Best combination

That's taking the biscuit

Thats some bullshit tho

Renault has 5 year warranty from Dec 2019 also

Lol. Good work.

i think i'd still get the renault megane, just not in trophy spec, and the difference in price would be smaller.

mistreku but the no trophy is slower than i30N

its good that the warranty covers it because a track shouldn't break a car because it's just harder driving then normal that's all

Buy the megane I took areal good look at all of them drove them all etc an the megane s the one looks an sounds the best

Since when did a VW have status?

I'd go with that

@@evilspiritchild Since 1974, dear Luís! The VW Golf is the model that set the pace in the C segment. Eight generations leading the way and creating the benchmarks for everyone else. GTI, GTD, VR6, V6, TDI, 1.8T 20V, V5, 16V, G 60, R32, TSI, e-Golf, GTE… 4-motion, DSG… Look it up ! Have a nice weekend !

superflea72 indeed. Im s fresh owner of a 300trophy edc, and its is just awesome. Stiffness isnt really that big of a deal. I owned a mk7gti with dcc and it does as much as no difference to your driving confort. After all, almost everyone who likes their golf’s look mint, put on some h&r, eibach, vogtland springs which makes the car as “stiff” as a cup chassie on megane. Lol

@@lordshark66 we went from a BMW M135i to the Megane, and imho you got bounced around more in the Bimmer than the Megane. ☺

superflea72 hehe, well as you said, dont know why the all complaining in these reviews!

They just tryna sabotage the Megane but they won’t win

@@lordshark66 same here blanc Nacre 👍🏼✌🏼

@Uno Nisu everything is more reliable than a renault

@@bdmr_isf another dumb fanboy... I bet you own a vw lol

@@SNapRicardo I work in a Hyundai main dealership. We have not seen ANY 'common' problems with the i30N yet, just a few isolated problems which happen with any brand of vehicle.

Most buyers will buy these brand new with warranties, I cant see reliability been a isue here. Yes second hand I can understand but I wouldnt easily buy a hot hatch because of the way people abuse them.

Chaert 100% my 200 has only ever needed brakes/cambelt/oil etc...

Calvin Orr from Mercedes to Renault? Are you insaine?

Kithuni till you owed one you wouldn’t understand Mercedes has very poor build quality do be one of them that’s fooled by the badge

@@calvinorr4389 but a35 amg...it's supposedly a good car, what didn't you like about it?

Christian Wold yeah there meant to be good cars maybe the build quality 10 years ago was a lot better but I had a long list of problems that was the same across the forums people experiencing so many problems it’s to much to list! Plus it’s the A35 AMG to be honest its not really AMG its hasn’t got the power stuff like S3 where annihilating me 🤣 embarrassing a five-year-old Audi but it’s all on line there in black and white there are just an overpriced Renault. On to the trophy RS Complete different machine it’s more race focused set up for a track you have to enjoy and be a good driver to drive the trophy in the Mercedes was a bit boring with all the driver AIDS 4 matic anybody can drive them fast because it does the work for you put both on the track The RS Will destroy it The only advantage the A35 will have is if it’s wet

@@calvinorr4389 thanks for the reply,. I guess I won't buy the Mercedes in the end then 😃

Look at Dan bush i30n, pushing 400bhp!! The thing is an animal 😂

You say Badge Snobbery...I say poor.

so the winner should be determined by simply being the cheapest? they should've just bought a Suzuki Swift along...easy!

@@martinallenuk Imagine thinking you're well off for a driving a slightly more expensive hatchback hahahaha peasant

@superflea72 lol can’t wait for Dacia Sandero Trophy R edition!

I love my i30n too! And you're right, best car for the money! Greetings from Germany! 🇩🇪😊

I agree with you on sound. I have a GTI and even with Akrapovic exhaust it sounds worse then i30N. That engine just has a better note. But overall I like the golf more, it is just a matter of preferance.

Chavs love the overrun sound!

I30N performance sounds way better than the golf. Especially the pops. As much as I like golf's they sound like arse lol.

Liking Hyundai is the absolute badge snob attitude 😉

@@robinmarples5198 Uh?

