Joe is hands down the most articulate person in Stretford Paddock team. His sense of humour is the icing on the cake!

I said this at the time. The level of control that United exerted against City, even though they only had 30% possession is something I’ve not seen before. From the possession stats alone, you might think United were soaking up loads of pressure to hit on the break, like they did under Ole. In fact, United never once looked like they were going to lose that game. Ten Hag = top G

I absolutely respect anyone who can turn around and admit they are wrong

Neville highlighting this whole "style of play" thing is so spot on. Ole was constantly berated for winning games playing counter-attacking football, like somehow there's only one correct way to get 3 points boring the opposition into submission like Pep. I love watching us play under Ten Hag even if we're not the finished article yet, football is as much about entertainment as it is tactics. Our manager seemingly has a great balance of both.

U know it takes a big man to come out n say he was wrong especially on a large platform , respect

If Stretford Paddock ever let Joe leave, the viewer base would plummet. He is absolutely the voice of the real NORMAL fans. Not these social media idiots who think football is a game of FIFA or Football manager. Keep him at all costs!!

F I N A L L Y Thank god someone like Gary Neville has said what I’ve been feeling, that it’s not necessarily HOW United play but HOW WELL united play

Great representation for paddock joe, warmed my heart watching carragher having eat his words and show respect on the butcher’s name.

Love seeing the SP lads putting these mainstream pundits on ice for the world to see. Brilliant stuff. Fair play from Carra (for once) for not doubling down on his stupidity. Only thing I have left to say is I’ll bet they were happy McKola wasn’t there to lay into them again.

I’m so glad Neville said the point about counter attack football. Fergie literally won us the treble and many other trophies playing that style in Europe and against teams he thought where very dangerous. I remember the 3-3 in Barca, Juve result, countless Arsenal games were played on the back foot and explosive counters.

Jamie Carragher- "Martinez is too small for the premier league". Lisandro Martinez- "Hold my beer". Jamie Carragher- "Well crap".

Well in Joe, great job reping the reds on the Overlap!

Fair play. Souness is the real clown

Joe is by far the best representative from all united fan channels. Keep up the good work m8

I hate when I have to agree with Gary😂. And I’m a Utd fan.

Next time don't judge people before you see them play

Jamie caragher and Garry Neville are an amazing partnership even if you don't like Liverpool

Joe - best in the business. The way he articulated what Ten haag has done, especially treatment on sancho, was a breath of fresh air

I really don’t understand why fans are gagging for validation from “pundits”. We all know how sick The Butcher and Casemiro is - fuck the haters!

I agree with you Gary, give me old school counter attacking football all day long.

The game for me this season that cemented all my optimism in " we are back " was the tottenham game,we nullified them like ive never seen,while Ronaldo watched from the sidelines

I think Carragher was projecting on the height stuff

Get souness on here lads! Or a written apology will do!

Thanks that was a great football group discussion, with even Carra talking sense for a change👍👍

To be fair he is wrong about most things.... he didn't even know it was wrong to spit in someone's face..

I can't blame this man he was just saying his honest opinion. Respect to the old players

Against City we defended really well, but it would be nice to see more of that. We still look too easy to get past at times when we lose the ball. Not fast enough getting back into shape etc. Sides still fancy being able to score against us. They also seem to think they can rattle us and put us off our game. Leeds did that pressing us high and winning most second balls etc. But what was good was how the side adjusted to that and were able to fix the problem on the fly. Even in the first half. Could have won that match. P.S. I'd bet on Arsenal faltering. I am not sure MUFC has enough yet to challenge though. Much of it is down to luck and how many of our squad stay available. City might win it and then have it taken off them in summer, along with four or more other titles. Seems the EPL is out to make an example of them (it may be encouraged too, because the powers that be are peeved about the oil princes not falling in line over stuff going on in the world).

Good stuff! Long may Ten Haag's reign continue

The little dig at the start. Joe Smith, you are the man

Great job by Joe- calm, composed articulate, insightful. 👍

Brilliant and well spoken.

