Here's a simple and oh-so-satisfying technique for toenailing. I've used this for many years. 🤓 👍
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@herrickkimball2 жыл бұрын
6 Answers to Frequent Comments... #1- The screws I'm using in this video are #9 x 3” PowerPro interior screws. #2-I'm using screws for framing interior partitions. I am not advocating the use of screws for structural framing. Nails have more shear strength, and I used nails when framing this house addition. This video is about nothing more than a simple how-to technique for easily and accurately toenailing studs. #3-As mentioned early in this video, this same technique works for toenailing with nails. #4- The interior walls in this video can not be nailed together on the deck, then tipped up into position against a drywalled ceiling and still fit tightly. Thus, they are being built in place. #5-Yes, screws are more expensive than nails. No doubt about it. #6-Yes, screws are more time consuming to use than a nail gun, and professional framers do not use screws. But professional remodelers (which was my profession for nearly 25 years) do use them. They are a satisfying and valid option for framing walls in place. Thanks for watching this video. 👍❤
@robertadelsberger37492 жыл бұрын
It’s sad for me to realize that there aren’t any carpenters anymore that know how to use a hammer. There really isn’t anything that is more efficient and cost effective than a combination of hand drives and a good framing gun. To me, screws are for the inexperienced, Expensive and time consuming. For toe nailing, put the toe of your boot against the stud and nail, or in your case, screw the opposite side
@volkan_boston2 жыл бұрын
thanks- can same screw be used if bottom plate is pressure treated?
@herrickkimball2 жыл бұрын
@@volkan_boston I think so. There was a concern at one time that pressure treated chemicals may corrode steel fasteners, unless galvanized, but I've been told that is no longer an issue.
@bryanutility96092 жыл бұрын
@@herrickkimball what kind of screws are you using? What size etc? I’m not good enough to see it.0
@herrickkimball2 жыл бұрын
@@bryanutility9609 #9 x 3" Power Pro. More information is in the pinned comment (the top comment on this page).
@Beaverdam832 жыл бұрын
Legend has it that he is still building this wall
@herrickkimball2 жыл бұрын
😂 Kind of true. It's an addition on my house that I started 3 years ago. The outside is done. The inside is still getting done. Building with no debt, while working full time. Should be all done next year. Or the year after. 👍
@ryankojabashian95992 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha. So good. Good on him for making it perfect, but I would make 5$/day if I took this approach to all my projects.
@kendodd87342 жыл бұрын
@@ryankojabashian9599 I know what u mean but obviously uve got a framing gun diys probably won’t have one so its gonna help them do it right if somewhat slowly but that said it is a great way of getting twists out of the studs when fitting I don’t know what the quality of studding is like in the states but in the uk it’s shocking trying to get straight true timber is almost impossible nowadays with all this quick grown gear that’s on the market nowadays
@stevesmith77752 жыл бұрын
Lol, like Trump
@phillips10032 жыл бұрын
@@kendodd8734 it's the same way here in the states, nothing like the good stuff in old days
@tedsteiner Жыл бұрын
As soon as he freehanded that 1-1/4" line perfectly, I knew I could trust this man with my life.
@hidinfrombiden1734 Жыл бұрын
Looked more like 1-1/2" to me, but my eyes ain't what they used to be😅.
@daltondrouillard93089 күн бұрын
Looked to me like when he flipped it over, another piece of wood without the knot was there with another line, so who knows if he got it right lol.
@RaymondCore Жыл бұрын
I framed houses more than forty years ago and we just jammed our boot against the base of the stud and drove the nails in from the other side. Very natural and very fast. No way they would let us take the time to be so accurate in those days. I would devise a quick-release clamp to go on the plate if I were using screws today but my construction days are long over. Nice video, you explained and illustrated well. I enjoyed it.
@defenda1 Жыл бұрын
I still do it with my boot too, works fine. I wedge it a bit past the line, when I shoot the nail it knocks over to the right spot.
