Card We Hate But Still Play | Commander Clash Podcast 138

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We hate these cards, but still play them?! The answer seems simple...
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0:00 intro and sponsors
2:46 Farewell
10:37 Tutors
15:51 land ramp
19:04 The One Ring
24:39 Feed the Swarm
28:45 DFCs
32:54 Sol Ring
38:45 Teferi’s Protection
42:46 The Celestus (Day / Night)
47:45 Esper Sentinel
52:49 avoid for Clash’s sake
55:33 Infect cards
1:00:15 Cathar’s Crusade
1:05:38 outro

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@jamesvacca8835 4 ай бұрын

Seth is Safron Olive, Crim is the Asian Avenger, Richard is the Codfather, and Tomer is Baby Hands.

@darthsnarf 4 ай бұрын

budget commander who? he has a new Tag Line now

@canamrock 4 ай бұрын

@@darthsnarfHe's suffering from saving money on smaller hands. Gotta go with the value pack family-sized hands.

@joshuadempsey5281 4 ай бұрын

I really want this to become the top comment lol

@ethanhughes3515 4 ай бұрын

The best MTG Mafia

@robgmb6311 4 ай бұрын

Never forget Tomer's Onlywrists account

@AndrewRingle 4 ай бұрын

"Casual commander is about cultivating an enjoyable experience." *- Proceeds to insert 12 boardwipes into a deck -*

@jamespowelljr4636 4 ай бұрын

Bruh 😂 facts.

@BobardeZanzibar 4 ай бұрын

Is mono-red a fun experience? No boardwipes makes every game exactly like that. See Phil.

@itsazombiethingsgaming1107 4 ай бұрын

I'd rather see people add 10 board wipes in there decks unlike one group I play with how many infinite combos can I add in

@seanedgar164 4 ай бұрын

Honestly, their pod will wrath 4 power because "they're gonna win the game!"

@marimi46 4 ай бұрын

You don't need more wraths lmao. Just run more 3 for 1 or 2 for 1 targeted removal

@BrewersKitchen 4 ай бұрын

Just fyi I usually run 2-3 Wraths, 1-2 Counters and 1-2 Spot removal spells per deck. I just rarely cast wraths on calsh because I'm usually the one who gets dunked on by a board wipe 😅

@Lucarioguild7 4 ай бұрын

Don't listen to him Phil you're playing the right way, you never have to answer problems if you are the problem

@TMidander 4 ай бұрын

exactly THIS IS PHIL SLANDER :D

@nosyamthegreat8768 3 ай бұрын

SAMMEE. MAN OF THE PEAPLE🤣

@grantpolley 2 ай бұрын

Bro WHAT

@vinnythewebsurfer 4 ай бұрын

Alternate title to this video would be “this card is a problem and I’m part of the problem”

@mattfrisone3961 4 ай бұрын

HA! Right? I'm watching these slides - "Oh, but I love tutors!" "How can you hate ramp? I love green!" "Yeah, I have 12 Sol Rings in 13 decks..."

@justin2039 4 ай бұрын

This card is a problem and in every precon.

@-8h- 4 ай бұрын

@mattfrisone3961 yet aside from crim, they all whine about sol ring and cry for its death like it slept with their partner.

@williambowen8054 4 ай бұрын

You know what isn't a problem? Ensuring my cards are safe and secure with sleek UltraGuard sleeves and stylish deck boxes.

@oliverherman2447 4 ай бұрын

I love this discussion Everyone: “these are mechanics that are unhealthy for magic as a whole” Tomer: “these cards hurt my baby hands”

@andrueurbane7361 4 ай бұрын

Crim not only hates ramping, he hates making land drops as well.

@taylorarnold880 4 ай бұрын

He hates ramping so much, he cuts lands for wraths

@cre8rzaw 4 ай бұрын

I think for day-night cards, the mechanic should have been that if there are no day-night permanents on the battlefield, the cycle reverts to day. This way it's always on day by default.