Top contributions Joe, so articulate👏

Martinez is the new Passarella!! Amazing player

I love Joe man such a beautiful human ❤️ my guy

ETH’s philosophy summed up is “Possession with vertical progression” and “wanting to win every game”. ETH has principles or as he fondly likes to say “the rules” and he believes in himself and his team to tactically outsmart the opposition. What I love about our manager is his quiet confidence which permeates throughout the club and to the fans. And when everyone in the squad knows there are consequences if you break “the rules” they start to self-govern themselves to do the right thing on the pitch. P.s. I’m not annoyed anymore when I hear the word “philosophy” because he can execute on his plans. ✌🏼

Joe is exactly right when he said Ten Hag is playing this way because of the players at his disposal, Ten Hag wants to dominate games and win. "...some fans think we need to step up, we don't we need to get better at what we are doing currently" that type of thinking is the reason why Gary Neville failed in such spectacular fashion in his very brief stint as manager of Vallencia.

all the cbs under 6 foot in the PL 1. Lisandro Martinez Man United 175 cm (5-9) 2. Cesar Azpilicueta Chelsea 178 cm (5-10) 3. Nathan Ake Man City 180 cm (5-11) 4. Thiago Silva Chelsea 181 cm (5-11) 5. Marc Guehi Crystal Palace 182 cm (5-11) 6. Calum Chambers Aston Villa 182 cm (5-11) 7. Malang Sarr Chelsea 182 cm (5-11) thats 6 cds Carragher didn’t criticise because of hight Carragher is only going Martinez because he's a united player

Well done Joe, proud of you son. 👏

Where can the full video be watched?

Like these talks.👍good analysis

Ever heard of someone called Fabio Cannavaro Jamie? Roberto Ayala? Javier Mascherano? Ivan Cordoba? Carles Puyol?

Agree with what Neville said at the end there. I don't want us to keep possession for possessions sake. We will always dominate against smaller opposition and I will happily watch counter attacking football against good opposition as long as we win. We have never been a possession based football team

I agree with Gary Neville's comment at the end there. UTD is not a possession obsession team like citys & Liverpools even it's best teams bore a whole mark of free flowing counter attacking football. It's in their DNA and that's what separates it from the rest of the pack down the years.

Joe and Gary were on point. Winning matters.

In modern football I think cbs can be a bit smaller and still be fine..because football is more tactical now and from corners you don't see martinez marking some a twice he's size...also most teams don't have a 6ft3 poacher waiting in box from crosses...defence are helped alot now by wingers and cdms...they tuck in and double team certain players...

Ten hag has worked the league out very quickly due to his understanding of the game a lot of prem teams are one dimensional they are high press/ compact / or counter attacking / or just brute force the latter being so much harder to deal with ie leeds in the first game hag just has a great understanding of football! It’s as simple as that in my book

go Joe XD was great seeing on there!

teams need that tough player who will hurt the oppositions tricky players. City and liverpool have rodri and fabinho who will go through players and make them scared to attack in fear of getting injured, united until this season have only had mctominay who wasn’t smart about it and u could work around him, now with martinez and casemiro they have that fear factor. U can’t let players like maddison or olise at their clubs get into the game and have multiple chances without going through them or they’ll have a field day

‘What we need to do is get better at what we’re doing currently’ - absolute nail on the head. Look at Madrid, the masters of finding ways to win the CL, it wasn’t always by dominating the ball.

Bro still ain’t apologize for slating Licha before he even kicked a ball 🤦🏾‍♂️ but hey we’ll take the little wins 😂😅

Excellent presentation

Brilliant stuff from Joe

Europe saying: Lisandro Martinez is too little for MUFC Argentina saying: Thank you World Champion!

Not a carragher fan but it’s refreshing to hear a pundit admitting they got it wrong instead of doubling down.

Now we need souness to say Casemiro isn't just a steady Eddie..

At least he can admit it unlike Neville who constantly shifts the goal posts

Well in Joe!

Wer can I watch all of this?

Where's souness who apparently thinks 5 time champions League winner cassimero is a steady Eddie and Martinez is to small 🤭

I never thought I'd say this in my lifetime but caragher is my favorite pundit

We want a style of play that gives at 3 points on the day

Carragher initially made those comments about Martinez because he was coming to Utd. Thats all. His seen players like Chris Perry have a very successful career in the EPL, Who himself was 5'9. The Utd Biasness is not gonna stop anytime soon, From these ex scousers turned pundits.

Smart guy our Joe 🙏

We should thank Cara for the extra motivation!

did gary say we need to play ole ball or am i hearing things 😂

Erik 10/10 Hag.

Nice one Joe!

4:10 Lisandro Martinez

Okay. Respect for this Carragher.

