Best Hot Hatch? Ford Vs Renault Vs MINI

Best Hot Hatch? Ford Vs Renault Vs MINI - Carfection

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@Rade363 5 жыл бұрын

I fell in love with MINI JCW since I watched this particular video several years ago and finally got my own one a couple of months ago. Thank you, Carfection :)

@Whiponized 3 жыл бұрын

Congrats baaby boi? Whow is it now?

@brennanderek3104 2 жыл бұрын

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@leonelquinn9106 2 жыл бұрын

@Brennan Derek Instablaster =)

@niklasnevesrensen5679 8 жыл бұрын

Really good video! A bit of Top Gear without it becoming too awkward/wannabe. Just 2 blokes who likes cars and are able to talk about them without getting crazy boring or too technical. And last but not least, what a cool line up of cars!

@robz1471 5 жыл бұрын

Niklas Neve Sørensen yes but he called it a "stick shift"...

@CampbellZeroOne 8 жыл бұрын

I tried all of these and was more than happy to pay the extra for the Mini JCW! It oozes quality and makes me smile every time that I get into it. I recently paid Mountune money for a Superchips ECU remap which has given it a huge leap in performance and surprised quite a few people who thought that it was 'just a Mini'! I also opted for the auto box which I had absolutely no intention of trying, liking or buying because real drivers don't need them... Dunno if I'll ever go back now!

@jacobreising817 8 жыл бұрын

You described it perfectly, no buttons. Eco mode is your right foot, Sport mode is your right foot. That is the kind of car I love daily driving.

@hartsickdisciple 8 жыл бұрын

The ST twins are still the best hot hatches. They're the most fun to drive, and yet you can live with them every day. Ford captured lightning in a bottle with those cars.

@hartsickdisciple 8 жыл бұрын

***** The Focus ST has a better interior. I've owned 2 of them. They don't have top of the line quality, but they're not bad. Good for the price. It's not a rattle box.

@ThexMJT 8 жыл бұрын

Don't mind the interior of the ST think its a nice place to sit and be in

@nigo1787 4 жыл бұрын

"you can live with them every day" you can, but you have to make compromises. I'm OK with the interior, but not OK with the ride. The Clio is at least good at one point : it's a LOT more comfortable, with its hydraulic suspension bushes thingy, without compromising the handling

@giovanniares1895 8 жыл бұрын

I love the way british people can keep calm even before a crash (almost), and then smile too, hahaha great. ^_^

@inkno701 8 жыл бұрын

I'll bet if the Mini was a manual transmission it would have been the most fun. You guys should do a test of manual vs automatic transmissions, with both manual and auto versions of like an inexpensive car and both versions of a faster higher end car. And see whether the cheaper car with a manual is more fun then the high end car with an auto.

@bbkangs 7 жыл бұрын

I love my 2015 6 speed manual MINI Cooper S 🇬🇧

@thelegendthatismatt 8 жыл бұрын

Really loved this. Multiple presenters gave it a top gear feel which is never a bad thing!

@JuanCostanzo 8 жыл бұрын

I've bought a 208 gti a month ago and I have to say that little hot hatches are super fun.

@philip771 2 жыл бұрын

What an absolutely brilliant video!!! Gotta love Alex - "you are the sport button". I'm thinking of buying a used ST now and his summary has really helped me get over its shortcomings (interior, looks). Just so brilliantly filmed and compared, well done Carfection.

@carswithluke 8 жыл бұрын

I just love a Hot Hatch

@Blackgriffonphoenixg 8 жыл бұрын

This was as fun to watch as a Top Gear segment, I'm not kidding.

@Tiger5672 8 жыл бұрын

+LIMIT CYCLE I agree! It was filmed really well and the guy was fun to listen to :)

@AndresMilioto 7 жыл бұрын

I was looking for a comment like yours after I heard him say "you brought a Renault Clio". It was hearing Clarkson pissed off at Hammond's mustang, or May pissed of at Clarkson's alfa...

