My thoughts: Kenyan/Chinese/British.....does not really matter, what matters is whether the car is reliable, can tackle the terrain, affordable running costs , good handling, comfort and safety features. The price tag may be beyond what most Kenyans can afford to spend but it seems fairly priced for a brand new SUV. Looking forward to a drive test review.

I see some guys came out gun blazing, but this goes to speak a lot on the nature of our Kenyan corporate environment. Lot's of misinformation, under information, undercutting etc. They are used to, "Kenyans tutawapelekea anything na wabuy." (Chinese); The vehicle might be decent in itself, but the company should do the consumers due diligence. Tusibebane. Nice Information guys.

This guy deserves a million subs. I've always looked for a sober car reviewer in Kenya, and we finally got one.

I beg to differ. 1. First of all Mobius was made with the mindset of having a Kenyan car made for kenyan conditions with these core functions in mind: A. Functionality B. Durability C. Serviceability D. Longevity E. Reliability If you look at the way mobius is made its height and the shocks are configured to that of Kenyan roads. Its basically an all terrain car. When we import used cars those cars are made to the conditions of roads from where they originated from. mind you kenyans use their cars for all manner of things, for carrying goods and people and in some cases on rough roads when going to shaggs, these activities put alot of wear and tear on the car. In foreign countries their cars are made to carry fewer passengers mainly two or for a family of four and less heavy goods and considering they have better roads most tarmack roads even in the country side ( their shaggs) . 2. Is the car worth 3.9m. What you could have done is compare the cost of a used imported SUV to that of a new mobius. Assuming the costs are the same, i would definatley say the cost of a mobius is worth it. Why? First of all durability. If mobius is made for Kenyan roads conditions and usage , then that means it has a longer shelf life than that of an imported car for reasons i have explained above. secondly, when you buy a used car the life of the car is shorter because you are getting a used car which has already gone through its best years notably the first five years of a car, from then on , frequent breakage, parts change and servicing and maintainance is required. This is an extra cost to the end user.. These cars have an average 100,000 miles already logged in, while a new mobius car, you are buying a car with zero or almost zero mileage and you get to experience its best years moving forward. 3. parts and services. Now this is one of the most important aspects to consider when buying a car. Mobius is made with the idea that if it brakes down anywhere in the country, the parts are easily available from any shop or even jua kali mechanic in any part of Kenya. Now if i have a foreign used car and my car breaks down what is the guarantee that i will get the part the same day, or from any part of the country. How many dealerships can you find of foreign made cars sprawled around the country. I will have to go to the volkswagen dealership in nairobi just to get the part or the part may not be available and they have to import it meaning adding extra costs to my pocket and time wasted waiting for the part weeks or months. But for mobius all i have to do is go to the next jua kali shop in any town and either get the part or get the car fixed because the car was made with serviceability anywhere in the country in mind .In the long term the mobius becomes more economical in parts and services. Go for it Kenyans. Build Kenya. 4. Kenyan made (assembly). As long as the car is assembled in Kenya it has a kenyan aspect to it. It was put together using Kenyan manpower, kenyan hands assembled the car it is mdae in Kenya, unless the car was made in china and shipped into Kenya. We have had a history of assembling cars in Kenya be it isuzu, simba etc but they are considered kenyan made because they were assembled in Kenya. Boeing aircraft of America is actually considered an assembler of planes because they import most of their parts from overseas and they are then put together (assembled) at the boeing plant in seattle. But its considered American made. Therefore , As long as the car is assembled in Kenya, i consider that Kenyan made. Just like we import cotton from tanzania and uganda take it to the textile mills in Kenya to turn it into clothes. Do we then say the clothes are not Kenyan made because we got the raw materials from TZ and UG. 5. For us to feel its a car that's truly Kenyan, the most important aspect to me are the sourcing of parts or raw materials. Take 100% of the car. What percentage of the car is made using kenyan parts made in kenya. Like the tyres, shocks, windhshilelds, springs, steel, iron, aluminium, seats, leather basically the parts that go into making the car. if we can then start specific industries making all these parts and accessories then "made In Kenya" will take its true meaning. Mobius has its goal of sourcing at least 80% of the parts and raw materials sourced from Kenya . But currently we do not have those industries but a few like springs and shocks . so we should support them, after all making a car is very complex and capital intensive and it has its risks. It also requires the skills sets in mass to go into mass production but also one has to have the facilities to produce enmass which requires huge investment in capital. So kudos to joel for having come up with the idea and concept where no local kenyan or foreign investor would dare. But joel has shown the road map and as we continue on this path we gain experience, skills transfer, save on foreign exchange as we import less cars, create local jobs in manufacturing/assembling, the gains are much much more. After all look at the first car Henry ford built and look at where ford is today? So is the price worth it? Absolutely, you have to look at the greater or bigger picture. Is the car Kenyan Made? Absolutely it was assembled in Kenya using Kenyan labor. we have to start from somewhere. As long as the car meets the core criterias of : Functionality, Durability, Serviceability ,Longevity, Reliability and assembled in Kenya with a price point similar to an imported used car, all other aspects like where the company was incoporated, or a photo copy of a chinese car is irrelevant. Give me a mobius 3 any day than a used imported car. Infact i like mobius one the so called ugly car for reasons i have posted below. read my post.