About time. Took him long enough. Would have loved if he came out himself and said it but he had to be coaxed into it

Carra What a Moby 🇦🇷 🤣 United are on the way up Something really good is happening at united & I'm Buzzing 🔴⚪⚫🇳🇱

Brilliant showing Joe.

I am not too keen on the idea that Manchester United should always be dominant. All tactics should be about maximize your strengths and minimize the strength of the opponent. Take Sir Alex Fergusson, what was his style of playing. Well in my mind, it depended partial on the squad that he had at the time but mostly on the opponent. He played once with 7 defenders in one game, and once he played with Patrice Evra as sole defender. Tactics is never about playing your style of playing, it is always to see the strength in your team and use the weakness in your opponent. Tactics is always about being able to adapt. For example Liverpool. Jurgen Klopp's team has struggled this season. Would you say that Jurgen Klopp has adapted his tactics during the struggle of the players that he has?

I think football changes overtime and I think today's football is possession based I know the ball over the top counter attack is exciting but the top teams now do play possession based football I can remember back in the day when over the top balls ruled counter attacking football was the way but not todays top teams they play not to loose the ball easily by long balls not hitting there mark

AWB n DDG deserve some recognition n apologies from some of these guys for the way they have improved this season

Absolutely agree with Gary. Possession based football is just snobbery. I’ll take a successful counter attacking side any day .

Cool as joe, well done 👏 ✔️

“I can admit when i’m wrong” No Jamie, this would be a first for you.

Baresi was also 5'9

Real Madrid are a perfect example of how they play well but not always the fluid, front foot football barca play yet look at how successful they are. Spot on there by Gary.

De Gea's skills with the ball at his feet is the most misinterpreted subjective opinion I see brought around as facts. He's pretty decent with his feet, but as the United keeper you get judged 3 times as hard as other goalies. If you look at mistakes that lead to goals for instance and compare him to Allison, Neuer and Ederson, they mostly have 1 each in the last 2 seasons. 20/21 Allison have 3. 19/20 Ederson and De Gea both have 3. 18/19 De Gea had 4 and Allison 3. So actually the last years, he barely makes a mistake. But yet there's this opinion that De Gea makes a lot of errors, yet you see other goalies clowning around, like Neuer, but apparently they are perfect. De Gea plays to his skills perfectly. But if someone high presses you, what is he going to do, dribble players? The way I see it it's the United judgement, same as if United wants to buy a player he's 3 times as expensive as if Arsenal wants to buy him. And on top of that a PL club buying a player is already 3 times as expensive as a French club buying a player. Just look to the Portugese stories lately to see more about that, they are laughing their asses off in those clubs counting money when Liverpool or United come knocking.

Pained me to do it but I agree with Gary here. It’s quite disrespectful to other top sides to have this arrogant expectation that we’ll walk into the lions den, their home stadium, mug them off with dominating the ball and boss them. That’s just not realistic tbh. These are top sides and top rivalry. I believe in how it used to be in breathe, get through the first 10/20 minutes and get a foothold in the game to then work from there.

Joe should have been sat in one of the chairs alongside Neville and Carragher, the guy is absolute class and one of the reasons the Stratford Paddock is the cats conkers.

Souness?? 🤣 yeah right

Martinez is great

Good on Carragher for doing what others can’t and admitting he was wrong.

Ffs! Why did you'll hv to ask him to apologise... He might have jinxed it!

Joe Smith schooling people! 🧑‍🎓

Next week souness admits he's wrong about casemiro.

Wheres souness at 😂

I cannot imagine ETH coming out with 'THE FACTS!!!'.

Finally Carragher has finally admitted he was wrong so he has my respect back Souness will take a long time with how many MU players he berates every time

Fair enough...

Neville is talking my talk. This idea of every team wanting to play like Pep is not us and it has never been us even ten hag realized it's not a man utd way after the two games maybe it's about the players that he has but I prefer a fast pace football than pass pass nonsense.

No shock there, you should make an announcement when Carragh gets one right.

Best thing Gary’s said in a while

Martinez the honeybagger 😂 strong and fearless

Its funny how people berate others for coming over as dead for having no opinion yet equally savage anyone who has an opinion that differs just because it is another opinion they don't agree with.

Martinez has always been good in the air though. I don't get how he apologized there.

Glad to see Joe here!