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EXACTLY!!! 👍👌

Mr Tech 6D mark II has great dynamic range, it may not be the best at iso 100 or 200 but when you push it to ISO 400 it becomes on par with Canon’s professional line of FF cameras. Again do your research and don’t be a slave to spec sheets.

Agree 💯hahahaha

yes. 2years late but yes! hahahaha

thanks for your comment! If you wanna talk photography, the original 6D has better dynamic range for stills and a second hand Canon 5D mkiii is the same price and substantially better for stills.

Kinotika Thank you!

Venkat Karthik I Agree with you. I'm not into videos

I agree :) I think part of the problem is youtube, of course people who upload videos here care about video... About the dynamic range: I don´t think you notice a real difference between the 6d ii and the 6d. Serious landscape photographers use bracketing anyways. I just bought one brand new for 1000€ so I´m very happy about the price/performance

Not true at all. " If you wanna talk photography", please stop trying to talk videography when reviewing a camera that is designed for stills. The 5D Mk III does not beat the 6D MK II in any way. That just proves that you want to cheap out and get a youtube video channel using a DSLR. . As a matter of fact, it was clear from the specifications that the focus of the engineers who designed this camera didn't even TRY to make people believe it was going to be a great video rig. The codecs were not competitive for video, for a reason. You may have to suck it up and get a dedicated camcorder/video camera for this type of videography. Some youtubers can get away with using DSLR's for vlogging, but that's not what you are doing here. For the demands that you are making on this type of recording, it was clear from the get go that this isn't the proper tool for the job. It's like trying to eat soup with chopsticks. :)

Truer words never spoken. 👏

I have it I only take photos and I love it

I do find KZfaq reviews frustrating for this reason. If they titled the review as a review for video I'd have no issues but there are tons of camera reviews that only look okay video. I'm not sure if I'll ever use a camera for that, my cell phone is already adequate and honestly I can't be bothered to edit video so what footage I have rarely gets used. I was torn between this, the 80D, and the M50 and you'd think all they do is video from the reviews.

@@RichFreeman Spot on! I used mine this weekend and am really excited about the features. If I were shooting videos--I would but a video system.

Chris, thanks god that there are still people, who know how to use brain and are able to evaluate purpose of each product. This is entry ticket to FF world for lowest possible cost! Plain and simple. I am so tired of this wannabe informative trash on youtube...oh and by the way to rest of you - enjoy 4K content on your 720P mobiles

Thanks for your kind words and Im happy you enjoy your new camera! Certainly from a 7D its a dramatic upgrade. I will Kindly disagree with you about 4k however. About half of my views on this channel come from computers, and Macbook pros from 2012 on...not to mention 5k iMacs ....and all these computers display higher than 1080p resolution. Also, 4k always is the best format to record in to get amazing 1080p. A photographer taking 24MP photographs never delivers that resolution. Resolution of instagram posts are only 2MP. So does that mean we should only have 2MP sensors on our iPhones and cameras? Same argument there works for video. The benefit of shooting higher resolution is for image sharpness, color detail, and the ability to crop in post. SOOO if we are delivering in 4k now...obviously its the same for that with 4k being the new standard rather than 1080p...so thats where 8K comes in. Same story.. an 8K image downresed to 4k is going to give us a better image plus it'll allow us to crop in post with a true 4k deliverable.

Don't bother! Some people don't even have basic knowledge of video/film aesthetics, but I love the way you have explained it here.

Abhinav Varun Revis My hole thing is about what the human eye can actually see. I get the the reason for downgrading 4K to get the sharpest and best quality picture you can. I have been doing test shots with my 6D Mark II and getting amazing stuff and like I said before there is short comings with any type of technology. If this had 4k in it I would love to have it. I am only going to be shooting KZfaq stuff not any type of client stuff and this camera is perfect for me. I personally can’t justify the storage space for 4K just for KZfaq. The facts are 66% of all KZfaq videos in 2017 was viewed on 720 screens. I also agree with you that he did a great job with this video. I also just checked out your stuff and it’s very good. Go check out Calvin Kemppel’s stuff and it’s all shot in 1080. The Jordan video is amazing!

You might over rate 4K but many of us use it and love it. In 2018 there is really no excuse not to have it - codecs are friendlier now for editing at home, so that old excuse is getting tired. I can't imagine putting my modern full frame camera down and pulling out a crappy iPhone SE to record my video footage because the Canon camera can't even do that.....? Really....? I'm sure it's a good camera - I had the 6D and loved it. But the crop Nikon D500 blows that camera clear out of the water, and the 6D Mark II isn't much better than the mark I. That's the problem..... It shouldn't be like this, Canon can? lol Canon should....