The 4th question really sums up this video, "tunabebwa ufala ama?"

Just to conclude, the fact that there are many posts interrogating the car from its origin, assembly, Kenyan made, rebadge etc is a healthy engagement and it shows the enthusiasm Kenyans have for cars and in the end am sure Mobius or any other car maker willing to set up car manufacturing in Kenya will look at this post and take issues raised into consideration. As we have just started to crawl before we can walk in this new field of car manufacturing.

I don't know but getting a 2021 zero mileage car,with 214hp from a 2.0L non turbo engine is impressive compared to 2021 honda crv with 190hp turbo engines,nissan xtrail 142hp which is massively underpowered for a 2.0L engine and when we talk of the imports we have in kenya they are 2010 to 2016 models with high milages being sold at ksh. 2.5 mil n above.Plus the car is made for african Terrain.so yeah keep on buying massively underpowered cars with high mileages for insane prices. I guess sometimes you get used to awful products for so long that when finally something good comes along you don't even realize it. The car is good compared to what we are being offered. N most car companies usually borrow technologies when they begin atleast to keep up with the market so i see no issue here.

We are still waiting for an indepth review of the Mobius 3, eagerly since last Friday on 10th... I enjoy your reviews and the good work you're doing.

Ik was eagerly waiting for your review cz it's always honest and evidence based. I con't have thought it was a re-badge, but my gut feeling was just right that something is wrong about the SUV. Cheers Buddy.

I saw this vehicle drive by somewhere in kiambu road and wow! It's a beautifully wonderful spectacle.

Great content. Love it. Allow me to say this though. Apple being manufactured in China doesn’t make the brand any less American. Some Landrovers are powered by Ford Engines. Nike is manufactured mostly outside of US but very American as a brand and product. Palm oil is imported to Kenya to make the “Local” cooking oil that you buy in supermarkets. Nobody questions them. Massive industries are built on Strategic partnerships that leverage on YEARS of RND value. It’s impossible to beat China’s manufacturing capacity overnight. It’s more of a business model discussion. At this stage of growth, development and distribution is the model. Manufacturing can be outsourced. Especially for Africa. The brand is Kenyan. Although I do agree that the narrative they’ve put out may be misleading. However we need to be a bit open minded. Cheers though. As always great content 👍🏽👍🏽

I can't believe that i am only finding out about this channel now. The orator is informative and articulate. Thanks.

Thank you for the juice, very informative, actually validating some concerns i had. I was wondering when you will take this up. I hope Mobius family can now give you the car you take it for a spin and share the reviews. Bet more juice :-). I wouldn't mind to know how it actually performs from an expert despite the ukalulu they have in marketing it. I applaud your honesty.

