THE BEST EPISODE YET! JINWOO VS IGRIS 🔥 Solo Leveling Episode 11 REACTION!
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@CarlieAndAnge 4 ай бұрын
A-1 cooking!! 🔥
@alobawilliams7474 4 ай бұрын
The next Episode is going to be much better And it's titled Arise only the ogs know
@GavinFox2028 4 ай бұрын
If you like A1 pictures anime then you guys might love Mashle Magic and Muscle 😊
@Hate---Love 4 ай бұрын
Someone wrote a funny comment somewhere: ''Igris POV is when you hold back against your little brother and all of a sudden he lands a sucker punch'' WITHOUT spoiling I will just say it was meant too in story also to give you some scene context the reason he was able to stop the sword with his hand is because the armor gauntlet for his right hand has an ability that negates all damage to that hand, they don’t show it in the anime but they do in the Manwha oh and the final blow was from him continuously using fatal strike kept boosting his damage over and over again.
@xanxiezxz130 4 ай бұрын
You don’t know how badass igris is
@user-pe7jh9he3f 4 ай бұрын
ARISE 😈
@Arthas28 4 ай бұрын
Igris POV is when you hold back against your little brother and all of a sudden he lands a sucker punch
@xproknockz4386 4 ай бұрын
Isn’t this considered a spoiler 💀😭
@cr6zym0nkeyiz 4 ай бұрын
Quit fucking spoiling people! 😤🤬
@muttaqinarief5291 4 ай бұрын
Shut up
@zipis11 4 ай бұрын
@@xproknockz4386 how?
@shawnfromstatefarm8822 4 ай бұрын
@@xproknockz4386your comment is more a spoiler than anything lmfao. Op wasn’t even implying anything
@Straw-s5e 4 ай бұрын
When Igris put down his weapons to fight fairly with Jin Woo I lost my shit over it
@VillainessAO 4 ай бұрын
Igris is him he my fav character after Jinwoo
@Itachi-no5xf 4 ай бұрын
One of the coolest moments in the entire Manhawa!💯
@ImAviex 4 ай бұрын
@@VillainessAO Beru though. Lol, I just love how goofy Beru is 😂
@FIRE-yy1zt 4 ай бұрын
@@ImAviex Igris as a character is better than Beru
@SON_GOKU_006 4 ай бұрын
@@ImAviex who tf is beru?
@escanor5999 4 ай бұрын
Igris demolishes Jin Woo Carlie: Oh he's cuuutee!
@sirmcdust5572 4 ай бұрын
And she's right! She sees the vision
@alexmax3502 4 ай бұрын
@@sirmcdust5572 Yep, Igris is adorable, he's easily one of my favorite characters.
@kcknowshowtoplay4302 4 ай бұрын
Cuz he/she is (I'm still confused if igris is supposed to be male or female)
@sammydray5919 4 ай бұрын
@@kcknowshowtoplay4302 The answer is yes 😊
@alexmax3502 4 ай бұрын
@@kcknowshowtoplay4302 He's a male
@GavinFox2028 4 ай бұрын
Jin Woo: I think I can beat him without using a weapon Igris: Are you sure about that 👊🤛🤜✊
@GoDSpeeD0o0 4 ай бұрын
Igris went : left , right , goodnight
@apratimsingh1306 4 ай бұрын
Igris used red flash😂@@GoDSpeeD0o0
@bevil7702 4 ай бұрын
Still it's the plot Armor that beat Igris 😂
@farshadop5207 4 ай бұрын
@@bevil7702 yeah 😂
@Reversedinsanity 4 ай бұрын
@@bevil7702 igris just wanted to get beaten by his king 🤴
@FrizFroz 4 ай бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time Jinwoo drops his Teleportation Stone I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice.
@plushxi 4 ай бұрын
I’m saying! He better not drop another one ever again! It was weird how he took it out just to think about using it instead of crushing it right away.
@brucecurtis9368 4 ай бұрын
Well, he 'dropped' the first one back into his inventory...does that count? It is understandable that he always hesitates to use the stone. Once he does he's given up and probably can never go back again. He's always lived on the edge of death and managed to find a way through precisely because he never gives up.