Amen!

Glad you liked it!

So is a canon 5D mkiii which came out five years ago and is a better camera for the same price.

You're annoyingly sure of yourself.. Its not exactly a good personality trait.. Especially over someting as subjective as camera choice

Thanks bro!

@@Diesel6Power $1000 now

If you paid $1900 for this, at _any_ point, you're an idiot.

Thank you! Not including ALL-I is unacceptable in my opinion

I don't care about video either - it's just me-me-me-millenial 'influencers' just wanting to upload selfie narcissistic videos on KZfaq!

Color science crushes the Sony, lens selection way better value....I have a Sony mirrorless a7ii and my fiancees original 6d takes way better pictures straight from camera.

Good! Glad you like your camera and don't think you were overcharged for it!

Overcharged! It is Canon, I would rather be overcharged by Canon than Sony! Anyway I made the cost back in two jobs. ;-)

The excuses of accepting reality that you made the wrong purchases is that “it’s a full frame” lol

I don't understand your comment Joel. Were you talking to the guy who made the video or myself? If you're talking to me, then I have absolutely no regrets in buying the 6D2. It is a pleasure of a camera.

Do you have anything that you dont like about the Canon 6D II as a photographer ?

Interesting! Thanks for the kind words!

5D Mark V with articulating screen and latest processor with a slight uptick in resolution and I am in too!! My 80D has been awesome so far though but will definitely go full frame with next body. I have never even switched on video mode on my 80D as I actually like photography.

My story now.. it takes beautiful pictures like even higher quality but I hate all the videos coming from this camera.. I do beauty and I never see my contours/shadows.. I see something in the mirror..I dont see it in my camera..I thought I was crazy ... my sister thought I was exaggerating the terrible video part of it.. and I ve bn trying to sell it and no one wants it... just a huge waste of money

If you are ONLY a photographer then you would be much better served with a 5D mkiii! It gives you much better feature that a photographer needs and better image quality for the same price.

Im so sorry to hear about your injury. I cant imagine being out of the industry that long. Im so glad youre back at it. Honestly, at this point, I would start to look at other manufactures. Canon is so slow and crappy. Im jumping ship to Panasonic. If youre a photographer more than a videographer, I would look into either the fuji system or even the Olympus EM1 mkii.

The only problem with changing brands is all that glass, I have acquired. I would have to spend a mint to match it.

Great! Glad you like it. I have the benefit of trying all sorts of cameras from different manufacturers and I can honestly say that the 6D mkii is most certainly overpriced and that the 1080p is extremely soft. My GH2 from 2009 had sharper 1080p. Even canons own older 80D is better. And it has been proven that the older 6D has better DR. I’m glad you like it. There’s more to like than just image quality. Like the DPAF and flip out screen. But that’s not enough for me. I get that on my better 80D

The a7ii is much cheaper with more af points, better spread Although maybe worse, would need a side to side test. The a7r2 is sharper and not much more expensive

Dynamic range is not about correct exposure - you can expose correctly and still dig out a lot of detail in the light and shadows. Dynamic range is about detail, not simply exposure.

lee simons aeh. No. Dynamic range is exactly about Exposure, it says how much info there is in lights and shadows, not about Detail, at all. Youre just wrong

No... no... no I am not. The human eye has 20 stops of dynamic range - we can see the detail in shadows and highlights far better than any camera can - and we don't do exposure settings biologically. Dynamic range is just that DYNAMIC RANGE. It's to do with seeing the large and minute detail in light graduations - it's how sensitive we are at perceiving these ranges of graduations. If you over expose or under expose then sure - you can bring back that detail depending on how good your sensor is. But being able to bring back detail is not the same as recording that detail - and that's what dynamic range is. Honestly.....

Yup. That would be incredible. But canon is a corporate BS company. It’ll be ten years before we see any growth lol

Kiywii hi man i am a biginner in videography , i am confused if i pick up 6d ii or 80d , i shoot surfing sports from beach send, clifs, rocks, i want to go with canon my be for the Af, but for my small budjet what you advise me i am not a bloger i want to shoot small films 15mints to 20 mins for surfers and nautique sports . tacke 80d with 100 400 L4,5 5,6 ii =1018p and profit from the good focus. or take gh5 with panasonic 100 400 = 4k but manual focus who can i improvete if its possible by experiance i am 1 team shooter. considering that i will focus just surfers riding waves and traking them surfing please advice me with cam i have to bay for that oerpos , especialy surfers want good images quality for work thanks.

