The police should be setting up similar stings to catch dishonest mechanics and put them in jail. Then honest mechanics like you would be able to pick up all the extra business.

I appreciate honest mechanic. They have alot of potential to make alot of money, so there's no need to lie.

You know who hates dishonest mechanics/shops more than consumers? Honest technicians/shops.

What's your overhead? How much are you paying your tech, insurance, utilities? Oh yeah, and pay the tech to redo the job if there's a warranty concern (most part warranty's pay for parts, not labor...so the shop HAS to build in a profit for warranty). Open your own shop, then complain about $180 for brake pads. Somehow, I bet your opinion changes DRASTICALLY.

@@mattfanslow Have you ever worked on brakes? You don't need a garage insurance and 'tech'... You need a wrench and to not be an idiot.

@@tesseract2365 by virtue of your own comment, you have assured everyone reading this that you will not be servicing brakes anytime soon.

"Tech" is short for "technician". And, really, depending on the vehicle, you NEED technology in the form of a scan tool or dedicated tool to put the system into service mode. Yep, that's a real thing. Ford, BMW, Volvo, etc, etc. Only going to become more common. Plus, really...like...WTF...there is a HUGE difference between back-yarding a repair for your own vehicle versus doing it professionally. We have to stand by our work. It's like saying you don't need insurance to cook burgers on your grill, but how many restaurants don't have insurance.

@@mattfanslow hahaha If mechanics had any character and morals and a backbone they'd make parts companys pay the labor....the customer didnt sell you a bad part!!!!

LOL...all the mechanics in my small town rip ppl off. People just started fixing their own cars 😁👍

lol

How are things going now 7 years later? Is he still in business?

@@japantarzan3551 nope lol 3 years ago he cleared shop

@@Germ1993 left the Town?

MrNotorius5500 but you gotta have the will and common sense. For me it's unbelievable, but I know few guys, who can't even change a tire.

I've taken whole engines apart and put them back together without even worrying about the time. I have more equipment than just a basic set of sockets and wrenches you know.

+MrNotorius5500 Same here. I used to take my truck to the local dealership to get oil changes. I got sick and tired of waiting over an hour for them to change the oil, so I learned how to do it myself, then realized they ripped me off a half quart each visit. My truck takes 4.5 quarts, but they were charging me for 5. 4.5 is the max it needs, so I was ripped off each time I went there.

+Athrough Z The reason you were probably ripped off is because the system that some dealerships use for pricing is linked to their inventory system, making it impossible to charge for .5 of a unit.

Me too I just bought a car repair manual and learn how to get things fix on my car.

As bad a rap as my job gets as a mechanic, if I was being threatened with jail for having a semi-bad day and telling ppl they need wiper blades when they could've gone another 3000 miles on their old, junky, $14 set, then I wouldn't want to be in the business. I love fixing cars, I love turning a piece of shit banger into an awesome, sweet ride. I'd do it even if ppl didn't pay me. The police have enough power as it is. Leave it be. If you stop coming to a shop you find fault with, you hurt them infinitely more than if you jailed them.

Sorry. Theft is a crime. Dishonest mechanics who rip people off belong in jail. It sends a message. And then honest mechanics end up with more business.

Joe Vignolo​ I'm not saying "Don't report a crime", I'm saying be sure your money was stolen in the service area and you didn't just forget where you left it.

@@vanamburgben well they would had nothing to hide. if they did their job and fix cars.

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+rushanz n Not every one has the time to learn about cars or have the interest. Most of these shops Target women because ( Not to be sexist) most women don't know much about cars.

+MetalHeart8787 ok

+MetalHeart8787 lol literally all you have to do Is read the manual for your car. its that easy as long as you know about your car your good no need to learn every small detail a bout cars just the simple ones.

+Chandler Stark lol your mom's out of control

MetalHeart8787 so you'd spend 20,000 dollars on a car and choose to not learn about it? If you went to college you spent more than that to learn. Read the manual. Use google. Not too hard. Same for houses. How can you spend 100+ thousand dollars on something and not know anything about it. Just seems foolish. Buy some tools and roll your sleeves up. Everyone's excuse is they don't have time.

Yea, Auto MD is like Web MD (it's cancer..always gonna be cancer, so save yourself the trip). It gripes me to no end how over simplified some of these videos are. It gripes me even more to see ignorance being spread like a disease by the people who make them. People want a good mechanic but don't want to pay for his years of expierence, his tools, his education. Sure, you can buy a pocket OBDll scanner for $40, but you have nothing else to interperet the information. My scanner cost me around $14k and I get about as close as you can get to dealership level data and control. Most folks act like it's just so easy to fix cars, or that a monkey could do it. Come into my shop with that attitude and I'll tell you straight off to find a monkey to do it, and where the door is.