Personally, I think it is a good initiative and movement in the right direction. I have visited their assembly site and I know young mechanical engineers who have gotten employment as a result of these cars. Anyone who knows about industrial production will understand that rebadging is something that is very common. As time goes on and as their cars become more popular we will see them start producing more of their own productions and equipment. Plus find me any other zero mileage 2021 SUV in Kenya with a price tag of less than 5 million. If we decide to criticize, there is certainly alot to criticize about Mobius and if we decide to applaud there is also plenty. But I also understand you have to put food on the table, and that is why I have subscribed to your channel. Because it is about supporting each other and building one another as a country. Eager for your next video.

Thanks for the review, very informative. BUT: things are always not that black & white. Rebadging is common in the auto manufacturing industry. When Toyota did it (they recently rebadged a Maruti Suzuki into a Toyota Starlet/Glanza), they didn't hype it in their marketing either. It wasn't even in the fine print. Why? Because consumers get the wrong perception, they’ll think it's insincere. Same reason why Mobius hasn't mentioned it. The benefits of rebadging are it saves costs (to get you an affordable car), it reduces lead time (R&D is a long process) and it helps you start from somewhere. Here’s the real beauty: that car is the closest modern vehicle we have to a Made in Kenya car. If it was efficient to do complete manufacturing in Kenya I’m certain that they would. But the constraints of doing so are limiting; and they (Mobius) are starting from somewhere too.

Seriously how does a whole journalist skip such basic facts. Keep up the good work.

keep up the good work. I love your honest and in-depth car reviews.

I think the early versions of the mobius are very beautiful. As they say, on a matter of taste there is no disputing. It remains my ambition to own a mobius 2. I appreciate the info.

Importing parts and assembling in Nairobi doesn't deserve to be tagged 'Made in Kenya'. Moreover, the firm is incorporated elsewhere, n not in Kenya. One day we manufacture our own, but definitely not the Mobius. Their game has been busted!

You had me at "Kenyans are like African mothers, even when you confess your mistakes they'll still beat you up!" Please get a chance to get the car so we now get an upclose review of the look and feel of it. I am seriously considering one. Also kwa sunroof, clear the air.

Congratulations 👏 for the vital information you always update us,thank you

Very articulate Eric. You have done your homework well. Carnversations is taking us a level higher. keep it up!!

Thank you for been honest and not buying into the current trend of giving products great reviews for kickbacks. keep on with the transparency.

Would you please review the Lexus rx450h or maybe as a comparison to the 'new' Harrier. Thanks in advance and I appreciate your work, very original and authentic

Not only is it expensive to start a new car company independently, its next to impossible. Only a few like Tesla have managed to do that in the last 20yrs & it only made it because of government kickbacks, selling carbon credits to companies like FCA (now Stellantis) & selling tech/infrastructure like charging ports. There is no shame in badge engineering.

This is wonderful information. I'm still skeptical of this car. We can't even manufacture bicycles a vehicle could be an overreach... Anyway get the car and review it but after watching this I doubt if Mobius will allow you?

This was very candid!! Thank you!

Thanks for this. I always had the feeling we (🇰🇪) were being duped.

I had been waiting for a genuine review of this car. Keep it bro. Thank you

Sometime back i saw you test drive the toyota corolla cross and I've been seeing several on our roads. Any chance we can get a review on it?

Great coverage.... you just confirmed what I suspected. The vehicle is not made or assembled anywhere near Nairobi. A while ago I saw a convoy of the vehicles on Mombasa road near Athi river..I guess they where imported fully assembled

Well put together presentation once again. Good job Bazu!

Great, evidence-based and honest content. I like this. You deserve a million subscribers. Also, today you got it right pronouncing 'alluring'.

Can you recommend Audi A3 for a start up bachelor (1st car)

Great information. Eye opening. Thank you.

The only honest KZfaq channel, Asante for staying true. Keep safe!

I initially thought it's a jeep replica, the back end seems sort of Bronco kind of.