@Papadoc10008 ай бұрын
Yeah I do the same thing, though there are sometimes tight circumstances where neither is possible like when you are about 19" away from an end stud and you need a spare installed at 16". No room for my fat foot or all the screws and nails put in and taken out. This is where you nail a 3" piece of scrap to the bottom right next to the line and that is your brace. Sometimes it doesn't survive 2 nails plus the pressure, but that's okay because it's just a temporary brace. I mean, all this is studwork, not cabinetry. I've never even thought about being off the width of a line as a problem.
@d465125 ай бұрын
Now I know why it's called toe nailing
@spo307Ай бұрын
exactly
@joanfrellburg49012 жыл бұрын
Good tip. You can also lay a 2x4 cut 14 1/2" against your previous stud so that it is 16'' on centre and repeat the process using no screws over and over. Or whatever your desired spacing happens to be. Just make sure you write on it so you don't grab the wrong piece of 2x4 lol.
@msk39052 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I do so they stay put
@1RAYGC2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@carlfritz94962 жыл бұрын
Wow, my head just exploded. Such an easy solution but I've never thought of it.
@tylerzmistowski58672 жыл бұрын
Easily repeated and STRONG as hell
@johnwaugh2613 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that tip .being a home owner and getting ready to do work on a Cabin that needs framing on the inside..
@dougschust110 ай бұрын
I am a homeowner with a day job who does not do anything construction related for a living. That being said I am working on framing out my basement and Bought this kzfaq.infoUgkxHQsUrwNr5GQrnx9V4xDdUr56qxwuiBHt gun. I have done a few walls already, have probably shot a couple hundred nails through this thing and have yet to have a misfire. It works awesome, good depth on every nail if you have your compressor set right. My literal only complaint is that it is a bit heavy and my arm can get a little tired especially whrn I am nailing at odd angles. That being said I am super happy with it and would buy it again. Hoping the old girl allows me to get my whole basement finished out!
@JobsiteJohnny-nn5zyАй бұрын
Did you frame walls with a brad nailer?
@SandyDuffАй бұрын
@@JobsiteJohnny-nn5zy and he thought it was heavy hahahahhahahaha
@thehatetank90572 жыл бұрын
I think tips like this are for guys like me who enjoy learning and trying different projects. Now I know I can tackle a small framing job with the tools I own. Thank you
@AS-zw4lk2 жыл бұрын
I discovered this very technique on my own (out of necessity) but more recently after reading old carpentry books I discovered that you can do the same thing with a flat head nail - just lie 2 flat head nails with the head on the line (tips away from the new stud) and give each a tap with the hammer so the head penetrates the timber - then you can push the new stud up against the nail heads and toe nail from the other side. It's easy to lift the nails out with you fingers. Works with nailer or hammer.
@herrickkimball2 жыл бұрын
I like it. Thanks for the comment.
@williammoore43802 жыл бұрын
Or cut a 14.5" piece of stud and lay it in place butted against already installed stud. Then just pick it up after installing first two screws/nails.
@AS-zw4lk2 жыл бұрын
@@williammoore4380 you can certainly do that but you might want a different spacing between members.
@justinstevenson2061 Жыл бұрын
@@AS-zw4lk ?? 16 on centre isn’t happy for you ?
@patty109109 Жыл бұрын
@@justinstevenson2061 have you ever built a wall? Not every stud can be placed 16, particularly if have to work around obstacles.
@doop69952 жыл бұрын
that inch and a quarter free hand was super!
@KECarter Жыл бұрын
That was impressive, wasn't it?
@katmeyster7 ай бұрын
This is perfect! I’m new to DIY and just have a very small area to frame out. This has made me much less anxious about the toenail process. And I already have all the tools and screws I need.
@regulatormachine2788 Жыл бұрын
I hammered the like button like he said, but now i need a new tablet...
@digitaldrive11922 жыл бұрын
Awesome video for DIY enthusiasts who don't understand best practices. Thanks for this!
