FINALLY, Someone that maintains their drive train the same way I do. I truly hate having a black chain and you can almost hear the money grinding away when it sounds gritty. Done it that way for nearly 30 years (and owned a bike shop), never snapped a chain or had a chain suck or slip but out lasted everyone else's drive trains.

Degrease the cassette after you lubricate your chain? Seems backwards to me.

I clean my bike with a pressure washer, plus bike shampoo and a brush. Never had any problems. No matter how clean it can be, as soon as you drive on a trail or just drive through the forest, everything is dirty anyway. And even on the street it quickly gets dirty again.

that pressure washing your bearings will thank you

Love the magnet to retrieve the quick link! Genius!

Why lubricate the chain before cleaning the cassette? Wouldn't it make more sense to first clean & degrease the cassette before lubing the chain and cassette?

Very satisfying watching such a gunked up jockey wheel be cleaned!

You can do something similar for the frame. Wash thoroughly, let dry and then apply Pledge furniture polish. After a muddy ride, just let the mud dry and then brush off the mud which will flake off easily. Works on the cassette and exterior of chain as well, as an alternative to silicone, mentioned by others.

FYI the stuff on new chains is meant for protection and not lubrication. They should be cleaned before use.

It really helps to do it when you arrive rather than right before your ride. It allows the WD-40 to dry out and the lubricant to penetrate the chain rollers.

my technic more or less is similar like yours. the crucial application to have is patient.

A.wet the bike B.Motip gel degreaser on the chain and cassette C.fill up the chain cleaning device with degreaser C.Spray with WD 40 bike wash liquid everything including the foaming drivetrain. D. Run 50 rotations with the device filled with degreaser and another 50 with water E. Hard brush long bristles do cassette and chainring. Rest bike with sponge. Rinse everything. Dry with rag. PTFE spray on derailleur, dry lube always on the chain, brunox on shocks and dropper posts. That's 10 minutes. It's my nemesis but it's done after every single ride right at the car parking.

Recently switched to rock n roll extreme lube no issues so far with it chain stays really clean

Cleaning the cassette after lubricating the chain? Is the video in the correct order? I would clean everything first, then I use an air compressor to dry the chain. Leave it for a while then lube everything.

I cook my chain once a year in Putoline chain grease (more like wax, stays where it should) in the can for Non-O-Ring motorcycle chains together with my 125 cc Chain. During the year I only Keeper the chain clean / rust protected by Pullis it through a cloth with some gear oil or any other oil. Same with all my motorcycle chains.

I service my bike at home so I switched to wax. I remove the chain, clean it in a bottle with a small ammount of mineral spirits, then place it in a molten wax bath for 5 minutes. Waxed chain leaves no grime so I don't have to degrease the rest of my transmission - everyghing can be cleaned with warm water and a rag/brush, no mess. Performance-wise, didn't feel any difference.

what about the overspray on the brake rotor?

Another Wax fan here. A 1kg tub of putoline costs about the same as you probably waste on PTFE loaded oils in six months but lasts years...

What was the point in cleaning the front chainring if you put the dirty chain back on it?

Spraying lube so close to the brake rotor 😱

The start of the video is pressure washing directly on the wheel, and bearings don't usually like that, even sealed.

i spray the cassette with silicone. oils attract dirt. IMO

Wheel out to clean cassette - one drop of oil per link at a time - takes longer but more effective - not sure citrus degreaser will contaminate discs but good practice to protect them regardless.

Do you use the same dirty oily brushes after cleaning the chain that you used before?

Yeah I screwed my hub power washing the cassette definitely a bad idea

I totally agree keeping drivetrain clean and dry is most important. But i would suggest to use dry industrial chain grease, it is times better than bike chain greases. But ofcorse after applying the excess must be cleaned because chain only needs grease inside bushes not outside.