@conjon4918 4 ай бұрын
😭😭😭this is hilarious
@MeltinJohn2834 3 ай бұрын
And he always stabs things in the eyes lol. He's won like 3 fights he was gonna lose by doing that
@spider-jeff_101 4 ай бұрын
7:50 Carlie be like ‘I can fix him’ to Igris
@no_SKape 4 ай бұрын
theres nothing to fix my man, igris best girl!
@spider-jeff_101 4 ай бұрын
@@no_SKape that’s so true
@speedrunner3312 4 ай бұрын
Igris would "fix" any one of us into swiss cheese with those lightning fast punches lmao.😂
@jakemurphy8354 4 ай бұрын
He should NOT have won that he even said it himself lmaooo Igris was hitting those meannnnn combos
@neito.m.6741 4 ай бұрын
Yea, personally I think it kinda was an ass pull how he managed to win. Oh, I'm just scream and my eyes are going to shine bright blue and suddenly ima stab him the neck even though I couldn't stab him all fight lmao. He's completely way powerful than me, but oh ima suddenly over power him and shove him into a wall lol. Like what?
@SaimaAhsan-iz6ee 4 ай бұрын
@@neito.m.6741I don’t wanna spoil u but just saying there’s a reason for sung being able to beat igris
@NightWalker989 4 ай бұрын
@@neito.m.6741 he didn't stab igiris in the neck, Jinwoo first used a fatal strike to stab igiris in the eye and after that he stabbed(multiple fatal strikes) him in the head, through the space between the helmet and the body Armor. If you look carefully there is space below the helmet through which the dagger went in.
@Hate---Love 4 ай бұрын
The reason he was able to stop the sword with his hand is because the armor gauntlet for his right hand has an ability that negates all damage to that hand,they don’t show it in the anime but they do in the manwha oh and the final blow was from him continuously using fatal strike kept boosting his damage over and over again. On top of that, he pretended to be done so he can catch him off-guard hence why he was able to win. Otherwise, he wouldn't have stood a chance @@neito.m.6741
@SynergyHD 4 ай бұрын
@@neito.m.6741a lot of people complaining like u that jinwoo beat igris is not logical but then if we tell you why it is a spoiler
@dajtoad1 4 ай бұрын
I think what is not clear here, which is clear in the manwha, is the nature of the armour Jinwoo is using. The right hand is 100% protected. It doesn’t extend to anywhere else on his body, but that’s why he’s able to catch the sword (plus his own strength).
@oblivion1398 4 ай бұрын
If u read the manga you would know one of the advantages of the armour was -prevents damage to hand
@dajtoad1 4 ай бұрын
@@oblivion1398 that’s exactly what I just said. Why are you repeating it back to me?
@ahmaudmuirhead4686 4 ай бұрын
@@dajtoad1 wait I'm pretty sure it said it it the anime as well, they just didn't show it in the video
@temporal_paradox 4 ай бұрын
@@ahmaudmuirhead4686I'm pretty sure both gauntlets just said 1% damage reduction in the anime, for some reason.
@simonservsuck6711 4 ай бұрын
Jinwoo: Can you catch these hand though? Igris: *→ ↓ ↘* + A, *→ ↓ ↘* + A, *→ ↓ ↘* + A
@aregularv1ncefan394 4 ай бұрын
Bros a spammer
@yannisdekonoha 4 ай бұрын
Bros a Mishima
@Nightwalk444 4 ай бұрын
DORYAH DORYAH DORYAH
@elevate07 4 ай бұрын
Igris is not gonna sugarcoat it
@YUGGARG-zq5dn 4 ай бұрын
The next episode name is enough to get everyone excited We all are Ready to ARISE! 🔥🔥
@Sir-Bane 4 ай бұрын
Next weeks episode is massively anticipated! You'll finally see the start of what Jin will become. PS - Leaks have posted revealing Cour 2 will be later this year!!! :)
@sinister9936 4 ай бұрын
yes and reader i want to see this
@geronimowirth4477 4 ай бұрын
@@sinister9936I want to hear it! I hope the magic word will give us all the hardest goosebumps possible.