@CytoplasmicGoo2 жыл бұрын
Instead of screwing 2 screws to hold the studs in place before putting toe screws in, I pre cut a 14 1/2” and a 13 3/4” 2x4 block and use them as reusable spacers. The first space I use 13 3/4” then the rest 14 1/2” block. I put the block in place put the stud against it, toe screw, remove then place in on the other side and repeat. I feel it’s faster this way and I don’t need to level all my studs just the first one.
@wilsonatore Жыл бұрын
Yeah I "invented" that technique too! The studs kept twisting as I tried to screw them in, now I do it all the time.
@CytoplasmicGoo Жыл бұрын
@@wilsonatore Darn, I should've patented that technique before a million of you guys invented it as well.
@mdgrech5 ай бұрын
why use a 13 3/4 to place the first stud?
@CytoplasmicGoo5 ай бұрын
@@mdgrech because normally drywall edge is on stud center, but is butted on the edge against a wall or corner when you start. It insures that when you start the drywall from the corner or butt against another wall you will be on center in subsequent studs.
@chasnetzow44015 ай бұрын
Learning to be a carpenter, I was informed that proficiency in toenailing would be mine after driving 10,000 nails. I’m pretty good at it now.
@michaelrivera8561Ай бұрын
😂
@mubeenliaqat59272 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Herrick. This helped me a ton. I never comment on a video but i am genuinely thankful for this tutorial. Thanks a lot again
@sarahcydal_tendencies2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this. I'm terrible with nails, so this was a perfect demonstration 🙏💫
@samuelsolano57592 жыл бұрын
sweet video, learning to build with wood and making my first piece of furniture right now and this was super helpful
@jaylewis8789 Жыл бұрын
I recently retired from doing this work my entire working life. I love watching you knowledgeable and competent carpenters and wood workers. One view and I subscribed.
@steveforbes8287 Жыл бұрын
Great tip! I never would have thought about doing that. Thank you for the education.
@rodneycaupp5962 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done. I did learn some stuff here. The pre-drill has always been my favorite technique, as an amateur.
@dreamingcode3 жыл бұрын
I got down on myself yesterday because I was doing it all wrong so I'm glad I found your video. Im new to DIY so thank you
@michaelglynn26382 жыл бұрын
I'm learning DIY and found this really useful, Thanks👍
@danielrothbart79912 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very informative. I have to add a few studs in a shower area and this will let me get them squared up nicely. Good video, showing all the important steps. I also can't help but wonder why "professional framers" are watching your video and then commenting negatively? It seems to be geared for lowly DIY'ers like me. Well done.
@mariad41832 жыл бұрын
Great tips - you are fabulous! Thank you for sharing!
@mywoolmitten3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! Very useful!
@hexhex72202 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. Brilliant
@Ruso_Moose4 ай бұрын
Excellent video... Thanks!
@SomeDumUsrName2 жыл бұрын
Excellent beginner technique.
@Splits-man2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great advice. Much appreciated!
@diastoleny2 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT!!! Great tip!!
@ms.ladietoyou86722 жыл бұрын
Thank you because I was struggling with trying to do a toe nail on the stud.
@ldtexas16483 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@stevesaunders6672 Жыл бұрын
I just shoot the studs in place using a battery operated trim gun, Then follow up with the screws, it is so much faster! You should predrill with a countersink bit, it's the taper in the head of the screw that splits the wood!
@gilbertojimenez87642 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the “tip”very helpful .
@2bittesla Жыл бұрын
Framing a house with screws will fail inspection as far as I know. Check your local building code. I suspect it has do with expansion, settling as well seasonal environmental factors. Screws brake were as nails twist and bend. If you've ever dismantled a wooden structure fastened with screws you will find a high percentage of them to be broken, were as broken nails are rarely encountered.
@activealАй бұрын
Insightful and well presented. Thanks!
@atweetythuyvi Жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thank you!
@aksks762 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@yanglu955511 ай бұрын
Oh wow, this is such a great video and great trick that I've just learned. Thank you very much!
@fransiscoalvarezinski62934 ай бұрын
Great tips. This will help me when I build some internal walls in my garage. Thanks.
@MichaelB-84 Жыл бұрын
This is golden. Thank you.