@SaltyProductionsHD 4 ай бұрын

Yes, it needs like an ETB effect that sets it to day or something like that

@captainstrangiato961 4 ай бұрын

Tomer yelling “MY BABY HANDS, MY BABY HAAAANDS” is really what I needed this morning.

@taylorgamble1965 4 ай бұрын

Seth, you can cut Sol Ring from your decks. I did it over a year ago (outside of my Obosh companion deck) and have been super happy about it. I highly recommend it.

@skylerskinner2477 4 ай бұрын

I usually never put more than 4 wrath’s. I honestly would rather the game end and someone else win than having a drawn out game with continuous wrath’s. 6-12 wrath’s sounds miserable haha

@BrootalMetalBanjo 4 ай бұрын

I put in tire board protection spells in place of board wipes. Now when your wrath-happy pod attempts to wipe, your field is intact and you can win.

@BlitzKreigur 4 ай бұрын

Hard agree. I'll slot in more spot removal, play more politics or take my beats. The wrath-reset cycle can turn any game into a chore, which for me, hurts the enjoyment more than having too many threats.

@EmbeJuicemazzopazzo 4 ай бұрын

four/five is more than enough, I have around 2-3 on most of my decks, while I have 4 in my boros deck, the one I have the most

@Kestral287 4 ай бұрын

Honestly if you're playing a deck where the board matters the solution is to just play asymmetrical wraths and just win the game after you blow up the board.

@patriciaboggs8882 4 ай бұрын

Miserable? Ha! Have you tried playing around 60? So much fun! Some of my favorite games. 3+ hours of brutal destruction of everything where everyone is still above 30 life and has 0 permanents in play.

@covertgoblue 4 ай бұрын

best rule for day/night - when it matters, flip a coin

@techpriest8965 4 ай бұрын

My group forgot that we had monarch in play (we said we will remember it so no token was being passed around) and rolled dice later to decide....

@trixterDevil 4 ай бұрын

For day/night, just house rule it to reset back to normal whenever the one card gets removed.

@pascalsimioli6777 4 ай бұрын

You peasant, we have an actual crown to keep track of the monarch lmao

@doctorrobz 4 ай бұрын

Richard: you can just play one to two counterspell in a deck Crim: 😐

@seanfallon2271 4 ай бұрын

Richard: Precons have like no interaction, maybe 1 board wipe, maybe 1 targeted removal Command Zone reviewing nearly every precon of the last 3 years: WOTC is getting really good at including about 10-12 targeted removal and 2-3 board wipes in every deck!

@Jlizard27 4 ай бұрын

I would say in general that precons are still very light on interaction. Maybe it’s dependent on how much someone is comparing new vs old precons as opposed to precons vs brewed decks. I would say 10-12 is more targeted removal than any of the precons I’ve gotten in the last year have had, unless it’s counting *really* specific and niche options.

@bartoffer 4 ай бұрын

The fix to double-sided cards is easy: you put them in a clear sleeve, take draft chaff, and use the sharpie to turn the chaff into a proxy. When you have the double-faced card anywhere the information is public, just set the proxy-card off to the side.

@user-nd1ef8xj6d 4 ай бұрын

I hate them for the reason, that I never remember the back-side since I don't play often. And then I'm like trying to pull them out and read them without anyone noticing

@HJOTech 4 ай бұрын

Just use the million blank art cards you get in packs

@Gyarodos 4 ай бұрын

Cleanest solution: 1. print a proxy of the backside. 2. Put it to your tokens. 3. When you flip/use the backside, then you exchange proxy back vs real front side.

@bartoffer 4 ай бұрын

Art cards and the MDFCs themselves can bleed through certain sleeves and be visible, since art cards have the blank backs. Just take a sharpie to a Disenchant.