@Xyzabc998 8 жыл бұрын

Small, fast Fiascos have always been great. Avis used to rent out the old Fiasco S with the 1.6 Zetec. Just so much fun like the Pug GTi's. Mini's always seem to contrived not to mention big, especially the new ones. The MK I with the supercharger would be tempting though. Another great review.

@mwuuuu 8 жыл бұрын

Finally, a proper review/comparison vid! Great to watch, bit of top gear in there :)

@135eddy 8 жыл бұрын

Awesome video guys. Really like where this channel is going.

@jupitersamjk 8 жыл бұрын

Great review Zcar, more of this please!

@matgee8892 8 жыл бұрын

I still maintain that you cannot have a hot hatch with an automatic gearbox.

@kma198199 8 жыл бұрын

@ShadowFalcon 8 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The Clio R.S. Sold its soul (fun) to the devil (all out performance). Fiesta for me.

@ShadowFalcon 8 жыл бұрын

***** Not really. The 991 GT3 RS, is in an entirely different league from your normal hot hatch. It's a track-toy, not an everyday fun-mobile. Track-toys, and supercar (and hypercars) are allowed to have "race" gearboxes (because, in my mind, a DSG or Sequential isn't an automatic).

@dino130395 8 жыл бұрын

+Mat Guest True. I wouldn't have it in any car for that matter. A Dual-Clutch on the other hand is okay

@jimmychanga4130 8 жыл бұрын

+sax0joe the difference between the 911 and the Clio is the power. when these hot hatches have under 300 whp it makes it so much more involving using a stick. I get the paddles in a 911 although I would still rather have a stick lol. IMO isn't the whole point of owning a hot hatch to enjoy it?

@Autophorie 8 жыл бұрын

Are you comparing the new Focus RS to its rivals any time soon? Looking forward to that :)

@vincentadema 8 жыл бұрын

Gut wise I'd choose the MINI JCV, but the arguments you both make for the Fiesta ST are solid. Pleasure to watch.

@Mathis092 8 жыл бұрын

he's right, i would buy the fiesta st and the money i saved i would get some mountune upgrades and not void the warranty and have an awesome car

@sharinganwarrior2017 Жыл бұрын

Had my fist st a week running around 230bhp and yet to not smile when u give it some amazing machine and handles so well

@piero914 8 жыл бұрын

Yaaaay longer vids! I still won't forgive you for the name change, but I enjoyed this video. Thumbs up.

@Mugtree 8 жыл бұрын

I have a 2003 Cooper S. Had it from new and love it. Wish I could afford the JCW. Until I can I'll keep loving my Mini

@chrismilly 8 жыл бұрын

Excellent video really enjoyed watching !

@RussNicholls 8 жыл бұрын

Fiesta and with the saved £5k take it to Mountune :)

@alpinosnipes 8 жыл бұрын

Really felt like I was watching top gear :) great video!!

@marvinmaro1633 8 жыл бұрын

Great test guys.... But I missed one care in the test Peugeot 208GTI 30th hope that you test the car also, and the fiesta ST200..

@malcwells9147 8 жыл бұрын

Great review guys.I'll be honest. I was a bit sceptical about flappy paddles in the JCW, but they're actually a lot of fun. Makes great noises when you downshift. Just can't wait till Wednesday when mine gets the new Pro Exhaust for the JCW with the controllable valve for a bit more noise and a few more horses, a smattering of carbon thrown around it and a few other bits.You don't buy a MINI for practical or economic reasons though. It's all about having a laugh, and that's exactly what this car is.

@nopenope250 3 жыл бұрын

Non comparable cars. Ford ST is all, fast, beautiful, tunable, reliable, practical, economical.... While other two are missing one or more above mentioned things... Ford simply made best car and future legend.

@ThexMJT 8 жыл бұрын

ST is crazy fun, love mine

@lancevanamburg3924 3 жыл бұрын

I own a mini jcw. Proud as hell to say that. It’s so fun to drive.

@JSPE13 8 жыл бұрын

Great video, i reckon a manual mini would have been the winner, depending on weather the interior justifies the extra price, which in my opinion it does

@dalomusic5509 3 жыл бұрын

Got a JCW F56 few days ago. Glad i spent the extra money. I frkn love it!