@mikecove13 жыл бұрын
I like the way you sped up the second demonstration 😉
@lindaholding5181 Жыл бұрын
Awesome 👍! I love it. Thank you!
@HB-yq8gy Жыл бұрын
Wow I like your tricks. I used those 2-1/2 composite deck screws I had leftover to build an interior non-bearing wall. This was my first time using screws. Boy it was very strong passed inspection.
@GuelGuelG4 ай бұрын
You gained a new subscriber today, I have become a DIY enthusiast and this video helped a great amount. Thank you!
@clemmcguinness10872 жыл бұрын
That's very useful, thanks
@GivePeaceAChance12 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips! Very useful when doing this kind of work over ones head! I always appreciate simple tips that work!
@sanjaybhatikar Жыл бұрын
This helped me so much, thank you 🙏
@domo86765 ай бұрын
We used to use hammers and nails. Simply position the stud, back it with your left foot so it can't move and drive in the nails.
@free2bfree583 Жыл бұрын
Excellent educational video. Thank you..
@coreybartkuscole4443 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@joyadams507 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for your valuable information! I am going to be framing in a chicken run with 2x4s this was so helpful! I was wondering how I was going to effectively attach my 2x4s using the toe mail method!
@69A12SuperBee2 жыл бұрын
Thanx for sharing!👍🏻
@fredymendez17862 жыл бұрын
excelent professional JOB!
@daze0239 ай бұрын
Thank you for your time Very good idea
@fourftr Жыл бұрын
Great tips. Being not a carpenter this was great
@larscajvall5804 Жыл бұрын
Best ever. Thx from Sweden
@flpmacias2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your info I really appreciate that much You have no idea how many two by fours they’re open on me and I learn a lot just by watching your video thank you very much and God bless you
@gregl2249 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation-keep ‘‘em coming
@roverboat2503 Жыл бұрын
I just happen to be about to start building a stud wall, in 20 minutes time when I finish this coffee in fact. You have just made my life easier. Thank you!
@josephpostma17878 ай бұрын
What was your wall for?
@whoisjohngalt48802 жыл бұрын
I admire the guy’s courage to post it. Idiots on here that think you would ever use this method in every application show the extent of their abilities. I’ve used this method a handful of times on remodel projects when the stud length varies drastically and you have to install your bottom and top plates first and then literally measure each individual stud to frame out your wall….also very handy if you’re building a pony wall in place and are dealing with short studs that don’t “wedge” in place on the top plate. It’s a simple concept that seems to have really stumped a lot of these KZfaq “experts”. Haha.
@martydibergi52282 жыл бұрын
Thank you ayn
@joeluther8452 жыл бұрын
Want to use screws for framing? Make sure your local code allows them and you must use SDWS rated screws. Woods structures, though, are inherently flexible through temperature and humidity extremes, wind loads, ground shaking etc. Using a stiff brittle fastener like a screw works against woods natural flexibility. You’re asking for trouble years down the road when it will be impossible to fix because it is covered up. Nails are proven in all these conditions.
@willymorales9367 Жыл бұрын
When I do it, it’s like calculating the angle of entry for space x. This guy makes it look easy.
@rich.trails2 жыл бұрын
For stretching a stud, i use layers of boxboard (cereal box). Won't compress like cardboard
@SandyDuffАй бұрын
just buy a board stretcher..... they sell them at home depot
@arnnass85 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@fuyu59792 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Wondered about utilizing screws for toe screwing fo years. Now will be utilizing the info in my DIY projects not for stud work, but repairing my green house. Kudos for vid. New subscriber because of this vid. Looking forward to ur next one.
@steveshook73312 жыл бұрын
I personally wouldn't use screws because they break while nails will bend with movement
@tommyprice86338 ай бұрын
Glad I finally figured out the secrets of wood stretching!
@TacoBell5DollarBox5 ай бұрын
Thats pretty cool thanks man
@donnagagne3813 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.
@trevorallen22742 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip.