Definately I was waiting for this review. thanks

Thanks for the great info. Kenya is doing well. This is what is called "glocal" in business language. Global products contextualized to fit local markets. Most products that we buy in Kenya have components imported and mixed locally to fit targetted customers and branded as made in Kenya. This explains why a Cocacola in Kenya, UK, China and many other countries taste different although they all bear the same brand.

no wonder the comments on their youtube are locked

Nice video but I wanted to highlight something. The Mobius 3 is a right hand configuration though in the website it shows left hand and that is something they need to change in Thier website. Things on ground are different. It's a good car and I believe the price is high because of the cost of buying and assembling it in Kenya is quite high. But again I would like to ask, with 4.6million Kenyan shilling which SUV would you buy? A NEW mobius 3 with almost nil mileage or a USED European or Japan car that fits the same price and is as powerful?

In one video you crushed all my dreams, even after mobius three still wanted to own mobius 1 as soon as i could afford just to support our own, but this here is sacrilege. Nimekubali nilibebwa hadi mtito andei lakini nimeshuka. ntatembea si hata wangebadilisha rims. the only thing they changed is the grills

That was informative.....I also thought they are playing us with the rendering on their website. The Kenyan market is for right-hand drive car due to our left-hand traffic lanes

Kenya could have remained with Mobius 1 concept but keep on improving as time goes by this could create more jobs for fabricators.

Kindly consider doing something comprehensive on the Golf M7 1.4 TSI...

Been eagerly waiting for this!!

How can i buy this car Mobius 3 with 4 doors is there office in Mombasa?

Thanks for being so candid. I always suspected that something was amiss and you just confirmed my worst fears. It ain't worth it.

I actually thought it was made here, which made me extremely excited.. Kweli tunabebwa ufala.. But the car doesn't look bad at all, it gives me jeep vibes, though the pricing is a bit high. Thanks for the info👍🏽

Which engine is it running?

Where did you get your info from?

Nyayo pioneer 1 looked better than the first mobius

I think you should give us examples of brand new vehicles with mobius like specifics at a the same budget or cheaper. In the end, what we need is a reliable car in Kenyan terrain. Mobius has tried in assembling and creating jobs here in Kenya.

How much are other 2 litre engined cars brand new in the Kenyan market if we were to buy them so? Rav-4? CRV? Xtrail? Forester? Greatwall? If those cars are just 0.5m more than Mobius when bought brand new, then count mobius blown out of the water already.

It is assembled in Kenya and that is important for jobs and services!!

Hey man you really good at what you do... Kindly do another Toyota crown review... New model

this guy story telling skill is top tier. I subbed

kumbe iko ovareted like this,,,thanks for the info

Whatever the case, its providing employment in Kenya through assembly.

I love you man.....this is what we need as automobile enthusiasts.....honesty is the key to a good review....most KZfaq automobile creators give dishonest reviews because they are sponsored by various automobile companies ....thanks

Kindly eric wokabi please tell me more about Mercedes C200 because i want to acquire it

Am interested in Toyota Rush... What is your review?

Thanks for the information..very educative

Someone told me the Mobius 3 is underpowered am quite interested to know ju I was very interested in getting one it's better than getting a second hand import

When are you reviewing the first Möbius. Especially aspects around running it as a daily driver and resale value.

Very insightful. I will visit the clinic.

Not a bad take on the politics of Mobius III. I would have wanted a bit more about the technical details of this ''parts bin'' car. From what I picked from a guy I saw with one recently, it has pretty good transmission (ZF) and a solid TDI ( he mentioned VW). Since Kenya doesn't really have any meaningful history of manufacturing cars, this conversation should really be about if this car is reasonably priced, and whether it's actually reliable.

3.9m for a 214hp with 2.0L with zero mileage sounds like a good deal

Best car reviewer in a Kenya! Some times though in other reviews, you repeat yourself, otherwise with time you will only get better, but really good...just comparing you with top gear...hehe

keep enlighting us bro great content

Is the Mobius 1 still available?

Walai tumechezwa kila kitu mpaka interior ziko same na BAIC BJ40. Like seriously we should just say this is rebranding and the only thing that has been changed is the front grill, logo and name. CARNVERSATIONS you got my subscription for this, good job putting things into light.

