Playtesting the 2022 Pioneer Challenger Decks | Gruul Stompy vs Dimir Control

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Cardmarket - Magic

Жыл бұрын

The Pioneer Challenger decks were finally released and Jamin & Carl are playtesting them to find out which one is the strongest
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@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
🐉☄ Decklists: bit.ly/3F9l8Pz
@DerickTheHeroV2
@DerickTheHeroV2 Жыл бұрын
Hey I just wanted to say thank you for this content. Sincerely. This is good MTG content. The interview format helps without being too overbearing like a certain show I loved years ago and don't anymore. I could name it, but I know it's unprofessional for your channel for me to talk smack about others, so I won't. This is good content. Please keep the format as it is, don't get too deep into the interview stuff. The mixture of gameplay to interview is a perfect blend as is.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
@@DerickTheHeroV2 thank you! We also agree that too many interviews slow down the pace of the game ;)
@PharaohofAtlantis
@PharaohofAtlantis Жыл бұрын
Glad the dice budget was increased.
@derekhall8453
@derekhall8453 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@fyreaxis4938
@fyreaxis4938 Жыл бұрын
In this economy? I’m surprised they don’t have to outsource their RNG to countries with less N20PC (Nat 20’s per Capita).
@edwardgolden2544
@edwardgolden2544 Жыл бұрын
Lights $200 Card Sleeves $150 Decks $800 Dice $3600 Cameras $150 Somebody good at the economy help me budget this, my KZfaq channel is dying.
@christianhanel2129
@christianhanel2129 10 ай бұрын
​@@edwardgolden2544spend less on dice
@jackeea_
@jackeea_ Жыл бұрын
Congratulations Cardmarket on acquiring some more dice 🎉
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Flexin' that dice money 😎
@TinyLegs15243
@TinyLegs15243 Жыл бұрын
I love Carl's giddy laugh anytime anything happens lol.
@BandiniTheGreat
@BandiniTheGreat Жыл бұрын
29:22 It's worth noting that Shifting Ceratops cannot gain vigilance through its own abilities
@benzpinto
@benzpinto Жыл бұрын
oh! haha.
@blackj_9818
@blackj_9818 Жыл бұрын
Lol 🤣
@Bigd2k
@Bigd2k Жыл бұрын
I love the whole crew but the way Carl and Jamin play off each other is a personal favorite.
@nicodee8282
@nicodee8282 Жыл бұрын
One thing that i really appreciate about this chancel is how when Carl sees Jamin going in for the win he hypes him up. That’s great kitchen table kind of magic!
@krenchi319
@krenchi319 Жыл бұрын
The Pioneer precon deck from a year ago, actually was the first video I watched from you guys.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
I'm thrilled that you are still here one year later! :D
@Orinap
@Orinap Жыл бұрын
Same! Got me to play pioneer and Lotus Combo. (I know, filthy combo player)
@caseywellington4761
@caseywellington4761 Жыл бұрын
Same here! I wanted to understand how the Lotus combo is supposed to play out
@NerzugalRP
@NerzugalRP Жыл бұрын
This is the first of the Versus videos I have watched on the channel and really enjoy the overlay. Having the hand contents in the corners is so helpful and I really enjoy the cut-away commentary as well!
@NerzugalRP
@NerzugalRP Жыл бұрын
Finished the video on my lunch break and had to come back with some more kudos on the production value. Showing the triggered effects on screen as well for things like Cindervines and those cards in graveyard for Torrential Gearhulk - incredibly useful information to have on screen and the best overlay I've seen for live play games. Keep up the great work!
@Fabregas200788
@Fabregas200788 Жыл бұрын
yeah, Go Blank, what a combo with Drown in the Loch
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
It's in the deck! Also, it's fine to play them in combinationz you just have to try to maneuver your plays so that you use one before the other. The precon is full of nombo's anyway ;)
@wobwub8188
@wobwub8188 Жыл бұрын
I love this, how they explain thought process while keeping the tempo. Subbed
@ThomasCann
@ThomasCann Жыл бұрын
Guys, these are getting awesome. Your editing process is subtly improving with each video! Great job!