Wow thank you for the kind compliment! I’m a small channel but if I continue to grow we promise to not be a sell out. Nothing more cringe than being a suck up. And nothing fulfilling about that. I want to be proud of my career at the end of the day and that starts with total honesty.

What are your settings?

Yup. Really sad. And because it’s full frame and has good AF and flip out screen vloggers thing it’s the best. But it just isn’t. The 5d IV 1080p is actually really great. Not to mention it has 4K as well

Kinotika haha yep, I've seen ways where you can get the 6d mk II for $1300 after rebates, it might be worth that. Anyways I subscribed when this channel had like 50 subs. I loved the SL2 video, keep up the great work

You speak truth #canon

But seriosly, how many of you there use 4k? Its so much more work and time to edit and everybody watches on mobile devices in 1080p. Think about it, why all music videos are still being recorded in 1080p?

Thanks! I think for stills and vlogging this camera is fine! But the 5d3 for the same price offers better performance for stills and even video with the ability to shoot raw using magic lantern.

Weird! Ya I wish it had ALL-I. Idk why they left it out

Don't regret, it. It's a good photography camera. There are some good positive reviews out there. This guy is over the top.

Thanks bro!!! Totally. This camera really sucks for the money. So glad you found our channel. I’m having fun making these. I hope to see you around.

HI guys, you two have tested the 80d and the 6d mark 2. I have the 80d and I want to go on a full frame camera. SO if the 6D mark 2, doesn't t worth it, what would be your best advise for me ? Thanks

Jimmy Marone Just go for 6D mark 2. No better option for actual price.

I really think that this guy hasn't a clue as to what he's doing, or if he does, he has succeeded in proving that he picked the wrong tool for the job at hand. This video was doomed from the very beginning by the pretense of the job at hand. I think he really likes schadenfreude, as every time he comments, it's about how "bad" this camera is. It's almost as though he set this up for failure by design.

Hi, Im using D750 and just coming back from the shop whih i found closed early tonight, I was going to buy the 6D Mark ii and lucky me still have some time to think and i found that video. If you tested the D750 could you give me advice is it really worth it or should I start looking for other one which is Full frame and that with the video really did not gave me peace when I was walking to the shop cuz i know Im gonna need good video in some point in my work.

Absolutely dude! Maybe consider upgrading to the Canon log on your 5D4. I personally have been eye balling it. Hold out on 1DX2 for a few months dude. NAB and Cine Gear are around the corner and I feel like Canon has some amazing new stuff on the horizon

Kinotika Yep! Just got my 5D4 back from Canon last week with the c-log update. Loving it. My fingers are crossed for a big canon reveal at the events in a couple months. Praying for a 5D5 with a flip out screen that shoots 120fps at 1080p. Ha! #inourdreams

I heard as well - that the 6D Mk 2 is good in low light. Important to me.. for photo shooting.

Smart choice! The 5Div is only $1k more and way way way better than 6dII in every way. Thanks for your kind words and for your comment!

I have the 80d, going through the same thoughts whether to get the 6d mk2 or 5d mk4, don't care about the video, everything is pointing to the mk4

@@connormccaskill ONLY $1k more? That's a huge amount of money for most people, I would think. I rarely shoot video, and am wanting to upgrade from a 70D, and was hoping your video was going to help un-muddy the waters.

Canon M50 coming soon! Rumored to shoot 4K. Well see

Really good way to put it! I wish Canon would make a 5D IV type camera with a flip out screen.

That has been their previous business model. But now things are changing and they are going to start including 4k

Totally!!! The new hack for GH5 focus really works too! Amazing stuff

lol. My favorite comment

Awesome! I used Final Cut Pro X to add the graphics. You should check it out

I will ... Thanks so much ...

Hi Jumbo Jet,what camera do you use ? I am also from the Netherlands btw.Ps my dad works at KLM.

Thanks for your comment! Honestly the issue is the price. If the 6Dmkii was $999 it’d be a different discussion. The fact that they are pricing it at $1900 makes it a very over priced camera. You can buy a 5D IV for not much more than that on eBay and the 5D IV is substantially better. The sad thing is the original 6D is honestly not much different than the 6Dii. If all you care about is a flip out screen then this is your only option for full frame. But if dual pixel af and canon colors are what you want, just save your money and buy 5D IV. In a way, I’d almost recommend a 5D3 over the 6Dii for photographers.