@Yathuprem 8 жыл бұрын

4:23 Looks exactly like Topgear !! When they do the challenges in their episodes, Miss them Cant wait for the amazon show

@RandomVideosFirst 8 жыл бұрын

10:40 "Because the wheels are at each corner of the car" opposed to being in the middle of the car I guess lmao lol

@iansoderlund3539 8 жыл бұрын

I would pay to have Renault in the U.S.

@nr92cp6 8 жыл бұрын

Interesting your thoughts on the looks. I think the FiST looks by far and away the best. The Renault has little style to the design, while the Mini looks bloated with a bunch of funny-shaped ducts.

@neilmc5704 8 жыл бұрын

excellent video guys, keep up the amazing standards!! :)

@sheep4life97 8 жыл бұрын

Brilliant review!

@w-james9277 8 жыл бұрын

No hot hatch should EVER have an automatic gearbox imo

@cosminpopa8630 8 жыл бұрын

+Leopard95 I agree with you but the GTI double clutch is pretty damn good.

@w-james9277 8 жыл бұрын

Cosmin Popa Im sure it is but imo, hot hatches are about making the car fun and engaging to drive aka, taking a boring car and making it interesting. A double clutch doesn't do that. I understand why supercars use duel clutches but not a 2 litre hatchback.

@chung729chung 6 жыл бұрын

Not everyone live in areas that hv no traffic and no mountains.

@Kai_ST200 5 жыл бұрын

@@chung729chung living in Aachen, a quite old city, where the streets are really narrow, much traffic due big car competences here and many many cyclists from the big university RWTH. Also there are not many big hills in Aachen itself, but for sure Aachen is a city where it goes up and down all the time and has many small hills. Also the Eifel (where the Nürburgring is) is right next to Aachen, one of Germany's biggest mountains. I do not need any automatic or double clutch 😉

@matts1083 5 жыл бұрын

A hothatch is whatever the manufacturers want it to be. I'm pretty sure my automatic could kick most manuals buts. And I have more fun seeing them in my rear view mirror than you have using more components to gain less rewards. Pointless :)

@stephane_edouard 8 жыл бұрын

What was wrong with the XCar name ??

@Gasinduced 8 жыл бұрын

+Spike Club There would have been a some kind of licensing or network issue.

@PaulHojda 8 жыл бұрын

The Clio is by far the best looking of the three. Renault just need to listen and give it a bloody manual gearbox. Then it will be perfect

@dahorn100011 8 жыл бұрын

+Paul Hojda Exactly, I don't care if its slower, its just the feel and sensation of using a well sorted clutch and gearbox.

@PaulHojda 8 жыл бұрын

Admiral_Awesome Well, the Clio doesn't have a well sorted double clutch, it's a terrible double clutch. They should at least give people the option to chose between a manual or automatic, like most manufacturers do

@PaulHojda 8 жыл бұрын

Janner Jan I have driven cars with VW's DSG, and they were lovely. I have also driven a Mégane EDC, which has pretty much the same gearbox as the Clio RS, and it was nowhere near as good as the DSG. It was slow and always seemed to be stuck in the wrong gear at the wrong time, and shunted at low speeds. A lot of it has to do with the fact that the Renault gearbox uses a dry clutch, while the DSG is a wet multi-plate clutch

@YZJB 8 жыл бұрын

+Paul Hojda VW actually have three main DSGs: the DQ200 7-speed dry-clutch, DQ250 6-speed wet-clutch and DQ500 7-speed wet-clutch. Cars such as the Polo, low-powered Golfs, petrol Passats etc. use DQ200 while the Golf GTI and 2.0L diesels use the DQ250. DQ500 is used in Tiguan, Multivan, Caravelle etc.

@TheBioSkunk 8 жыл бұрын

+Paul Hojda The Megane's gearbox is not the same. If you did not try the Clio trophy's gearbox then you just don't know. It is very-very quick and responsive. What you are saying has nothing to do with the fact it is a dry clutch. Dry clutch gearboxes are even quicker than the wet ones. This renewed gearbox is from Getrag, not from Renault and it is brilliant!