@kumbertjoehl-lee8898
@kumbertjoehl-lee8898 Жыл бұрын
Nice i initially got back into mtg due to the pioneer precons from last year and it introduced me to your channel :). Hope the 4 from this year gives you guys a lot of new content to create :). Personally looking to get the Dimir one but kinda sad that they feel kinda watered down on some front *hust* *hust* Shark Typhoon...*hust*
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
And the one watery grave 😅 but I'm happy you are still here watching one year later! :D
@the7569
@the7569 Жыл бұрын
I've been finding myself more and more wanting to get into pioneer. it seems like genuinely such a fun format, I wish that magic gave more support to their 1v1 60 card formats. like I enjoy Commander but I think this is how magic was always intended to be played and it's the way I like to play the most. with how gross modern is right now especially with all of the horizons stuff and the new Lord of the rings stuff on the way I find myself wanting to get into pioneer more everyday. I'll have to look around for local game stores in my area that actually have tournaments. always love your pioneer gameplays and I'm happy that card market finally gave you guys the dice budget that you were so desperately needing
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
If there are local Pioneer tournaments, you should definately check them out! The format is healthy and fun. It reminds me of old standards from 6-12 years ago :)
@regional1000
@regional1000 Ай бұрын
Commander is boring. It's too long and I can't maintain my patience or focus for games thst go more than 30 minutes.
@emidex8721
@emidex8721 Жыл бұрын
I still remember last year on my old couch i was watching last years pioneer challanger decks videos. And now 1 year later you have more dice. Wow times have changed man
@OdePery
@OdePery Жыл бұрын
These Videos are so well made, I never enjoyed watching paper magic so much. Keep up the good work guys :)
@BigMek123
@BigMek123 Жыл бұрын
Super interested in a "upgrade" video about those (dimir especially)!
@alexjolly5787
@alexjolly5787 Жыл бұрын
would love to see the standard precons decks vs 1 another like this looks like they would be fun
@KnicKnac
@KnicKnac Жыл бұрын
You all are a blast to watch. Very fun stuff
@shawntapley6733
@shawntapley6733 Жыл бұрын
gruul precon replacing glorybringer and the spells with werewolf packleader and reckless stormseeker, and 4 embercleave is crazy fun
@klarkammerman7096
@klarkammerman7096 Жыл бұрын
Gotta have lots of dice!!! LOL! Thanks for the Pioneer content. I really enjoy your videos! Keep them coming!
@elitebuster2012
@elitebuster2012 Жыл бұрын
I love that you're looking at precons! Getting the opinions of some seasoned magic players on how they work and stuff is always really cool! Ever think about doing a couple of the Game Night decks that recently dropped?
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
We had not considered it, but we'll talk about it today! :) thanks for the suggestion
@montgomeryharr30
@montgomeryharr30 Жыл бұрын
SO HAPPY THESE ARE BEING FEATURED!
@ElGrandeFatso
@ElGrandeFatso Жыл бұрын
You guys actually have MORE DICE now!? Guess the budget increase was approved! Gratz guys! Also interesting to learn that the Giant and the Rider have more in common than I expected.Poor guys just want to go into buildings.
@rippinskid
@rippinskid Жыл бұрын
hope you guys can put out more videos like this, good for beginners to the game
@endlessrain6992
@endlessrain6992 Жыл бұрын
That game 2 was really frustrating from the control side, so many almost-plays that don't quite work because you're at 1 😅
@TimmytheSorcerer
@TimmytheSorcerer Жыл бұрын
It was really cool to see that Game 2 turn around completely 💃🏻
@DerickTheHeroV2
@DerickTheHeroV2 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say that this channel has become a sleeper hit of mine. Very underated.
@greenwave819
@greenwave819 Жыл бұрын
from the side, that looked like a lot of dice! Then from the above view, I noticed there was a backup column!!!
@rogergrau1232
@rogergrau1232 Жыл бұрын
would be super fun to see you playing old preconstructed decks (mirrodin, old kamigawa) Just to bring the good old memories
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
It would! We actually plan on doing just that! :D
@MrZebrot
@MrZebrot 2 ай бұрын
Carl "playing around stomp" immediately followed by "please don't draw stomp" is a classic lol
@AbleAsmitha
@AbleAsmitha Жыл бұрын
The last turn was very cleaver and intresting on how the stack played out
@alexiswigginton452
@alexiswigginton452 Жыл бұрын
love seeing the budget for the show grow with those new dice
@antonchichona6700
@antonchichona6700 Жыл бұрын
those were some really close games. Nice!
