Subaru Engine Go Kart Swap on a Budget!

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5 жыл бұрын

Our off road go kart project named Pugly (because it's ugly and kind of looks like a Pug) has a damaged 107cc three speed engine after we put it up against our mini ATV in early 2018. We recently got a 7 horsepower 211cc Subaru Robin overhead cam engine from one of our viewers at our Mini Mayhem meet, so we figured we'd treat this like we were teenagers on a budget! So with a cheap used go kart frame with a bad engine, an engine a friend found for us, and a few parts from Go Power Sports, we make it run!
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@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras 5 жыл бұрын
If we cut a bunch of weight out of this kart and had a long, flat road to test it on, it would probably do 60 miles an hour with this gearing setup!
@Scratch-athon
@Scratch-athon 5 жыл бұрын
Ike needs an iron...rip van wrinkl e lol. Great job gentleman
@richiejones6471
@richiejones6471 5 жыл бұрын
How does ike grow his facial hair so quickly 🤔 anyone else notice ?
@TowMaters
@TowMaters 5 жыл бұрын
Let Her fly man... Let Her fly...
@nitro_rc_dude8158
@nitro_rc_dude8158 5 жыл бұрын
Can i have the pugly engine
@DeliciousDeBlair
@DeliciousDeBlair 5 жыл бұрын
Put the torque converter on it! \(^_^)/
@vincentlunsford1580
@vincentlunsford1580 5 жыл бұрын
Please use a reverse gear box. I would like to see one used. Me and my three year old son don’t miss a video. We are building a mini model T rat rod and enjoy all your videos. Thanks again guys!
@band1986
@band1986 5 жыл бұрын
That's the coolest thing I've heard all day. Good job dad.
@tannerhoelscher8519
@tannerhoelscher8519 5 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome that’s exactly what I was gonna do when I have kids
@juliogaribay5331
@juliogaribay5331 5 жыл бұрын
Where can I see pictures of that build?? I'm very Interested in it
@vincentlunsford1580
@vincentlunsford1580 5 жыл бұрын
Julio Garibay message me on Facebook I have messenger but not Facebook Choppin Rice I can send pics it’s been a well documented build first build with my son and it’s turning out pretty cool
@jerryking1434
@jerryking1434 5 жыл бұрын
@@juliogaribay5331 me too...
@MatthewSmith193
@MatthewSmith193 5 жыл бұрын
Not even 10 seconds in and I'm yelling "Pugly's back!" and everybody else at the university library is looking at me like I'm nuts. Love your work guys, keep it coming!
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@AlvinTexas1
@AlvinTexas1 5 жыл бұрын
Who else watches these guy on their lunch break?
@jevonhey1688
@jevonhey1688 4 жыл бұрын
That's funny because I do.
@masterchiefgaming8815
@masterchiefgaming8815 4 жыл бұрын
That’s funny because it’s the summer for me
@goldenshepherd4633
@goldenshepherd4633 3 жыл бұрын
Masterchief Gaming lol he talking bout at work not school
@jakespappas9208
@jakespappas9208 3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha I don’t even have a summer break I live in Australia
@photondebuger45
@photondebuger45 2 жыл бұрын
I do montages with their vids lol like watching them
@radracer2033
@radracer2033 5 жыл бұрын
You guys should definitely put a forward, neutral, reverse gearbox on some of those offroad go karts
@isaacitllbefine7231
@isaacitllbefine7231 5 жыл бұрын
3rd
@connersalmon8362
@connersalmon8362 5 жыл бұрын
Isaac it'll be fine this is great😂😂
@michaelmcfarland3108
@michaelmcfarland3108 5 жыл бұрын
5th
@tywilliamson2472
@tywilliamson2472 5 жыл бұрын
No one cares
@michaelmcfarland3108
@michaelmcfarland3108 5 жыл бұрын
@@tywilliamson2472 an nobody cares about what you say
@tylerclementi4272
@tylerclementi4272 5 жыл бұрын
Ur very funny my friend 😋
@burdman1954
@burdman1954 5 жыл бұрын
take the cylinder and rod off the old engine, block off the cylinder hole with a plate, remount it between the clutch and axle and use it as a transmission...
