EOSHD has got such a whiny attitude it's made his blog really annoying to read lately. Shame because he shares useful information it's just wrapped in such negativity. Not surprised he didn't reach out to you privately before blasting you on his blog; he knows how much attention he can generate from drama.

Tony when people start killing their R5's by defeating the protection Canon put into the Camera are you going to cover the cost of replacement? Might want to put a disclaimer "Do not try this at home"

Andrew is a loon

Jonathan Thill lol I don’t think it’s going to kill their camera. Removing cmos battery isn’t anything new in computers. It’s clear that canon is just “allowing” people to taste 8k. Personally I’ve always hated canon as they release one little feature and hold back for future releases and every little release is an “update” or “upgrade”. Canon has always purposely held back certain features and charged a premium to what other companies have been selling for a reasonable price. If it’s got a heat sink and automatic shut off with the actual over heating then it will shut down via software like it already does. What they are doing is just absolute bs for someone to pay $4000 on a camera that is being programmed not to even function at what they say it will do. I’m not chasing the resolution bandwagon that everyone else is on but canon is garbage and always will be. They didn’t even add 1080 60p for the longest time which is a feature found on iPhones. The cameras that did shoot it, well they used to cost over $6000. They separate “pro” from “consumer” and lump the features together for each and the pro is charged a premium where the consumer level just lacks any useful features. They want idiots to buy this camera and their “professional” cameras as they cost way more. There’s plenty of other companies who give way more features than unusable 8k. People are just foolishly attracted to resolution like it will make everything better, which it won’t. Stick to 4k or go buy the new Ursa 12k or an 8K red. Canon blows and has some serious marketing and quality checks to figure out.

If you block the battery compartment door open sensor then you can trick it into not writing values into temp memory and then you just pop out the main lithium battery and pop it back in and it resets the time (to five minutes each time, not twenty though), see thread on DPREVIEW. So there is no need to go through the mess of opening it all up and trying to manage to install some hack switch and break sealing and so on.

i was not nervous until i saw your comment, can't be unseen now... O.O

What do think going to happen? Tony sneezes and hits the table hard enough to knock it off? Haha

@Fraser, What does a camera's political views have to do with anything? 😏

Thank you! I was about to comment this too. Yeah, it's right on the edge!

@@jries77 Ha, underrated comment! The camera is kneeling at the edge there protesting about overheating.

Biden is the new Bush 😂 I hate them both

As George Bush would say...Don't listen to these conspiracy theorists!

Internets..

@@tropicaldany9306 The Google told us so...

It's canon cripple timer. The "timergate"

Minimum Viable Product. Sounds about right. I've been saying for decades that early adopters, people who preorder, and people who stand in long lines to buy new tech are paying for the privilege of being Beta Testers.

I think you're absolutely right.

This is exactly my theory as well! Thank you for articulate that so well

Yeah, this seems plausible. I wouldn't be surprised if Canon releases an official firmware update to improve it once the devs get more time with it.

Sounds like a good theory. I guess we can't know for sure if it's the Canon cripple hammer or your run-of-the-mill beta code hammer. If a firmware update appears and fixes it then it was probably the beta hammer.

Sony did this with their Cinema line in the F5 years ago... a 4k capable cinema camera crippled to HD and they got caught when a clever camera guy changed a .ini file and got 4k resolution out... - it forced Sony to offer 4k as a PAID upgrade... Canon isnt the first company to cripple their own stuff to protect their product line...

Great news, but we’re talking about Canon right now. No need to shift the subject to another company and move the spotlight away from Canon

TRNDSTTRS hush

@@HAlariousInc The subject never shifted, they used a comparison and still ended their point by going back to Canon. Sony did it first, Canon is doing it now. Subject was never changed.

I still use the SL1 machine with mlraw.. 🙏😊

Hopefully

They aren't. There hasn't been any progress with getting into the modern Canons since about the 5Ds/r. Plus it was really one or two guys who have moved on.

Yak Almighty 😂😂😂

Greetings from Sweden! Home of Mjölnir.

