Cartel Dealer Explains The Cartel & Life in Tijuana

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Cartel Dealer Explains The Cartel & Life in Tijuana | Fernando Puente

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Fernando Puente the cartel homie i always wanted. He got wrapped up in cartel business as a teenager in Tijuana, and began smuggling people, g*ns, and dr*gs across the US border. He went to prison for a year and has since changed his ways. He explains the role of music in the cartels, what cartel parties are like, and how he survived getting kidnapped by Tijuanas most dangerous Cartel... The State Police. Welcome to camp baby!
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Start
01:45 Working for anyone + friends in the cartels
04:06 Border town advantages
07:14 Growing up, Grandma involvement, going to school in US
14:37 Bumping into Paisanos + seeing other minorities
18:01 Mom getting arrested, complicated relationship w/ his father
24:00 Father was a cop + Prison riots and blaming cartels
25:19 “The Fourth Power” Government as cartel, music & grafitti
29:30 Breaking point - enemy becoming friends
34:56 How Fernando started out + handling your own business
39:11 Straddling different worlds at 16 + school life
46:15 Don Sergio - father figure, kidnapping + death
53:59 Death, jealousy & moving in the hood
01:00:56 Constantly in trouble, first time in prison + fighting
01:07:35 Tijuana tagging style, cartel fashion & etiquette
01:11:56 Cartels in US, police brutality + gang violence
01:16:02 Smuggling, stealing visas + practicing for border crossing
01:26:22 Nervous border crossers, Fee + people snitching
01:34:00 Separating Mexican gangs + prison
01:38:58 Fernando’s smuggling stats + scenarios
01:45:11 Craziest ways people cross the border
01:49:22 Separating families was cruel + justifying smuggling
01:54:43 Being in the MCC + probation
02:03:17 Listening to podcasts/music + quitting that life
02:06:45 Tattoos, ear for music + Cali herb is elite
02:11:50 Corridos - music & street life + banned in Mexico
02:21:31 Explaining Gavilan II by Peso Pluma + fake corridos
02:26:00 Chalino Sanchez’s “note” + Narcos recording their own corridos
02:33:53 Chapo’s corridos, El Bordo podcast + Cartel parties
02:47:31 Corruption not lack of firepower + US benefitting too
02:51:17 Starting in the Cartels + controlling industries, sending to Europe
02:57:37 Structure & scariest Cartel
03:02:44 Growing up with Sicarios + Contracts
03:11:57 The Bosses + different rules
03:18:08 Smuggling contraband + business interests
03:22:10 El Chapo arrest, escape, successors & getting too big
03:26:32 What defines a Cartel?
03:28:02 Cartels will always be appealing + people getting out
03:31:42 Friends joining rival cartels + people listening
03:35:42 Way out of this + writing books
03:39:14 Being a tourist in Mexico
03:44:25 Closest Fernando’s life was threatened
03:52:17 Therapy, trauma triggers + crying at movies
04:02:00 Mexican cartels following African religions + looking into faith
04:08:06 Redeeming your legacy
04:10:03 Fernando’s kidnapping
04:26:00 Shooting short movies + leaving the old life behind

Пікірлер: 360

@markgagnon 10 ай бұрын

WELCOME TO CAMP BABY! Thanks for being here I love y'all

@theday2164 10 ай бұрын

Thanks dad

@tattedcodementor1035 6 ай бұрын

Dude I love your channel top tier content/interviews - its good shit man. Flagrant is good too but these 1v1's are pretty sick

@arleneliftschrist6240 9 ай бұрын

Mexican American right here lives in San Diego and this story is so common. First time ever watching this podcast this was amazing you’re such a respectful and awesome interviewer. Thanks for showing our people love!!

@xoxozzz3672 4 ай бұрын

I could save you

@anotherhairlessapewithanop7455 3 ай бұрын

@@xoxozzz3672needa save yourself

@andreweubanks1091 10 ай бұрын

Started watching this pod 2 weeks ago after meaning to check it out. I’ve now seen every episode and cannot wait for the new ones to drop! You’re doing awesome mark. This has the potential to be the next JRE or even better. I think you are one of the best interviewers doing it right now.

@markgagnon 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Andrew I appreciate it bro 🙏🏼

@rickyshehan4485 6 ай бұрын

😮khuy86br58

@ytwatcher69420 10 ай бұрын

mark you actually ask good questions and let your guest speak. can’t wait to see more episodes keep killing it

@markgagnon 10 ай бұрын

Thanks homie

@butcher8839 10 ай бұрын

😊

@carloscarrasco450 10 ай бұрын

Stop being a brendan schaub 😅

@NSGca 9 ай бұрын

Please get off his dk. Unbelievable.....