@ironhorseranchhorsetrainin2020
@ironhorseranchhorsetrainin2020 5 жыл бұрын
You'd have to balance the crankshaft. Good thought tho
@mattcyr3342
@mattcyr3342 5 жыл бұрын
@@ironhorseranchhorsetrainin2020 Theyre balanced from the factory, If they werent it would toast crank bearings.
@burdman1954
@burdman1954 5 жыл бұрын
i did one on a mud mower a couple years ago..still works just fine..jus sayin @@ironhorseranchhorsetrainin2020
@froggersgarage5127
@froggersgarage5127 5 жыл бұрын
@@ironhorseranchhorsetrainin2020 rather be welding did it and didn't have to
@93jake81
@93jake81 5 жыл бұрын
@@mattcyr3342 that's with the piston and rod still attached. With the piston and rod off, it would be out of balance
@jakemakes6966
@jakemakes6966 5 жыл бұрын
2:53 I love the little ad you guys threw in for yourself almost made me buy a carb for a engine I don't even have😂😂
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras 4 жыл бұрын
The following video features activities performed in controlled environments by knowledgeable persons. DO NOT attempt to duplicate, re-create, or perform the same or similar activities at home, as personal injury or property damage may result. CARS AND CAMERAS, the persons shown in this video and ANY CONTRIBUTOR, ARE NOT LIABLE FOR ANY such injury or damage. ALL CARSANDCAMERAS CONTENT IS FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY.
@micahdeboer9877
@micahdeboer9877 5 жыл бұрын
If you look in the background at 5:11 you can see that this is actually recorded before the truck cab is primed. Kinda funny. Nice job guys, keep up the good work!
@mikegallander1754
@mikegallander1754 5 жыл бұрын
thought i was trippin
@aidencox9551
@aidencox9551 5 жыл бұрын
Since it has a Suby motor, make it like a Suby, a nice motorcycle exhaust, cool designs, etc...
@midwestmods
@midwestmods 5 жыл бұрын
This is so sick! We want to try this out when we get a tube bender !
@shawnstrode3825
@shawnstrode3825 5 жыл бұрын
It's nice that you're doing lower price projects. You are helping out a neglected group from other you tubers. Garage sales in the spring and fall are great sources of small engines. Sometimes someone might not be able to buy a new carb. Showing how to clean a carb and install a rebuild kit might help.
@Nopitunertv
@Nopitunertv 2 жыл бұрын
I agree but they have some videos of carb work and the functions and how they work.
@holladay7072
@holladay7072 5 жыл бұрын
My 14 hp Subaru is a beast and always starts first pull. Great motors.
@kristianellis1858
@kristianellis1858 5 жыл бұрын
Everytime y'all start welding I squint and look away...lol
@benjaminleslie3155
@benjaminleslie3155 11 күн бұрын
Robin engines are the best for anything and everything, period.
@chaserohwedder8852
@chaserohwedder8852 5 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. My girl thinks I’m weird cause I’m 31 and want to build a go kart. What does she know. 😎
@jeffrey717
@jeffrey717 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 44 and bored with 4wheelers and dirt bikes. These guys are giving me ideas....
@less5406
@less5406 5 жыл бұрын
My wife would tell me to go buy some steel
@elespiritudeltigre9526
@elespiritudeltigre9526 5 жыл бұрын
Im 14 and im modding a weird buggy kart lol
@cavemanvi
@cavemanvi 3 жыл бұрын
you break up with that fun killing twat yet?
@jerrydempsey3490
@jerrydempsey3490 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be 70 in January and I'm building a go-kart. It doesn't matter how old you are, fun is timeless. 😁
@aidencox9551
@aidencox9551 5 жыл бұрын
Make the lighting system work again, the turn signals, 4 ways, tail/brake light, headlights, etc... You should also put one of those slow moving vehicle triangles on it to make it so it's "street legal" for the 'paper boy.'