@itsgojoverfr 4 ай бұрын
@@geronimowirth4477 it needs to sound cold af
@demonslayer1242 4 ай бұрын
i am waiting for the ice elves
@tbhgodrick6120 4 ай бұрын
@@itsgojoverfrthe word they will likely use in the Japanese will be “Okiru”
@SoyzSZN4338 4 ай бұрын
This episode was animated by the guy that did yuji vs choso in jjk btw
@oz9220 4 ай бұрын
There were a bunch of animators who animated that fight. which one are talking about specifically? Is it Hironori Tanaka by any chance. Also where did you get this information btw?
@Fallen_Core 4 ай бұрын
Nah bro Tetsuya Takeuchi wasn't present for this episode. He is called for cour 2. Episode 4 and 7 which had the best animation until now had only 3 main animators. This episode had 8 main animators of solo leveling that's why there is so much difference in quality.
@LMIRL 4 ай бұрын
@@Fallen_CoreCour 2 is going to be fucking insane, cant believe its going to get better
@sajindahal790 4 ай бұрын
@oz9220 He's talking about tetsuya takeuchi. People apparently know him as the yuji vs choso guy even though his work in that episode wasn't anything special by his standards. He wasn't even involved in this episode, it's just misinformation as always. He was announced to be involved in solo leveling, so it will probably be next episode or in court 2.
@divi406 4 ай бұрын
Nah it was done by SAO team + A non action SB kekucki 😆😆 Bro produced one of the best fight on his action debut
@TheRaideros 4 ай бұрын
Jinwoo's main power right now is being unpredictable and using tricks, like when he utilized his inventory. Igris was just a better fighter.
@manishmohite2393 4 ай бұрын
No. Jinwoos main power is stabbing eyes 😂
@liladonn5646 4 ай бұрын
@@manishmohite2393it’s honestly realistic considering the situations he had been in and plus Igris was caught off guard by taking the dagger out his eye and jin woo instant summoning it again he has never seen something like that before but naturally Igris had 90% of his power sealed at this point of the story so Igris was for sure a national threat and honestly the 2nd toughest match jin woo has ever fought even given the circumstances
@clover9725 4 ай бұрын
the left side of his head isnt the weak spot he just aimed for the eyes like he did with all other enemies, wich was also the only part of his armor that had an hole
@CarlieAndAnge 4 ай бұрын
Yeah we realised this in the discussion! Jinwoo got some accuracy
@Itachi-no5xf 4 ай бұрын
That was literally the only way to defeat Igris atm!
@mechalith2791 4 ай бұрын
@@CarlieAndAnge he gets him in the eye initially, and the follow-up final stab that kills Igris is actually going up under the chin, his helmet and gorget (the neck bit) aren't connected together, that's why the kick to the head/neck rang Igris' bell like that. It's a bit clearer in the manhwa, and so is the fact that the gauntlet Jinwoo is wearing negates 100% of damage to his hands, which is why he's able to catch the sword without harm.
@manishmohite2393 4 ай бұрын
I am sorry sir. I shouldn't have landed that kick on your neck 😂😂😂
@Murata___ 4 ай бұрын
😂 The apology was definitely not accepted ☠️
@manishmohite2393 4 ай бұрын
@@Murata___ proceeds with rated R combo. Totally voilated 🤣
@Murata___ 4 ай бұрын
@@manishmohite2393 lol peak 🤧😂🔥
@Arjun-kz1ji 4 ай бұрын
Itachi: look into my eyes and its over Jinwoo: Can i stab it pls🥺👉👈 Also the clock showing midnight was a genius move by A 1
@iamshadow5340 4 ай бұрын
I totally missed it! Is it maybe because of that? if you know you know
@mechalith2791 4 ай бұрын
@@iamshadow5340they did a really good job of making sure to foreshadow the way he's getting out of this situation, I just wish it'd *shown* the gear perk that makes his hands invulnerable because it makes the sword catch seem like an asspull by comparison.