At least they didn't cripple the camera to basic 4K 30 like Sony did with their A7III and A7RIV (and those all overheat in 4K 30)... hmmmm.

77dris ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 i knew this dude was coming 🧑‍🦯🧑‍🦯🧑‍🦯🧑‍🦯

You won the comments for the day lol

ahahha as a Dragon Ball's fan I understand...

Matt Drake Because its much more expensive?

To be fair, EOSHD was just forwarded that forum post by one of his readers. It's not actually his test, he's just putting his opinion on it.

@@brazillmedia5802 Guess you missed my own tests with my own EOS R5 and the 4 articles beforehand then. API. Wifi. Android app. Ring any bells?

@@EOSHDTV I did see those, but was just referring to the one about the battery removal. However, I do actually think he should have credited you here, because it's very unlikely that they would have ever seen this if not for your post.

@@brazillmedia5802 Tony was clearly watching EOSHD as he's got at least two EOSHD tabs open in his browser. More than a few KZfaqrs are mentioning these topics and referring to EOSHD as their source of discovery so what makes Tony any different?

@@j_cooks Yeah, you are right. I didn't realize that he only linked to the forum without giving any credit to the site that made the test well known to most of us.

This is something Canon would do.

Dont update the firmware then. U already have good lens selection in latest firmware.

Had the exact same thought when he said that.

I thought the same

My thoughts exactly. Just like Marques had a few tries where he used Doug's quirks line

I have literally never watched one of his videos, but I've seen his overheating testing and he seems really thorough. FWIW I don't watch any photography channel, and part of that is wanting to NOT (consciously or unconsciously) be influenced by someone's style.

Tony & Chelsea Northrup I don’t think it’s that your copying his style. Gerald starts all his videos with a comment he reads from users that introduces himself with something humorous. Also wouldn’t it be helpful to watch other channels for tips and tricks on what you can do differently ?

I'm on a *BOAT*

NOPE. The camera itself is literally lying to you. It flashes and tells you it's overheating when it is not.

I think it’d be fine if all we had to worry about was how much memory we had and not worry if the camera would actually be able to function when shooting anything 4k or lower. I never expected my R5 to be able to shoot 8k continuously, but 4k60p and 4k120p in bursts??? Come on. The 5dm4 and the 1dx’s can do that

@@jaegerschtulmann Because Canon probably doesn't want to risk camera sensors and internals getting and is playing it save. Every camera overheats. And the R5 works reliable pithing its defined parameters. A time/heat limit including indicators etc is not unreliable. After all you should also keep in mind that those cameras are photography devices with weather sealing in a closed body. For this, what they are capable of is already amazing. But if you need reliable video recording devices neither Canon nor Sony nor other manufacturers offers a regular mirrorless or DSLR for that, there are specific video devices for this job (and the mentioned manufacturer have them)

Got sick of Cannon's shenanigans many years ago and switched over to Sony. Funny thing is, I still use a few adapted Cannon lenses :P

Why doesn't any of the Cinema camera from Canon has 8K or 4k 120p?

Jeff Luo because they don’t use sensors that have a high enough resolution. Because of the R5’s photographic spec sensor, 45MP they have the resolution to get 8K video out of it. Cinema cameras are like the Sony A7SIII, just enough resolution on the sensor as they need to output 4K or 6K...

@@shadow7037932 is not so much for the folks who can't afford a cinema camera but it's more like, why would those who will buy cinema cameras would want to spend that much. For example many who were considering buying the Sony FX9 will now wait for the Sony a7siii.

Thanks für this True comment

The David Attenborough of camera KZfaq

Well if they were false I think Canon would have said something...

I have seen little that convinces me that this is a software limit and not a hardware one. The battery removal only tricks the camera into thinking it’s running for the first time; every time. If I remove the Rev limiter (software rewrite) on my car, yes it now revs to 10krpm and it will do so until it doesn’t as it wasn’t designed to do that and it will fail at some point. That could be 1hr, 1 week, 1year but it will fail as the hardware wasn’t designed for that. This is a dangerous video and somebody is going to do this mod and it’s going to end in tears with £4K wasted. Wait for Canon to rewrite the firmware, they will probably edit the thermal limits and software interaction to allow longer and quicker return to recording. You really think their engineers couldn’t figure out how to remove a battery or just turn the overheat protection off.