@chadjehebej2258
@chadjehebej2258 Жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see a new cardmarket video, I like and comment and happily enjoy the great content :)
@ReederMG
@ReederMG Жыл бұрын
This was a ton of fun to watch
@vadernationbrovn7098
@vadernationbrovn7098 Жыл бұрын
A round of standard would be cool every once in 10 games or so. Just to see what the format is like every once in a while. Pioneer is cool too! I'm addicted to these gameplay videos by the way. I've run out of ones to watch and have tried to find the old ones XD
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Happy you like them! :) the main issue with standard is that we know absolutely nothing about that format right now. We'd feel like imposters playing it 😅
@SchakelT
@SchakelT Жыл бұрын
Really liking the content. I know you guys are all about that Modern format, but how about some games of Premodern? Very interesting format with a lot of diversity, and of course those cool old frame cards!
@helhal
@helhal Жыл бұрын
I remember your subs count when the last pioneer precon match was. It was 14k. 🎉 now almost 60k. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Thank you for still watching! 😃
@RappingRain
@RappingRain Жыл бұрын
I definitely think Yamin should have deployed the Shifting Ceratops earlier to chump the shark token, protecting the Chandra at 7 to ult next turn. With only one card in the control player's hand, and Ceratops being Uncounterable, you have practically nothing to worry about outside of exactly Heartless Act since the Field of Ruin was tapped down.
@sebastianjasinski3538
@sebastianjasinski3538 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking
@najoheuer
@najoheuer 8 ай бұрын
Jamin sided the Ceratops in for game 2, talked it up, but I really think he underestimated how effective it is in this matchup, holding it for so many turns really felt like a mistake.
@Amor13267
@Amor13267 Жыл бұрын
Super entertaining as always folks
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
I think it was the correct play in the end, the ceratops could have died to languish next turn 💁‍♂️ can never really know though -C
@yavivanov6650
@yavivanov6650 Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic you didn't know that he has languish. It was incorrect in this case
@DerringerHK
@DerringerHK Жыл бұрын
"Stop it Carl, you're doing the Toffel thing!" haha
@bombatwombat3680
@bombatwombat3680 Жыл бұрын
On this episode of Cardmarket: Carl censors an interracial relationship
@AJKiesel
@AJKiesel Жыл бұрын
Well, it looks more like an interspecies relationship to me.
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 Жыл бұрын
🚨***This joke is dangerously close to the danger zone! 🚨 Please refrain from further comments. Thank you for your attention***🚨
@pattap9033
@pattap9033 Жыл бұрын
In rund two, it would have been an idea to cast the elf first instead of lovestruck beast and then in the next turn cast ceratops because of protection from blue :D
@sushi521
@sushi521 Жыл бұрын
Now that the dice budget has increased you should share a link to them in the description haha
@Jesterofyugi
@Jesterofyugi Жыл бұрын
I want to see pauper commander with you two, thoralf, and 8rack
@troidzster
@troidzster Жыл бұрын
Please do a video where you talk about the decks and how to upgrade them, like you did about the first pioneer decks 😊
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
We are planning on doing this closer to the product release :)
@troidzster
@troidzster Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic lovely! Love that video, especially Jamins suggestion of selling the actual box to create more value 😆
@JJW410
@JJW410 Жыл бұрын
I just heard the Prof on Tolarian Community College's newest video talk about a relatively new format called "Heritage", has the team heard much about that?
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
We had not heard about it till you mentioned this! We'll look into it :D
@SteliosPapachristodoulou
@SteliosPapachristodoulou 2 ай бұрын
What set are the basic lands they are using from? they look awesome
@eatmoretidepods2499
@eatmoretidepods2499 Жыл бұрын
Yes please showcase all these
@andreaspersson4823
@andreaspersson4823 Жыл бұрын
As you asked for other formats, you should try Premodern!
