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Carnage - Deleting The Brake Booster On Our V8 Lexcen
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Күн бұрынThe brake booster has been all kinds of trouble on our V8 Lexcen project so we decided to delete it altogether with this master cylinder kit from Castlemaine Rod Shop.
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@paulmassey6228 Жыл бұрын
At least you put out more episodes than the binky lot! Thanks Scotty!
@DaveHiggoHiggins Жыл бұрын
"Begin slowly using full strokes, then a combination of short and long strokes" Scotty.... a missed opportunity. I'm not mad, just disappointed.
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
I know right. When I reviewed the video I was like "OMG! how did I miss that!"
@young11984 Жыл бұрын
Always seems like i make the most perfect flares while the nut is laying on the bench laughing at me😂
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Truth
@John-ok6sq Жыл бұрын
Anyone who has ever made a brake line has done that at least once.
@castekracing Жыл бұрын
I love watching these build vids. Doing some amazing work mate, jealous of your skills and knowledge
@davidc2902 Жыл бұрын
Look into changing the pivot point on the pedal so you fix the pedal ratio which will improve the pedal feel greatly. Non boosted pedal ratio should be closer to 6:1 where as boosted pedals can be about 3:1
@dazaspc Жыл бұрын
Indeed The pedal should also be higher with more travel to give the same swept volume of fluid capability. The reason is if you ever loose a line or have a hose leak you can still get some braking even though the pedal is very low. The idea is enough fluid flow in a single push to give 50% of the volume of the plumbing to the caliper plus the full working volume of the caliper cylinders. If you don't you should have an automatic cut off valve in the system to prevent completely draining all the fluid before the brakes stop working. These are often integral with the master cylinder but sometimes not. The ratio does need to be increased but usually 4.5~5.5 to 1 is enough as the pedal can get quite high.
@sugarb6613 Жыл бұрын
You really are a jack of all trades, Scotty. I can’t be the only one that watches your videos and thinks how much I’d love to drop my project off to you to take care of all the frustrating little jobs.
@LRogan520 Жыл бұрын
I've had mine for 2 years you've just motivated me to do the brake pipes..
@someyoungguy6990 Жыл бұрын
Can we get a big CHEERS MATE for Matt! For keeping Scotty safe from the tangled mess of zip ties and reworked wiring we all love to hate oh so much. The young fella needs at least a two drink a week raise!! Hey, who else was waiting for the dad joke after the chat on "pumping it up with a combo of short then short and long strokes".....?
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity
@someyoungguy6990 Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV Haha, funny but you are still on report for dropping the ball mate! Now I want you to think about what you have done over a few cans and have a good weekend!!!
@thepieguy4522 Жыл бұрын
Remote booster wouldve been a smarter choice financially
@Devastator0 Жыл бұрын
Another good video Scotty! Yes, sucks that you couldn't keep a boosted brake solution but you gotta do what you gotta do eh? Still, very excited to see how the Lexcen will turn out! Keep up the great work mate!
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
It's starting to look really good. Check out my Scottys_Grarage instagram
@Devastator0 Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV hahaha I already do follow you over there mate! Seeing it in video form just hits different haha
@wobblysauce Жыл бұрын
And some change the brake pedal in the car to have a bit more leverage.
@jrbuch Жыл бұрын
Mate it's always the small jobs that take the longest. I had to fit some new gauges to my boat the other day. Even a standard replacement Yamaha Speedo gauge wouldn't fit due to the pressure sensor hitting the mounting bracket. So then the bracket has to be modified. This build is coming along great. I see your Instagram & comment on the posts. It's looking schmick now.
@zeropaloobatheuber1572 Жыл бұрын
Worth mentioning for the young fellas - drum brakes have servo assistance so booster not so necessary.
@anomamos9095 Жыл бұрын
Tip. Brakes are often made by one or two companies for all the vehicles made in the country. This means that parts of a Ford will often fit a gm or Chrysler. So if something doesn’t fit your mod look at what’s available from other brands.
@zeropaloobatheuber1572 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got an AU Falcon reservoir on my commodore master cylinder 😉👍 Needed it cos I’ve got a VX master cylinder on my VS.
@bradcross2 Жыл бұрын
i love watching these build vids you are so talented and
@MoSSdoGGz Жыл бұрын
Told you 😉 good to see the build coming together mate.
@peterschmidtchen8560 Жыл бұрын
Hey Scotty, have ya had a look at Hydro boost? It runs off ya power steering pump and replaces the brake booster. I'm researching them for my Impala that has a lumpy cam.
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
I hadn't heard of them until recently but will look into them for future builds
@urdead2meboy Жыл бұрын
love the project binki mention there one my favs along with your chan !