@@anthonykenny5250 Agreed. Plus for some reason every KZfaq reviewer seems to be ignoring the test from over a week ago when someone was able to record 69 minutes of 8K by cooling the camera off in the freezer for hours beforehand.

I've been suspicious ever since people showed it overheating at about the same time (and needing the same recovery time) irrespective of whether or not the camera is in front of an AC unit running at full blast, or right under a heat lamp.

Now that is something I wanna see tested

hmmm i will try this rn

i just tried no good.

It probably has a seperate countdown clock which is stored in the memory. When removing the battery the values are lost.

Huh? What has a stopwatch timer have anything to do with a clock for date and time? That doesn't even make sense.

No pun intended right 😂?

drama queen, he didn't do the test himself

Peter McKinnon reported it on his pre release version.

Rick is a nice and smart guy. Be like Rick 🙏🏻👌🏻

Sony and Panasonic are reverse engineering the R5 right now.

Not a lot! Levelled off now.

That is over. In 2019, Canon sales were up 2.4% to 45.4% of the market share. Sony only grew 0.9% to 20,2%. Canon CRUSHED Sony.

Let’s see what happens when Sony releases their next batch of hybrids in the next six months. My prediction is that it will result in Canon playing catch up yet again and more Canon shooters jumping ship. And as a Canon shooter who’s heavily invested in Canon glass I take no joy in predicting this.

I wouldn't go that far CRUSHED! LOL but yes they did do better in 2019 in the FF market. 2020 is going to be interesting for Canon and Sony we'll see.

Brandon H Yeah man. Have you seen Canon’s top management? Canon’s CEO is 84. Their Japanese corporate structure must be stiff as hell. If oldtimers from the telegraph era are steering the company, it’s no wonder the company is messed up..

That guy is owed many apologies. He'll never get any though. Those who attacked him are scum.

drama queen, he didn't do the test himself

@@vipersrt30 you're spamming that same statement across the comments, time you GTFO.

The only one deserving credit is the guy from China, if anything EOSHD should apologize for falsely claiming that Tony stole 'his' story because he saw 2 EOS tabs open in Tony's browser not realizing those are google docs. This guy is yet again making a fool out of himself.

@Strawberry Kiys But EOSHD has been on this from the beginning and he has legions of enemies from having done so, enemies who will remain enemies forever. EOSHD needs and deserves support from those who agree with his work.

I dunno, I need to test this further.

This actually seems plausible. One of the reasons the 1D series of cameras is able to deliver its top-end constant framerate (ish) is due to the engineering of its batteries. If you use a battery from a previous generation, even though it is physically compatible, Canon usually advises that it will affect your top frame speeds because of the lower power delivery. I would imagine the LP-E6NH probably suffers from this given its two cell design and the increased power requirements of the R5 with its mirrorless technology (mainly the always-on displays).

No. There are many cameras out there where this happens. I'm also pretty sure that some Nikon(?) cameras only provide the full burst rates when the optional battery grip is installed. It seems that a certain amount of power is necessary to reach "full speed". Btw. some testers can confirm that the full burst rate also works with much lower than 60% battery charge.

Batteries deacrease in voltage as they run down. Less voltage -> slower motors, or slower recharging of caps that drive the motors. I guess they did it to keep consistency.

Haha, yes, Tom's a boss for that!

For all you know, Tom does the whole article 10 times over until he gets one that he can post without any cuts. Which would only make his problem with the R5 even bigger than anyone else's.

@@tnargs57 Huh interesting, I did not know about that. I was referring to the Fiji water (or some other bottled water) video of his where he apparently did it all in one take.

That's what happens when you comment before watching. :P

You can't put a heatsink on the sensor as it moves due to IBIS... The only way to cool the sensor would be to not have IBIS.

