The ultimate dream match-up. Monzon vs Hagler!

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@@josephknecht4272 Buddy MCGirt said Monzon would systematically beat Golovkin. One of the best boxing trainers today. Also Hagler would beat Golovkin. Golovkin has no boxing abilities , relies too much on his one punch power. That's why McGirt said Monzon would beat Golovkin because of his boxing ability and his long jab. Systematically!!

Golovkin in his prime beats Monzon, Hagler, and Hopkins in their prime.

@@josephknecht4272 canelo beat Golovkin. Canelo is known with no boxing abilities.

También peleó en Argentina y el madison de N york, las 3 peleas perdidas fueron en sus comienzos y les ganó en la revancha a todos.12 de sus 15 peleas por el título fueron fuera de su país. No elegía rivales

Thank you! Yeah, I try to do a mix of past and current fighters.

Agreed

Who was a better technical boxer?

Tough one I think probably Monzon

@@brianmorley7165 Monzon focused more on head shots. Hagler was a well rounded boxer.

Ray Leonard handled Hagler , like it or not he did- I don’t see Leonard lasting the distance with Monzon - When Monzon retired as the undisputed middleweight champion of the world he was 35 years old-

the nicotine helps lol, look at Locche from back in the day...

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​@@hereiam-qc3fiI always thought Monson was the latin american version of Bruce Lee. They look alike a lot hahaha.

@@gastonlanteri1147 lmaooo I also think they same they have same hair and also same style of clothes 🤣

@@gastonlanteri1147 and same power of the punch

Lovely way to put it!

He might be the greatest boxer ever. I just don't see anyone touching him. Including Robinson, Hagler, GGG and GREB.

Great fighter, horrible human.

Fought bums and lost to bums

A great champion for sure. I still think Hagler beats him. Hagler was shorter but had a 75 inch reach vs. Monzon who had a 76 inch reach. Hagler was too skilled, too athletic, too well conditioned and had a granite chin. The fact he was a switch hitter would also have created issues for Monzon. 1. Hagler 2. Robinson and 3. Monzon.

@@TheBoxingRealm so you're saying Emil Griffith and Nino Benuvuti are bums? Are you serious?

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Not greater than Sergio

@@Misteraccountable Much greater than Sergio

@ that's insane

Dont compare legend Sal to Monzon

and his hair 🤣🤣

Sanchez had much better footwork.

You don't need footwork if you are good, Arguello had two left feet but didn't lose in the defences of his three crowns.

Sanchez was a lot more flashy.

Boxing only evolves canelo would put him out cmon

@@almightyzee3339 boxing doesn't evolve lol. Why go from 15 rounds to 12 also why not fight as often as these guys did. If anything it has devolved

Idk about knocking out GGG but he would for sure beat him convincingly

​@@almightyzee3339Monzón también evolucionaría, canelo no es rival para Carlos Monzón...el que sepa de boxeo en serio te lo va a decir.... Monzón retiró boxeadores porque los destruyó físicamente y psicológicamente..

Hope you enjoyed Tyler!

One thing has nothing to do with the other. Stop being dramatic.

@@AllGoodThings607 For a self-proclaimed Gen X, you sound whinier than a Gen Z.

That was 10 years earlier against Benny kid Peret.

@@CC-ff7ft You don't have to be a big puncher to kill a man in the ring. Many 'soft' punchers unfortunately have fatalities on their record. It also doesn't say anything about their ability to take a punch. Ezzard Charles killed a man in the ring who had previously killed another man. Ezzard Charles was a counterpuncher. Griffith was not known as an especially hard puncher.

@@AllGoodThings607 I know what you mean,I was just pointing out that Griffiths wasn't the man he was 10years earlier and he's In with a beast in Moonson who could take a heavy punch.

Thank you for the feedback Raj! Means a lot! 👊

A lot of draws in South America had to do with the rowdy crowds.if you fought a local hero you had to knock him out to win.a local hero loses a close decision and there could be violence.

Much appreciated! More to come!

Thank you! Much appreciated!

My pleasure! Glad you could take something from it!

@@BoxingLife yeah definitely it's because of you thanks again 👏👏

Se dicen muchas estupideces,amigo...

They were both greats, neither faced bums

Who did he fight of note? A past his prime Emile Griffith; an undersized Napoles and a bunch of tomato cans like Tonna, Licata and Bouttier.

@@cedricliggins7528 Ok you win.

@@cedricliggins7528 Carlos the best

@@cedricliggins7528 Wait so according to you Monzon isn’t even top-5?

​@@cedricliggins7528 how bout nino benvenuti

You're welcome!

Bennie Briscoe was a legend in my book and often over-looked. Great points.

Gran peleador Briscoe!Muy parecido a Hagler.Pero Monzon fue demasiado para él...

Monzon pegaba en larga distancia,en media distancia,pegaba cuando avanzaba,pegaba cuando retrocedía,pegaba con ambas manos MUY FUERTE,todo el tiempo.Una verdadera tortura...

