Ulf made this beautiful bamboo rod for Anders and it seems that it works perfectly. Head over to www.bamboorods.se/ if you like to find out more about the rod maker.
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@sjoerdvanbaal33045 жыл бұрын
It would seems recommendations has brought us together yet again
@jardinesdelapatagonia47953 жыл бұрын
Saludos desde la patagonia argentina
@gingerman-nq1vt2 жыл бұрын
There are many anglers who are obsessed with their gear. And many of them end up liking the tools more than the fishing itself. But in this video, I can feel the pride of a person who loves not only fishing but also the river itself and the time spent in nature before that. That's what tools are for, right? Thanks for the great video. From a tenkara guy in Japan.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Really appreciate it :) :) Cheers from Sweden
@badman50072 жыл бұрын
Is there really anything wrong with that? Building rods and nerding out over gear are just as much a hobby to me as fishing
@gingerman-nq1vt2 жыл бұрын
@@badman5007 I have no intention of ridiculing someone's fishing style. I also know that tools bring more interest and joy to the world. But I arrived at "Tenkara", which was stripped of it as much as possible. That's it. May each other continue to have wonderful fishing days.
@norman52023 жыл бұрын
50 years ago my first job was to work for a fishing shop. One of the many skills that I was taught was to make cane fly rods. Not from scratch like this video but using cane supplied to the shop I and my colleagues made some beautiful rods. Thanks for the memories. I still use one of those rods along with new carbon rods. Cheers from lockdown and waiting for the season to commence again.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great story Norman & Dianne. Really appreciate it :) Cheers
@boesdi39083 жыл бұрын
Good job
@WesternPaFlyFisher7 жыл бұрын
One of the best fly fishing videos I've seen. Great depiction of the spirituality one can only feel knee deep in a trout stream. What a beautiful looking rod.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wm. Really appreciate your comment :) Cheers
@underwaterireland3 жыл бұрын
Master rod-maker and master film-maker. All what I could add is more rod action when he was playing the fish.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Really appreciate it :) Cheers
@vicg53233 жыл бұрын
An old Navy tug master used to make the most sought after flies in New England. It was a hobby for him. They were by no means cheap to buy but it took him a long time to make. I can not imagine how much time it took to make that rod but it sure looks special. Thanks for sharing.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Vic. And thanks for the story :) Cheers
@mcbdroid7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video, beautiful craftsmanship, beautiful waters, beautiful trout, and beautiful people. Once again, a video that will be watched over and over again. Well done, and thank you.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark. Really appreciate your comment :) Cheers
@duanehall43114 жыл бұрын
I never grow tired of watching videos like this, no matter what their making, when it's with love, passion, and old school craftmanship.....
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Duane. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@FishingBiodiversity5 жыл бұрын
One of the best fishing video I've ever seen.
@federicogravante11725 жыл бұрын
Mi hai mandato tu qua😁
@paulfisker4 жыл бұрын
What an orchestra in the bushes! I was waiting for him to get that catch! Amazing video!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pawel. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@benbiagioni99062 жыл бұрын
Genius. This is the the soul of the art of fly fishing filmed like a dream in 5 minutes.
@NYFIKENBRUN7 жыл бұрын
There is nothing quite like beautiful craftmanship, and what a fantastic fish. Thanks for the video, always appreciated.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Willy :) Ha de gott
@illuminousbrown3335 жыл бұрын
Beautiful rods and fantastic video...thanks for sharing!!! 😊
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@diceman20046 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video . I could watch this again and again .
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Diceman. Feel free to watch it as many times as you like :) Cheers
@jakkawallo65105 жыл бұрын
Once in awhile you find these kind of videos on KZfaq. This is pure gold. Thanks for the video!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Jakkawallo. Really appreciate it :) Cheers
@darrelashford31054 жыл бұрын
This was beautiful! Showing the craftsmanship and the work it take. Then showing where the work ended up and how much better it made someones life. 👏👏👏
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Darrel. Really appreciate it :) Cheers
@AppalachianManCave7 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I have been on this river. It was in a different country and was called by a different name but the magic was the same!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Good to hear there are more treasures like this out there :) Cheers
@maxjarno78146 жыл бұрын
Not interested in bamboo rods,but your film made me watch it and reflect about the proud craftmanship, regarding construction and building of the bamboo rod. By making someone like me that not is interested at all of a subject continue watching and enjoying the whole film has to mean something. Amazing film... superb work of art...
