I want to see half the squad gone and cleared out either way if the manager goes or not. If the manager goes and we keep the same players, then what's the point... going to be more the same.. its difficult now but lets back ETH under this new regime. Hes got 1 year left, let's see what he can do under ineos. At least we wont have to pay any compensation if we decide to part ways next year.

Well we need at least 5 players so sell away

At least the players will be recieving a 25% reduction in wages next season. After missing out on the champions league. Wages for top earners should be basic level £200k per week. If they qualify for champions league. Then add £50k+£75k. Give bonuses for every win. £15k to £20k. Wages should be increased for doing well. Paying high wages regardless is just crazy....

Bruno mainoo rasmus onana safe . Rest can go.

rOnAlDo is tHe pRoBlEm

Among all the players you all focus on Rashford and his pay as if he is the only players who gets paid and as if you are paying from your pockets. Rashford ignore their comments there are millions outside who are supporting and value you, these are either haters or racist so don’t bother with their comments. Those are good in criticizing others are the worst in the field. Rashforddddd you are simbaaaaa🦁🦁🦁🦁👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️

The players still have the power. If no club comes in and matches, increases or even gets near their current earnings, then theres no chance theyre gonna leave. This summer is so important going forward. It sets the tone for future negotiations under the new regime

Keep the manager and sort everything else first, selling players, docking salaries, getting the management in order, giving youngsters game time

Ronaldo please tell us how ten hag should set up “pragmatically”? It’s easy to say “you should do this” unless there is actually another way to play. The squad has been decimated by injuries, add to that the serious lack of talent we possess, the toxicity of player power that definitely exists, the guy had zero chance of doing more than he has. You are naive to think the this is on the coach

ETH going to Ajax and no good mangers on the market for United, Happy that most of the players are up for sale

Happy that most of the squad are up for sale

Erik ten Fraud

Kkkkkk this media too bad for man united club

The ten Hag argument, while all your lads points are valid, you all missed the biggest point. These players are doing to him what they do to every boss every 18 months. No gaffer on earth wants his team to be defensively open, play low intensity, lose the ball and not feed his only available striker. This. THIS is precisely why I'm ten Hag in for another season till this squad is 100% Erik's (after releasing problematic players like Rashford). His first season showed us what we can do when players put in just 80% effort

I love Joe but haven’t missed him swallowing mid-sentence

Massive sell of and ETH out in the summer, hopefully. Bring in physical and athletic players.

Makes me happy to hear that they are willing to sell majority of the squad. We’ve been needing it for years. Just keep the kids then bring on the right players around them.

The whole declan rice's missus thing is so weird. Why would people want to see him with someone they personally fancied more? Literally what is in it for them? It's just so bizarre.

I really got fooled by that important thing to say 😂as soon as I heard manscape 😂😂😂jay u got me

Joe and Jay mention Rashford scored 30 goal last season as soon as possible in every video. He's fuckin shite. This squad have gone through manager after manager. It's past the point of getting 80% of them to fuck. Club needs a cultural reset. Rashford and his media team are top of the get to fuck list.

He hasn’t lost me. Fans just need to accept the first 3 years is always rebuilding. Ten Hag needs better players. He’s still got lots of crap players that he’s working with.

This is a nothing story my house is for sale if someone knocks on my door and asks to pay stupid money for it

Ronaldo talking in hindsight… gave Rashford a new contract after an unbelievable season and bought mount expecting these injuries??

In all the chat about ETH does everyone forget that in 89/90 Utd finished 13th and won FA Cup, 90/91 finished 6th and won ECWC. It took time for SAF to put his team together. Before we finished 2nd in 91/92 we were still playing players like Mal Donaghey and Ralph Milne. No disrespect to them, but not title winning players. Replaced them with the likes of Kanchelskis and Paul Parker and we get closer and win in 92/93. Give ETH time

What on earth is he talking about here 40:30 - 41:56 Makes absolutely no sense to me. Someone pls explain.

@FullTimeDevils Can you objectively make a comparison between Ten Hag's first 2 seasons with Pep, Klopp and Arteta. Please highlight the players Pep, Klopp and Arteta inherited from previous managers and how many of them left the club on 1st transfer and how many more came in and left in subsequent transfer windows. How many seasons it took for them to completely overhaul the team to their preference. Considering Man City had title winning team for Pep take over. Klopp had a mixed squad of Coutinho, Can, Lallana, Skrtel and so on. They had finished 6th before Klopp took over. Arteta had Aubameyang, Lacazete, David Luiz, Ozil and so on. Class and quality players nonetheless. 2020 Arsenal finished 8th, 2021 5th , 2022 2nd. Clear improvement and he was backed by the board. They didnt sack him just coz the fans wanted to sack. Us. Man Utd fans are just being influenced by the the media to get another manager sacked. This is no different than Mourinho and Ole times. Also, please mention the FFP constraint that Man Utd had to work with this season. Back-to-back FA Cup finals in his first 2 seasons is no fluke. Winning League Cup was no fluke. If someone with a team injuries totalling 60-65 this season alone can still get to FA Cup Final, i say give him another year with proper players.