Degreasing the cassette after lube the chain ? Seems equal to lube a dirty chain

this is good tips for cleaning. keep it up ! brother 🤟

Mud proof drive train ? Yeah ok . Just after I finish grooming my unicorn

My experience is That instead of brunox/wd40/whatever mulitioil I do the same at the end with silicon spray. That mix of good chain oil and silicon works perfect in mud and dirt.

There should be another part of cleaning the cleaning tools

Using that metod on all bike parts and frame, silicon or teflon spray work wonders :)

Thanks for the tips. I will see how I can implement them for easy use. Btw, how is that Oiz? Have one in that same color with 120mm suspension.

I use different method. Couple years back, seen some people using paraffine / beeswax method. Tried that, worked nice. I improved it with graphite powder. Nothing sticks to the chain, and sounds healthier. But, I'm riding mostly gravel roads and city. So this isn't solution for everyone. I concluded that not having a grease is way better then have abrasives stuck to chain. In my case I use dry grease with graphite, it lasts around 200 kilometres, then it needs to be greased again, for that i make terpentine or kerosene solution, same stuff but diluted in solvent. Works great, made a lot of kilometres, feels fine.

in the video thumbnail, the screw next to the drop out, what is the name of that screw? I need to find a replacement for mine lol

hey love your stuff, got a little question for you, whats your opinion on xtr cassette with axs shifting

does it matter how you remount the chain? should the same worn side go against the cassette?

First question...is your floor covered in little gunk bits and what did you put down to collect them. Second, is your wall covered in grease splatter from all that brushing? Third, how is your brake rotor not contaminated from all that careless brushing in the rear?

I can't believe folk don't know how to clean their bike. Totally amazing Probably about right for YT and FB

Did anyone try to use "Dry PTFE spray" on the cassete, rd rollers and fron chainring ?

Awesome tips!

Have you experimented with hot waxing your chain? Parafin wax works well as a lubricant and no dirt or dust sticks to it.

I think it also great to invest a leaf blower in drying your bike as it drives water away from small crevices. Sometimes you never know water stays on places not reached by drying towels.

Just clean chain with rag and re-lube after every ride. Takes 10 mins.

7:41 I bet those brakes sound nice

What a nice bike i hope someday i can buy something like that all i have is a hardatil xc bike haha still a student tho

What is the exact model of the brunox are you using? Im so jealous lol thanks mate

Everyone says "clean drivetrain religiously", oh but use "special lubricants" then clean them off every ride or when the chain and cassette are visually dirty. Might as well use any CHEAP oil because it gets cleaned off anyway. All I've used is clean engine oil and motorcycle fork oil and have had a cassette last for over 4 years and still going. Not going to buy expensive lube.

Godamn!!! You lubed the hell outta that chain bro!!! I just feel sorry for that brake rotor 😎

hello what is the liquid to clean the chain

The chains are rolled in hot oil in the factory. This is a heavy weight oil. Think of 40 weight motor oil which is pretty much syrup when cold. That’s why waxing a chain works. Anyway, thanks for the share. 👍🏻

Yeah, i doing it after every my Ride. It works like a Dream.

nice video ! is the routine the same for dry dusty area?

I would honestly take the wheel off to remove the cassette to achieve that cleanliness and lubing. I’m not a fan of submersing the chain in degreaser or paraffin as I’ve seen some bike shops do it. Q20 degreased and leaves just the right lube film on the chain. The real trick is to NOT use commercial lubes: squirt, white lightning, finishline are all dirt magnets, it creates a compound that kills your drivetrain, whether in wet or dry conditions, DO NOTuse these products, Q20 with proper cleaning is all you need. My XX1 eagle chain and chainrings last a minimum of 3000km, I practice what I preach.

Hot chain waxing, the initial cleaning is a pain but after that you will wonder why you have been using chain lube all these years

Every time? I ride my bike 5-6 times a week, so no. I clean the chain, cassette, etc, with towel and thats it. I mean, how many time does it cost to clean the bike nearly every day this way? 8-10 Hours a week, just for cleaning?