@drluigee21 4 ай бұрын

100% agree with Tomer on One Ring, immediately thought of the exact same mana crypt comparison

@drluigee21 4 ай бұрын

And then a minute later also 100% agree on dfc. I like so many design-wise, but super obnoxious to have to unsleeve cards, and can't stand looking at ugly checklist cards in hand

@late_gaming 4 ай бұрын

If you raise poison counters to 20... no infect deck would ever win a pod. 1v1, sure... but a 4 man pod? nah dude. My infect deck is about as good as it can get, and it's still a struggle to win a pod. Infect is only good if you get super big combos, plus the stigma on infect already makes you target #1 even if the opponents don't have counters. My big combos to take a single person out in one turn will usually cost me 10 plus mana... then I'm outta gas. I see people go infinite for less much more regularly. Maybe that's just my experience... but raising the counters would be the death of infect. Anyways... love the content!

@-8h- 4 ай бұрын

Yeaaah. I feel like 10 is too few, but 20 is too much. It's a strange situation

@MrJahoodie 4 ай бұрын

@@-8h- Two headed giant is 15 counters, why not commander?

@donb7519 4 ай бұрын

@@MrJahoodiein 2hg if you get to that 15 you win in commander getting one person to 10 just means you eliminated one opponent its not really the same

@WiLDRAGE777 4 ай бұрын

The only card I hate that I play is Farewell in my Superfriends deck because it makes sense to play it there. Day/Night cards I absolutely refuse to play under any circumstance. For Seth, play the Sonic Screwdriver from Doctor Who instead of Celestus; it has much better utility.

@aydjent 4 ай бұрын

I don't care how "technically correct" 12 board wipes might be, that would make for such boring games to both play and watch

@michaelcollins4534 4 ай бұрын

And then they always complained about their three hour Modo games lol. I wonder why they got like that

@nosyamthegreat8768 3 ай бұрын

Yea i run 2 AT MOST 12 is ridiculious

@liamlindsay6082 4 ай бұрын

52:52 Absolutely. Celestial Ancient is a great card in enchantress decks. Each enchantment cast, put a +1/+1 counter on your creatures. It is so annoying to track, I immediately took it out after goldfishing a sythis deck. Tracking how many tokens I had was enough. Boon of the spirit realm is just an improved version playability wise

@MakeVarahHappen 4 ай бұрын

Yeah man, don't play that two mana removal spell. Instead you can tutor up a seven mana boardwipe that also destroys your board! These do not play the same role.

@Dynme 4 ай бұрын

1:01:00 CC is a build around. Pick cards that have chunks of creatures enter at once. Skip your Mardu Ascendency and go with Rabble Rousing. Is Mardu usually better? Sure. Is RR better for keeping your sanity? Yes.

@paulhedges4625 4 ай бұрын

The One Ring definitely feels like a S+ staple next to sol ring, arcane signet. But I don't see it when I'm in those lower power pods, because it's sort of just understood that it's ridiculously powerful. I've intentionally chosen to not include it for those power reasons

@michaelburt9888 4 ай бұрын

The One Ring alone has caused me to increase the number of exile and/or theft-based removal pieces that I run.

@Oddler 4 ай бұрын

I agree with that take. I just don't play cards I hate and number one on that list is rhystic study.

@delailama736 4 ай бұрын

And Smothering Tithe. I don't even think I hate the cards, I just hate hearing someone saying "are you going to pay..." every single time someone plays the game.

@jamespowelljr4636 4 ай бұрын

@delailama736 I definitely agree lol

@khub5660 4 ай бұрын

@delailama736 then tell them you aren't going to pay for it when they play it. Think about that?

@goy1849 4 ай бұрын

I like playing rhystic then cloning it :D

@Kestral287 4 ай бұрын

@@khub5660 Especially with Rhystic that just means you're conceding with extra steps. That's not a good thing.

@edhdeckbuilding 4 ай бұрын

a whole bunch of issues would be solved in commander if everyone stopped playing cards that they hate playing against. i might stop playing farewell for this reason.