@@archer7716 It's not, as long as it's an honest, genuine reason. A couple of guys above said they'd chose the Golf because because they are only going to drive to work. (not intending to smoke anyone from the lights given half a chance when it's quiet then?) VW's are stylish cars, but I'd feel a little silly getting minced by an R, then watching it disappear into the distance while glancing sadly at the badge on my steering wheel. Then after, the 7k extra you paid sinks in while you sit in your kitchen. Still could be worse, you could have a GTD and find a letter telling you to come in to the dealers for a free 'tune up', just for emissions reasons, probably struggle to beat a milk float after that. lol

I have quite a few Ns in my area and surprisingly many Fastbacks like mine.

they are releasing a limited edition special one called the Hyundai i30N project c

Kenneth Dike so they say..

@@-LK34- true...

The Renault has a Japanese Nissan engine. :)

Hyundai offers own Tuning Options to buy! Carbon strut braves for example and on and on

@@Nordlicht05 really? awesome

This is the correct matchup the top model of the Megane is the Trophy-R that one can be compared with the clubsport s. Hyundai doesn't have a track focus car like the R and S models of Renault and VW.

Why is it faster?

@@martinandersson5278 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrdpoKmm1sqzimQ.html in this test you have Megane RS but this is the same track plus Big difference in time. I do not understand the logic behind the politics in Renault. RS trophy is unusable on the road. Trophy R has no back seats no 4 stearing plus its expensive. If i would choose I would go with simple RS

AdiL Trophy is unusable on the road... wtf are you on about. I own a trophy and it is perfectly comfortable for everyday use.

@@Angelos42 well man good for you. It is always the matter of perspective for JP is too stiff on the road. You can argue about it all Day but ultimately if you are ok with it its only what matters

AdiL Sure, it is a bit stiff, but nothing beyond what you’d expect from such a car. There are a LOT of regular cars that are way less comfortable on average roads.

I know, but it's like talking to a piece of wood, they can't........totally sold on VW

VW just got less reliable, not Renault more reliable.

@@danielburgin28 you sir are a prime example of sticking to the old misconceptions. Renault and all the other french manufacturers have upped their game tremendously in the last few years. Just look at the cars Renault had in the early 2000's and the ones we have now. A world of difference. Same goes for PSA. We could carry on criticising the french cars until the end of time. The truth is they are still french owned. What do we have that is still British owned? Diddly squat that's what!!!

I've owned several french cars over the past few years which have all had issues. I've owned a Swedish car with a french engine that had issues. I've worked in car hire and seen plenty of Peugeot and Renaults have issues. The Peugeot interiors aren't bad, but the Renault ones look very dated. These are not baseless accusations.

@@danielburgin28 let's agree to disagree. I have owned and driven many french cars in recent years too. Some not available in the UK. Latest Espace, Renault Talisman, Koleos, Kadjar even a Laguna coupé Monaco go. All fantastic cars with a ton more character than their German rivals too and even more reliable now.

I agree The ST should be in the loop at least...

You did not understand the purpose of the video. It s about upgraded hot hatchbacks on the basic one. Golf gti '' tcr '', megane rs '' trophy '' and I30n '' performance ''. The focus St exists in just 1 declination, the st

@@robinmarples5198 No. Not at all the Focus ST is perfectly capable of fighting the likes of i30N, GTi TCR and Megane RS..maybe not the Trophy. Infact in most race tracks the Focus ST is faster than TCR and Megane RS and i30N.

@@1989rs500 of course but that not the reason why it's not in the comparo. Listen the video carefully from the start you will understand... If not I will explain

@@1989rs500 the st is not an upgrade of an upgrade, if Ford makes an st s or an st r or an st something with upgrades it would be in the test. They just testing upgrade models. Tcr, trophy, n perf and not the basic one. The st is the basic form of the model not an amélioration. So it s not here

The new Type R maybe.

Are you saying two Mini Cooper S?

Same

South Africa?

@@mudalachirwa282 yup!

@@mudalachirwa282 Awe

Same

Type r wins

@@upbeatmantis86 The Megane beats the Type R on track. So nah!

So it will break down.

@@W42PZ You still think VW is reliable.

Well the 1.9 TDi from VW isn't that bad.🤣🤣🤣

@@bobby.matiro That was happening 20y ago

@@Bogdan00 I know, that's the point.👍😁

Not sure where you read that. But it does have it. Only basic models don't have it, same as all other cars here.

And in UK 130N is cheaper than these cars, it's very strange. Megane is the best track car.