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
Really great comment Max. Appreciate it very much :) Cheers
@jamescockrum13656 жыл бұрын
This is truly one of my favorites. I enjoy the way you gather all the aspects of the art (fly fishing) and craftsmanship (the rod) drawing them together to create a spectacular short film. it is my most played.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
Good to hear James. Thanks :)
@archer72124 жыл бұрын
Still in the top five of my all time favorite videos. An awesome masterpiece that captures every aspect of why we fish :) Magnificent!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Archer. Really happy to hear you enjoy the video :) Cheers
@knechtyeee74014 жыл бұрын
Incredible work, cant imagine how somebody can dislike this!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@carlosalessandrini1174 жыл бұрын
Same stupid.
@rejamatin1015 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video, couldn't explain why this video made me so calm.. An epic rod-craft determination, so satisfy just by seeing this video :)
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Reja. Glad you anjoyed the video :) Cheers
@kimkorpilahti26167 жыл бұрын
Wonderful as usual! You catch details undescribeable to non-fishermen in an elegant way.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kim. Appreciate your comment :) Cheers
@daryllawrick9764 жыл бұрын
Oh my god! Your films are are works of fine art. They begin to capture the art of fly fishing that is known only to actual fly fishermen. Thank you from Montana!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad you like the videos :) Cheers
@Flyfishtherockies5 жыл бұрын
Lovely film, wonderful sport, beautiful fish...
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks William. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@paulhartmann64735 жыл бұрын
I saltwater fish, but those rods damnnn..... Georgous! Truly a work of art
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@Alaskaflyfishing4 жыл бұрын
This is perfection! Love when the line lifts of the water from the set! Beautiful 😍
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alexander. Really appreciate it :) Cheers
@dariobonaudi58744 жыл бұрын
Love watching master craftsmen create something that brings so much excitement and pleasure. Thanks for the video.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dario. Really appreciate it :) Cheers
@iusoloman15275 жыл бұрын
Awesome,.. the beginning. From making the rod to landing the fish.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@jeffgutierrez72085 жыл бұрын
This video is super relaxing, I just want to break out my fly rod. 👍
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@francoisnoir10x4 жыл бұрын
I keep comming back to this video. You captured the moment so great in this one!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Raynor :) Cheers
@TheSaikung4 жыл бұрын
Beautifully patient rod builder and angler....lovely video.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ralph. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@oni65743 жыл бұрын
So relaxing! I really enjoy this:)
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@sidyajv6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Such a pleasing video.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@humphlc47 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video , great to watch a craftsman at work! Nice to see the rod being worked on the river too , very relaxing!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steven. Good to hear you like the video :) Cheers
@63caster7 жыл бұрын
That was an out of the ordinary video... Wow ! So evocative... Time stood still there for a moment.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks 63caster. Really appreciate your comment :) Cheers
@wjgallen5 жыл бұрын
A craft I wish to learn and pass on to the next generation
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Sounds great :) Cheers
@petercollin56707 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter :) Cheers
@mikehygj92215 жыл бұрын
Awesome to know this isn’t a lost art!! Gorgeous brown, glad you released it.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@elirickard34963 жыл бұрын
This is so beautiful with the music added it’s even better
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eli. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@glenjo04 жыл бұрын
My first fly rod was bamboo. That was a long time ago when bamboo was the least expensive rods and the most expensive. Mine was a least.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Those were the days... :) Cheers
@anthonyaugustine75154 жыл бұрын
Well this is just beautiful
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@keithelliot37722 жыл бұрын
That is so relaxing to watch. Beautiful fish and a skilfully made rod.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith. Really appreciate it :) Cheers
@slint64837 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Gorgeous film,Amazing Rod Maker, and it is a spiritual moment when playing/praying in the creeks some of us call Church. You captured it enough that I'm feeling inspired. Thank You...
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zane. Really appreciate your comment :) Cheers
@jgon666brb4 жыл бұрын
The fish was as beautiful as the rod was. Very nice
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jose :) Cheers
@GoneFishingNow2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic film
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@LifeOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
Those rods are beautiful well done showing the craftsmanship in the video. Also that brown looked like an eel that was such a long fish!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Good to hear you like the video :) Many river trout are actually quite long and thin like this one, compared to lake living brown trout that feed more on fish. That's my experience anyway. Cheers
@LifeOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
That does make good sense I don't have much experience with river browns. looking forward to your next upload!