That is one of my gripes too. Customer wants an alignment because the car "pulls", look it over and the suspension is completely worn out and it has four different tires on it. You do the alignment and it still pulls, now they want you to fix it for free since the alignment didn't help, and now it is making noise over bumps.

This is exactly what I mean and then you try to tell him he needs it fixed and suddenly you are a crook and a thief and robbing people blind and obviously he’s gonna tell everyone.

Yup that of they go down to another shop that will do the alignment solve issue short term and then they will trash your name saying you tried to screw them

Yeah ... But Only SOMETIMES It MIGHT Be Legitimately / Honestly " Needed Repairs " . But MOST Of The Time , ITS ALL VERY UNNECESSARY ADDED REPAIRS . ESPECIALLY FOR FEMALE CUSTOMERS. Car Repair Garage / Shops , ALMOST ALWAYS PURPOSELY AND WILLINGLY TAKE WRONGFUL / ILLEGAL ADVANTAGE OF " Car Uneducated " Women . JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN FOOL THEM AND GET AWAY WITH IT ... !

agreed....That $120 covers the time spent creating the work order, the tech removing the wheels to inspect the brakes so he can get paid....time spent creating the estimate.....the electricity required to run the lights, computers, printers and other equipment....the paper the invoices are printed on, then the tech having to put the wheels back on and take the car back to the front....the payroll for the service manager and adviser.....health insurance for the employees....lease on the building.....i could go on......people just do not know what it costs to run a good repair facility.

Louie. Brake inspection is usually $19.95 though. Stop with your misinformation campaign please.

@@bijnor67it depends what the reporter lady told the shop when she brought the car in. What if she told them that she wanted a complete inspection of the car, codes read, suspension looked at, pressure tests, emission tests.

Joe Vignolo id kill a mechanic if he even tried to replace a spark plug wire on my ls3 swapped silverado 😠 i just hate that i can't do my own state mandated inspections when i drive in they are all excited to take it for a test drive 😑

What about your dad?

Joe Vignolo damn Fucking Right

that's why I do my own work ! if there is something I can't do than I have a good mechanic I go to !

Koalafications4Dayz that sucks Iam from a small town and and we only have two inspections stations, at one they actually take your car for a test drive and at the other station they only drive your vehicle in their parking lot (to test the brakes) so not far at all and you keep an eye on your car.

Ahh ok. So that's why no one allows me to bring in my own parts.

Thank you, this needed to be said.

I have been a mechanic my whole life,not many things need "flushed"...this term was used for radiators a long time ago before people used anti freeze in radiators. And surfaced about 20 yrs or so ago. "Flush master cylinder","Transmission", NOT NEEDED!,Dirty transmission fluid better left ALONE!. Master cylinder is just them stabbing you!, It usually doesn't get done,But believe them your MONEY!.

@@packingten Evidently you don't service BMW or Subaru. Part of their recommended services. Ever test for copper content in brake fluid? See, most fluids come with inhibitor packages. They prevent the fluids from becoming acidic. What's the weakest components in a brake system, well, that's in contact with brake fluid? Yep, copper. Brake fluid flushes are WAY cheaper than calipers, master cylinders, wheel cylinders, etc.

@@mattfanslow Are you a mechanic Matt? Packington has said they've been a mechanic their whole life and you just sound like you own a Subaru and read the owners manual.

@@tesseract2365 Good point, I should start out with listing off credentials instead of just citing truths that are easily found; many, oddly enough, in the vehicle's owner's manual.

The mechanics that didn't partake in scams at the shop would be able to sue for hurting their lively hood.

It's called C.Y.A..........

you owe the honest places free advertising by naming them

+brandon612 Right! Maybe $180 for front pads AND rotors!

+Bryce Lancour autonation charged me 150 for new brake drums

+brandon612 I paid about $40 for new front pads and haven't had a single problem with them. So yes, $180 is WAYYYYYYYYY too much

Depends on the brand luxury will be higher

+brandon612 You have to take into account that most people repairing the brakes will be technicians paid on a flat rate system. For those of you who don't know technicians aren't paid by the hour but by the job's hour rate. So if their flag rate is $8 and the books say changing brakes should take 2 hours, no matter how long it takes in reality, they get paid $16. Now the reason the cost of repairs can't be super cheap is because you're paying for the technicians knowledge, tools and essentially their time. I can see how consumers want to pay less and less but in order to get a good technician, you need to pay a fair rate.

Lots of dealerships scam people into buying into repairs that don't have to be made once the car is in the shop. The service writers get a commission for the extra work they get customers to buy over the recall work. I know because my son worked at a dealership and knew first hand what went on in the service area.

Because sometimes the price is too much for what we get. Why throw away money?