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've watched every episode
@PeterDrewSEO Жыл бұрын
My first car was an EJ Holden. No Booster and drum front brakes :)
@Doc_in_the_carpet_truck Жыл бұрын
Top work Scotty the weapon is taking shape !!👍🍻
@351tgv Жыл бұрын
lol please let the next project be a TE Cortina PLEASE ... oh the joys of a 250ci i6 cross flow with 2V carby ... memories of a youth well spent ... whoa that was a head spin :)
@gregivey183 Жыл бұрын
Hey Scotty Check out StealthSS in Warrawong NSW..in car under dash booster kit (ford)/pedal box... Good luck on the build,mate
@steveknopka7673 Жыл бұрын
You could make it vacuum assured by installing a VH440 remote booster like the old Holdens and valiants had. Is an easy fit!
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Easy fit where? there's no space with turbo and piping
@jamesbaylis9438 Жыл бұрын
No Scotty video is complete without some shifer action.❤❤
@The_Performance_Laboratory Жыл бұрын
I was almost expecting the engine to not fit again at the end... Hope you're finally past this hurdle.
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
It all fits now. Looks great too with the pipework and everything
@young11984 Жыл бұрын
Simple solution to the harder brake pedal, put some brake pads thats more aggressive in grip then it takes up for the lack of a booster. I use hawk hps for small light cars and dtc60 for heavier vehicles
@jimclarke1108 Жыл бұрын
Brake booster problem , good idea Scotty )))
@jonling5173 Жыл бұрын
I’ve done a booster delete kit in my torana , the pedal is surprisingly good thought it would be rock hard but apparently it’s all to do with the bore size of the master
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Good to know
@ifyouknowpaint3646 Жыл бұрын
TGIF!! Thanks for the great vid, keep up the hard work 😊
@Bozza_1 Жыл бұрын
A possible intake manifold solution for you is a really nice looking sheet metal manifold made by a company called Clumatetune. I’ve seen them make good power on some 1UZ powered drift cars.
@michkolm1537 Жыл бұрын
Remote mount booster under dash fits ezy next to string colum
@jonathancarson6032 Жыл бұрын
Hay mate if the manual brakes are not great marks 4x4 do a hydrolic assist break booster that run off your power steering pump if your running power steering.
@michaelb5330 Жыл бұрын
Scotty got to ask why not a remote booster? Cheers
@davidwindsor4632 Жыл бұрын
O another brakect. 😂 Binkiy I think is sitting idle. 😮 Good to your breaks sorted. 👍
@LV-FOURTWENTYSIX Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to do a remote booster setup if need be? She is coming along well. I dont have a project at the moment so living my car mod jollies through this channel 👍
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
If it doesn't stop we'll look at remote booster options, but right now I just want the car up and running
@sipposbft Жыл бұрын
I did tell you this 1st up no?? Yr welcome Scotty 🤣
@351tgv Жыл бұрын
Lucky that this Lexcen did not have ABS. Also aas others have mentioned most likely a PBR booster from a Falcon would of worked especially from EB onwards as Ford had the same issues when they re-inserted the Mustang 5.0L HO V8 and had to convert it from LHD to RHD. of course not 100% sure but I do know that Ford had those issues at that time.
@golfr600 Жыл бұрын
Rod shop need to change the blown Torana sticker to the Ferrari engine now lol
@FuManchu5ltr Жыл бұрын
Why not add a dual diaphragm remote brake booster? Then it can be mounted out of the way, maybe behind the guard? Adds onto the set up you have. Would make things comfie as when braking.
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
There's not a lot of room anywhere in this car. We'll see how we go with this set-up.
@stephenstergiou1145 Жыл бұрын
@STREETMACHINETV Scotty did you adjust the proportion valve. How did you adjust the proportion valve
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
@@stephenstergiou1145 not yet
@stephenstergiou1145 Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV do a video on proportion valves pls
@steveb9270 Жыл бұрын
Hay, did you have a look around for a remote booster? I had the same problem years ago, and found a booster that could be mounted anywhere. Worked a treat to .
@phredflypogger4425 Жыл бұрын
Great job but could you not have used an inline booster?
@wesgates5632 Жыл бұрын
Great kit, be nice if they had one with a line lock.
@3800TURBO Жыл бұрын
Interested to see the engine fit back in there..
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
It fits fine, look at my instagram
@3800TURBO Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV sweet. Was thinking it would be close.