The Cupra Leon is 245 is 25-30k the 300hp wil be 30k plus.......against the Golf R, is that what you meant?

Well if you were driving the Golf you could read the script off the back of it. Better still ask the driver to write it down for you and he can wait and give you it when you finish.

What?

Nowhere as it’s not a competitor for these cars. Might as well ask where the M3 is.

Sean Armstrong ...that’s not a real hot hatch, isn’t it?

jogu123 and neither is the A45. More a hyper hatch along with the likes of the RS3. Mercedes don’t have a competitor unless you look at something like an A250 in this price range.

James Love ...see. I was answering Sean! And yes, the AMG isn’t a hot hatch in its true sense.... let alone 4 wheel drive which takes it all away for me, not talking about affordability....

get a GTD instead

I don't think I'd spring for the TCR. A regular GTI would be just fine, especially with the performance pack.

ARentz07 I agree, the 7.5 performance pack is a great car for the road and I’d go for that over the TCR, the Megane would be best on the track which leaves the TCR nowhere

Dépends on the roads you have to go to work, I ve got a megane 3 265 cup, and even when I arrive at work brakes and engine are smoking hot

Robin Marples that’s a good point, do you have any vacancies where you work?

Also no chance in corners the chassis is not good

Did it loose?

@@milo6507 Did it loose?

@@robv1139 what are you talking about ? Yes the golf lose Renault nr1

@@milo6507 I was referring to the N and Golf.

Why?

Yes was thinking same... comparing new and near new competitors vs the now retiring Golf. I like all the cars but quality on VW does it for me... still the essence of a true hot hatch it needs to be a high quality comfortable daily. That is why I drive one. Though will be replacing with upcoming mk8 Golf R

Shiu Gen same here on all fronts! can’t wait to get myself a MK8 golf R

Its actually been around since 2013

TheFlyingPLiner right 😅 forgot about that since im in the USA

Mk7 wasnt sold until 2015 in the us

real world that GTI would eat them both mark my words

CarPassion ...what’s real world for you then - other than handling, accelerating and breaking?🤔🙄

Carpassion is a VAG fanboy and realworld is instagram pictures.

ThaDutchDK1989 ...ahhh, I see. Perspective drives believe I’d say.... rgds. from Sweden!

I gotta say, that I'm a fan of vag, but what has that got to do with anything? Oh, is VAG an acronym for Volkswagen Group?

Because the Golf R isn't as good as the TCR or handles as well.

@@tonyb1223 Isn't it 37k too though?

True but it kills you in petrol costs

@@cliffwilkins9178 I've had Renault's and the panels are flimsy as hell in comparison to VW their just better engineered.

@@cliffwilkins9178 lol the thinner gauge material used was but 1 factor I was pointing out and of course it does not constitute a well engineered vehicle either but from my own experience in driving both I prefer the VW's, each to their own ay..

@@DJ_Double_L He's right you know, he's talking about facts. BTW have you driven the N? If VWs are so well engineered, why are they halfway down on all the reliability charts I could find, and why did they have to resort to emissions cheating? Your thoughts please.

@@robv1139 reliability charts are BS and not very accurate due to many factors I can't be bothered going into. I've been driving VW's now for 20yrs and not once broken down in any. The diesel scandal is terrible I know but no company's are squeaky clean and rip customers off everyday with their over priced brands that us mugs buy. I've driven the N and it's a great car but definitely not as refined as say the golf gti's or the R and that's a fact. Each to their own really, if you have one and like it be happy..

@@DJ_Double_L Sure, this is just a debate, I'm on no ones side and buy whatever make and model I feel is best in terms of value, practicality, looks etc. This programme should of done that and it didn't. Your experience is a long one, but unfortunately nowhere near large enough to be considered an endorsement to the wider public because I see VWs at the roadside at least as often any anything else (so maybe you've been lucky). Please go into those factors you mentioned so I can consider them for myself, it may change my mind. I think it's a shame that your still happy to buy products from a company who are prepared to con their customers as well putting them others at risk. I would never subscribe to that myself. Am I right in saying the GTi is £7500, and the R is over £10,000 more expensive then the i30n? P.S. There is a big difference between over pricing that you ultimately have a choice over, and breathing in pollutants that were hidden, not once, but twice I believe?