Yes, most of what mechanics do is under appreciated, but come on, do you really think that 78 year old granny or that 19 year old college girl who doesn't know which end of a hammer to use let alone anything about cars, is going to be doing brake jobs and climbing under the car to do oil changes?

I understand that, and if you are not knowledgeable on those then seek a trust worthy mechanic but don't expect to under bid his job either. I have a 19 year old sister n law who happens to be a college student studying to be a teacher, that is a extreme girly girl, and she knows how to change oil and brakes, filters, tires, and light bulbs. So yes, I would expect a young person to know how to properly maintain her vehicle when it's cheaper to do the job herself. That comment you made disables a woman's ability to do that type of work. As for the granny, it would be wise to have a family member to do that for them and if not then expect to pay to get it done right.

Bradley bedwell well said buddy

@@bradleybedwell5186 I'm sure there are some granny's that can change oil, brakes etc. Heck, a third grader could do those things if he or she was shown how or watched a video or read the manual.

tony r sch good luck finding it

It's cheap for pads, most take more than 600 euro here in Germany because the disc "has to be changed also"

That's my 4 good quality brake rotors ...I always do it myself..lol

TESTIFY!!!!!!

“Taking it to uncle bills auto shop downtown you are more likely to get ripped off than in a corporate setting.” The opposite is actually true.

ya

Lol

I love those... "But I change my oil religiously!" Too bad there's more than just oil changes needed to keep a vehicle going.

Perhaps... But there are plenty of undercover reports out there of mechanics up selling preventive maintenance items and NOT even doing the job.

wpcsray true. Most owners won't listen to good advice. They drive till it breaks down.

wpcsray never had a coolant flush....been driving for 40 years....truck I'm driving now is 20 years old

Freedom 1 yea but you probably USE coolant , tons of idiots out there use dirty city water ...

Can they legally keep your vehicle there if the check engine light is on?

hanksranger no but they thought I was stupid.

hanksranger if they want to get shot. BTW the check light can come on simply from the fuel cap not being tight enough on later vehicles or the cap not sealing properly because its time for a new cap. In either case the computer senses a vacuum or pressure leak.

B Ann no i actually had a leak. A hose came undone while i was offroading. Had to go and put new fasteners on every hose. A year later i cracked the filler neck. I ended up chopping the neck and reinforcing it to accept the added abuse of offroad use.

great story bro.

yup, and some brake pads matter. i like using bendix or polsi quiet since they are better quality and never squeak. unlike those cheaper brands.

thank god someone else said this most of these people have no clue what is going on with cars

It takes about five minutes to machine each rotor, which the kid that sweeps the floor can easily be trained to do (the modern drum lathes are automatic and will stop at a pre-set thickness) while the mechanic handles the tear-down and replacement. Sure, brake work is open-ended. Sometimes you legitimately find other issues which it's unwise to neglect. The calipers could be leaking. I never replace rear drum brake shoe w/o doing the wheel cylinders, they're not expensive and brake bleeding is simple. Sometimes if the replacement rotors are cheap enough I just replace them w/o messing around with a trip to the machine shop. Non-Drive wheels (rear drums on FWD cars and front wheels on RWD vehicles) may have bearings which need to be cleaned, inspected, repacked, and NEW grease seals installed. But brake pads are dirt-simple. If the rotor surface isn't scratched, gouged, corroded, and not warped (the brake pedal usually shudders if they are) or worn beyond service limits, I might not even bother to turn them. A professional shop would NEVER skip this step, and some states forbid them to anyway, so it's not a 'scam' if they wont do the work w/o turning them. I had a 1998 Chrysler Town and Country which ate front brake pads like a barfly gobbles free pretzels; my routine with that vehicle was to change the pads once a year, which was usually about 20K miles, and the rotors were still factory fresh when I sold off that mini-van in 2008 with 212K miles on it. BTW, on that same vehicle, which had the 3.8L V6, I was faced after three years with a spark plug change. Realizing that getting to the back three was a nightmare, I did at least get a few quotes, and the best I got was about $500...so I did them myself. Doing the front three took less than ten minutes. The rear three took a whole afternoon, listening to the Giants on the radio find another way to lose. It involved removing the intake plenum and the associated airbox AND part of the front cowling and windshield wipers...so I'd say that the shop would definitely have earned every penny of that $500 if I had them do it! The price you're quoted will often depend on what vehicle you drive, even if it's literally the same parts assembly. Works even for buying parts..I learned this life hack when #2 son got a 1995 Mustang with the 5.0L V8...needed an alternator. He was quoted about $345 from NAPA for the 'Stang...just for grins I called the same store, and inquired for the same alternator...for a '95 Crown Victoria, and was quoted $199. Believe me, if you drive into Midas and need front brakes for your 4 y.o. Chrysler Pacifica with all the "bells and whistles", you'll be quoted a far higher price than if you drive up in a 10 y.o. well-worn Dodge Caravan, though the assembly is exactly the same! Not only will the service writer have a good idea of how much you're willing to cough up and how gullible you are, even the parts suppliers will have price the parts accordingly...which, BTW, are marked up to FULL LIST, more pure profit on top of the shop's labor rate, as they get them wholesale and get rebates for volume business.