How much is a brand new probox 0 millage?

Please do a honest review of Toyota fortuner. Keep up with your good work 👏 🙌 👍

Good work bro. Keep it up

great content...kindly review Mitsubishi and performance

Waiting for that Mazda Axela and Atenza review. Also the Honda Vezel. You promised to do one

Totally the wrong kind of marketing to gain customers! Honesty is key! thank for real talk

Eric : Mobius was incorporated in the UK. There's nothing Kenyan about it. Mobius : Tuliunda hiyo Gari na chuma ya doshi 😂😂

Truth be told, Mobius has only actually made fewer than 50 vehicles total. Version 1 was a test run of a tin can bolted to a Toyota chassis. Version 2 never actually came to market or left the prototype stage. Find anyone who has actually bought and is driving a Mobius 2. They don't exist. Now this sham of importing a Chinese car and calling it Kenyan as the "Mobius 3" is outright fraud. This company is a sham and will be out of business within a year.

Yes! I knew it was rebudging...waafrika ni waafrika Tu, tutadanganywa na tukubali. New intro🥳

Ngoja, part 3 ya peugeot na demio iko wapi?

How i wish they could have built on that second generation mobius. It had potential and I'm sure Kenyans would have been proud to own a good looking vehicle that's actually made in Kenya. This 3rd generation is just wrong. Maybe they should have sold it as the Baic. It would have sold in considerable numbers. I really hope no one one buys the so called Mobius 3.. Also 4 mil for that??????

I think manufacturing a car is very expensive. I genuinely think we really underestimate how much it costs. Thanks for this I didn't know mobius was a rebadged car. Though if I was mobius I'll still go with the narrative that it's a kenyan car to maximize sales. Is it ethical no, but the sales gives them enough time to build a genuine African car.

And who in this world builds cars 100% in-house? All the top car makers grew from someone else's stable. Positivity is the only way.

Do one for mahindra, especially the m-hawk engine

Thank you for this bro💯👍

Now look for the Mobius 3 and do a review. I am willing to spend 3.9M for a 0 mileage car

If I remember correctly, 4M kes buys you a Toyota Rush with zero mileage. Also, Mitsubishi has a brand new ASX for that price at Simba corp. Being Chinese, this thing is worth taking with a grain of salt. It looks the part, yes, but would you bet your money on an engine and tranny that is being manufactured in the CCP? Be very afraid. And again, this jeep & Jimny hybrid has no Kenyan terrain DNA whatsoever. It is just a pure marketing ploy. This vehicle should be marketed just like other brands, especially alongside Chinese vehicles like the Cherry Tiggos and such.

Man! Your show is great man and your reviews are on point. I remember Mobius 1 or 2 and it was ugly- meant to save the African farmer; no power steering, no air conditioning, no real windows and full or rivets- which is bad for safety. With this Chinese one, it is going to be a hard task trying to beat Japanese imports and at that price...most people with about 4million will opt to get that japanese SUV. Maybe as you continue to review...you can let us know about the full specs, safety ratings, drive ability on the road and offroad, sound insulation, fuel consumption etc. Overall keep doing this shows. They are unique to Kenya...you may be the next car wow guy for Africa :).

well researched article . May God bless you

Wow! That's enlightening 👏🏼

Are they making it in the factory or importing parts and assembling?

You burst some major bubbles with this video...

For me i think the version 3 looks attractive, luxurious and competitive in the market. Id prefer this one than a secondhand Jeep.

Thabk you Wokabi for the candid reviews. Locked here.🇰🇪☺️

Which brand new SUV can we get for 4M?

Hehe ati we continue chasing that dream. Na nlishindwa akiwa tuna import toothpick na earbuds MOBIUS tumetoa wapi

Umewaanika kweli, yaani wewe ni kama Teamaster wa mandae, great job 👏 👏

very candid in deed. Now do something about the Toyota Fortuner. It's quite hyped especially the new model.but am sure its a nice SUV.