Draw near to Jesus and he will draw near to you

Ineos investment in the new zealand all blacks has been nothing short of a disaster,they just keep taking money out of nz rugby,ineos are the glazers 2.0

Lets be honest here ,who wants any of our players? Were stuck with them ,plqin and simple

Ronaldo is so negative man. Always negative take on everything.

new guy just says yeaaa, yea, yea....

Thank god Joe is back. Needed someone who sees the positive sides of Erik Ten Hag.

If Guardiola or Arteta had been appointed at the start of this season they would have A walked away or or B done worse than we are doing now. It takes a strong mind to deal with the out and out shit show that's been going on at the club since mourinho walked in. Club in chaos and players basically just not giving a shit.

United won't sell Rashford because ever since his meals on wheel PR stunt he's been the poster boy of left wing politics and the Glazers would rather virtue signal and appear to be woke than win trophies, which is why they gave him a massive contract and keep playing him despite his terrible form and attitude.

It needs to happen, it's time for a drastic change from top to bottom.

We look at other clubs from the outside -in, we have years worth of stats for the likes Liverpool and arsenal, all we see is a progression in position finishes, and we may have watched them on a super Sunday and say they looked good against a top 6 side, but theres a reason they finished outside the top 6.. where we live and breath united , emotions are involved, so week to week we feel it , its shit. we just need to go all in over 5 years , build a team not just a squad.

So from this conversation we have worked out that Joe has an opinion of someone who thinks that the manager who ever it may be needs to be given time and have an understanding of situations might not always go to plan straight away. Where Ronaldo is like a lot of United "Fans" who believe that the moment a team starts to struggle, then there can be no progress and so start over again. With this kind of feeling then Jay's feeling of crying when we next win the league will never actually become a reality, because it just won't happen. Give a manager 5 years who ever it may be and just back however they are doing

Looking at the remaining fixtures scares me

✌️out Rashy. Time to go.

Keep the manager and get new players, if it's still the same then get rid, the current players are not good enough

A manager that every single fan said and came to the agreement on would need at least 3 seasons to turn this squad around and that was under the assumption that anything about how the club was operating in regards to recruitment improved tremendously which shocker has been the same old shit as the last decade. There is no more than 8 players in that squad i would even look to hold onto if anyone wants the rest and maybe 4 of them would be starters. What the fuck kind of miracles are people actually expecting of the manager???? P.S before i even hear the style of play arguments........ Other than van gal what manager has been able to implement a style of play with these players??? Remeber theyve played under 4 different ones now surely there must a reason none of them managed to do it??? Wonder what they all have in common???

Keep the manager and sell these failures

Jay, USMC = UNITED STATES MARINE CORP...ooh rah!

I'm not a lover of Ten Hag, but we've become immune to how much of a mess we are. Casemiro and Maguire as a CB partnership is bordering on laughable. Then Eriksen who can't run playing alongside a teenager in Kobee. In attack it's two raw kids and Antony. Oh and the left-back is a right-back and the right-back can't really play football. And the keeper has only been here six months. It's a fucking disaster and no manager would make much out of it.

A big club would of sold rashford by now. Do you think barca or munich would tolerate his performance levels? Not a chance.

Well Alexis, Lukaku, Young, Darmian went to Inter

We did sell Ronaldo for a profit, but we bought him at 17 years old

The greatness of the Fergie years of United was the spine all players learn from previous players

Top clubs identify when a player isn’t right for them anymore (or when the balance has tipped) while they’re still at their peak and sell them on for good money. We’ve been hanging on to them and letting them go on a free when they’re busted and/or have slumped so much on form they’re virtually worthless. It’s not sustainable. And if we’re going to have a fire sale, I can’t think of a better time.

The main problem is sentimentalism for players like Rashford, Shaw, and Macquire. A lot of it is a shit attitude which was kinda cleared at first. These players and especially Rashford, when first came across this ruthless state of ten Hag, reacted to it. His ego did him good, he wanted to impress and he got his results. But that is the issue with Rashford and honestly with most players. It's not his fault he needs to get criticized and ridiculed before it hits him and he goes bonkers. But ita that within time if the culture is not upheld, which is conducted by the system, the shit attitude with sneak in and slowly stink the whole place out. Rashford got use to ten Hags dynamics, ten Hag got soft. Rashford took advantage of that and went on a mental holiday. That's why he comes out now and then to defend himself publicly. It's insecurity, about knowing the problem is you. And you think you should be protected for all that you have done for the club so then comes the entitlement. Which got fostered because we loved him. City loves their players too but can Foden afford to be like Rashford. Can Grealish? Can even de Bruyne or Halaand? And you tell me out the players I mentioned, who is even top 3 at the moment, and who deserves to be entitled. SAF wouldn't allow this, he would notice his love for Rashford is a weakness and stinks the place out. Ten Haag's mistake was actually not being as ruthless as he was last season. His blindsight was thinking, these players now get it. Even Bruno only started performing in the second half of the season. It's the culture, that needs to come from top to bottom, not middle to bottom or bottom to middle.