Ghost Rodgers etcg is a fool . Granted he has some expertise form having dealership experience and who wouldn't simply from hanging around a dealership shop but other then that imo he's a fool. He couldn't even rebuild his own Honda trans & don't give me the, trans are hard or take special equipment because I did my first trans at 17 with basic tools and I've done quite a few different ones and they all worked properly. BTW if you worked in a shop where women were taken advantage of you should have quit immediately !

B Ann not all trans are the same. I did stay at the job but I didn't rip customers off I stayed there for a year giving HUGE discounts because how my boss operated, his shop has now since been closed because he was evading tax and owed many places money.. so he got it handed to him in the end :)

B Ann I rebuilt several engines including two inline fours in less the a week and I am only 16 plus an old chevy four speed trans in my auto shop class.

peter lally Several is at least 3 engines and a trans making 4 items in one week. It doesn't matter who you are it takes a certain amount of time to do a certain process to anything properly. Although very rarely you run into someone who can do things faster and properly. Very rarely ! Proper disassembly takes time. Proper cleaning can take hours upon hours. Proper reassembly can take many many hours and then you always need to check the machine shops work to be positive that they did their job correctly.

+Ghost Rodgers My biggest pet peeve is the inspection law where shops use that as a springboard to require repair work which is questionable. Its like the shop is using a valid sticker as leverage to sell work for profit.

eric sucks ass , scotty kilmer is yr guy

If you want step by step instructions watch ETCG, if you want general instructions or have ADD watch Scotty Kilmer.

MtnDewAddict there's a new one, South main Auto and he gives deatailed vyd 10-45 mins🙄

Agreed, South Main Auto is the best! Used to watch EricTheCarGuy, not anymore. South Main Auto is thorough and does better work than the "other" guy.

MTTech yeah ericthecarguy got boring with his Fairmont vids, southmainauto always has different vehicles in

It’s the price for the part itself really

I know of NO late model vehicle where the owner's manual makes that recommendation, Ashanur. Most vehicles will go 50K miles or so before the brakes need any work, though an inspection should be done once a year or no more than 20K miles, as driving conditions and habits are probably the biggest factor in brake life. There's no reason to flush out a car's brakes if they don't need to be opened (change a brake line, or caliper, or wheel cylinders), but if those components are touched then , as the system has to be bled anyway, a thorough flushing, which can be done usually with half a quart of fresh fluid, shouldn't be skipped. I've put 75K miles on my 2014 Ford Focus and the brakes are STILL serviceable. I will be changing the front pads and rotors (Bendix parts from Rock Auto are cheap enough, why bother turning the old ones?), but unless I discover any issues, that's it. Why mess with the hydraulic system if there's no problems?

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rotcataergeht The funny thing is they will not ripoff a rich guy hoping that he will return.

+rotcataergeht Most mechanics are not ripoffs. Yea do what you can by yourself, except when you really are up shit creek and need a timing belt, you leave it to professionals. That's when were worth something right? are you going to chase a electrical fault and test modules on your car and diagnose problems properly? Can you read a wiring diagram, or use a multimeter? Can you time an engine? Automotive is more than brakes and tires.

Illadelphh Many stupid mechanics out there. You ought to blame them for the distrust people have on mechanics.

What if I don't have the skills or the tools to do it myself? Tire mounting machines are expensive and it's not something I want to keep.

Depends on the vehicle. Heard they're a pain in the GMC Canyon and in the 4.0 Explorer.

are you high???? The front BRAKES (not "breaks") do about 80 percent of the braking and the rear about 20 percent.....and on MOST vehicles the REAR is the parking brake.....SMH.....maybe you should do a little more research on BRAKES (not "breaks") before making a statement like this one.

“Front breaks on most vehicles are used for the emergency break only. The Back breaks on most vehicles is only one you use to stop the entire vehicle.” You need to take an automotive course really bad. And don’t forget to take English classes as well.

MOST shops will not install customer supplied parts.....In order to run a shop successfully and maybe take home a few bucks at the end of the day so they can eat, a shop NEEDS to make a profit on selling parts along with labor....They can not cover all the over head on labor alone.....Otherwise they would have to charge like $400 an hour.

@Louie smith. Not true.

@@bijnor67 hard to believe I left that comment 9 years ago. 9-4-22