@emrico 8 жыл бұрын

like the new format guys. a last gen 200 cup clio will with recaros will do me fine, a bit too hardcore for everyday but then it's very cheap in the used market...

@Dutchforces1 8 жыл бұрын

Are you guys planning on moving to 60fps soon? It's the only thing lacking about the great video quality.

@belgianbushrc7934 6 жыл бұрын

I used to hate on automatic transmissions, saying I would only have one if I had no choice. Having driven the Clio Rs 220 trophy 2017, I retract my statement, and am picking one up on monday!

@scottishfanta 8 жыл бұрын

This was fantastic!!!

@Lo10Wi 8 жыл бұрын

I would have really liked to also see the Seat Ibiza Cupra in this comparison and hear your opinion about it. I feel like the Seat is always forgotten... Is that because it cannot compare to the high levels of the competitors?

@jameslowther5227 8 жыл бұрын

I bought my ST-2 Fiesta with the Mountune MP215 upgrade upon collection. Not that I have driven a std ST, I have to say the smile factor is immense. I have ordered the new Focus RS to replace my much loved Fiesta ST.

@trevorbarrett5507 4 жыл бұрын

I own a 2017 Fiesta ST with a Stratified Stage 2 tune with the accompanying modifications. Looking to go Stage 3 when my decatted downpipe arrives. It's an absolute joy to drive! But I have to say, that JCW sounds amazing!

@93455Driver 8 жыл бұрын

How much do GT86's start in the UK?

@andrewbateson7795 8 жыл бұрын

i have an st2 with the mountune and it's the most fun I've had with any car. so much fun for the money. but nearly a year later I'm craving comfort and relaxation haha i still fear for my life everytime i decide to give it some though and that feeling is irreplaceable for such a cheap price

@xOMastaPOx 8 жыл бұрын

Could you guys do a video on the new Polo Gti

@slywind30 8 жыл бұрын

You guys always forget the Ibiza Cupra!, own a 1.4 tsi Cupra 6j pre facelift! It outruns the st any day, dsg7 box is superb and the power delivery is incredible! The limited slip diff works superb and can throw it into any corner!, they've changed to the 1.8 turbo now but still heard the 1.4 tsi is much more fun even with its known problems! Give it a chance sometime!

@Afgelope1 8 жыл бұрын

Almost couldn´t agree more, Fiesta ST is just perfect fun, for anyone at any Age.

@joerandall5072 8 жыл бұрын

What about the polo GTI?

@newamsterdanm 4 жыл бұрын

Jooou jooou, martes. What is the Price Tag🔖. How can I get in the USA?

@motorrecon200 8 жыл бұрын

I have a Mountune ST with the Cat Back exhaust and the Mountune Suspension and it makes the best car by far even better well worth the extra money.

@x58evo2puma7 8 жыл бұрын

What horse power is your fiesta st I have one mine is 215 hp ford has done a good job on this new Firsta better then the old fiesta

@motorrecon200 8 жыл бұрын

wayne allan its 215 with the Moutune MP215 kit on :). They have indeed its hands down the best car I've driven specially on country roads it just grips and flays along

@johnjackson12 8 жыл бұрын

How big is the mini now? not really living up to its name lol, Kudos for mentioning the 182 clio, i had one years ago and they are amazing fun

@meganjay30 6 жыл бұрын

i have heard from other videos that the fiesta st shades the JCW's chassis....

@blvk_sky 8 жыл бұрын

All 3 are awesome, but I'd take the FiST.

@Luke121201 8 жыл бұрын

awesome video... Next up... Super Hot Hatches please 🤘😜🤘

@ExoNavi 7 жыл бұрын

I love my ST. It's a steal at the price point

@matrobroberts916 8 жыл бұрын

great review watch out top gear!

