Who counted how many time a lens was bumped transitioning out the trunk

Dear Chelsea every time you hit those awesome Lenses to the top of your trunk my heart broke a little. 😅

A7R4 is a great camera! Resolution-galore and cropping mode. It’s not even close to an A9 or A9II for sports and wildlife. 20FPS w/ no blackouts! C’mon now! 😛😛😛

Really thought Chelsea might also bonk a lens into a tree at one point 😆

Chelsea keeps hitting big expensive lens onto the car!!!

I think the A9 or A9ll is better for wildlife when it comes to Sony.

I cant believe how you just drove around with $60k worth of equipment in your trunk that wasnt even stored properly 😂😂😂

“Let’s go grab that Canon R5” *smacks the shit out of it

When shooting wildlife with the A7R4 you really want to enable compressed RAWs. Yes that is lossy, but no, it doesn't matter for daytime action. That way you get double the buffer, way faster buffer clearing and, most importantly, the full advertised speed (Hi = 8fps with or Hi+ = 10fps without life view update). I use Hi+ in short bursts and rarely run into buffer issues.

My favorite trick for my R5/R6 is setting my control ring to focus point. I go from wide to zone to single point in a twist and with my other hand 🙌

These claims about switching system are just ridiculous. We all know that they are going to switch back and forth for each new camera model. They will of course keep the best lenses and cameras of both systems.

You left us hanging. My understanding is that the D850/600 is still your weapon of choice for wildlife. Your ability to include the overall feel of the experience with the camera is important and many reviewers just look at the specs. Bottom line, which setup do you enjoy using more and which setup gives you the best photos?

Good video but where can I sell my used gear? Would be awesome if you could suggest a place

Um, I think one mention of KEH is enough. But maybe that's just me.

The blackout issue is a bummer...its why I shoot he the a9II for my wildlife and action ...of corse you do loose the megapixels but thats not much of an issue for me...thanks for the vid!

Where’s the mighty A9II?

Should have compared it with the A9 or the A9Ii and you wouldn’t have missed your shots, had the buffer problem or had any blackout. You seem to be comparing things to get the answers that you want - perhaps to support your future move to Canon?

Please test the 800mm vs 200-600mm with some beginner and check how easy it is for them to find flying bird with that fixed 800mm. Good luck.

Why don’t you use a9ii for blackout free and high frame rate?

Great review. Nice to see that the d850 holds up so well. The 800mm with r5 is a nice option for good light. Lots of new stuff coming out in 2021 so mirrorless is definitely the way to go when the battery life and Dr improvements come. The glass is really what's critical as it's so expensive.

Why use the A7R4 when the A9 is the camera meant for this and that won’t be laggy at all.

After watching so many reviews and videos finally I Got Fujifilm xt3😂😂😂

I just want to say THANK YOU! for taking the time to do these types of videos. Does all the info from the R5 apply to the R6 (other than dynamic range and megapixels)?

Just watch Mark Smith and his A7RIV for bird photography. All you need to know.

1 shot of vodka every time Chelsea bumps a lens.

Why use landscape and portrait cameras for wildlife? A92 vs 1dx3 vs d6

I use for wildlife the Sony A7 III & 200-600mm and mine, this combination is nearly perfect. Very good autofocus speed (also with 1,4 TC), image quality... I love it.

Amazing video, well-done !

Hits the lens on the way out the trunk lol

What about testing the R5 against the Sony A9ii on speed and blackout which would be the correct camera to test against.

Looking forward to see what the A9 III brings That will be my deciding factor between the CanonR5 & A9III Hopefully A9III with more MP & fast clearing buffer without disabling camera's functions.. It will also be interesting to see what a Pro R brings to the table in the future.