@pascalsimioli6777 4 ай бұрын

That's like saying "we would solve all of our issues if we could teach humans what basic empathy is" I agree with you, but humans are pretty stupid animals.

@J-Sade 4 ай бұрын

How do they play with so many wraths 😂 it sounds like a terrible time

@avall0nNn1992 4 ай бұрын

Works with their meta and microcosmos because they don't really play a lot of infinites. Wraths are weak If combo is a viable strategy.

@xdavid00 4 ай бұрын

I've been preparing for the Farewell-pocalypse for over a year now. Most of my decks are pretty resistant. Use slow-flicker/phasing for defense, have more card draw, have more effects from lands and planeswalkers, or just hold counterspells for only Farewell and not be tempted to use those for other threats.

@michaelcollins4534 4 ай бұрын

As a mono red enjoyer I've had to start unironically adding warping wail to my decks just for farewell

@Qazplm601MC 4 ай бұрын

@@michaelcollins4534 as a mono green enjoyer I’m right there with you, Warping Wail is our only out, even run old Boseiju to make the Wail uncounterable since the farewell players in my meta almost always have a counterspell up to protect it. Of course, then they usually just fetch mystic sanctuary and return Farewell to hand to cast it on their next turn. I’m so tired of Farewell…

@Chonus 2 ай бұрын

@@michaelcollins4534 Tibalt's Trickery is a hard counter in red, definitely playable.

@michaelcollins4534 2 ай бұрын

@@Chonus I'd rather not spin them into their bombs tbh

@Chonus 2 ай бұрын

@@michaelcollins4534 Have you played the card? It's definitely better than warping wail.

@Beam_on_team 4 ай бұрын

The less obnoxious alternative to Cathars Crusade in go-wide white decks is Starlight Spectacular. It still requires some maths, but it means no counters, 4 mana, and immediately game ending if you top deck it with a board already established. It's also very budget friendly!

@TheSpiritombsableye 4 ай бұрын

Just like them up in a conga line.

@olddaydreams 4 ай бұрын

It was a treat when I noticed a good boy on the bed behind Crim! Love getting to see one of the puppers

@TheAlmightyGoiter 4 ай бұрын

Everyone would hate sol ring if it cost as much $$$ as mana crypt.

@angusblankenstein99 3 ай бұрын

I hate Sol Ring even at 50p

@dcnole 4 ай бұрын

Credit to Crim for being an on-brand Grixis stan. To summarize the cards he hates: Anything green or white that is even semi-good.

@Vertrie 4 ай бұрын

The more I watch, the more I realize Crim and I are the exact same type of players, when he was talking about the golem commander, I was 100% on board with everything he said, even the mention of green only for the handful of splicers, I was like "The Mahdi has spoken."

@MakeVarahHappen 4 ай бұрын

If you play Rhystic and win we will all be talking about Rhystic, not your jank. This is like calling Allurn/Acererak combo a dungeon deck.

@Awesomesausages 4 ай бұрын

4:02 "How do you hate Farewell? It's so good." You just answered your own question. Fuck this card. I'm so happy to be playing in a friendgroup where we don't need six-plus wraths in each deck. Also, shoutout to Tragic Arrogance: great, powerful wrath that doesn't completely halt the game.

@TheAlmightyGoiter 4 ай бұрын

That's a good card. I've been running divine reckoning forever since it doesn't leave everyone on an empty board and stop the game.

@Balileart 4 ай бұрын

Crim saying "oh but there's also the artifact deck that's popping off so you need something to deal with that" like my brother in christ, Austere Command is right there

@mrWade101 3 ай бұрын

@@Balileart In what world is Austere command not just a worse version?

@ethanhughes3515 4 ай бұрын

I think we need a commander clash episode “oops, no wrath’s” then next week “oops, all wrath’s”.