@plumbs7199 Жыл бұрын
Awesome skills mate . On another note , being a Gasfitter, I can’t help noticing the open ended natural gas ball valve. Just being turned off and not being plugged . Might want to get a licensed pro to make that safe ? Not really legal atm. FYI anyway! 👍
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@ChristopherHallett Жыл бұрын
It's probably disconnected at the gas meter on the building exterior.
@dazaspc Жыл бұрын
Just a heads up you know you can get hand held double flaring tools and they are a bit more work but are only $80 or so. Much easier in compact spaces.
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Never had much success with them, but I must admit that usually I've tried the cheap ones
@dazaspc Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV The cheap double flare tools are not good but there are pro versions I would highly recommend. The one I was thinking about was from Proflow.
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
@@dazaspc I'll check it out
@tony66au Жыл бұрын
Non boosted brakes are fine :-) You just have to allow for more reaction time with 4 wheel jam tins (Drum brakes) and make sure proportioning and adjustment is good, Disc/drum combo's can be tricky but again if the system is looked after they are fiiiine. The Willwood with the proportioning valve especially near the 1 inch bore will be a nice pedal with a bit of adjustment, Used one on a VG Sedan with a disc conversion and once dialled in with softed Disc pads she was better than a good OE boosted setup even chucking her around the Mt Dandy tourist road back in the day.
@Low760 Жыл бұрын
Which was fine before ADR rules on minimum stopping distances. Dr Tim did some good articles explaining this stuff a few years ago in Australian street rodder. Pedal effort has to match a certain amount of force out with the booster and master cylinder. Going to a smalller bore size (vs was 1.25" by then?) Should compensate.
@Beer_Dad1975 Жыл бұрын
I remember my first experience with un-assisted brakes - a 1975 Triumph Spitfire - scared the hell out of me as I pushed harder and harder and still nothing seemed to be happening...
@tony66au Жыл бұрын
@@Low760 Disc/drum combo with solid fronts and 7/8th bore and the proportioning setup worked quiet well, I did re-line the entire car both hard and soft lines which made a big difference and applied that knowledge to a mates VB Commodore later on and both carss tested better than OE on the decelerometer. Worth mentioning that the Willwood master also has a slightly longer stroke and all in all was a great modern package considering I bought it all from the Summit catalogue (Before Online was a thing :-) The Val was quiet a light car too so front rear bias took some fiddling for wet weather but as id gone right through the entire system inc slave cyls on the drums etc it produced fantastic results. :-)
@tony66au Жыл бұрын
@@Beer_Dad1975 BWahahahaha Pommy brake systems, Dont get me started on Girling................ Fkn Rovers :-)
@brushitoff503 Жыл бұрын
Love it Scotty! By chance @08:36 did you happen to install those block of bolts on the wrong side?
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Umm, no, because the hardware for the proportioning valve only works one way
@PaddyBoy644 Жыл бұрын
Great job on the detail work Scotty, this things going to be awesome! Cheers Pat
@paulreynolds1510 Жыл бұрын
Would there be any space for a remote servo now you’ve gone to the survey delete kit?
@robokiss7822 Жыл бұрын
Why not use a inline booster you can put the thing any were in the engine bay you can probably put it in the boot if you had to if you have good vacuum
@neilperry2224 Жыл бұрын
Damn, still no ‘that’s what she said’ scottieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
@outandaboutinoz Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, just wondering why you did not use a hydro booster?
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Because I hadn't even heard of them before last week
@outandaboutinoz Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV new to me as well, they are a great option for improving the brakes on a 70 series landcruiser. You go from 1000 psi to 2000psi, so you have to run braided lines as well. Cheers.
@davidbarnsley8486 Жыл бұрын
Everybody love project binky 😂😂😂
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
I love Project Binky as well
@ChristopherHallett Жыл бұрын
Don't chuck those rags in the bin, Scotty! There's no better feeling on a hot Summer day than wiping the sweat off your face with a rag contaminated with brake fluid! Blasting yourself in the face with the garden hose for ten minutes really cools you down!
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Haha
@rustinpeacegarage Жыл бұрын
Scotty not sure if it what you were after i think that prop valve bracket is for lhd mine mount on the on the other side (gaurd side) just letting you know there is an option
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I know about that but it clears the engine (just) and the lines are all done now, so I'll stick with this
@rustinpeacegarage Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV theyre a good set up about to do valiant number 3 now , great looking set up and work well , i think theres a vid on my channel on the ap6
@slmiano Жыл бұрын
Scotty, would a pneumatic brake bleeder be no good? I bought one years ago and its one of the best investments ever..
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they're handy, but I don't have one in the workshop
@DarrenBoxhall Жыл бұрын
I commented on you're last vid about hydo booster that runs off the power steering pump. Did you look into that?