And ALWAYS use a chain wear indicator too, it will save you $1000's over a few short years

My wife and I have just purchased two E-MTB's can I use the same system on are drive train or are there any variants? Thanks.

Thanks for the video. Is that a Klein frame in the background?

Great tip with the magnet at 5:47!

pipe cleaners are also pretty handy for cleaning the cassette!

Wippermann confirms on their website to wash out the conservation grease. I use Interflon Eco M100+ degreaser. Blow dry and grease with a chain oil with an evaporant. Let it rest overnight. Take the chain off first. Standard practice in industry

Nice tutorial 👌

You cannot rinse the bike with such a strong stream of water, you are causing the water to seep into places they shouldn’t get in.

I wash my chains with gasoline with a brush (cleans away the muddy grease) , after clean with warm soapy water , and dry out on hot surface , or in sunrise, Muc Off dry lube, then go ride, this procedure 3-4 time / week, or after each muddy ride

Paraffin is great to clean chains about 8 quid for 4 litres in diy shop in the uk

How can I have a magnet like yours?

Man I was hopping for a magic spay that would shed mud away, this is nothing but a lot of work and once a season type thing (fore me), but I guess when your racing it's worth it

When can I bring my bike..?😉 Solid work bro

I clean my drive train almost every ride. I normally get around 3800 km out of my xx1 chain

8:10 Butterknife trick is great. Thanks for the tip!

Well, this is the right video for Pressure washer cleaning and oil lube haters. Everyone here seems to be owner of the truth. I like to spend some time cleaning my bike, gives you the oportunity to inspect the bike for debris or any other stuff. And for you haters: I use silicone Spray on fork stanchions, cassette and chainring (and yes, wheel on the bike) before any ride.

Put something on your disc before spry- lubing......

What do u think about waxing the chain. And u will rest from all this headache

Would be cool to see a comparison with or without this treatment

by pressure washing the rear sprocket, all the grease and mud goes to the rear sprocket. It's a big mistake. if so, direct the nozzles from the side of the shield or vertically from above onto the rack.

When I see this kind of video I think how much cleaner life track racers have, especially indoor.

I love waxing my chain. The whole drive chain is also covered by wax after one ride

Masterlinks CAN be reused if they specifically say so on the product description, KMC makes them and many that are not strictly reusable can, and have been reused with no problems.

Can you add a list of the stuff you used?

Nice tips👍

It’s a lovely orbea 🤩👌

After all that work, your video ends up a good promotion for Zwift! 😉

finishline green = dirt magnet. check ausbikers vids on ultimate chain lube (diy wax+teflon powder) works great.

Any tips on how to degrease/clean the brushes you use? If not, i imagine after some time you will just spread the old grime

Great video, thanks. Would you recommend Eagle or XTR when thinking about mud clearance and ease of maintenance? My experience with older Shimano groupsets was that mud builds up quite easily in the cassette for example.

Do you have any tips for battling clay mud?. If it gets wet here I can’t even get off the pavement for 5 minutes before the wheels are packed tight

Using a pressure sprayer is the worst way to clean your bike. Water gets in your bearings , use pledge furniture spray ,spray everything on the bike an the dirt wipes off after riding with a rag. Spray the pledge first .

Beautiful! 1. Use guest WC towels 2. Using Ozy’s latest ptfe wax works even better on chain, in wettest UK 3. Sonic bath, decreases the chain best 4. Don’t get caught by the wife using guest towels 5. Mix a glass of gin&tonic, because you deserve it!

Thanks for the video! - very helpful. I'm curious if there is a DIY degreaser you recommend? or something I can buy from the grocery store? Like dishwashing soap? You're going to pay much more for a "bike" degreaser. Thanks.

Squirt chain lube !

What are your thoughts on soaking the chain in wax after cleaning?

This is good product.