@donb7519 4 ай бұрын

We did have a no wrath episode it was pretty good

@MrBFriedm 4 ай бұрын

All of Tomer's issues have something to do with his "baby hands" 😂😂

@Newtontke 4 ай бұрын

Richard is my favorite Commander-related opinion person. He comes at the format from such a different perspective that his takes are either wildly crazy or secretly genius. This cast generally has a very individualistic perspective overall, but Richard is the most unique among the group. Most Commander content is everyone agreeing to the general opinion on cards and strategies and it makes them redundant

@kevinthecarpathian 4 ай бұрын

12 wraths wtf, never want to play with Richard

@enriquemeza5291 4 ай бұрын

For real! That’s beyond excessive. Long boring games.

@foggyparadigm4416 4 ай бұрын

Stupendously excessive and positively miserable to play against 😆

@NeoSamurai13 4 ай бұрын

I play the one ring in 0% of my decks. If i had the one ring, I would probably put it into 100% of my decks.

@ThePurpleGM 4 ай бұрын

I like to call cards that are very time consuming to play 'Busy Cards' and despite what a lot of people might think there is a vast difference between complexity and busy cards. Cathar's crusade and Coat of Arms are busy cards because they create a state of play that requires constant checking, but aren't complex in their design. I'd argue the busy card mechanic is the Day/Night cycle.

@ericjackman1143 4 ай бұрын

My rules for building decks these days are: - Typically under $150 - Using cards that directly synergize mechanically OR flavorfully with the theme of the deck This means that I have enough room to purchase a few niche and interesting $10 cards while avoiding picks like The One Ring if it doesn't match the theme. There are many functionally similar cards albeit much less efficient and sometimes needs multiple casts to get the same effect, but that saves room for expressing my deck in other ways. It makes for sometimes strange yet effective jank. Why run Rhystic Study in my budget Rafiq deck when I could instead use a Cold-Eyed Selkie, or a Thalia Guardian of Thraben?

@aklepatzky 4 ай бұрын

Cause youre not gonna win

@Jlizard27 4 ай бұрын

@@aklepatzkydoes your pod play 4 separate games of Solitaire?

@aklepatzky 4 ай бұрын

does your pod see sol ring t1 and throw grenades at that player cause yalls budget and decks are so low?@@Jlizard27

@Wearywastrel 4 ай бұрын

What we need is an anti farewell, we can call it welfare, choose 2 Return all creatures from exile. Return all artifacts from exile. Return all enchantments from exile. Thing goes wild with tormods crypt.

@cowsticker9618 4 ай бұрын

I think the constant arms race between casual players tends to let their decks creep up in power level and include a bunch of cards that they normally wouldn't.

@austinbrown2833 4 ай бұрын

Always love the content guys! Much appreciated

@Snipfragueur 4 ай бұрын

"Cards that are so good i would feel stupid not to play them"

@OGTahoe3 4 ай бұрын

8:40 i introduced some new friends to my old group. All my new friends were so confused why nothing could stay on the board and why we saw 6-9 board wipes a game. They said it was really eye opening in how non creature decks hold up against Stompy decks

@Scub 4 ай бұрын

Shoutout to Richard. When in a boring meeting in home office I‘ll grab a commander deck for shuffling. ❤ So relaxing!

@Onirikas 4 ай бұрын

Completely agree with Tomer's tale on wrhats, and how we should be playing more one sided wraths.

@DylanHunter64 4 ай бұрын

Seth's comment about Feed the Swarm makes me wonder, how long can something be officially in color pie before players start to recognize it as such? How long will it be before people stop erroneously saying that Feed this Swarm is a color pie break? How long did it take for players to stop saying that blue gets pingers after WotC stopped printing them?

@dorsalfin22 4 ай бұрын

The Teferi's Protection discussion hit home for me. I just finished brewing a fog deck and even in a dedicated deck for the theme I run only 13 fogs, including all three Richard mentioned. I'm starting to think about making a big battlebox that is 100% singleton so I'm only able to use every card once so synergistic cards have a chance to shine. So many good generic cards come out these days, especially with the rapid fire release schedule from WOTC.