I think he went 81 fights undefeated after his first loss I believe. The guy was a beast!

I agree

​@BoxingLife Después de su tercera y última derrota.Se retiro sin perder los últimos 13 años de su carrera,no 11 como dicen equivocadamente Su última derrota fue en 1964.Las 3 derrotas fueron cuando recién comenzaba,no tenía técnica casi,y sufría las secuelas del raquitismo

*he fought the best middleweights in his era for sure.

@@pitbull8625 He sure did. He ducked none of the top middleweights of his era. He beat them all and Valdez would have stood up to the 80’s middleweights no problem.

He didn’t fight the best ? What the fuck.

He fought cabdrivers and lost to cabdrivers

@@fsrsaa Valdez became middleweight champion when Monzon retired, undisputed no less. He fought some of best fighters of 70s! Look Valdez is ranked as 27 greatest middleweight RJjr is ranked 17. Jyst to give you froth, perception to quality. Valdez was welterweight champion when he moved up to middleweight. Monzon beat him twice. Monzon ended his career on a 11 year undefeated streak 81-0 over that time period and retired as champion. Funny thing about fighting Monzon you were never same fighter afterwards. He literally drain you with his work rate. My two favorite fighters of 80s were Monzon and Salvatore Sanchez who despite his brief career had a more filled resume than any featherweight not named sandy saddler who is greatest feather of all time. Simply by dominating the willow 3/4 fights. I have Sanchez in second spot. He defeated by ko Wilfredo Gomez Azumah Nelson and lil red 2x that Nelson fight would be Nelson’s only loss in next decade. His resume may be brief but filled with so much quality. Duran ein fighter of 70scedging Monzon only Duran lost in 70s Monzon never tasted defeat in 70s like Sanchez Monzon early losses were when he was learning to fight after he became skilled he avenged those three losses. Two of them came when he was recovering from mono which was just a shell of himself in those fights who ever gave him permission to step in ring should have been barred from sport. For those of us who actually seen these fighters fight in Monzon final year he had a open contract only liccata and Valdez were willing to get in ring. Tony liccatta was sn upcoming fighter who really was a good fighter he never recovered after fighting Carlos. He literally was a soul stealer inside the ropes. He simply wear you down. And hammer you in the deep waters of rounds 13-15 just like another brilliant range fighter Salvatore sanchez. These were two of greatest fifteen round technicians sport ever seen. My all time midglecwright rankings 1. Harry greb 2. Carlos Monzon 3. Ray Robinson 4. Dick tiger 5. Marvin hagler 6. Gene Tunney if you have to ask who Tunney is don’t comment on boxing he was man who defeated Jack Dempsey was a great middleweight lt heavy weight and heavy wright who only suffered one loss in his long and distinguished career he should ranked much higher but this is for middleweight rankings only. Ifcyoure wondering why kreb this was Nan Robinson beat gor greatest boxer in history only kreb was was better middleweight. Snd st 163 lbs kreb fought a lot bigger guys once even had a heavywright fight he was out weighed in a lot of fights by 30lbs. The Pittsburgh windmill was the standard every fighter was measured including Robinson. If this was welterweight it be Robinson in a runway Robinson went 99-1 at welterweight. But middleweight rankings are a different animal only Monzon retired as champion in boxings long history of middleweights Monzon never lost title and was undefeated as champion. He was simply the best middleweight. Although I have kreb ranked 1 kreb fought more and defeated hall of famers than any boxer in history of the sport. But I’d take Carlos style Bivol reminds me how how he fight at range but Carlos was sneaky shifty with boxing iq actuslly using the ropes as a weapon to pivot in one direction at last moment as he clock you with the hammer (his straight right) repeatedly always set up by the left jab he had a subtle way of resting the jab on your person Turing you in a particular direction just to meet that fight. He was just a brilliant tactician in the ring. No one could win a decision off him because he plasters that left jab at you all fight long. He famously once said effectiveness with less volumn today it’s called efficiency in accurate punches. Pretty sure his words were lost in translation. another famous quote other great champions lost thier title in ring I never lost as champion going into retirement in 1977 as champion. Even as he was becoming more mortal in 1977 Carlos was still handful for anyone else. He beat a prime venue Brisco as did Valdez Hagler struggled against a faded Brisco a fading Duran and actually lost to Leonard who doesn’t even appear in middleweight rankings. Simply put you need fight at middleweight to earn ranking points at weight class. A great fight would have been between Valdez and Leonard two outstanding welterweight champions! Only Valdez was undisputed in both weight classes.

Very!

That's true!

Amigo,Monzon fue el 1 absoluto de los medianos,no sabes nada.Solo Ray Sugar Robinson le hubiera traído problemas...

LoL Benn and Eubank weren't in the same class as Hagler and Hearns....

He was undefeated for last 11 years 66-77 and was on a 81 fight undefeated streak when Monzon retired.