@DRAGHNALL
@DRAGHNALL Жыл бұрын
Ok so at 21:16 why not up tic for 2 red mana cast the Shifting Ceritops and then give it haste?
@benjaminsouthworth5698
@benjaminsouthworth5698 Жыл бұрын
I know correcting play isn’t the most fun but JAMUN CHANDRA CAN MAKE MANA. It worked out pretty well with the language but I feel like upticking chandra for the mana to cast ceratops and beast and stuff was just easily the correct line
@ringoderbar1522
@ringoderbar1522 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see some Heritage, either Modern or Legacy Heritage.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
We very recently did modern without the Horizons sets 😃: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLCbZqpqq62yqKM.html
@MindstabThrull
@MindstabThrull Жыл бұрын
I just found out there's a format called Heritage. It's basically Legacy but only allows cards that were legal in Standard. So no Commander-only cards or Battlebond or any other weird stuff!
@tylerdibenedetto2641
@tylerdibenedetto2641 Жыл бұрын
36:58 Feels gooooood
@Ragnarok633
@Ragnarok633 Жыл бұрын
Seems like someone got some top decking advice from Toffel. Just turn creatures sideways and draw winning cards!
@michaeldibner9342
@michaeldibner9342 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video :) I have a question. Is there a reason at 10:53 to play the Fatal Push rather than the adventure of Murderous Rider on the end of Jamin's turn ? It ends up not mattering, but the 3 mana spell seems more mana efficient to me in that situation. Is it a light misplay, or am I missing something, something that gives the priority to the Ooze for example?
@michaeldibner9342
@michaeldibner9342 Жыл бұрын
I mean casting the adventure on Chandra rather than casting the push on the ooze
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
So it might not be absolutely correct but I tanked on this real hard and cut it in the video. So here was my thinking: I had drown in the loch and if I kill the Chandra with the murderous rider, I was afraid of a stomp end of turn once i'm tapped out, so I made the play that let me keep up drown that turn and the next. Also, I imagined that if I killed his chandra, if he had nothing in hand, he would start eating his own graveyard with the Ooze to beat down with it and it would turn off my drown in the loch 😅
@michaeldibner9342
@michaeldibner9342 Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic Interesting, I hadn't thought that deep. And if I'm correct, there's only a small percentage of your deck for which a 2 mana difference on your next turn would have mattered, so the downside is acceptable.
@Griever49
@Griever49 Жыл бұрын
it is funny you said gruul is not a meta deck in pioneer, because either wizards had good prediction or they got lucky because just recently gruul started getting important in the format, I think a very similar gruul deck is to this one is currently tier 1
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Yes 😃 Gruul vehicles became good out of nowhere! Which is great because that deck is awesome!
@Griever49
@Griever49 Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic Yeah, it is the same base of the deck, pretty much only needs a few changes, and they are not 100% needed, I mean, questing beast is still strong, but it is a good investment if you want to make your own gruul deck
@equos5060
@equos5060 Жыл бұрын
I'm usually an edh player but I really liked this vid.
@arivald6677
@arivald6677 Жыл бұрын
21:27 with that enchatment on the board youre on the clock, chandra should had went up for 2 RR to play that green Dino.
@szymon131
@szymon131 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that content
@benzpinto
@benzpinto Жыл бұрын
gruul pioneer challenger looks pretty solid
@jvan6582
@jvan6582 Жыл бұрын
What are the sleeves you are using today? And go Dimir
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
The blue sleeves are custom dragonshields that are no longer listed online, the brown sleeves can be found here: www.cardmarket.com/en/Magic/Products/Sleeves/100-Cardmarket-Mystic-Sleeves
@TheNoblestMan
@TheNoblestMan Жыл бұрын
Did... Jaymin give Shifting Ceratops *vigilance* at 29:20?? I had to reread the card a couple times, but I'm pretty sure that is NOT on the card.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
There's a lot of text on that card 😅 you'll have to forgive him for getting some of it confused
@think2one3
@think2one3 Жыл бұрын
still not enough dices :D i wanna see more !!!!! :P
@Alexsnow0_0
@Alexsnow0_0 Жыл бұрын
This was a very entertaining video, and I've heard of a format called Penny and don't know anything about it. Maybe you guys might be interested in playing it.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Penny Dreadful! It's a great format on magic online that plays cards that are only 1 cent in tickets. We have it on our list of videos to do in the future :)
@laconquista6227
@laconquista6227 Жыл бұрын
Play more challenger decks Let’s see which one is the king of ALL 8 precons
@iuribogar9611
@iuribogar9611 Жыл бұрын
"how does this have reach?", says the guy with a GIANT FLYING SHARK 🤣🤣🤣
@dasfabelwesen
@dasfabelwesen Жыл бұрын
So how does fatal push work? Do I not understand it correctly?