The price is bad yea, you're right about that. But saying it "sucks" is somewhat uncalled for. I got mine for $1699, I couldn't justify paying 2K for it with it's specs. You do get canon colors in the 6D Mark II, you do get dpaf in it. Also, I hope you do realize that the 5D mark IV is roughy $3400 new and about $2800 - $2900 used ( body only ), MANY of us do not have that money, even if you minus the 6D II's current cost from it, it's rougly a $1250, $950, and $850 difference! That's lense money! You can get a fast glass for that price! That's what's important. I'm sick of people watching gear and letting it prevent that from doing what really matters, CREATING. That's what peter Mckinnin, Travel feels, and Casey emphasizes, it's about the story! It's a good low light camera, yes the dynamic range sucks, yes, it sucks for pro filmmaking ( whatever that means at this point since the pros are using it ). And as fo rthe 5D3, let's just say, that the camera is alot more accessible in the sense that it has many features pros enjoy, eg. Joystick! The sensor in the 6DII is actually better than the 5D 3, it has a better processor, and a screen that lets you compose a good image, something the 5D3 does not have, 5D3 will be outdated in another year or year and a half ( not that age matters ) For the people out there that actually want this camera but is uncertain, let me be a testimony, it's an amazing little camera, it's costly, but the image is amazing. it has soft 1080P, but the focus is consistent, the sensor does me justice in the dark. If you wan to see images that it has taken you may view my Instagram at @kashif.robinson. I'm no pro photographer, I'm still learning, and If I'm bad, imagine what you could do if you actually know what you're doing. Go pick up a copy if you want it man!

I know! INSANE!

My pleasure!

Kinotika 👊🏿

It’s a higher resolution than 1080p. Basically, better video quality.

It's a resolution measure. 1080p, the "standard" nowadays, is half that of 4K. A 1080p image (or video) is 1920 pixels wide by 1080 pixels high. A 4K image (or video) is 3840 pixels wide × 2160 pixels wide. So, 4K is double the vertical resolution of 1080p.

The Astute Angler 3840x2160 is UHD...4K is 4096x2160 !

so 2x2 ( 2 vertical and 2 horit ) is 4 times the rosolution if i count well ;-)

Thank you.

Lol

Pls do been trying to sell mine since 1 month..its just a pain to sell.. when I take pictures, it's very very sharp but I do more videos and that us where it sucks. I search for my shadows like am nuts... the highlights just there but where are the shadows.. pls run from this camera if you do a lot of videos but if you are into photos..with a great lens, this is perfect...

You should've bought a video camera. That's a no brainer.

That's what I've been thinking like cool other brands have mirrorless, canon can create that as well if they wanted to

Wait, it costs 2000 dollars? Come on son haha

Overpriced and awful quality. A total piece of crap

Lol ya. Of course. I was using that for another comparison that wasn't related to this video actually. Thats B roll for something else. I was shooting on 24L, 16-35L, and 70-200L only on the 6DII my entire trip and was extremely unimpressed. 5D3 has better results.

how can you attach 10-18mm on 6d2? Mine doesn't fit

@@whateveryoucall7031 There is a hack for that, basically you have to cut out a piece of the rear of the lens. And when you put it on full frame, you can only use it from 14-18mm for photos without strong vignette. And for video, if you do it in 4k then you can do it at 12mm without the vignette too. There are some tutorial videos on youtube

@@PeacePham1991 thanks for the explanation man

Totally. Get a GH5S instead. I am making the switch myself.

It’s like a camera that came out five years ago. 80D is sharper and cleaner and $1,000 cheaper

I know!! If they just added 4K to the 6Dii even without the headphone jack.. it’d be the best youtuber camera on the market

Absolutely agree dude! So spot on. Forget the price even. This camera is unacceptable in 2018. Just plain and simple. The 80D out performs it. Insanity.

Wrong. GH5S for video people is basically perfect. And there is absolutely a perfect camera. They just purposefully don't make it.

A7 iii

It is full frame mate.

micro 4/3 vs FF...pleaseeeeee

Full frame Vs Super 35 on the GH5 with a speedbooster mate. It's an INCREDIBLE camera.