Esta subestimado entre los que no saben realmente de boxeo.La revista The Ring lo pone delante de todos esos,incluso delante de Rocky Marciano...

Estuvo invicto los últimos 11 años de su carrera,no 7.Y es superior a todos los que nombraste.No pareces saber mucho de box...

@@Bb-pw1zi Breh what

@@Bb-pw1zi Mate Monzon literally killed his wife, and yet this video exists. What are you seething about?

Great honest assessment! I believe that is correct.

Monzon fought bums. Lost to bums. No comparison

@@TheBoxingRealm Ma che dici matto

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Hagler uno de los mejores sin duda, veo en su estilo a Briscoe, Monzón le ganó al mejor Briscoe, Hagler perdió con un Briscoe ya viejo....

EMILE Griffith

Monzon is Native American

He is native American

I think it’s legal to punch your opponent in the ear.

Monzon takes decision with that jab in your face entire fight. But top middleweight was krebs 2 Monzon 3 Robinson 4 Hagler/ Tunney/, tiger it’s so close. Middleweight deepest divison and tiger has wins over some all time greats. An oft forgotten nsme who one of all time middleweights. My top two are krebs and Monzon. Krebs was first fighter to fight anyone anywhere regardless of color. No champion previously did this . Cost him against tiger he would avenge thatvin another fight he fought all his fights at middleweight whether it fighting for light heavyweights or heavy weights being out twigged by more than sixty pounds on many occasions what makes him special is his mantra anyone anywhere anytime. The Pittsburgh windmill as my uncles said other than Robinson at welterweight finiest fighter he ever seen. I felt that way about Monzon. Simply a larger version of alexis arguello but with more stamina like a Sanchez. He was middleweight champion when I was a teenager Hagler could have had a fight but he kept stumbling with a kiss and draw just as Monzon announced his retirement in 1977. He wasn’t the hagler of the 80s we knew he was still an impatient fighter than and a technical boxer would give him fits even if they were inferior fighters. He really upped his game after that antefermo draw he became much more focused. As Monzon said his favorite fighter to watch. We all progress at our own pace . What was amazing about Monzon he finished on a 11 year undefeated streak 1966-77. 81 fights. To close his career. Never forget his words we all find our pace. You know when to walk away agsinst Valdez he knew it was time. Wasn’t as quick as he normally was he knew it at end of fight announced it was his last. Wish more would walk away like this. His favorite line I’m not a muiltiple chsmpion to be a muiltple champion you have to lose your title. He is only middleweight to retire as champion. And his 7 year consecutive non interrupted reign is longest.

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No bebas amigo...

hagler is not the first the best is monzon and greb

@@cesarferreira2564 No... Hagler, Monzon, then Greb

@@sammyboy2987 hagler sucks and his a ped cheater monzon is number 1 and after him greb

@@cesarferreira2564 Your opinion is your opinion and mine is mine. Respectfully I think your argument is bullshit, but it is what it is

@@sammyboy2987 i think you know nothing about boxing and your argument is shit

haha

He defended his title 14 times in a row, a world record at that time.

@@gedaom, And 9 of them were undisputed. A record that still stands today as the most *undisputed* middleweight title defenses.

Without a doubt for both!

Haha I know who you would pick Billy 😉

@@BoxingLife great breakdown like always and I never knew he had that many fights before getting title shot even more than Hagler that’s why your so great Jamie knowledge and entertainment at same time 🥊life

@@billystone8204 Much appreciated Billy! I know crazy to think how many fights before he got his chance!

Its not like Hagler was a speed demon, lol. I mean, Hagler could certainly beat Monzon, but speed wouldn't be a factor.

Jajajaaaaaaaaa!!!Todos los que perdieron con Monzon dijeron lo mismo Valdez era más rápido que Hagler!Y Monzon ya viejo le gano dos veces No sabes nada,ves demasiadas peleas por tv...

Lol hn u reaching hes not beating hagler easily especially not triple easily

I think the fight with Hagler would’ve been fascinating clash of styles. Hard to pick between the two!

He suffered against Briscoe and Valdes , I don’t think he can beat Hagler or Robinson

@@BoxingLife Yes, Hagler would pose very tricky challenge for him with his southpaw stance (I am not sure if Monzon ever fought a southpaw), power in his hands and his incredible chin. Like I said, I think that Monzon would win by decision in very close fight.

Roy Jones Jr. beats them all

Disagree with James Toney and Mcclellan. I can see James Toney beating Carlos Monzon if they fight at Light Heavyweight but Monzon beats Toney at Middleweight. Mcclellan's opposition is worse than even Monzon's. Monzon has never faced anyone bigger than himself like Mcclellan plus Mcclellan is incredibly powerful but there's a huge gap in overall skill and IQ in Monzon's favor here.

No way to know

I agree... also John Magabi would of beat him!

tommy hearn imo wouldve had no chance against monzon.

Monzon would beat all of them.