@stephensmith44804 жыл бұрын
I could watch a craftsman like that all day. Superb.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stephen. Glad you enjoyed the video :) Cheers
@bigpapi36367 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert. Glad you like it :) Cheers
@hoangthinhho95226 жыл бұрын
this is art
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. Really appreciate it :) Cheers
@josephthadeus18696 жыл бұрын
Really a beautiful fish, cant say how glad i am to see what you did... a pleasurable experience....
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joseph. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@MRjoey8816 жыл бұрын
one of the best videos i have seen in a long time thank you
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Really appreciate your comment :) Cheers
@fullstrutn7 жыл бұрын
this video epitomizes fly fishing ,and why it attracts me, soft quiet mornings ,not the ear damaging roar of a bass boat or stink bait of catfishing ,nothing wrong with either one BUT aint my style
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. Really appreciate your comment :) Cheers
@jacobstarr90103 жыл бұрын
I like both styles. Both entertain me. I prefer fly fishing for Bass, Bleugill and Trout, but for bigger species like salmon and Pike and walleye, i prefer spinning tackle.
@mohdfrdousahmad13223 жыл бұрын
Connor mcgregor went fishing..
@mackieredd55032 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Guys, another great video. True love for the art!
@transferandina4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Kind regards from Patagonia Argentina, the paradise of fly fishing in South America.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Appreciate it :) Cheers from Sweden
@sobazuki.seibehsan5 жыл бұрын
釣りなんだけど魚への愛を感じる動画、素晴らしい✴
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
どうもありがとう :)
@lacombriccoladellamoscaesp29794 жыл бұрын
Bellissimo video!!! 🎣🎣🎣
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Grazie mille :)
@Apocalipstick4 жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful beautifully done video. I'm so glad KZfaq recommend this.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Johanna. Really appreciate it :) Cheers
@gerhardstrydom52493 жыл бұрын
Super skills! Rod builder as well as flyfisher! Love the video...capturing the essence of the sport
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gerhard. Really appreciate it :) Cheers
@AlexK-vy3tt6 жыл бұрын
Bamboo rods are greatest! Especially with silk lines and leaders. You don't need to think about casting or presentation, you just fishing.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
Quite right Alex :) Cheers
@lourensnel75988 ай бұрын
Hope I will own a bamboo rod someday. Even an old one. With our currency in South Africa, it is simply too expensive 😢
@bracyelias3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable. Keep the beauty of this art, amigo!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bracy. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@dunkroken6 жыл бұрын
Vilken underbar liten film. Ingenting går upp mot att gå och kasta med Splitcane och torrfluga längs med en skogså i början av sommaren. Nu längtar jag ännu mer. Tack!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
Tack ska du ha dunkroken. Inte långt kvar nu :) Ha de gott
@rookiedevs20905 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@markhenderson61983 жыл бұрын
Man that's living right there.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@cosmo48863 жыл бұрын
What? !😂
@johnshand61764 жыл бұрын
The pure soul of flyfishing personified. Thanks from down-under in NZ.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. Appreciate it :) Cheers from Sweden
@casualobserver31454 жыл бұрын
Sweet Brown. And I thoroughly enjoyed the rod making.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@alfonsopreciado58955 жыл бұрын
I have many bamboo woods fly Rod made in England & 2 house of hardy fly reels I'm Mexican fly fisherman since 1970 fishing trouts & red fish
@jaypible56406 жыл бұрын
that thermos and bamboo/bowl/spoon/cup thing was the most hipster event ive ever witnessed.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
Good to hear Juan. Cheers
@Alex-hi3ky6 жыл бұрын
Just thought the same thing, and I live in Portland. Cheers. Tight lines.
@overbuiltlimited5 жыл бұрын
Jay Pible Would have been so much more “cool” if he were drinking coffee out of an old battered metal camping cup.
@beowulf59823 жыл бұрын
An absolute gem of a video i am so glad to have found it.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Really appreciate it :) Cheers
@ricdammar46057 жыл бұрын
this was, maybe...the very best video you guys have ever done. Outstanding! Scratch that it IS the best you have done! Keep at it.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ric. Appreciate your comment :) Cheers
@mprice1266 жыл бұрын
pay all that money for a rod.. and he can't afford a pair of waders
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
Awesome comment Vinny.
@robbiesharp3116 жыл бұрын
I'm sure he did hand carve that drinking cup.
@hansclausen47356 жыл бұрын
i dont get it . the rod they are making are much shorter then the one he use ???