@@analogdopamine and that's what happens when you don't read the comment fully. Any new firmware won't solve the poor thermal cooling properties of the camera.

@@softrockification surely they would have thought of that BEFORE releasing the camera with said problems, hmmm?

@@NinhLyUK It doesn't really seem like cooling is the problem, even though the cooling solution is laughably bad. Quote from Andrew at EOSHD shows this: "The camera internal EXIF reported temperatures plateau at approximately 62C after 15 minutes of 4K HQ recording. They stay there, and nothing changes on the EXIF temperature reported by the sensor on the PCB when it reaches 30 minutes." So the cooling solution isn't the problem.

Maybe! Certainly getting something hot over and over can mess stuff up. It would still be nice if they gave you the operation to overdrive it a few times, like they do with launch mode on sports cars.

@@TonyAndChelsea Ooo..agreed. Plus the bonus of a good marketing "hook" too. ;) "Get the new R5 with 8K Overclocking Mode"

This was my initial thought also. It is far better to put a "safety" measure in place over potential damaging the components. That would be far worse than limited record times for Canon to explain, and deal with financially.

Normally you would put limitations like that in place to minimize the chance of component failure during the warranty period. A warranty call basically wipes out the profit from that sale, so you want as few failures as you can get away with. After the warranty has expired failure is OK.

Yeah, and it seems pretty obvious that temperature does have some effect on recording times when testers have been able to get 69 minutes of straight 8K by putting the camera in the freezer for hours before shooting... unless there is some other way to explain that.

A pc always works, overclocking just makes it a little faster..( We all know the disadvantages..) This camera just stops working... Do I need to say more? Canon was prepared to make us all excited and now people just want what they were promised...and that's perfectly understandable.. But maybe it is better to wait for an update before we start ripping apart cameras people..

I also personally feel that it was purposely done by Canon engineers, but they hid it from everyone. Including their own marketing department. I actually don't feel any positive or negative energy towards Canon. I just expected it from them. They usually try to limit the video features on their cameras, and this example is no different.

I do think it is hurting sales, i have heard of many cancelling their pre-order. The Sony is getting better reviews than the canon, as it is more usable for a pro shoot and this is the critical point for a working photographer. You can't wait for a camera to cool down while talent and clients are waiting.

I find the reasoning a little bit strange. Just a forum post and no further validation is a little bit thin to make a video like this. This needs further testing to make sure these are real aligations.

@@Jylakir i agree, it is here say, and people are referencing another channel, not there own testing. But i have been following this R5 overheating thing, and what is strange, how does it keep recording with a external recorder and the cards removed? The only answer is, if it is the cf express card that is overheating. So if you change it out, can it keep recording? These are questions i would like answered as it is all smelling a little fishy and it does look like Canon crippled the camera.

Have anyone reported it actually overheating?. Yes the camera shuts off saying it's overheated, but it actually isn't. It's just as normal as any other camera out there. This is pure software limitation.

Exactly, frying is an appropriate term. Components have heat tolerances and cycles before failure ... pushing these components too far and repeatedly as the camer is meant to take millions of images and hours of video in its life would likely see a lot of returns to Canon under warranty, so they put limits in software to stop people abusing it. If they used more tolerant components and a better design then perhaps the heat could be managed and allow unlimited filming in 8K but I expect the price would not be acceptable to the consumer. There is a reason Canons cinema camera (EOS C700 FF - PL) costs £32,000 and it is only 5.9K, not 8K. Looking at the spec of the CF700 i can't see any limitation of 5.9k recording time, perhaps CFast card size or battery determines that. But a videographer could buy 8 x R5's for the same money and just keep swapping them around, and/or multiple camera angles to equal continuous shooting of the CF700 and it would be in 8K as well.