@Luke-nu1kc
@Luke-nu1kc 5 жыл бұрын
Aiden Cox W
@benwatts2465
@benwatts2465 3 жыл бұрын
You guys have helped me sooooo much over last summer and this winter on my projects Thank you for what y’all do
@cyleburnett7696
@cyleburnett7696 5 жыл бұрын
Subaru engine yes finally! I have one on my go-kart I want to see more builds with them maybe some mods too.
@jackedwards5985
@jackedwards5985 5 жыл бұрын
At school but enjoying cars and cameras
@a.j.sgarage9637
@a.j.sgarage9637 5 жыл бұрын
Same here lmao
@WildfoxFabrication
@WildfoxFabrication 5 жыл бұрын
your story about a 12 year old is literally exactly like my story about a year ago, except instead of a paperboy or mowing lawns I run a small engine repair service. I got a klipper kart and put a stage 1 predator with torque converter and it RIPS
@cskalle1213
@cskalle1213 5 жыл бұрын
``Need a push start?´´ *Isaac* `` nah it'll be allright´´ *sparks from the clutch*
@MrMallen1315
@MrMallen1315 5 жыл бұрын
"treat it like a 12y/o with a paper route and no money" is how every carsandcameras build goes! LOL good stuff keep em coming.
@mystafrawzt
@mystafrawzt 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing Pugly back!!! Looking forward to the next upgrade
@ezl7052
@ezl7052 5 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe it fired on the first pull! 👍 😊 I can't believe the good deals you fellas find and thanks for the review!
@yousit2pee
@yousit2pee 5 жыл бұрын
the way ike wields the recip saw. such confidence 👌🤣
@mancogokarts8176
@mancogokarts8176 5 жыл бұрын
I like your cat and I really like the free/new engine on pugly
@sam-rs8wg
@sam-rs8wg 5 жыл бұрын
That mounting plate's amazing, grabbing two soon.
@albundyrocks2115
@albundyrocks2115 5 жыл бұрын
You guys remind me of me and my cousin growing up. We were a "team" LOL. Many of our adventures centered around model cars/planes, plastic cement, M80s and gasoline. Enough said...let's see your "bloopers" LOL
@bra1nc417d
@bra1nc417d 5 жыл бұрын
I want to see this little monster with better gearing. Awesome video guys!
@small-n-fun2061
@small-n-fun2061 5 жыл бұрын
Yup! Gearing is a bugger for sure, had the same issue on mine! Good video guys
@kaloc.4705
@kaloc.4705 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are crazy.... thats why I love this channel LOL
@richardhill8860
@richardhill8860 2 жыл бұрын
I know this video is old but those Subaru engines are absolute champs with the experience I’ve had with them even though I’ve only had two I have put them through hell and back and they just keep going!
@chrisjohn2164
@chrisjohn2164 5 жыл бұрын
for a great balance in gear ratio I recommend a 10 tooth on the torque converter to a 48 on axle. it gives a decent take off while not sacrificing a lot of top end.
@colinoakley8024
@colinoakley8024 5 жыл бұрын
I had a single seat kart like this (little yellow one) at the summer '18 mini mayhem and it was a beast on the trails at busco! John seemed upset that I didn't bring it for the fall meet lol
@samualmckibben9405
@samualmckibben9405 5 жыл бұрын
Love the vid keep up the good work
@xSPACEGAMERZx
@xSPACEGAMERZx 5 жыл бұрын
Omg pugly is back!! Yesssss!
@doublejranching2245
@doublejranching2245 5 жыл бұрын
Love the build
@toast9758
@toast9758 5 жыл бұрын
with the meet up, I 100% would have gone, hands down. However I simply got bogged down with work. I'm definitely going to attempt to go depending on when that will be. I'm sure I should have my ATV up and running by then
@southronjr1570
@southronjr1570 5 жыл бұрын
I bought my son the smaller version of that a few years ago and swapped the old 110 for a predator 212, added a torque converter and she runs great. It will do donuts like no other until the belts wear in.