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
You may target a creature. If it costs 0-1-2 to cast, it dies. If a permanent you control died, returned to your hand, or was exiled during the same turn, the creature dies even if it has 3 or 4 total mana cost. I hope this helps? Or does it make it worse?
@tedpengu1n
@tedpengu1n Жыл бұрын
Are you going to do budget and non budget upgrades for the decks and then play them?
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
We can't do 4 whole gameplay videos on the same decks 😅 but we'll definitely do an upgrade video
@Pintyhet
@Pintyhet Жыл бұрын
These were good games.
@ThePainWhale
@ThePainWhale Жыл бұрын
43:10 if you want a really weird format to play, pre-modern is most def up there
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
We specifically have guests over this weekend to record some much older formats :D we'll see if we can get premodern in there
@bradmacgregor8722
@bradmacgregor8722 Жыл бұрын
GG on the dice
@0hboii13
@0hboii13 Жыл бұрын
Yamin didn't even use the ceratops right
@HollywoodModelling
@HollywoodModelling Жыл бұрын
Jamin punted the second game so hard
@kevinfarner6052
@kevinfarner6052 7 ай бұрын
I'm new to MTG and trying to build a dimir deck for pioneer/modern. Is this dimir deck a good starting point? I have a small collection of blue and black cards I'd probably swap out
@Itsveryover
@Itsveryover 4 ай бұрын
Control can be a little intimidating/ tough to pilot for new players.
@kevinfarner6052
@kevinfarner6052 4 ай бұрын
@@Itsveryover I've been playing mill the last couple months and having a lot of fun with it! I started putting together a more traditional dimir control, but ultimately switched out the wincons for mill lol
@Itsveryover
@Itsveryover 4 ай бұрын
@@kevinfarner6052 Thats so great to hear man, as a modern player, I can say losing to mill is a lot cooler than losing to burn or scam. Respect.
@kevinfarner6052
@kevinfarner6052 4 ай бұрын
@@Itsveryover a lot of the people I've played against don't agree with you 😂 I just love making people flip cards lol
@jamesjett8050
@jamesjett8050 Жыл бұрын
Apparently Shifting Ceratops is just "G: Add whatever keyword you want" now. (Vigilance isn't an option)
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
hahahah, anything to win against Carl, right? 😅 I even read the card that day and was still 100% convinced. -Jamin
@stefano1650
@stefano1650 Жыл бұрын
which pioneer challenger deck do you suggest to buy?
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
If you are a new player, I'd recommend the gruul deck. If you want to win local tournaments, the best option is probably to buy the previous year's Lotus Field challenger deck and update it a little, but no one is going to want to play against you casually 😅
@stefano1650
@stefano1650 Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic lol. no well I'm an old player (legacy) and I'd like to start again super Uber casual and no time/effort to find other cards to buy. Like I buy this deck and I play with it.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
@@stefano1650 then I'd recommend gruul :) it smashes and turns creatures sideways
@hypers829
@hypers829 Жыл бұрын
Why can't carl block with the shark before the 4 exert damage resolves?
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
The damage happens before blockers are assigned
@hypers829
@hypers829 Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic thank you
@revoslawter3628
@revoslawter3628 Жыл бұрын
Do they come with full art lands?
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
No! The products are bot released yet. We are just using lands we like, but we assume the challenger decks will come with regular basics
@sunshindo3726
@sunshindo3726 Жыл бұрын
Probably my favorite format..
@Tiax776
@Tiax776 Жыл бұрын
What's mono-rot burn? Decaying carcasses on fire?