@Akshay_PJO 4 ай бұрын
The simple act of putting down the broadsword and the daggers. SUCH a power move 💀
@siddharthgaur2205 4 ай бұрын
Igris throwing his weapon was like when we entered the second phase of Boss battle it was so cool
@brokenamvs9707 4 ай бұрын
From cockroach/lobster ro being called cold/cute . Igris sure has came a long way 😂
@VillainessAO 4 ай бұрын
7:50 Carlie got a point 😂😂
@sweetpea8155 4 ай бұрын
7:50 "you think Igris is kinda cute? a little bit?" YES! he's a gentleman, obv. great at fighting, and out of 🤐🤐🤐 he's the smartest, he's effortlessly cute and funny too
@JeanLoupGarou 4 ай бұрын
Igris is clearly one of my highlights of the manhwa ; such a cool character !! Also, can’t wait to see your reaction to the end of the job-change quest
@zdravkogeorgiev323 4 ай бұрын
Wanna say something on what Ange said about the difficulty of animating a character moving so intensely while the "camera" moves as well. I am currently an animation cinema student and i have a bit of experience on animating the basics and i know that not everything is sketched and animated on the same layer. Jin-woo is definitely animated on a different layer than the background which means that one layer doesnt affect the other during sketching and animation. That doesnt mean it's an easy thing to do still but it surely is worth mentioning
@randomwannab118 4 ай бұрын
"I think he's a little bit cute." Yeah Igris is adorable. Probably my favorite boss. The whole chivalrous thing. Throwing down weapons to be fair. The loyalty. The defending the throne. The respect. The holding back and not going all out in the fight for the sake of having fun. Very cute. Igris is definitely best girl.. Even though he's a guy.
@Deadooooo 4 ай бұрын
My boy look jinwoo throw his weapon and proceeded to give him a nastiest combo ever.
@ScuttleSage 4 ай бұрын
This episode really reminds me of Mob Phycho 100 because of the animation of the gate opening and the sketch fight of Jin Woo vs Igris love it.❤
@imsoapy9013 4 ай бұрын
The wait for you guys to upload this was BRUTAL!!
@TheSomaBlack 3 ай бұрын
I love how Ange dodge the arrows too 😂
@erencanaslan7989 4 ай бұрын
The "sketch animation" is called "impact frames" in animation terms. And yeah, they are sick!
@JigsRobles- 4 ай бұрын
igris sitting in the throne in the intro thinking. im being too arrogant sitting on the throne im just gonna stand beside it 🤣
@user-vb1tj6ww2e 4 ай бұрын
peak fiction 🔥 This episode went crazy.. Jinwoo and Igris fight was amazing and the best!!
@Knives7777 4 ай бұрын
Some context the reason he was able to stop the sword with his hand was because the armor gauntlet for his right hand has an ability that negates damage to that hand, they don’t show it in the anime but they do in the manwha and the final blow was from him continuously using fatal strike which kept boosting his damage over and over again
@abelmulato8991 4 ай бұрын
Good lord I must need new glasses cause I did not see that beat down coming😂 Igris was smacking him around like a ping pong ball
@sammydray5919 4 ай бұрын
Man Igris went full Tekken combo on Jin Woo lmao. They did this fight JUSTICE 😊
@darknesswave100 4 ай бұрын
The thing that popped up when the 2nd part of the quest started said survive as long as possible and his reward would be more points he could spend after the job/class change happens. So if he say survives 20 minutes for example then he'd get 10 points to spend
@bboyblock3030 4 ай бұрын
Before i start this my prediction is Ange will love this episode if not for the anime but the music 😂
@00.sid.00 4 ай бұрын
igris gave the vibe of someone who would be an ally later on
@48ranson 4 ай бұрын
oh if you only knew
@Airfay15 4 ай бұрын
@@48ranson *spoiler for non manwha reader* shhhh, let him ARISE with us hehehe
@48ranson 4 ай бұрын
@Airfay15 if you expect anything less in the comments of reaction videos you're terribly mistaken
@Airfay15 4 ай бұрын
@@48ranson I didn't ask you to put one, I put a spoiler warning cause I wanted to, if you don't want to that's fine, you're not even spoiling anything So it's all good mate
@Itachi-no5xf 4 ай бұрын
Just wait for a bit!😂
@supernovavoidking6169 4 ай бұрын
It’s gonna start kicking off now so get ready for the next season
@MUNGKING17 4 ай бұрын
Yeaah from now on the main story begins 🔥
@kidscorpion1967 4 ай бұрын
Igris was literately juggling jin woo
@Itachi-no5xf 4 ай бұрын
FINALLY THE LOYAL KNIGHT COMMANDER BLOODRED IGRIS!❤
@turbulentmind2044 4 ай бұрын
Igris Pulled out those Shadow Fight Combos on Jinwoo
@1KingKarim 4 ай бұрын
I love how Carlie is so concerned about the empty thrown 😂
@mr.whocares8787 4 ай бұрын
when jinwoo hit that spinning kick igris was like "so you want to play it like that huh? guess i didnt make myself clear enough."