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
Good one :)
@bamboomaker11937 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this video! As a maker myself it really captures the feelings and thoughts I have while working a strip on the forms or wrapping the guides. Then to take that new bamboo rod out to your favorite still water to see if it will perform the way you envisioned it would... You just get in a "zone" and the rest of the world falls away and time seems to just stop. Thank you for sharing this video.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bamboo maker. Good to hear you like the video :) Cheers
@JivyNazemle5 жыл бұрын
Доброе видео! Даже в наш век компьютеров и синтетических материалов, самым ценным остается то, что создано природой и руками человека.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
правда :)
@user-ex5un1hk5o5 жыл бұрын
Carpe Diem ого, ты русский, брат? Отличный контент
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
@@user-ex5un1hk5o Google translate ;)
@grahamjaya14136 жыл бұрын
Wah... Jos kang kopi ne!!! Hehehehe
@rusty96794 жыл бұрын
I don’t wear sweaters when I fish. Is that why I don’t catch fish? Please help thanks.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
That's probably the reason. Try it out and see ;) Cheers
@oldsmugglerflyfishing4 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. I can watch this video a thousand times.
@jamesprice69404 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. My favourite childhood memories are being 7-10 years old and being up at the crack of Dawn, fishing for trout on a river similar to this one.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Nice memory you got there James :) Cheers
@KarlMySuitcase3 жыл бұрын
That was the most hipster thing I have seen in a while. Still good though ;)
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Karl :)
@BillMarion4 жыл бұрын
I need to know what's up with the thermos and the wooden spoon looking thing, Is that coffee, or is it soup? You just couldn't get by with that on my river. I mean, the fish would talk...
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Well it's coffee for sure. We drink a lot of that in Sweden :) And the wooden thing is a cup made up north in Sweden by the sami people. Tastes even better in that kind of thing. Cheers
@BillMarion4 жыл бұрын
@@CarpeDiemFlyfishing Well now that you put it that way, I must have one! Seriously, I was joking, and I loved the video. In fact, I love this channel!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
@@BillMarion Thanks Bill. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@niccoaray-oliver19553 жыл бұрын
Love getting this video in my recommend from time to time
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nicco. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@ssnoc6 жыл бұрын
Great photography with excellent dynamic range, really well done - 👏
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob. Appreciate your comment :) Cheers
@ivangovnov77005 жыл бұрын
Amazing!))Hi from Russia!)
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ivan :) Cheers from Sweden
@sergeyrussianfisherman90525 жыл бұрын
russia like you,welcome
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :) :) спасибо
@der77714 жыл бұрын
Just wonder what kind of person can dislike this video????????????????
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@Adipper7 жыл бұрын
Agree with sentiment below. Just a beautiful depiction of craftsmanship taken stream side for the catch and release of a stunning brown. So refreshing in today's world of high modulus polymer coupled with hard rock. Thanks!!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Larry. Comment appreciated :) Cheers
@martinmar16625 жыл бұрын
well done: phenomenal, artistic, nostalgic video
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Martin. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@rppvt5 жыл бұрын
now, that's fishing.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick :) Cheers
@timb89705 жыл бұрын
i didn't know conor mcgregor fly fished!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Well, now you know :)
@DB-xc3jc5 жыл бұрын
tim b No he’s a sphincter snorkler!
@georgehaydukeiii63964 жыл бұрын
I thought it was Karl Childers from sling blade!
@geraldswain32597 жыл бұрын
I thought I was actually there in some of those scenes!!!..absolutely fabulous cinema photography, and stunning work. Regards.
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gerald. Really appreciate your comment :) Cheers
@greenrivers34594 жыл бұрын
in the area where I live also has become a habit of using a fishing rod from bamboo,but it's just too simple without so many manufacturing processes like your fishing rod, good job friends👍🏻
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Appreciate it :) Cheers
@dadexwine98515 жыл бұрын
Wooow
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :) Cheers
@heinrichdreyer40896 жыл бұрын
Guy fishing looks like connor megregor
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
We know. Heard that before :) Cheers
@Cccccj5 жыл бұрын
Stunning film lads!! Keep it up from Ireland 👍
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ciaran :) Cheers from Sweden
@bnktopa4 жыл бұрын
Jag har tittat på er videos och jag tycker om vad jag ser. Good videos and having translations is always a plus. Cheers from 16 year old finnish boy!
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Arvi :) Cheers from Sweden
@turbitoescort74606 жыл бұрын
Conor McGregor fishing
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing6 жыл бұрын
Nice compliment :) Thanks
@leejerry84255 жыл бұрын
ok mr soggy socks
@CarpeDiemFlyfishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Soggy indeed :) But it was worth it. Cheers
@hmidasliman65044 жыл бұрын
Among the most beautiful things I saw on this planet .