@JULIANDORMER1963 8 жыл бұрын

Do the test again with mountune 230 please

@skylineXpert 8 жыл бұрын

you forgot the 208 gti peugeotsport

@jameslloydcole8783 8 жыл бұрын

Have you driven a GTi, they're super bland...

@dgbservices6049 6 жыл бұрын

James Cole no they’re not mate.

@higurro 8 жыл бұрын

8:50 is that a blanked out vent I see? Let me guess, it wasn't needed after they got rid of the supercharger but everyone was used to it by then?

@davidbates247 8 жыл бұрын

epic video shot lovely scenery great and iv got a st 👍

@JordanNaylor 8 жыл бұрын

@carfection, Why didn't you include a 208GTi, the new one features LSD, more power and is a fantastic little car. More similar to the Fiesta than the Mini

@AzimSF 8 жыл бұрын

Was that sheep brake noise added in or was it pure natural delicious braking?

@MidhunCM 8 жыл бұрын

+Carfection What vehicle is used for the camera crew?

@d0718 8 жыл бұрын

+Midhun C. Manohar Focus ST diesel

@TDarKKiller 8 жыл бұрын

+Midhun C. Manohar the defender... They've made a review of it

@pedaorm 8 жыл бұрын

+Yehonatan Lindell not anymore, its a focus now.

@SDMTB14 7 жыл бұрын

Im not saying the Mini is better but giving the prize to the Fiesta and the reason being just the automatic transmission of the Mini is just stupid. You can buy it with a proper gearbox and a bit cheaper.

@Mantenner 5 жыл бұрын

A bit cheaper? Yes. Cheaper than the highest trim FiST? Still no. The cost was the main point, not the auto transmission.

@peterdurnell3325 5 жыл бұрын

@@Mantenner Cooper S is arguably the direct rival to the ST though, not the JCW...

@TheAussiefrog 8 жыл бұрын

Let's see a review on the Clio 182!!!!

@WhitewalkerII 8 жыл бұрын

Next time add the Peugeot 208 Gti to the comparison

@MrBillyboyroge 8 жыл бұрын

Why?! The Fiesta ST has already won the battle. That's why in this video they are comparing a 3 year old car against the latest 2 'new' hot hatches

@WhitewalkerII 8 жыл бұрын

MrBillyboyroge Because the 208 is one of the best in its class and its engine is similar to the one of the previous Mini Cooper S/JCW.

@MrBillyboyroge 8 жыл бұрын

+WhitewalkerII as you say, the 208 is 'one' of the best in it's class The ST is 'the' best in the class the 208 is in... No need to compare it again

@WhitewalkerII 8 жыл бұрын

MrBillyboyroge As long as the cars are not compared you can't tell the Fiesta is the best. It's the best of the cars in the video. The 208 has been updated since its launch.

@MrBillyboyroge 8 жыл бұрын

+WhitewalkerII well maybe that comparison can be made when ford release the limited edition Fiesta ST200 (in uk June 2016)

@ThomasHarrisonLord 8 жыл бұрын

Would have been nice to see the Peugeot Sport 208 GTI in this comparison too :)

@bingoberra18 8 жыл бұрын

How about just buying the Clio 182 and call it a day :)

@russellwoodhouse1102 8 жыл бұрын

^^^^^^^^^^ this guy has the right idea!

@bingoberra18 7 жыл бұрын

***** Thats really what I wanna do, im driving around in a phase 3 clio 1.2, 75hp...

@russellwoodhouse1102 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah and the repair bills. I drive an R27 as a daily and it costs a bomb when summut gives up on it and it's very hard to get our child in and out of the back.

@jmcphee7 7 жыл бұрын

I had the R27 and I can back you up there. The recaros were impossible and the ride was bone shatteringly hard. I swapped it for the 200 and that was even harder lol

@cameronmilne3590 6 жыл бұрын

bingoberra18 because I don't want to die.

@Nakke144 8 жыл бұрын

I don't get what they have done with the new Mini. The first new Mini looked really good, this looks like a small SUV that has been shrunk in the wash. Fiesta ST, yes please.