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Rot means red in German 🇩🇪
@Tiax776
@Tiax776 Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic Thanks for the reply. It was just a stupid joke.
@Vardaris
@Vardaris Жыл бұрын
Jamin says Reach is the most overlooked keyword. That's a nice video topic. Which is the most inplay overlooked keyword? By my experience it is not reach, it is menace.The amount of times players tried to do an illegal block in various games trying to block menace creatures with one blocker is ridiculous.
@betabrett0223
@betabrett0223 Жыл бұрын
15:50 I wish them a happy 7. Seems neutral enough.
@D_mm_rc
@D_mm_rc Жыл бұрын
great performance guys! Name of the song at 12:39?
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Here you go: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bpqKf5iSlbWqpmg.html&ab_channel=Backdropsounds
@D_mm_rc
@D_mm_rc Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic thanks Jamin!
@drunkgerbil9962
@drunkgerbil9962 Жыл бұрын
Love pioneer content
@GetMoneyMyrick
@GetMoneyMyrick Жыл бұрын
I had no clue WotC made pioneer precons..... I'm going to blame them and not myself
@2007Shockwave
@2007Shockwave Жыл бұрын
If you ever play dice factory, you'll need those dice...
@veganermetzger1234
@veganermetzger1234 Жыл бұрын
How could you negate the lovestruck beast?
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
It's a sorcery on the stack when you cast the adventure side 👍
@nickharman8200
@nickharman8200 Жыл бұрын
1:10 as an izzet player I can confirm 😎😎😎
@jellysandjamz250
@jellysandjamz250 Жыл бұрын
I usually say “have a game”. Because no matter what, they are going to have a game.
@Jesterofyugi
@Jesterofyugi Жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me what nationality Carl is? I just recently in the past couple weeks started watching/subscribed. His English is clearer than people in the states and I'm from here.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Carl is French Canadian 🍁
@Jesterofyugi
@Jesterofyugi Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic thanks for the info, and makes sense with his knowledge of French.
@blankfires7892
@blankfires7892 Жыл бұрын
Ok hear me out, I know consider is a better card, but I think if I bought this dimir pre con I would rather have thought scour, considering( see what I did there) that it fuels dig for time more and also let’s u mill your opponent early to turn on drown in the loch faster
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
This is not your fault, because reprints in supplemental product make this very confusing, but thought scour is not pioneer legal ;)
@blankfires7892
@blankfires7892 Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic ah, im a modern player so I just assumed because it was reprinted it was legal, thanks for enlightening me though it’s really cool to get a response
@ncuco
@ncuco Жыл бұрын
Murderous rider shuffles deck I think.
@OscarPerez-nl7ie
@OscarPerez-nl7ie 6 ай бұрын
Why didn't he die at 25:40? Got attacked for 8 with 8 lifepoints remaining and nothing to block???
@Itsveryover
@Itsveryover 4 ай бұрын
He played a Dig Through Time during the declare attackers phase which made an 8/8 flying blocker.
@sigmadeltaproductions177
@sigmadeltaproductions177 Жыл бұрын
how do you feel about Drawn From Dreams using cost reducers instead of delve shenanigans to power out Dig Through Time? ultimate they both would cost UU but DFD can be hard cast without wanting to shoot yourself in the face.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Drawn from dreams is also strong, but the fact that Dig Through Time can be played on your opponent's turn is the key to it being so much more powerful in this deck. You want to keep up counterspells and removal, and if they don't get you a reason to use them? BOOM! You dig through time :)
@sigmadeltaproductions177
@sigmadeltaproductions177 Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic ah, yes the instant speed
@thork_tv
@thork_tv Жыл бұрын
dice dice baby XD
@zurreal8087
@zurreal8087 Жыл бұрын
Is this the cheapest of the paper play videos on this channel? They didn’t even have to shout out Karma Crow this time!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
We stopped shouting them out and pay them for the cards instead since our budget increased ;)
@willbracken1827
@willbracken1827 Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic I was wondering that, it's been a couple months since there's been a shoutout
@zurreal8087
@zurreal8087 Жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic Oh, cool! I hadn’t even noticed!
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