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
We already had done this. We're about two weeks ahead of the videos
@DarrenBoxhall Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV ahh yep of course. At least people have let you know it exists for future builds now.
@brittenv1000 Жыл бұрын
Dont you want to put the bias valve on the other side to get more room? Or cant it fit there
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Requires different brackets and lines. It does fit with the engine - just!
@nathanielbarbeau4821 Жыл бұрын
Question: If the coil packs did not fit then why not go with LS coil packs remotely mounted and use spark plug wires?
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Good question, I just think they would be untidy. I want this engine bay to look its absolute best.
@nathanielbarbeau4821 Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV okay I figured it was an appearance thing. Like you said though…you grew up on manual brakes, so you know what to expect. I never did, so I would’ve tried to keep the brake booster. That WILWOOD sure looks good though!
@jgrieve3282 Жыл бұрын
It's Castlemaine Rod Shop, there's no R in Castlemaine just ask the locals lol
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Haha, yeah well. The locals are weird :)
@castekracing Жыл бұрын
It isn't carstlemaine? Haha
@chefcamsey1375 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@stoneshrink Жыл бұрын
where can one find a Matt Minion? they seem useful.
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Very handy
@markjones7045 Жыл бұрын
Old future scotty has a lot of work cut out for him
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Sure does
@gogetem188 Жыл бұрын
HI ALL Moral of the story use the orange one's Scottie lol
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Yep
@dannygjorgjioski751 Жыл бұрын
Will turbo taxi ever return?😁😁
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Yep, when temperatures improve. Too cold to tune LPG at the moment
@Keirrin79 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to support the master to stop the fire wall breaking out? The skid factory covered this on the vl build
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
I'll check it out
@rustinpeacegarage Жыл бұрын
Its fitted to the original mount area
@ScottyBSim Жыл бұрын
Slowly but surely mate.
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Big progess next video, it's all coming together now.
@351tgv Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV - mate I just want to hear that Toyota v8 in a Toyota wagon ... drive it past Toyota HQ in Melbourne once its all done.
@paulcoote3094 Жыл бұрын
At 21min insert "that's what she said"
@warwickpowell3371 Жыл бұрын
Hi do you have room for a remote booster .old school used on 1960's rally cars .
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
There's not a lot of room for anything
@nathanhone1738 Жыл бұрын
How come u couldnt go a ls style coils n some leads then u could of kept the booster
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Because it would have looked shit :)
@nathanhone1738 Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV fair call haha
@crackdbrain34 Жыл бұрын
Friday is always made better when I turn on the TV and see Scottys mug in a new video 😂
@crunchytheclown9694 Жыл бұрын
woohoo
@Blanchy10 Жыл бұрын
Will the non boosted system be legal?
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Meh, who knows
@GlitchBob Жыл бұрын
Just curious how much was the brake kit cost?
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Check out the CRS website
@GlitchBob Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV no worries mate will do 👍
@garrylawless6758 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be street legal no dual circuit boosted on all my builds
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
It is dual curcuit
@stevenkirk2563 Жыл бұрын
Willwood now you have an unroadworthy car lol.
@GODEES77 Жыл бұрын
Is this an ABS car? Just thinking about if it’s an ABS car how are you going to get an engineer’s certificate? I probably have it arse about
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Not ABS
@GODEES77 Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV see I called it, I got it arse about hahaha
@Ricks408 Жыл бұрын
What about a 1uz Lexcen screams "Street machine"... like cmon man... Wheres the torrie you picked up?!
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
A turbo V8 Sleeper is core "Street Machine", always has been
@matthewcampbell7318 Жыл бұрын
Y didn't u just relocate the booster
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
Have you ever relocated a booster? It's sooooo painful
@shaunhinton3691 Жыл бұрын
Do yourself a favour and make up some 270* tubes out of copper tubes 👍
@Billskins4dayz Жыл бұрын
😂 I didnt say anything did I
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
I don't know, did you?
@Billskins4dayz Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV nothing at all big fella
@gemini3558 Жыл бұрын
😜👍🇦🇺
@Low760 Жыл бұрын
So this master cylinder is signed off by an engineer for this age car? I guess being a smaller bore the answer is yes but still. Will you be going to vt front brakes? Or even ve?
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
You guys are obsessed with "engineers" :) I think I've only had one car engineered in my life. Plenty of my mates have engineers certificates and they still get defected.
@Low760 Жыл бұрын
@@STREETMACHINETV sorry, I mean crs, I know they get parts/kits engineer inspected and they come with certificates. Not if a turbo 1uz V8 commodore will have an engineer's certificate.
@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын
@@Low760 fair enough
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