Hi Tony and Chelsea Great Video i use a A7r3 at the moment and i use this for all kinds of photography. Last 6 months i have started with Birds in Flight photograph. I have a question I am looking to buy a second camera since i want to have 2 bodies allowing me to put on different lens on the different bodies to be able to gather more images and not miss any situation. ALSO the aim is to increase focus speed for my Bird photography. I am confused on whether to get the A7r4 or A9 as my second camera. I use a 100-400mm lens since i am more comfortable with its weight rather than a 200-600 So if i want to do BIF photography should i get a a7r4 or a9 A9 is known to be a fast focus camera with more images per second - but A7r4 also has a high speed focus compared to a7r3 i was tilting to a7r4 since i can do a lot of cropping without without losing image quality ( i am into print photography) - considering the shorter focal length lens (100-400) What are your thoughts ? and for what reason ? I will appreciate your guidance Have a great day

You have luxury to choose but for us our t3i is everything sports,wildlife,landscape,portrait camera.

Whenever I saw she bumped the big lens, my heart sunk.

One other thing here I didn't mention was the fact that I also bought the A9 to use with my 200-600 and the A9 is fantastic no blackouts there. It's fast and quiet I actually turned the shuttle sound back on because it's crazy fast and if you can't here it and the fact that you don't run out of ammunition you will have to many shots delete if you forget to get off the trigger. When I was the Navy as a photographer it would of been fantastic to be able to shoot like we do now. I was on the USS TICONDEROGA CVS14 for the recovery of Apollo 16 and 17 the last two manned Moon Missions. We got great photos but we were obviously limited to how much film and other factors that digital has virtually eliminated.

Chelsea, wonderful video. I would enjoy seeing more HOW TO WILDLIFE videos in the future. Again wonderful video.

Great video, thanks! I'm going to keep riding the 90D and the 100-400 II till the R7 comes out and re-evaluate then. The R is like the Sony. View lag. Not great for moving subjects.

I'm curious what type of cards were giving such a poor burst performance on the A7r IV. Did you try the Sony Tough cards?

Thanks for the review Chelsea. On the a7riv with the 600mm GM, did you try IBIS off for the in-flight creatures? That would make a huge difference. If you set ss at 1/2000 an IBIS off, you should do much better.

Excellent job!

my heart beats out of sync everytime chelsea knocks the lens! lol!

First you need to know how to use the lens and camera properly if tour investing over 10k worth of gear. Watch a real pro Sony shooter on both A7IV and A9 - Mark Smith he will show you how to set up the cameras settings properly. Not cowboy style who bashes lens and can't even transport this gear properly. Check Mark Smith on youtube he's a guru of wildlife photography also his story telling is on point 👌🏿📸

Hi Chelsea! How’s the sharpness on the Sony 200-600 mm lens without the tele converter? I was actually considering buying one but I don’t see the point if the sharpness is as bad as shown in your video even without the tele convertor

Was you using back button focus on the sony camera while tracking the birds in flight?Iam interested in the 600mm 5.6-6.3 lens.

I had the money to spend this year, and thought long and hard between the A7rIV and the R5. I waited until I could try the R5 out at a store demo, and I rented the A7rIV the same week. I went with the R5, and couldn't be happier. Yes, the dynamic range is better with the Sony, but it's good with the Canon, and they fixed the issue with banding in low light. The camera is just so much more usable, and seconds can matter when you're in a live situation. The 20 fps and excellent EVF really make a difference, and it's almost impossible to fill the buffer. I set one of my back buttons to toggle between the different focus modes without taking my eye from the viewfinder. I also eliminated a few of the focus options since there were actually too many. I watched every Tony and Chelsea video on the subject at the time of purchase, and they were all a huge help in my decision. This video cements my belief that i made the right choice. I'm currently using a Sigma150-600mm for wildlife, but I plan on getting the 800mm Canon too. Thanks again.

11:06 I swear my heart dropped for a solid second.

Curious as to why you didn't use an a9 instead? I don't think too many people use the rIV for wildlife or action primarily for the reasons that you mentioned.

Any thoughts on whether the Sony could get better with software updates, or are the tracking issues really just limited by the hardware?

The-Digital-Picture says that the Sony 200-600mm (even with a 1.4TC on a A7RIII) ist way sharper than the Canon 800 f11 on a R5.