Ok, I can't read Chinese but I did look at the test. There are some things I was wondering, and maybe you can help me figure out. I am able to read the translation, but sometimes things get lost that way... From what I can tell, they show the temp of the sensor and the CPU in the photos. It looks to me that the CPU continues to get hot while the sensor levels off at some point. Steady increase to temp at about 1C per minute. The highest temp we see is somewhere around 65C if I recall. But, they didn't show the temp after they pulled the battery and redid the timer. Did they not mention it either? It looks like he put the camera back together after that, and didn't check temps anymore. I am curious to know if this temp continues to rise after the workaround is applied, since if that is the case then it likely will get too hot at some point if the camera doesn't force cool down. Do they mention this? Do they mention if the temp of the CPU levels off at some point? I feel like the test only shows us evidence that a timer is involved, not that there is no overheating, or even that there isn't a logical reason for the timer, and the conclusions people are drawing is that overheating isn't real and it's just another Canon cripple. Knowing now how the camera monitors temp, I feel like if the CPU is the problem and it can't monitor that, then a timer might have been the only solution this late in development. Still shady, but not what everyone is saying it is. And they are using the Baidu test as a reference for these claims when they are drawing conclusions not found in that test.

I'm also thinking this. It is possible the record limit timers are artificial, but it's also possible that in testing the failure rate within 6 months or something becomes too high to accept

...and then it will be: "Canon sucks! They refused to repair my damaged R5 under warranty". It is so tragic, this "KZfaq" fed run into the abyss., it is almost funny...How I love the real world.

@@nimbuskhannk627 r5s haven't shipped yet tho? or have they, how can you ahve one and it's damaged,

@@cinialvespow1054 They have. I am referring to people going about circumventing the camera's thermal protection and then, I'll bet, being all pi**ed when Canon refuses to repair under warranty the cameras they fried that way.

I am not trying to be a Canon fanboi or attacking Sony, but every company does that. There were people once made A7III(Or A7SII?) to record 4K RAW with software twist, then Sony locked with firmware. Do take me example with doubt, since I did not read the full article as someone rarely into the video zone.

@@bigfoxki Even if this is true, it's not the same thing. This is Canon placing a "limit" on an advertised feature.

@@BryanKeithPhoto Yes, both are bad in their own category, not going to compare who is worse. One is false advertisement with crippling hammer, the other is hammer it back to crippling when it someone found a way to "un-crippled".

@@bigfoxki Way I see it those things are tantamount. In the end both companies crippled the user's ability to use the camera. One is just up front, the other is from behind. Both end up screwing the end user.

I believe Canon is just saying: This is an HYBRID CAMERA and 4000$ gives acess to THIS: 8k, the best IBIS out there, more photographic dynamic range than all Sony cameras (check photonstophotos.com) the best Auto Focus (as good as the A7SlllI), unbelieveble animal eye autofocus, etc... This is allready a LOT. No one is looking at that. Everybody want's the ALL-IN-ONE PERFECT CAMERA for 4000$. This camera is SO GOOD that it's video capabilities were IMMEDIATLY compared to the A7S lll, the "perfect video camera". Canon is also saying, if you want more video capabilities and no limitations you should look at te C-200 or C-300. It's a marketing thing. It's not desonesty. It's about POSITIONING your products, avoid competition between them. If this camera had no overheating issues or any other li,itations, how many people would discard buying C-200/300? On the other hand, it would be such a BEAST that it would bring people from Sony and all other brands. So... It's an option. And I'm sure that the next firmwares will solve a lot, or in high, degree these limitations.

It used to not tell you in the development model and 20 mins later it bursts into flames .... better be careful what you wish for.

We have a problem. 🙋

I'm a Nikon guy and Nikons doing dumb shit too but I'm to invested in their gear.

I think you should take a step away from these youtube channels overhyping the overheating performance of the R5. It's a brilliant camera all the way around (yes, I own it and I'm speaking first hand). It's without equal on the market today - nobody can touch what it does. Not Sony, not Nikon, not Fuji, not Panasonic. NOBODY. Sony just released their video-centric camera, the a7siii and it doesn't even attempt 8k and its stills abilities are way under what the R5 can do, AND they want almost as much for it as the R5 sells for. The R5 is so good it's selling on Ebay for over $5,000. Stop listening to these you tubers who only care about views and subs.