@OdinMagnus Ай бұрын

30:00 For the dual-faced cards, I just make a proxy of the back side, and place it with my token pile. In a different color sleeve. That way when I flip the card, I just move it to my token pile and grab the one from there. I really like Thaumatic Compass, so that's an example of it that I just have the land side off to the side. 41:00 The best thing I like about Teferi's protection, is that their lands phase out too. What do you do against a Zangief out, with Jeska out. Then you drop a Questing Beast and all of a sudden you died because you can't defend yourself lol. 21 Commander Damage still beats "life can't change"

@Will_Morand 4 ай бұрын

I stopped running Cathars’ Crusade and Virtue of Loyalty in my Thalisse tokens deck exclusively because of the tracking nightmare. When I pulled the deck out and brought out a notebook to track how many I had of each token with how many counters, I realized it was getting out of hand.

@RyanEglitis 4 ай бұрын

My choice for card I hate but play anyway is Consecrated Sphinx. It just takes over the game, unless someone held up spot removal or a counter.

@Shimatzu95 4 ай бұрын

@tomer, if you are in a pod were trust is not an issue you can kinda skip shuffling most of the time. You just start searching from the bottom and if you dont take too long to find what you search (like the bottom 20 cards) it shouldn't realy matter that you saw them. Ps: Personally my problem is not handsize but I'm just verry bad at shuffling and dont want to risk damaging my cards.

@webbc99 4 ай бұрын

I have a fully double sided commander deck, every card including lands is double sided or a meld card, it's great fun for me and the table, even gets some laughs from people walking past or in games next to us when they see me resleeving for every land drop! One card I hate but still play is Nighthawk Scavenger, you have to keep track of the number of card types in all graveyards which is annoying. I also really dislike introducing the Initiative for one card, but you basically have to run Explore the Underdark in gates decks.

@TheSpiritombsableye 4 ай бұрын

43:33 you only need to know what the last flip in of day/night. You don't actually have to track it. Thr only trigger that will matter is the most recent one.

@tk421eatmyshorts 4 ай бұрын

Definitely this. Everyone always comments when some says “Draw, Go” and you usually notice when someone plays more than one spell, or are “popping off”

@OGTahoe3 4 ай бұрын

13:20 i have small hands as well. When i first got to edh i felt the same way. Now i dont have any issues with shuffling

@memonk100 4 ай бұрын

How much is tomer shuffling? I usually cut the deck merge them back and do that 1 or 2 times and get someone to cut done. It takes maybe 10 seconds

@Nekoboy728 3 ай бұрын

My Angel of Hope deck has 18 wraths. Planeswalkers, spells, and other common wrath effects. 35 Snow Covered Plains as well

@darthsnarf 4 ай бұрын

I also shuffle just for fun. I ruined a set of sleeves from just shuffling it non stop as a tick of sorts. i still have them and keep random lands in there and still just shuffle it for fun sometimes. i wish you had larger hands so you could enjoy shuffling tomer

@cylver3593 4 ай бұрын

During a recent game night, a friend of mine played Sol Ring turn 1 every game. We played four total games, I think, and he played three different decks across those four games, and he had Sol Ring the first turn for every game. I actually removed Cathars' Crusade from my Myrel deck so I did not have to deal with it. Having a different number of +1 counters on the same kind of token is annoying to keep track of, and bogs the game down quite a bit.

@Glanbalf 4 ай бұрын

Managing multiple +1/+1 counters is actually super easy with dry erase round tokens on the top of the cards

@mikemacbeath5310 4 ай бұрын

For the DFC I have a proxy card in the deck properly sleeved and everything, then have the DFC off to the side in a clear backless sleeve so you can clearly see both sides. If it gets shuffled away, the proxy goes back in the deck and the DFC is back off to the side.