@MegaGasek 7 жыл бұрын

You don't have to go to the most expensive one, to get the feel and fun of a Mini. The Cooper S is good enough and has the great interior the other 2 cars can't touch and it handles corners really well, plus it is fun to drive.

@kevingraham927 6 жыл бұрын

disagree the R56 is right in with the old style... the only thing I notice is more body roll compared to my R50, no problem fixing that, I mean I got my R56 used for only 15...with 19000 miles so some money to spend

@Edd5hott79 8 жыл бұрын

Is it me or has the first reviewer been watching a little too much Richard Hammond? Anyway, not complaining as these are free to view and I appreciate how much time and effort goes into it.

@kianabrishami5146 8 жыл бұрын

You guys should do a film on the Lamborghini LP750-4 Aventador Super Veloce

@lgliam 8 жыл бұрын

Whats the song playing during the piece on the ST? It's so catchy

@kma198199 8 жыл бұрын

the shitz by diarrhea tribe.

@kma198199 8 жыл бұрын

lgliam hopefully millions. No cunts, no babies.

@savke1982 8 жыл бұрын

Fiesta just needs a little wider wheel arches

@dahorn100011 8 жыл бұрын

Drew seems to have a bit of a gut now, is he going for the full clarkson look?

@whitewalker9622 2 жыл бұрын

Wich is the best version of the hot hatches basic siblings?

@rfouR_4 8 жыл бұрын

I too had a Supercharged Mini Cooper S. Mini is far too bloated now so I went with the Fiesta ST too.

@ScottZ370 8 жыл бұрын

Still would take the last generation Clio RS 197

@Gasinduced 8 жыл бұрын

+S Miller The 197 is good but the Clio III 200 fills the gaps of the 197.

@ScottZ370 8 жыл бұрын

Gasinduced I always forget the differentiation between them, your right the 200 is the one to get

@Gasinduced 8 жыл бұрын

+S Miller The Angel & Demon/Raider (Matte finish paint) and the 20th Anniversary (White or Yellow with the black roof) are the ones to get.

@amrith57 8 жыл бұрын

why does this relate remind me of topgear especially that scene where the guy comes with the Clio

@77GR1982 6 жыл бұрын

Fiesta ST: The New KING Of The Hill...

@Riklinkable 8 жыл бұрын

My Fiesta ST has a sport button! I am in Aus but sure the UK ones do too?

@Cain353 8 жыл бұрын

No, EU version has a ESC button. Same function though. Press it to turn on sport mode, hold it down to turn off all assists.

@Riklinkable 8 жыл бұрын

Yeah cool same same then. Cheers

@KevinpDouglas 8 жыл бұрын

Having test drove many hatches end of last year. I plumped for a fiesta st-3 in blue. It really is a great car. I also bought it on Black Friday securing £3k off list. My with change, I ordered the Mountune upgrade to 215 bhp for £500. Making this fast ford probably the fastest Bargain out there and be interested to see how it performs against its rivals figures now!!!

@richardhurr31 8 жыл бұрын

I'm about to buy one £4200 off list 😄

@KevinpDouglas 8 жыл бұрын

+Richard Hurr that's a great deal.

@richardhurr31 8 жыл бұрын

+Kevin Douglas yeah sure is! And think 2016 is the last year of the MK 7 ST? So I'd be crazy not to.

@atc37 8 жыл бұрын

Anyone else love how the "Mini" looks like it's the biggest of the three cars?

@truestar1995 8 жыл бұрын

yay finally... but I still haven't forgiven y'all for changing your name from XCAR

@brianmogle1121 8 жыл бұрын

Seriously? So, the only reason he likes the Ford better is because it is cheaper.... I thought this was about what car is most fun to drive??? Hands down it's the Mini. Way better materials and quality than the Ford and it will last a lot longer.

@danwright5592 5 жыл бұрын

Where was this filmed?

@alexandrefernandes9233 8 жыл бұрын

You can use the stick instead of the paddles. You only don't have the clutch pedal. But well... it is more engaging the manual shift, but it also take you of the wheel... I think it is a matter of likes!