@redneckmechanic5639
@redneckmechanic5639 5 жыл бұрын
You guys should do a build with a Briggs and Stratton 1450 I think that would be cool to see I am planning on putting one on my yerf dog 3203. I love watching your videos they have taught me a lot about go karts and how to maintain them.
@skrill69
@skrill69 5 жыл бұрын
Love your channel guys keep up the best work
@HouseOfThe8Strings
@HouseOfThe8Strings 5 жыл бұрын
I built a very sketchy cart from an old frame I found behind a barn once. Had a 3 horse Briggs, clutch, and super high gearing. It couldn't pull out of its own way but on straight stretches it would *literally fly* To the point I had to put disc brakes on it because the stock brakes couldn't even slow it down it was so fast.
@raysoutdoors3558
@raysoutdoors3558 5 жыл бұрын
nice it sounds like a set of drums when it's just setting there running that's awesome 👍👍👍👍
@brokecustoms1832
@brokecustoms1832 5 жыл бұрын
I love your guy's videos!
@thatonedude1815
@thatonedude1815 5 жыл бұрын
John is mentioning the first pull start bc he wishes his miata started that good lol love ya guys
@pussyhunter5150
@pussyhunter5150 3 жыл бұрын
I also change the 110cc engine to a 212cc predator. On my go kart. Mine is blue. Used a 30 series converter. 80 teeth sproket. Runs just fine. Even added a motocycle Bluetooth radio.
@roadkillsf.f.cgarage386
@roadkillsf.f.cgarage386 5 жыл бұрын
Cool swap boys, my current build is a Murray Explorer with a 400cc Honda 2 speed engine, custom rear swing arm and front suspension✌✌✌
@deademotions3
@deademotions3 5 жыл бұрын
nice video idea! I'm 30 and I can barely afford a budget build. too many hobbies.
@blkicemike4857
@blkicemike4857 5 жыл бұрын
I know the feelin bro,..
@JackKnifeJoe
@JackKnifeJoe 5 жыл бұрын
Good to see pugly back
@WayneMiller1110
@WayneMiller1110 5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome people brought welders and stuff so if anybody broke down they didn't have to stop having fun nor did they have to be sad cuz they broke their machine they fixed it right up then in there for free so they could ride all day that is completely awesome
@Two99Point80
@Two99Point80 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for "sparkingly"! Today is now a success because I've learned a new word :D
@chevysteve9043
@chevysteve9043 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see it ripping😎
@sweeneysweeney1901
@sweeneysweeney1901 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see pugly back in the game.
@gideondecker3980
@gideondecker3980 5 жыл бұрын
I love Subaru’s I’ve got a 2000 fox go kart with a 6.5 Subaru and it starts first pull every time
@andrewdaniels3809
@andrewdaniels3809 5 жыл бұрын
If you guys set the next meet up for late spring, I just might be lucky enough to be able to go lol I'd be coming from Michigan so it'd be a bit of a trip, but I'd have to say it'd be worth it
@yotaguy9791
@yotaguy9791 5 жыл бұрын
I’m coming to the next meet! Just got a reliable vehicle to take my toys down there to play for the weekend! Can’t wait to meet y’all I’m coming from Rhode Island
@driver5.0
@driver5.0 5 жыл бұрын
Hate I missed you guys at Busco, we go a lot in the summer. Hope to make the next one. Great video here too.
@gennaroruggieri5502
@gennaroruggieri5502 5 жыл бұрын
I did this swap to my version of Chinese go kart, except I used a predator 212 and basically did a stage one set up to the engine paired up with a torque converter. The thing is pulls like u wouldn’t believe, I clocked it at about 45.