@Bleuchz 4 ай бұрын

I am going to figure out a deck that forces opponents to shuffle and submit it to the next viewer deck battle now that clash is playing in paper >:)

@angusblankenstein99 3 ай бұрын

I used to have a 60 card casual deck that did this. Soldier of Fortune, Cosi's Trickster, Psychogenic Probe, Psychic Surgery. Bad but fun

@RPGFanboy14 4 ай бұрын

As a replacement for the celestis Seth there is an uncommon that came out in the last Eldraine set that I think could fill a similar niche called Collectors Vault. You do have to pay mana into it to gain a treasure but it also lets you loot.

@codytx2 4 ай бұрын

I play Cathars' Crusade in my First Sliver deck & have the same issue. They all end up different power, stacks of dice, easy to lose track of as they cascade.

@sevenangerywasps6103 4 ай бұрын

One podcast episode I'd love to see would be each of you recording a ~15 minute video breaking down your deckbuilding process, how you go about, the types of cards you like to include, and your general philosophy you use when playing and how that impacts your deckbuilding. Then just compile each of your clips into an episode and that's the podcast for that week! Would love to hear more insight from you all on that :)

@anthonylocker599 4 ай бұрын

Tomer hates tutors because he hates shuffling, Tomer hates duel face cards because he hates flipping them. Does Tomer just hate paper?

@brighamschellinger147 4 ай бұрын

When I saw Farewell leaked, I legitimately thought it was a fake card. "No way they'd make strictly better exiling Austere commamd," I said to my friends. Yet I had forgotten we lived in the 2020s and nothing is off limits anymore.

@discoviolenza1984 4 ай бұрын

There have been cards I've started cutting because I don't want to track because I don't like carrying around 20 dice and a bunch of extra tokens. Cards like Cathars crusade, Scute Swarm and Chrome Host Sea Shark come to mind.

@gaugeth 4 ай бұрын

Can confirm i run The One Ring in every single one of my decks, excluding precons.

@danielscully449 4 ай бұрын

I love how half of these are cards that make you pay attention or do something (shuffling, pay the one, etc) and the rest are wraths lol I have to agree on some of these though ngl

@battlegrizz3687 4 ай бұрын

I have 6 non precon decks, all have a One Ring, Sol Ring, Mana Vault, Ancient Tomb, and 4 of 6 have Jeweled Lotus. Gotta have some fast mana

@Jlizard27 4 ай бұрын

Not if the rest of your pod also agrees to not use it

@NotoriouslyADD 4 ай бұрын

Everyone's one equal ground after the farewell. I agree, Balance is the most balanced card.

@TheForeverRanger 2 ай бұрын

I feel the Hakbal thing completely because one person in my group always brings Hakbal to the party. He is usually enemy number 1 because the deck can get out of hand quickly.

@Schmanton 4 ай бұрын

I have the one ring only in my frodo deck, mostly just because it's one theme and i got it as the draft set promo.

@maciekwilkosz6377 4 ай бұрын

I have the same feelings about Farewell. Austere Command used to be a format staple. These does everything it did but better. In general there is way too much exile effects latały allowing less counterplay, hating on death triggers and graveyard synergies. You need answers, yes, but such catch all cards are toxic to play against.

@Daxelman 4 ай бұрын

I don't hate Farewell, I hate what it does to random pods. People rarely want to go another round (or even continue the current game) if that card comes out, especially ahead of curve. I think it's pretty cool, but everytime it's played it sort of just deflates the table in ways Cyclonic Rift doesn't.

@mopanda81 4 ай бұрын

honestly starting to enjoy things like river's rebuke that are a one player reset button but don't have to knock everyone else off tempo as a good "calm down" signal

@Guitar_Guy85 4 ай бұрын

I love listening to you guys having to adjust to the problems us pleebs who don't play online deal with constantly. Haha. I just might start watching game play videos now.

@Balex115 4 ай бұрын

Why would you only run 1-2 counterspells? Like 5-8 is way better. They defend your board from wraths, help you push you wincon through interaction, and sometimes stop a giant X spell or a game ending sorcery. I guess it does depend on the deck though but gosh ive never run less than 5 personally.

