Carnivore MD Now ADMITS The Carnivore Diet Wrecked His Health

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2 ай бұрын

The “Carnivore MD” (Paul Saladino) who wrote the Carnivore Code is now saying that this strict carnivore diet is probably not healthy for most humans in the long term.
In a podcast interview with More Plates More Dates, he openly talks about how a strict carnivore diet actually had many negative impacts on his health, which is why he no longer calls himself the 'Carnivore MD' and also eats more fruit, maple syrup and raw dairy,
For a long time, myself, and many other people have voiced our concerns when it comes to carnivore proponents.
Just like every other diet, you will ALWAYS find a small subset of people who turn that diet into a cult-like following and suddenly pretend it is the best thing in the world.
Apparently, this carnivore diet was the “SECRET” to “UNLOCKING OPTIMAL HEALTH”, but just 4 years later it is now “probably not healthy for most humans”. This also means that he had been eating the carnivore diet for just two years before writing about it in the Carnivore Code. Tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of people bought a carnivore book based on his own experience of less than two years.
I honestly love people admitting mistakes publicly. I think it’s very important to be able to do so.
But, I think it’s also ok to point out that it is a bit worrying when someone flip flops so massively on what they were previously saying.
Before carnivore proponents get their feathers ruffled, I DO NOT CARE what diet plan you want to follow.
If you feel better eating a certain way, awesome. All the power to you.
But we should all agree that people promoting heavily biased information is not a net positive to help other people learn.
All I have ever asked for is for people to talk about the pros and cons of different diets honestly.
That shouldn’t be a lot to ask?
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@ZanderKaneUK 2 ай бұрын

I sold my soul to the devil and then realised I needed my soul.

@blackrhinotattoos 2 ай бұрын

Him switching his view and sharing it is the most unbiased thing he could have done. Also, your forgetting to mention the only thing he has added to his animal foods is fruit and honey which are the lowest plant foods on the plant defense chemical spectrum. I respect his change, better that strongly convincing himself that all of those problems noticed were not a problem.

@henrylopez7721 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, this guy hearing what he wants is childish

@julienfroidevaux1143 2 ай бұрын

He was cornered into the carnivore corner , regrifted himself into the " meat based md "

@donkingdonkey4764 2 ай бұрын

He’s still super carnivore with honey raw dairy and fruit

@BenCarpenter 2 ай бұрын

I mean, fruit and maple syrup are objectively not carnivore lol

@donkingdonkey4764 2 ай бұрын

@@BenCarpentertrue! He definitely changed it up.

@carrvdam8540 2 ай бұрын

He’s animal based… and healthy asf so what’s the problem

@donkingdonkey4764 2 ай бұрын

@@carrvdam8540his apoB is 134. Which is 30% higher than “high”

@PlusUltraVitality 2 ай бұрын

@carrvdam8540 he does not look healthy, genuinely. Yes he is lean and has muscles, but he does not look healthy. Every time he shares the results from his blood bio markers they are very, very bad.

@lyingdogfacedponysoldier5746 2 ай бұрын

Its like humans are omnivores or something

@ActiveArron 2 ай бұрын

Pretty certain he knew all this years ago but kept lying for one reason 💰

@BenCarpenter 2 ай бұрын

One thing I wonder. I don’t follow him publicly (a lot of people send me his posts asking if what he is saying is true lol) but did he ever post about this himself? Did he ever talk about the dangers of the carnivore diet to his own followers, and why being too restrictive can cause issues? Or did he just softly talk about it on a podcast and change his message to include more other foods (fruits, maple syrup, dairy) and save face with his own followers who may have been strict carnivore? 🤷‍♂️

@otarala 2 ай бұрын

@@BenCarpenter A cynic might say this is about right timing wise given stories about others experiencing bad effects are likely to be growing. Like did he write the book 10 days after he started or something?

@charkvaror2112 2 ай бұрын

Seems we've reached a point where having some common sense and knowledge about what to eat has become pretty rare.

@mrmiyagi6742 2 ай бұрын

Why are people scared of potatoes these days

@amandanightstar8012 2 сағат бұрын

It contains carbs and carbs make some people sick it is what it is

@hughjass1835 2 ай бұрын

Carnivore diet absolutely changed my life in every way for the better!