@steeltree-fabricatingandcu3796
@steeltree-fabricatingandcu3796 5 жыл бұрын
That needs a 250 yz motor watercooled lol great video as always
@kristerssprogis4165
@kristerssprogis4165 5 жыл бұрын
Great video keep it up
@99unclebob
@99unclebob 5 жыл бұрын
its so funny to see Ike get in the cart and his knees almost to his chest, Those Subaru air cooled engines are darn near indestructible. Costco sells a pressure washer with a Subaru engine and has electric start, guys will use these for anywhere from 8 -12 hrs and just check fuel and oil let it cool for awhile. they have said really not bad on fuel at all. about a tank a day, 2.4 gallons, even my Honda powered one is no better than it. Looking forward to the next video in puggly AKA paper boy budget,LOL
@itssimple6590
@itssimple6590 5 жыл бұрын
Man I've Been missing out... glad to be back
@nunyabusiness4651
@nunyabusiness4651 5 жыл бұрын
Convert the 107 to a gearbox... Done it before. You take apart the top end. make a cover for the cylinder. remove the cover over the flywheel and the starter. Bolt a gear to the flywheel. bolt your new engine on a plate in front or above this new stand alone transmission with built in clutch and attach them with a chain... it works pretty good till it gives under the increased horsepower and torque.
@mingusbreeze
@mingusbreeze 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, thanks guys.
@Rocketman442-RC
@Rocketman442-RC 5 жыл бұрын
It's allliiivvveee lol. Man that thing is slow to take off but yea that is definitely a high speed pass gear. Need to use the 4wheeler to push it to help get it up to seed faster like they do with the salt flats land speed record cars
@Lee01Mr
@Lee01Mr 5 жыл бұрын
Happy week gentlemen
@small-n-fun2061
@small-n-fun2061 5 жыл бұрын
Hey!! I got recognized as a top fan of carsandcameras on facebook today! Woohoo!
@tallcottoncreations8739
@tallcottoncreations8739 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely my favorite channel
@joeanderson4132
@joeanderson4132 5 жыл бұрын
You guys should partner \ collaborate with rather b welding. Not only are you both sponsored by Go Power Sports, but you both work out of small garages and manage to make some pretty cool stuff. Just my opinion. Keep up the awesome job!!!
@jimmyridinger820
@jimmyridinger820 5 жыл бұрын
13:15 engine spits flames out of straight pipe😂😂😂
@olds97lss
@olds97lss 5 жыл бұрын
At this point, I can't believe you guys even try using a normal clutch anymore. The torque converters just work so much better and make driving the thing a lot better experience overall.
@scorpioscythe4577
@scorpioscythe4577 5 жыл бұрын
I took my governor off my tecumseh 6.0 and it worked good but since I had to rig a spring to the throttle so it will bounce back it was a little too strong. My dad didn’t realize and adjusted the throttle cable too much to where it broke.
@TestECull
@TestECull 5 жыл бұрын
> Paperboy budget > Brand new Mikuni carb from GoPowersports I lol'd.
@TheRealSmithFamily
@TheRealSmithFamily 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Ike, as a bachelor, I think you should be aware of "Downy Wrinkle Reducer". It comes in a spray bottle so you spritz your shirt, tug at it a little, shake and adorn a wrinkle free shirt! ;)
@charlieleonhart1314
@charlieleonhart1314 5 жыл бұрын
How do you know what carburetor to get? And also how do you know what exhaust to get? Why did the clutch spark like that? How do you know what torque converter to get
@sheridantibbetts3920
@sheridantibbetts3920 5 ай бұрын
That 7.0 Subaru engine is almost $900 to buy new, that was a major score
@kingavegarage8722
@kingavegarage8722 5 жыл бұрын
Pugley returns!
@ejs6097
@ejs6097 5 жыл бұрын
SOB! The C-10 is like Christine. It has returned it's self to semi orange again! ; P Great video guys! This is exactly what i am considering for my 13 yr old this year... Thanks guys! : )
@benchapman9667
@benchapman9667 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching your vids, just wondering if Ike has ever seen an iron or even knows how to use one. Haha lol.
@isaacitllbefine7231
@isaacitllbefine7231 5 жыл бұрын
Whats a iron?