The 200-600 is on sale and with a student discount it's only 1600 from BH. Also just purchased an a7riv with the same discount for $2,475. Throw in the BH credit card and you don't even pay taxes :)

👍🏾👏🏾👋🏾😀Thanks to you guys for the helpful video and a special shoutout for rocking that BMW 840! Man that car is sick. Phelix

The biggest issue with this review is that Chelsea does not know how to set up a Sony camera for wildlife. In fairness this is just as much a result of Sony’s quirkiness as much as Chelsea’s lack of knowledge about those quirks. 1) set the AF-C to HI, not HI+ to prevent blackout. 2) make sure the EVF quality is set to Standard and refresh rate is set to high to get the best wildlife viewing experience on this camera, 3) For high speed action, don’t shoot in silent mode. You will get image tearing due to Sony’s slow scan-out. 4) if you are shooting still subjects like the squirrel, use expand flexible spot tracking unless the squirrel is the closest thing in the center of the viewport. there is no squirrel Eye AF on Sony. 5) I consistently get 8fps using Uncompressed RAW with my A7RIV, but there are a number of settings that will reduce frame rate on Sony. 6) no question the R5 has faster scan-out and better subject acquisition and tracking than the Sony A7RIV. Most Sony users had hoped they would update the A7RIV firmware to include Bird Eye AF. There was a perfect opportunity to do that with the A7RIVA launch, but it does not look like that will happen.

I have the 200-600 Sony. In my experience if you have the wrong stabilization mode active it can actually introduce blur in your images. If you’re shooting fast enough, you’re better off turning it off completely. Also, the A7RIV really isn’t the best option for long bursts. I personally would have liked to see the A9 in this comparison instead.

Budget: Sony RX10 IV No Budget: Nikon D850 + AF-S NIKKOR 180-400mm f/4E TC1.4 FL ED

Very glamorous! I often do the budget version of this and remove my Nikon V1 with 30-110mm from the trunk/boot of my car.

No offense, but I have a Sony A9 with a 200-600 Lens sitting on a gimbal for BIF pictures. I have an A7R3 for higher resolution image. There are people who don't like handholding large lens while taking fast action wildlife images. Some very top wildlife photographers even use gimbals and tripods to get these kind of shots. Some of Chelsea's critiques on these lens is questionable as it is her way of doing photography.

Man, you bump those lenses constantly, and that nice BMW! 😁 Isn't there a batt grip for that R5?? Use that!

When you can afford expensive equipment but can’t take good pictures 😂😂😂 :Perfect Example:

Thanks for this video, seeing all these issues, i'm sticking to my dslr and look forward to the new K-3 III

Some tough comments here. Here's a positive one. Nice tip on reprogramming the AE Lock button on the Canon to single point vs. tracking on the AF-On button. I had similar issue to what you described but hadn't thought about reprogramming the AE Lock. Thanks C.!

With those lenses people would think your trying to get photos of alien life

Can you please re-do this test with an A9 or A9II? I’m curious what your reaction will be when using the proper tool. 😛😝😜

With the A7Riv I also experienced a reduced frame rate at 5 fps BUT I found a parameter that has a great inflence : That is Tab1 5/15 Priority Set in AF-C You have 3 choices : AF , Release, Balanced Emphasis In you switch to Release or Balanced Emphasis you get your 11 frames/sec I use Balanced Emphasis to have good enough focus.

I really love that 840i Gran Coupe ❤

Nice video! I'd suggest Mark smith's channel who uses the same combo Sony a7RIV + 600mm f4 and he nails shots like crazy :) He's got his hands on the Canon R5 now.

“i don’t really like mirrorless for wildlife” *5 minutes later* “one of the reasons why i love shooting mirrorless for wildlife is...”

I just wanted to say that I'm glad you mentioned the 150-600mm lenses in your comparison. Nobody else mentions them in reviews and they're the elephant in the room with their low price. I'd really love to see a more head to head comparison with the f/11s and ~$3k zooms like the 100-500 and 200-600.

Loved the sunburst in the KEH promo bit!

Every single time that Chelsea picked a lens, it hit the trunk! Wrong lenses, or wrong car for you?!

Who came straight to comments as soon as she bumped the 600 to the trunk !!

Woow great stuff !!

So, do the Sony A7's EVF have blackout problems? My cheap used A6000 hardly blacks out while shooting action and tracking objects is easy...