@oscarcat1231 2 ай бұрын

Not in the long term though

@carlvanmeerbeek7327 2 ай бұрын

@@oscarcat1231So getting better short term isn't a good thing? You prefer staying unhealthy? My health has improved drastically, blood work looks perfect and lost some weight as well which wasn't the reason I started this. No downsides

@know-ledge1707 2 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure that he meant the diet isn't good long term. Heal your things and then get to a more balanced diet. I don't think the diet itself is healing anything. Any diet that reduces down to one food or a few nutritious foods from one group and cuts out all processed foods and crap foods and keeps your insulin low will give your body a chance to heal itself. It doesn't mean that sticking strictly to that one food for the rest of your life won't cause problems down the line. Too much of anything is bad for you

@Xx-xt4hy 28 күн бұрын

@@carlvanmeerbeek7327 Or just find a balanced diet that's good long and short term???? 😱

@andrew6889-p5c 2 ай бұрын

Wait…The carnivore guy is named SALADino?

@johnnyhotrod 2 ай бұрын

Everyone’s body is different.This diet has done wonders for people.Is it a lifelong way of life?No,I don’t think so. You have to find what makes you feel better and improves your blood results.

@rixrix7732 Ай бұрын

It seems the best diet would be avoiding anything come in packets or branded. Having food in moderation. Also adjust according to ur body...For instance if u r lactose or gluten intolerant adjust your diet. Btw, I'm into carnivore for the past 3 weeks for candida, joint pains and chronic sinusitis. I thought candida might starve and eliminated because of lack of carb but no sign of them dyingg. May be they have also started carnivore😀. No more Sinusitis headaches and dripping. Tennis elbow pain has gone. Now there is only a light pain while doing bicep curl(10kg). Mcl pain is completely gone. I might just do one more week and stop. Its not sustainable.

@Hat65 Ай бұрын

I have NEVER met anyone who could sustain a restrictive diet. Not once.

@newkingofengland 2 ай бұрын

Paul's problem is that he exercises too much. He surfs for several hours a day in addition to working out. That was the cause of his problems.

@b1gpoppa 2 ай бұрын

if you think that’s too much exercise you are not a fit person

@newkingofengland 2 ай бұрын

@@b1gpoppa High intensity exercise is irrelevant to being a fit person. The body burns almost entirely carbs that point, defeating the purpose of doing so to burn fat. If you're fat, it's because of what you eat. In Paul's case, his lifestyle was directly incompatible with a low-carb diet.

@b1gpoppa 2 ай бұрын

@@newkingofengland obese coping 😆😆

@zamfirtoth6441 2 ай бұрын

Marathoners are among the least healthy looking people. They actually look like they're in misery. Constantly torture yourself.

@johnr8095 2 ай бұрын

he was eating tons of liver, every day. That's why his health suffered.

@mountainmanwatchreviews8081 2 ай бұрын

The mug 😂

@dls64 2 ай бұрын

His mugs are the best

@Dansby_lifts 6 күн бұрын

Carnivore compared to animal-based are two extremely similar diets this is not a big deal at all

@jenniferharris3989 2 ай бұрын

We all need to go surfing for 3 hours a day also.

@onlinemarketerpro 2 ай бұрын

He ate too much liver

@comsensical 2 ай бұрын

This ain’t it dawg, Paul is the man

@maxx_life 2 ай бұрын

Well since I have ever been watching him he has been eating fruit along with meats

@TD-ug4mg 2 ай бұрын

Because the Adkins diet wasn't already a thing

@violetd3487 2 ай бұрын

Carnivore isn't for people who work out for more than 15 minutes everyday. It's not recommended especially if you're a fitness trainer.

@mfling4446 2 ай бұрын

damn he realised that he could do even better than carnivore because it had some problems. what an idiot.... how can you hate on a guy for this?? seems like some people want to hate.

@BenCarpenter 2 ай бұрын

Where exactly is the hate? I said he promoted a carnivore diet and claimed it was optimal for health and he got it wrong. What’s the hate?

@Sebazzzbiggestfan 2 ай бұрын

I’ve only known him for his animal based diet

@TrojansFirst 2 ай бұрын

He did it for the money.