Canon is great, just enjoy your cameras, I do.

@@stevenallen3066 Well said, I'm loving mine so far. I'm a stills shooter first, so the R5 was a logical choice coming from the 5Dmk3. Plus the ergonomics are way better than Sony.

O_o;

Doesn't it work really well to adapt Canon class to Sony now?

@@advapp from what I've heard somewhat though the af is as bad as a nikon using video af from one person I heard.

Sony was good until they grabbed huge market share and started crippling cameras themselves. The Fx9 is $11,000 and can't shoot 6k even though it has the sensor to do so. It also can't shoot internal raw. The Sony A9 was a fantastic camera, but Sony intentionally crippled the video with codec options and no picture profiles

@@howardtownsend2574 nikon seems like other than video af they might make good cameras for it. D500 does 4k/30p (though with 1.5x crop) clean out 10 bit 4:2:2 n log with flat picture profile

@@advapp I use Canon glass on Sony with metabones and it works extremely well even with autofocus but if you're into video you're going to want native lenses

Yeah, the 30 minute limit is really infuriating, especially since it'll record standard (line-skipped) 4k/30 for HOURS.

Nah you can have it, you just can't use it.

Funny you say that because they are letting you have it. Name another mirrorless that has 8K raw or 4K 120 with 45 MP sensor? None? OK. Now let's remember what Sony announced a few weeks back about the A7SIII... they said they had that tech ready over 2 years ago, but didn't feel the need to release it. So they put out for sale the A7III and A7RIV with basic 4K 30 that overheats.... now who is zooming who there?

77dris Fumny there are always some that act like camera companies are their parents, jumping up to defend them as if their chastity is being violated or something. Why cameras have this Stockholm syndrome effect on them is an interesting question.

Why doesn't Canon's cinema camera like c500 c300 has 8k or 4k 120p if Canon has the tech? These big and expensive camcorders do have fans in them to dissipate the heat.

You should try the Canon Eos C700 FF PL .... 5.9k video recording for as long as you draw breath.

@@gwal93 I use C100s & C300s and I love them. The careful way Canon distributes valuable features across their cinema camera line always bugged me a little, but I've shot many hundreds of hours on a C100 and really love using it. I'm not sure I'd go full-frame if I had the money to spend $30k on a cinema camera. Some of the Super35 sensors are fantastic. It's all hypothetical because I don't have the cash for a real cinema camera. If any of us had the budget for real cinema cameras we wouldn't give a wet slap about these consumer mirrorless things.

I'm a Sony user, but I'm confused why he (and every other blogger) is ignoring the fact that someone was able to record 69 minutes of continuous 8K by cooling off the camera in a freezer beforehand. Seems to contradict these conclusions pretty directly.

@@brazillmedia5802 Agreed, but maybe he was not aware of this test (or maybe he doubts it). I also am wondering is this the same modder that did a full tear down and showed that there not only is no cooling solution on the CPU, but also the thermal pads from the RAM overlap onto it? This would lead to heat from the RAM moving onto the CPU, which then has no way to dissipate heat on it's own. I had a hard time believing any engineer would do this by design, so I have always doubted the breakdown, at least until we see it from more than one source. For the most part though, if that is the case, then heat build could be a real issue, and if that is the case, it can be dangerous to allow something that is you know, right against a persons face to heat up to the point that bad things can happen. I would agree the firmware is imposing a limit, but people are assuming it is for artificial reasons when it could be that they just don't know what will happen if they don't shut it down. A lot of it feels like at the very least some form of shenanigans has occurred. Really, no two ways about it. They either did a terrible job designing it for heat dissipation/displacement, or they are programming it to fail when it isn't. Neither of those things are going to win fans, no pun intended on that...

@@brazillmedia5802 If that is what you have to resort to just to make it work, then in no way is this camera a reliable video machine.

Me too. The thing that bugs me is Canon didn't put a built-in GPS unit in the R5 like is in the 5D Mark IV.