"Got the last one....", as she bangs it against the trunk body. OUCH!

Every Time You Bumped the lens had me like 😮😅

Thanks for the video. I have the R5 with the 100-500 fantastic. the video is great to see the comparissons.

which lens is good for soccer games MLS at a stadium? I might get a press pass and get close to the field

"Well they're still in there, so that's a good thing" - that's exactly what I think whenever coming back to my car having left equipment inside 🤣

Sony a6600 with the 70-350mm G, seems like an actual contender here.

hiya chelsea great video as always and hope u have came to a decision yet im not a pro but a very passionate severely sight impaired/blind photographer from uk i currently have a nikon z7 with ftz adapter but alsso the 24-200 but currentky looking for a wildlife lens either deciding to wait but at moment not many lenses for wildlife and nikon mirrorless so thinking of maybe swapping to what not sure was considering the sony range with the monster 200-600 but then also looking at either the lumix g9 with 100-400 fuji x-s10 with 0-300 and 2x converter equivalent is 920mm or go for canon but which one not sure have tried rp before but bit low budget may look at r6 can u helps thanks

Just picked up an A7R3. Happily 3 years behind!

D500 with a 500pf ✅

2 weeks from now: I am selling my Sony 10 weeks from now: Sony just released the rumored A9R/ IIII, I am selling my Canon and switching to Sony again

Great work

Can you please test the EOS R6 with the Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary lens with the Adaptor. I want to know how well it performs so that I can decide on whether I should get that camera and lens or not...

Mmmm after bumping those lenses she's not holding mine, but mine is a lot shorter 🤣🤣🤣😄🤠🇦🇺

Uh - #7:57 you're getting 4 to 5 frames per second? I don't know what you're doing but... *You're Doing It Wrong* Edit: Ah - at 8:50 we discover what you're doing wrong :p You're shooting uncompressed raw. Turn on compression. There is no hit to quality and you'll immediately see the full ~10fps and increase your buffer depth by about half again (~60 shots)

That was a fun one to watch. I do all my shooting on an R5 now with an RF 100-500 (sometimes with a 1.4x extender). One of these days I’ll have to try out the 800 f/11. The 600 .. some day.

Thank you so much. I love my Canon 77D. But have the weighty Pentax K1 for Astro. Looking forward to trying the Canon 600. Thanks you guys, Happy Thanksgiving! Lisa

Food for thought. She said the Sony has an effective frame rate of 5 fps, but longer battery life than the Canon. Then, she said that the Canon gets 20 fps, but has a shorter battery life. She also said that Canon frame rate drops at around 50-60% battery life. All Canon cameras do this, both DSLR and mirrorless, because it preserves battery life. I wonder how long the Sony battery would last if it could keep up at 20 fps.

Your seamless transitions to KEH commercials reminded of Gracie Allen's seamless transitions to Carnation Evaporated Milk commercials.

Nice review... Among these cameras even if I were to choose one camera... I would have gone for the R5 as well... Just a question... for wildlife you mentioned the A7R 4 having blackout in the viewfinder... Wasn’t the A92 a better choice for this comparison... I agree this was a high MP shootout... but still, the A92 has blackout free shooting...

Excellent comparison..

17:50 $40 000 worth of lenses and not even a cap on the bajonett...

My R5's no-blackout thing is great, as is animal-eye AF. I'm very happy with the camera overall. Probably a lot happier than the folks at the place that loaned you those lenses are about you slamming them into your trunk...😳

I agree with Chelsea. Although mirrorless cameras are already so fast in terms of autofocus, when shooting wildlife, it still lacks and not as quick when you try to shoot something suddenly appears, the dslr still grabs shots faster. That’s why although I have a R5 too, I still keep my D500

hows the canon 100-500mm compare? is there enough res in the a9ii to use that instead of the a7r4, no blackout and 20fps

I know you didn't but I just wanna imagine you guys drove around with $60k worth of lens - unpadded - in your trunk over rough roads lol

YIKES! I jumped every time you bumped the lenses on the car.

Bello el video. Gracias por tanta dedicación

But what about the new r5/r6 firmware concerning/producing the black frames between the shots ?