@NightSterling 4 ай бұрын
Y'all understand why the community love Igris
@MrAquadude101 8 күн бұрын
duuuude i fkn love the cover of the intro song!!!
@trix-mas8598 4 ай бұрын
that guitar opening is sick
@ldh3233 4 ай бұрын
This is 'Legend'
@SON_GOKU_006 4 ай бұрын
Igris have gone broly mode🤣
@jasonarendse943 4 ай бұрын
Igris is built different, bro was standing on business
@voidgaming9911 4 ай бұрын
That sketch part was jus mental
@ZakuZuko 4 ай бұрын
now eveyone knows why we love IGRIS so much.
@user-kk1jx3im3c 4 ай бұрын
This show really keeps me on the edge of my seat every ep. Like the main character already died once, I feel like a second time isn't to far from impossible💀. Love it.
@lapisstories 4 ай бұрын
The episode was pure fire
@chicopatata33 4 ай бұрын
that Leo meme edit out of nowhere made me chuckle
@yannisdekonoha 4 ай бұрын
The way Jin lost his teleportations stones each time is like the system telling him "It's better for you if you don't run away from these fights and trust us"
@Sensei.shonuff 3 ай бұрын
When he opened that door to fight igris it gave anxiety Igris,!.. causes anxiety
@danny34574 4 ай бұрын
Fun fact: The author of the Manwha has been making more chapters lately, and he actually made a chapter showing the Jinwoo vs Igris fight through Igris's perspective instead of Jinwoo's. Highly recommend reading it if you liked this fight, but please wait a bit to avoid spoilers
@Lsw_1 4 ай бұрын
This might be one of the nastiest combos I've ever seen done to an MC
@KingSlink 4 ай бұрын
You're both right about Igris.. Ma boy is both cute and cool af! Also can't wait for next week's "Arise" :)
@muhammaduzairbhatti8831 4 ай бұрын
don’t forget, he forgot to do the daily quest
@jayelit 4 ай бұрын
That cliffhanger was needed!!! yall are not prepared!!!!!
@mentholnewport 4 ай бұрын
14:40 Igris the Bloodred Magpie
@user-os7cn1xn4i 4 ай бұрын
Im really happy that our boy Igris successfully charm you guys. Cause he sure eats and left no crumbs
@ClusterDSA 4 ай бұрын
Basically Igris got caught by surprise twice. First he thought Jinwoo was done and he was going to deliver the finisher when Jinwoo caught the sword and stabbed him in the eye. Also they didn't show it but the gauntlet Jinwoo had on that hand had a effect that his hand couldn't take damage which is how he could catch the sword. Then Igris was caught off guard again when he didn't expect Jinwoos dagger to return to him and he used Fatal Strike many times to punch into his neck. If he hadn't been surprised he would have been enough faster and more skilled to dodge it which is why Jinwoo was lucky.
@wildanahmad3493 4 ай бұрын
jin woo sitting on the throne actually a sign that he is going to be igris master,, and btw fortunately jinwoo not doing daily task that actually will save him in this change job quest :)
@Disguised_Bear 4 ай бұрын
I can't wait for Jin Woo to say the thing.
@Itachi-no5xf 4 ай бұрын
The iconic "ARISE"!❤️
@Jonniradh03 4 ай бұрын
Vaya paliza le dio Igris a Jin, brutal el episodio, Saludos desde RD
@IIMKRAZYYYY 4 ай бұрын
when the pencil sketch came up my jaw dropped
@beembess 4 ай бұрын
7:19 “i don’t know who im going for” was so real 😭
@lionheart-182 4 ай бұрын
Igris is just connecting combos like a street fighter character
@zeta4886 4 ай бұрын
Oh boys cant wait next reaction will be a mind blowing ep🤯
@maxdon2001 4 ай бұрын
Great reaction!
@keodantes3907 4 ай бұрын
Lol Carlie being adorable about Igris. I don't think anyone knows when the 2nd cour is coming. I think it'll be told after the finale. Since most animes tend to do that then.