@hants1 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant thanks
@stoichiometry1479 ай бұрын
Thank you
@bonniebrinkley77592 жыл бұрын
Building a floating bench in my mud room this really helped me with the supports
@marvinmartion11782 жыл бұрын
Well sir I enjoy your precise placement and don't fault you for it. As a carpenter for close to 50years I've come to see great benefits of screwing my studs in remodeling. Anytime a customer makes a change it's easier to make happen. Although I don't get quite a precise as you in screw placement. I find that I can make minor adjustments to the line by over tighten or backing off slightly. Your clearly a good carpenter!
@herrickkimball2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your perspective and comment here Marvin. I was a carpenter and remodeler for 25 years before moving on to other things. Screws for interior stud walls in remodeling situations are a sensible option. I'm sure you can remember when we didn't have these kinds of screws. The framing in this video is an addition on my own home. I made two changes to the layout and the changes were easier to make because the screws reverse out with no problem. Thank you. 👍 P.S. For those professionals who watch this video and think that I am advocating the use of screws for all framing applications, I am not doing that. Structural framing should be done with nails because they have more tensile strength. I framed this addition on my home with nails. This is a video specifically about toenailing (or "toe-screwing"). And, as I mention in the beginning, this technique works with nails as well as it does with screws.
@kassandralehming96412 жыл бұрын
@@herrickkimball Tensile strength refers to the resistance of an object to deformation and fracture under stretching load along its length, such as a rope under tension. In carpentry, the resistance of nails to pull-out is much less than the internal strength of a steel nail along its length. Screws have much greater pull-out resistance and almost always the wood will fail before the screw is stretched, unless perpendicular force is also being applied. By the time that modulus of elasticity or point of fracture become relevant, the structure has already failed. If the studs in your wall are racked 20 degrees off plumb, you don't have a wall.
@j.dacosta331 Жыл бұрын
Thank you my honest good teacher
@carrieanneatreides624011 ай бұрын
Excellent! Happy to subscribe.
@zaratgreen2095 Жыл бұрын
Much thanks.
@mattjford47326 күн бұрын
That’s how I’ve always toenail my screws too .
@DiamondSupplyC0 Жыл бұрын
Wow right off the bat I’ll be trying this to see how accurate it is. No rough framing around here
@blumenaue7590 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a million.
@rodjameswales604021 күн бұрын
Brilliant, thanks
@alirezat9565 ай бұрын
Thank you, I had a hard time for long time 👍😊
@pmacc35576 ай бұрын
Great thanks 👍🙏
@bharathreddy742 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@jerryfrederick66105 ай бұрын
Great video. Great tip for toe nailing. Makes to much sense, solves the problem of the stud shifting over a little. As far as nails go, I do not remember the last one I drove in with a hammer.
@iowawizkid13 жыл бұрын
I like the Milwaukee bits with the DeWalt driver... lol :)
@davem66852 жыл бұрын
DelWauky
@doctorartphd6463 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@titanweese72352 жыл бұрын
Built a solid base for my chicken coop! 🦾 thanks for the advice!
@wingrider10045 ай бұрын
Excellent
@chuckredd91312 жыл бұрын
Wife buys a lot of nuts & grated cheeses in plastic containers at big box stores. I use them to put different size screws in, label size on it. Grab the size you need & head to job sight. I buy screws from stores selling them in bulk to cut cost & never over-buy the expensive ones already boxed up.
@farmerdave79652 жыл бұрын
I cut the board three times and it's still too short.
@herrickkimball2 жыл бұрын
You need a real board stretcher. 👍🏻
@stanhankins31752 жыл бұрын
You are sneaking up on it!
@mitchellgardner21932 жыл бұрын
Always measure once & cut 3x.
@brucemclouth43312 жыл бұрын
You measure....I measure....I cut....all three different!
@pokerface40782 жыл бұрын
Buy a new non rubber tape. 🤣
@tslim250 Жыл бұрын
Recently was building 2x4 construction shelves in my basement, i was using a small brad air nailer to attach my boards so i could check for level and tap them to bend the brads to make small adjustments. worked pretty good!
@SandyDuffАй бұрын
and then it all fell apart when things were put on shelves