@VinegarAndSaltedFries 4 ай бұрын

Genuinely I have cases of Ultimate Guard Katana’s I love shuffling because of them. Dragonshield is also nice but Katana’s are just so much smoother. Awesome sponsor and product

@zadocr675 4 ай бұрын

I think Farewell is necessary, especially when we get more cards with hexproof and/or indestructible or cards that grant those abilities to permanents

@colbybastian17 4 ай бұрын

Summation of Tomer and Richard: "I am lazy and don't like actually playing Magic or thinking" XD

@steaddie527 4 ай бұрын

I'm currently building an Inti, Seneschal of the Sun deck and 'The Celestus' seems like a serious consideration surprisingly, despite the terrible dreaded day/night

@tyiscool12321 4 ай бұрын

The shortcut for day night thay ive found is when the next card comes out, just walk backwards to see when the last time people either cast 2 spells in their last turn, or when they last passed their turn. I feel like most times people cast two spells in their turn so it shouldnt be that hard to reset back to where it needs to be at

@solomonaddariodavies8974 4 ай бұрын

Richard saying « run 9 wraths to be less suspicious » cracked me up 😂

@Proudfootzorz 4 ай бұрын

I run a One Ring ONLY in my CEDH deck. I think it would make my other decks better, but I don't run Sol ring either so I'm trying to play casual.

@3gard0g-s7one2 4 ай бұрын

tomer needs a hug and reassurance about his hands

@DCII 4 ай бұрын

I have 22 decks and I run a sol ring in every one. I don't see any problem with it. I don't mind being the threat or neutralizing the threat. That IS the game.

@LuKo3x5066 4 ай бұрын

Except for the last three picks I agree with the whole list. Pro tip for day and night: rule zero that when there is nothing caring for the mechanics on the board, it is neither day nor night.

@masterthnag105 4 ай бұрын

Sol ring doesn't need to go in every deck. The more colored pips you have the less useful it is.

@TryphectaOG 3 ай бұрын

Tomer, I need to see your Tetzin deck in action! I can't find gameplay of any Tetzin decks, it was beginning to make me feel like I imagined the card 😂

@brighty-go6nn 3 ай бұрын

Why do I feel like farewell and Voja aren’t like even that bad, like as boogiemen go, they seem down right agreeable

@PrimNexus 4 ай бұрын

Couldn't have Richard just done this episode solo

@user-zk7fr2yl5r 4 ай бұрын

Instead of running those 8-12 pieces of interaction just start running 15 boardwipes

@theliving1037 2 ай бұрын

Holy crap, i opened like 2 one rings when the set first came out. Didnt know it was so expensive

@AnaFreakle 4 ай бұрын

I have a pile of cards on every table? Even at work. I randomly shuffle them to relax and prevent me from biting my nails. Shuffling ist the absolute best!

@coryledwitch6492 4 ай бұрын

That’s an interesting concept about the one ring within a crappy deck making it more competitive. Not sure I agree there, though. I’d ask the question, “Does this card just generically elevate the level of my deck by itself?” Regardless of whether you are drawing all your bad cards, you are still filtering through your deck to get to the good cards. Likewise, unless everyone unless is playing that card and all decks are relatively crappy or even in PL, you are hugely breaking parody by slapping down a super powerful draw engine. This is the moment that you become the archenemy. That’s why people are saltier over the one ring rather than, say Sol Ring. Everyone at the table probably has one, so everyone has an equal chance of drawing it.

@bassface1018 4 ай бұрын

100% with Richard on the clear sleeves, I do that even with my werewolf deck.

@T_Peazy 4 ай бұрын

Seth, you don't have to play feed the swarm. It's the same as when we had to play unstable obelisk or the other colorless options. You just hate that it's thr best option and you're CHOOSING to play the best card in that slot.