@peteBULL18 4 ай бұрын
The episode has been hyped and it’ll continue to "Arise" 😜
@benjamindas0440 4 ай бұрын
W for IGRIS ....the coolest enemy ever ! Next level Badass !
@matteocristiano2356 4 ай бұрын
Igris is probably an A rank monster (stronger even than cerberus), so yeah, Jinwoo was lucky. Or I'd say he manages to beat stronger opponents with wise use of his skills.
@CrimsoNAnimE01 4 ай бұрын
Ange is enjoying to see him beat up 😂
@IgrisTempest 4 ай бұрын
The neck wasnt igris weak spot, he just got angry at that time and he stabbed his eye at first not the neck before continuously stabbing him in the throat
@heiayi2455 3 ай бұрын
That's right Charlie, Igris is so cute😌 Sorry I couldn't help it guys
@blitz.v280 4 ай бұрын
Guys next episode name is "ARISE". Remember it!!
@Sleepinwhite95 4 ай бұрын
Igris is indeed very cute ♡
@Nukerunin 4 ай бұрын
It's going to be funny when everyone goes back to moments like this fight after the story is near its end. You'll see things so differently in retrospect.
@tonypeparoni1235 4 ай бұрын
I was expecting all the different colors of Igris to come out of the portals at first
@lostsoultof 4 ай бұрын
Igris is my fave character, along with the best wifeu you'll meet soon ❤
@AnimeCritical 4 ай бұрын
He is not a character. Just a shadow. You can compare it to a drone or robot.
@ghostslayer4134 4 ай бұрын
@@AnimeCriticalIgris has a personality so he is a character.
@user-ed6zy4ou8r 4 ай бұрын
@@AnimeCriticalWhat are you on about? Every shadow soldiers has their own ego
@lostsoultof 4 ай бұрын
@@ghostslayer4134 💯
@AnimeCritical 4 ай бұрын
@@user-ed6zy4ou8r So does AI
@geoscope3399 4 ай бұрын
My only gripe with the anime is that every time he thinks about using the teleportation stone, in the manhua he chooses not to use it, in the anime some monster hits it away from him taking his choice away which I think is just less interesting
@hablahei1 4 ай бұрын
I feel this episode really cemented A1-pictures for me as a studio who can make extraordinary animation
@FadeSao 4 ай бұрын
Igris can be cute and cool. That’s best boy right there.
@chicopatata33 4 ай бұрын
this was only suposed to be lvl 8 calliber of fights in the entire show, if they keep giving this much love during boss fights in the future then my life can happily end along with it
@Yogis03 4 ай бұрын
IGRIS MID AIR COMBO WAS HIDEOUS DAWGG😭😭😭💀💀💀
@careenekaesterlitha5811 4 ай бұрын
That skill will come in the next eps, the most favorite skill for solo leveling readers🤩
@lycan6552 4 ай бұрын
Oh Ange you're right for calling Igris cute 😂
@mr.whocares8787 4 ай бұрын
"but whos gonna protect the empty throne?" it aint empty tho. and the one who sits on it can handle it.
@thelittlebleep 4 ай бұрын
10:30 🤔🤭 great question carlie 😆
@Sensei.shonuff 3 ай бұрын
This is the best anime ive seen in a long long time
@calebstephan2083 4 ай бұрын
Just to put into perspective how much igris was holding back. Even at the end of the next arc after jinwoo levels up a bunch he still says he is weaker than igris 😂. Theres also a reason igris was holding back. For people who want spoilers scroll below. Igris was ordered by the king who sits in that throne to test jinwoo and to not kill him. That king is the reason jinwoo has his powers.
@mateusz0037 4 ай бұрын
I'm about to move to a new flat, and I really like the posters behind you. Can you tell me if they were bought somewhere or if you made them yourself?
@CarlieAndAnge 4 ай бұрын
We bought the posters from JB-Hi Fi and the frames from IKEA 😊
@mateusz0037 4 ай бұрын
@@CarlieAndAnge That was quick. Thanks a lot! :)
@Kalolui94 4 ай бұрын
we all said the same when the ep ended xD
@nischaldhital1232 4 ай бұрын
I kinda miss igris ngl, he was so chivalrous and trying to fight fair it made him more suave
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