@Dragonmoon8526 2 ай бұрын

While accountability is appreciated, and we all make mistakes. Like you said, the damage he's potentially done to some people. But, arguably, those same people would have latched on to something else. So . . .🤷‍♂️

@439801RS 2 ай бұрын

That's very much a conmans excuse: someone's gonna get em, might just as well be me 🤷‍♂️

@kevinathans4191 2 ай бұрын

Um yeah, I learned better with my first college nutrition course...This isnt hard stuff...

@EtienneLeBoeuf 2 ай бұрын

I went from 334 to 960 in around 3 months. This book should be essential reading for all men because it says exactly this about this diet. Everything must be balanced out. What Paul said only proves this. Complete guide to testosterone by james Francis

@deefee701 2 ай бұрын

Then 3 comments come up right next to each other - carnivore without fruit is best. Vegan is best. Intermittent fasting is best. 😮

@BenCarpenter 2 ай бұрын

Haha, yep. You get exactly the same comments with so many diets, just the actual diet itself switched out. Most people in the cults don’t realise that’s how it goes 👀😂

@vigilantezack 2 ай бұрын

Just because he changed his mind personally, doesn't mean somehow the thousands of people this diet helped are somehow false or didn't happen. We've watched years of testimonies of the diet fixing all sorts of problems in people. All I can really say is that if it's not sustainable, those people who lived this way for a time will some day hit these symptoms (or others) and it will be time to transition some more food into their diet safely.

@BenCarpenter 2 ай бұрын

Many people report positive results on the carnivore diet. Unfortunately many also report negative results, but these aren’t shouted from the rooftop by carnivore proponents as much. I know someone who went into carnivore groups on forums and social media pages just to see the results that people were talking about and was surprised by how many people were worried that they had noticed negative effects. If it was communicated as “this is very restrictive. I personally like it but be careful of X, Y and Z” I don’t think many people would take an issue with it. Instead it was sold as a secret way to unlock optimal health. 🙃😂

@439801RS 2 ай бұрын

The only people I ever hear say it helped them started months or at most a year before This guy is saying 2 years into he started noticing adverse effects

@vigilantezack 2 ай бұрын

@@BenCarpenter I think your comment applies to every diet though. There is no diet where you can't find people complaining it didn't work for them. If we had a diet where all humans who used it reported that it fixed their issues and they lost weight, then we wouldn't have so many diets available to choose in the first place because we could all use it. So whether it's carnivore or keto or low carb or mediterranean or vegetarian or vegan or pescatarian or OMAD or IF or IIFYM, or extreme calorie reduction or every other day fasting or fat loss pills, fat absorbers, etc etc. Somebody somewhere is complaining how it hurt them. What is the perfect human diet? We still don't seem to know, since whatever people come up with still seems to hurt somebody somewhere.

@BenCarpenter 2 ай бұрын

@@vigilantezackyes, I agree. And if anyone else sells one specific diet as “the secrets to unlocking optimal health” I would tell them that they are being too short sighted as well. In this instance, doing such a rapid flip flop so shortly after launching a book is an example of why people get too excited when they anecdotally notice good results. Good results won’t always last forever and won’t always apply to everyone else so we should be cautious when recommending one diet to all. 🙂

@Spobbles69420 2 ай бұрын

@@BenCarpenteryou mean like veganism has been practically forced on us and hailed as optimal health by every institution? It’s almost like carnivore is a rebellious middle finger

@curiousfurious5877 2 ай бұрын

Sugar Boy Saladino.

@davidjones-wr3pg 2 ай бұрын

He can get bent. Carnivore is absolutely great so far, about 5 months in. We'll see for long term, but I don't have to wonder that much. Look at Ken Berry, look at M. Peterson. They seem to be doing just fine.

@johngalt97 2 ай бұрын

There's a bigger market for influencers who pander to those who refuse to eliminate plants from their diets. Also, there are consequences from your body eliminating the toxins built up from decades and lifetimes of crappy foods (plants). The nuances of detoxification are as of yet unstudied, and vary widely amongst individuals.

@warrenkline7930 2 ай бұрын

He is still a carnivore proponent. Use diet as a tool to heal what’s wrong and then adjust as needed. He has added raw dairy, honey and fresh fruit to his diet. No veg, no seed oils, no processed foods, and no starches. The host of the channel is dishonest in his presentation at best.