@benchapman9667
@benchapman9667 5 жыл бұрын
@@isaacitllbefine7231 It keeps your shirt crease free, you know Iron.
@fkblmwhistlindieselisagoof5925
@fkblmwhistlindieselisagoof5925 5 жыл бұрын
shout out to these guys for the motor 💯👌
@BSC1587
@BSC1587 5 жыл бұрын
The answer to fuel problems isn't always.. "replace the carb". Most of the time the answer is learn to clean and adjust/jet it properly.
@isaacitllbefine7231
@isaacitllbefine7231 5 жыл бұрын
True
@caleballen3511
@caleballen3511 5 жыл бұрын
amen dude
@justgrayyy105
@justgrayyy105 5 жыл бұрын
*Ike and John cuts engine bay parts* Instruction labels: *Am I a joke to you?* Yes, yes you are.
@Dan_Kornfeld
@Dan_Kornfeld 5 жыл бұрын
Would an adjustable back pressure exhaust (i.e. Supertrapp, or similar) work for this particular machine, to give it greater low end torque?
@allenmckinney9533
@allenmckinney9533 5 жыл бұрын
I wanna see puggly turned into a snowmobile. Skies on the front and paddles on the back.
@nicolec7290
@nicolec7290 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 9 1/2 hp Subaru. Runs great
@stevebeavers3754
@stevebeavers3754 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Subaru engine on my pressure washer. Second pump. Loves gas, but strong engine.
@Titinworlowrd
@Titinworlowrd 5 жыл бұрын
God bless yall an keeper goin!!!
@BuildProne
@BuildProne 4 жыл бұрын
you can get a MOLKT 26mm flat slide mikuni clone from amazon for $30 sometimes less. Yes they are good whether you think so or now I'm running one on my motorcycle and it is amazing and works great.
@mowler8042
@mowler8042 5 жыл бұрын
Wish I lived close to you guys would have loved to build a vehicle for your meets
@Zachattackisrad
@Zachattackisrad 5 жыл бұрын
I have this exact engine on my go-kart and it rips. i got it from a power washer
@dominicr2733
@dominicr2733 5 жыл бұрын
I have this same engine on my minibike. Im lookimg into a stage 1 kit but im not sure if theyre the same thing as predator 212s it looks like itll fit
@dronefly6403
@dronefly6403 5 жыл бұрын
nice video.
@jif.6821
@jif.6821 5 жыл бұрын
Too bad Subaru discontinued their manufacture of small industrial engines. To me they are every bit as good as Honda engines. I have a generator and a pressure washer powered by Subaru and they always start right up after sitting for several months. Besides the gearing issues you already noted I would suggest you remove the governor, and also that you get the air cleaner out of the path of any mud and water from the rear right tire maybe by fitting it a 90 degree bend and raising up several inches, maybe with a neopreme rubber elbow from the plumbing section of your local hardware store. Pugly vs Yerf Dog would be a fun video. I think you should rename Pugly "Fugly" or better yet "Fugly Pugly".
@fishingthe910
@fishingthe910 5 жыл бұрын
Had I have known about the meet I would have shown up. Its all good, ill get the next one in the spring with the kids. Getting them all karts for Christmas and am gonna rebuild them with them. May even make some videos of it.
@froggersgarage5127
@froggersgarage5127 5 жыл бұрын
I would watch if you did
@photondebuger45
@photondebuger45 2 жыл бұрын
Duuuuude the sparks good lord
@sourdonkeyjuice
@sourdonkeyjuice 5 жыл бұрын
LOL love how you keep saying the engine my buddy gave me but I have no engines or buddies so rip Edit: No mccooney carburetors or parents either No neighbors or engine plates either
@captainzoll3303
@captainzoll3303 5 жыл бұрын
was expecting an EA81 swap. still not disappointed.
@dylanheadrick3789
@dylanheadrick3789 5 жыл бұрын
I would still really like to see a proper sequential gear atv engine in one of those off road mini buggies! No Ducati engine, but something like a yamaha or honda 300cc. That would become your off road standard for comparison against all else.
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