Same here, decided to sell our C200's and EF glass and go for Black Magic :)

If you think about it logically though, even without evidence, would you think just switching a camera on and leaving it so should eat into your recording time? Makes no sense, you haven't recorded anything yet and the camera is idle, but you've lost precious minutes on your already limited amount of record time. That can only be attributed to some sort of timer counting down, makes perfect sense then.

@@TheElocto Not Necessarily. If you turn on a computer with poor cooling, it is Idling at Desktop. The Temperature will start to raise up. In this example, we say the computer CPU will reach 70C in a long term idle. The computer CPU overheats at 100C. The Room Temp is 20C. We have a video to render. If we turn on the computer and start the render right away (CPU at around Ambient Temp 20C), we have a Temp Δ of 80C from Current Temp to Overheating. If we turn on the computer and let it idle for a long time, the CPU reaches 70C due to idling, and we have a Temp Δ of 30C from Current Temp to Overheating. I think it makes perfect sense. What we need to know is how poor the cooling is on the R5. (Probably not great) And will it overheat when idling/setting up the shot. Or what's the Max Temp when Idling.

you feel lost because of camera brand?

@@brankokosteski feel lost because I dont know which lenses will fit me better in the Sony camp.. I dont know enough about them and now sit with 2 problems .. have to get rid of all my current bodies and lenses .. and have to reinvest alot of time and even more money into a new system .. It's a daunting task..

Dobry pomysł

Rubbish... Other companies/brands outcompete Apple so Apple never needs to cannibalize itself. That is why their products only end up having 10% global market share. Eg. Mac or iOS.

Good!! CANON is KING!! 💪

@@lbcitylacounty4982 CANON is FINISHED if they keep doing this shit

The FBI needs to depose Canon executives. They have committed fraud under United States Federal law.

Just take a look at EOSHD and you will see that the R5 does not overheat AT ALL. Thats the thing.. even 1h 8k and the temps don't go over 60ºC. Its really just a timer and there is no problem with internal heat.

Not sure that's a real problem for Canon. The MC-11 adapter works, but it's wonky and doesn't really give anywhere close to native performance. Most Canon users will migrate to the RF mount for that reason. I personally considered moving to Sony but found that it would simply be too expensive to change out my glass. If the MC-11 really worked well, I would be shooting with an A9 II and A7R4 before anyone even heard of the R5. That being said, as a stills shooter I'm very excited for the R5 and have ordered 2... Now, if I could only get one in my hands!

The 6D II was legal. The R5 is criminal fraud. Big difference between the two. Canon went too far this time.

In this case it is criminal fraud in the United States under Federal and most state laws.

So? I am really not sure why you tell us that. I mean if you really do only that, why would you watch this video?

Lofote If you want to shoot video, why would you even buy a stills camera? Using the correct tool for the job usually eliminates most frustrations involved in using improper gear for the task at hand.........

@@ryanwilson5936 Your answer makes absolutely no sense in this context. We are in 2020 and the manufacturers themselves sell that feature. And it was Canon, who made a big deal of the R5s revolutionary video features (and no still camera features) for 6 months in advance. So your question should be redirected to Canon, ... if at all. But really, this is 2020, and people just expect video features. You don't brag about "why do cell phones need internet functionality, they were originally made to call people" do you?

Lofote Then why are dedicated video cameras still a very relevant thing at all?

@@ryanwilson5936 Was I not very clear now? Why do you ask that me again instead of Canon who promoted the camera as a primary video camera!? (but if you really want an answer... hey, why are motorcycles still a valid thing if there are cars to drive? why are there still PCs for the internet when you can use your cell phone? ... people WANTED the option and they GOT it - and just look at the prices of a dedicated large-sensor video camera, maybe that'll help you figure it out)

who is Rossmann?

@@maxfactor4209 Basically the most famous Apple repair guy in the world.

@@maxfactor4209 guy in NYC whose business is fixing Macbooks. Check the Louis Rossmann You Tube channel for more.