It depends. For us it's the best camera on the market. In fact, it's the only one which has the specs we were looking for. We are not Canon fan boys, nor Canon has sent us the camera. We paid for it, so this is not a biased opinion. During 2017 we were using a Lumix g85 with 7-14 f/4 for talking scenes and a Sony a6500 with Sigma 30mm f/1.4 for b-roll. - About the Lumix: The autofocus was crap, totally crap. We had a baby and we were vlogging while pushing the babycar and also focusing manually so it was the biggest pain in the ass ever. As we are a couple, we are changing the focused subject (our faces) quickly depending on who is talking and also focusing on far places and then focusing back to our face. Lumix cameras can't to that (except the new g9 focusing system). Also, the f/4 was useless even inside our home. In Japan, it gets dark about 5:00PM so we were using that camera over 800 and 1000 ISO most of the time. Obviously, the subject isolation is impossible with the m43 lenses and the tiny sensor. So it was also a negative point. - About the Sony: From the start, this camera is useless for vlogging hahaha. The lack of flip out screen makes it useless for shoot yourself. Yes, you can point at your face and you will be in focus because of the nice face tracking, but we care about composition, correct exposure, and we need to see the screen to check if it's recording or not. All the Sony mirrorless cameras on the market are useless for our purposes. Only for b-roll 👍🏻 - About the Canon: It has all we were looking for. Flip-out screen, full frame, beautiful colors (although we were ok with Panasonic and Sony colors), wider aperture on lenses like 16-35mm f/2.8 and then, subject isolation is beautiful. And the thing that "saved our life", the best autofocus ever. It's just amazing! Since we are using this camera we are not worried about being in focus, the IQ and dynamic range are good for our liking. We compared the videos shot with the g85 and the 6D Mark II in the same scene and they have about the same dynamic range (6D m2 a little better) and the sharpness was about the same in both camera. But for some reason, the images that 6D m2 produces were more pleasant to our eyes than the Lumix. Maybe the depth of field and the colors are the reason. The lack of 4K don't bother us because we had two 4K cameras and never shot in 4K hahaha. Also, tons of reviewers complained about the IPB codec, but we were comparing the 5D Mark IV All-i and the 6D Mark II IPB and can't tell the different. Maybe in a bigger screen it's noticeable but not in a 15" Macbook Pro. The thing we don't like about this camera is something no one is mentioning, the bad pre-amp... the sound is awful hahaha. It crushes when we talk loud and it is so low if we talk with a normal volume. There is no middle ground 😅 Our mic. is a Rode VideoMicro. Also, it seems the IQ changes a lot depending on the used lens, which is obvious. There are 6D Mark II reviews with bad image quality like yours or Dustin Abbott, but other reviews with good IQ like the Creative Ryan one. He used a Sigma 24mm f/1.4 and it was sharp. We are using a Canon 16-35mm 2.8 III and it's sharper than your footage in this video. Maybe it gets better if using proper lenses? Of course, this is our experience and usage. For other purposes like interviews, weddings, comercial... there are better options like GH5 or Sony if we're talking about mirrorless. But this camera costs $1300 in Japan, we had Canon L lenses at home and we use it specifically for vlogging and create content on social media. It's good enough for that!👍🏻

Absolutely no. I actually own this camera and bought it regardless of all this crap you and everyone talk about, all this kind of reviews mainly work for people who's focused on specs and obviously that is somewhat important, but people should really consider their style and what specs they really need to achieve that style. Personally I love the camera and regret nothing about my decision of buying this camera. I looked for an affordable full frame body, weather sealed, better and cleaner high ISOs, Canon's color, great battery life and a camera that would actually work and wouldn't fail at the middle of action, that has GPS, and more. So, for me, it was the right camera and I'm happy with it.

Hey Kinotika, this is a great review, thank you for your honestly. Here’s a question for you...you said that big youtubers like Casey Neistat and Peter MacKinnon and the travel feels guy all praise this camera a full year plus after it was released and everyone bashed it. Do you think that canon is paying them to push this camera? It feels very odd to me that they all switched at the exact same time out of no where and all the sudden this camera is just great, even though it’s been on the market for so long. Just a though. Anyways, great stuff

I own 5dmk4 and 1DXmk2 and I still mostly use the 6dmk2, especially for personal stuff I had 6d mk1 and 80d and this is much better product. It is not the best camera, but it one of the better all around ff cameras.

Another lack of 4k moaner. The 6D mk2 was never getting 4k to begin with. If you want a camera that does it, buy one, there are plenty to choose from.

Thank you!

So happy to help you dodge a bullet!

Thanks for your comment! Yes obviously I’m skewed because I’m a filmmaker and the video specs are worse than the cheaper older brother the 80D. I think that’s simply unacceptable because the 80D is designed for the same level of person as the 6Dii so I believe the 80D should set the standard for the above $1k dslr from canon. Just my opinion

I understand your concern, but the 6D is the 6DII older brother no? 80D is crop APS-C and both 6D are FF.