@VRIceblast 2 ай бұрын

He probably wasn't eating enough fat, because he's a very active guy, and fat is your fuel, and because he doesn't have much fat on his body, he needs to feed on it more to have the fuel he needs to do everything he wants to do. People don't realize, when they go 0 carb, that if they don't eat enough fat, or have enough fat, they will run out of energy, and feel like crap. You aren't going to get very far running on fumes. People that hate Carnivore, love to see guys like this, so they can shout, SEE, SEE, I told you it was bs. smh

@darkfieldcarnivore3928 2 ай бұрын

You guys love word play. When it's all you have, I suppose.

@BenCarpenter 2 ай бұрын

What exactly is the word play? Quote what I said where I have used this “wordplay” you speak of

@darkfieldcarnivore3928 2 ай бұрын

@BenCarpenter He never said carnivore wrecked his health. He is still hypercarnivore by the very definition! He simply and correctly stated that long-term ketosis is not optimal. As carnivores, we should bump up insulin and naturally drop out of ketosis daily with a large single meal containing sufficient protein. Enough fat reserve and/or fat intake is also required for sufficient gluconeogenesis, or there is an energy and hormone crisis. Paul, as evidenced by his video catalogue, did not consume enough fat for his daily expenditure. Nuff said!

@BenCarpenter Ай бұрын

Eating fruit and maple syrup literally isn’t carnivore, but feel free to be the one accusing me of wordplay because I couldn’t list his symptoms word for word in a video title lol

@darkfieldcarnivore3928 Ай бұрын

@BenCarpenter Define hypercarnivore for us all? Or is it just more word play!

@BenCarpenter Ай бұрын

Man who popularises carnivore diet says it was bad for his health and man with carnivore diet in his username is sad. Predictable 10/10

@vso5189 2 ай бұрын

guy with no chin criticizing an animal based diet without understanding any of the context 😂😂😂

@BenCarpenter 2 ай бұрын

If that’s what you took from the video I fear your listening comprehension is very lackluster

@sadtiger2022 2 ай бұрын

Making fun of one's looks and what they're born with is far more judgmental and childish. Who's the fool here?! 🧐 Btw, there's nothing wrong with his face.

@BenCarpenter 2 ай бұрын

Haha, thank you. It’s funny that the person who actually criticised the carnivore diet is the Carnivore MD himself but this troll got so upset he had to comment on my chin 😬😂

@Hat65 Ай бұрын

Ben is living rent free in your head 😂

@charlesbeltington-smythe9229 2 ай бұрын

Still much healthier than a vegan diet, though.

@graham6659 2 ай бұрын

The carnivore diet got rid of his autoimmune issues and he got stoked carried away thinking it was the best diet. Then eventually he evolved his diet and added carbohydrates back and started absorbing some of Ray Peat’s work. Who are you to hate or judge, you sound pathetic

@BenCarpenter 2 ай бұрын

Where exactly did I hate? You sound unnecessarily upset

@Hat65 Ай бұрын

You’re crying lol

@Jennieadams1979 2 ай бұрын

Dont listen to this guy...carnivore is a miracle! This dude ate copious amounts of fruit, which isn't good for anyone

@BenCarpenter 2 ай бұрын

It’s not actually a miracle though, is it. Be real now

@deefee701 2 ай бұрын

@@BenCarpenterThat comment above came up with a YT bot asking if it was a good comment today. I think that means AI tried to incite a debate. 😢

@scottywade9662 2 ай бұрын

Is this a good or bad post about Paul. He’s honest and changed his mind. That’s good, right? Why u spreading hate fool? Honestly? , we don’t need hate right now. Please reconsider what you’re doing with your life

@BenCarpenter 2 ай бұрын

Why does it have to be GOOD or BAD? I said that it’s great he has openly changed his mind. I also said someone popularising a whole movement which can have severe health ramifications is also important to note. I would be shocked if anyone disagreed with either point.

@BenCarpenter 2 ай бұрын

P.S. it’s slightly ironic that your message contained more “hate” than my video, despite you claiming we don’t need hate right now 😂

@scottywade9662 2 ай бұрын

You’re right. I apologize. My comment is hateful. I got drunk and got don’t even remember this comment. ( not that that’s an excuse). I just really like Paul and felt like I needed to defend him. I think we can both agree that Paul is well intentioned