@shineboxbily3425 7 ай бұрын

@@NSGcawhat exactly is unbelievable? That he gave the guy a compliment? What a crazy thing to do 🤦‍♂️

@miraELCHIEF 10 ай бұрын

People hear San Diego and think great weather and nice beaches but it’s crazy how many of these stories you’ll run into in San Diego growing up in a boarder town like SD was sometimes a crazy experience, respect to him for surviving the lifestyle

@Contreras-z4e 9 ай бұрын

Facts

@hcdaygo 8 ай бұрын

Especially living in the southbay everyone yk most likely doing sum……..

@ElRayDelRio 7 ай бұрын

😈 seen these batos in accion on many occasions firme tiempos 💯

@jmart0714 10 ай бұрын

The difference in podcasting compared to flagrant is very refreshing. This is organized so well and such a relaxing conversation but with so much detail and storytelling. I’ll be sticking around for a while

@MBG-ck9ou 9 ай бұрын

Yeah all that constant screaming in Flagrant and fake loud laughing makes it miserable to listen to unless you are also watching

@arthurraff 7 ай бұрын

He always asks the good questions on flagrant, so it only makes sense that his pod is tighter.

@mikeys1585 10 ай бұрын

Just listened to this entire episode at work. Fernando is an amazing story teller and so well spoken 💪🏼 Both of you keep up the great work and continue to prosper 🤞🏼

@cesarmeza5331 6 ай бұрын

He should be in jail

@brandonmontemayor8178 10 ай бұрын

Hearing this guy shows he was a product of his environment. Good guy, Good morals, Just did what was needed to do. and even after all that. He made it out.

@cesarmeza5331 6 ай бұрын

Nah, he should be in jail. I lived in BC. It's easy to stay out of all that bs

@brandonmontemayor8178 6 ай бұрын

@@cesarmeza5331 I’m not saying he’s not responsible for his actions. He did his time if I remember correctly and grew from it. Clearly, as the interview shows. So what’s your take? In prison for what exactly and for how long? I agree. Take Chiraq for instance. Products of their environments. But they are responsible and have every opportunity to get away from it and should. Most don’t and won’t. This guy did and he’s thriving now. I’d go as far as to say give this man a pass and lock away the ones who never grew from their mistakes. But this guy did. You can do bad things and be a good man. In fact. It’s almost a requirement to be a good man. Being incapable of violence and not being violent doesn’t give you virtue, being deadly and controlling it will.

@cesarmeza5331 6 ай бұрын

@@brandonmontemayor8178 the way I see it is from someone who has seen the bodies hanging from the bridges. He is monetizing his experience, and that just angers and sadnesses me. It feels like glorifying a situation that is still currently causing so much pain and destruction in Mexico. I couldn't even get past a couple of minutes of the conversation, to tell the story with a smile, tells me a lot. Maybe I'm off based and unfair, but I am coming from my own experiences here in Mexico

@KevinLSX619 10 ай бұрын

4 and a half hours wasnt enough haha. The way fernando tells the stories and hearing his views on these politics are always interesting. Saludos Bordo desde National City ✌️

@charlesbunten2588 9 ай бұрын

The city they call nasty !

@505fastlife6 9 ай бұрын

My dad was a career criminal and the way this man feels about his dad is exactly the type of relationship i had with mine.

@nochill7871 10 ай бұрын

I appreciate that your podcast focuses on interesting convos and interesting people. All the celeb gossip + comedy stuff is cool on flagrant, but I appreciate the vibe of this podcast

@ItsDanielRoman 10 ай бұрын

You’re the goat man, this pod is SLEPT on compared to the quality being put out keep up the great work bro been watching since the beginning ! Much love from Tampa

@markgagnon 10 ай бұрын

Thanks homie

@xboxboy6329 10 ай бұрын

CIA: “nah let him cook…” 🎧🎙️

@henzoko5946 10 ай бұрын

Thats if the CIA is working with the cartel

@joserios2703 9 ай бұрын

Don Sergio the true OG for seeing ahead and helping this man stay away from getting involved. What a very interesting story from this young man. Sad to lose a father figure and im wishing him well. Thankful for how good the podcast has been.

@user-bo1gf7bg8v 10 ай бұрын

Epic interview, that dude is a legend, intense storytelling

@markgagnon 10 ай бұрын

Fernando is a beast

@user-bo1gf7bg8v 10 ай бұрын

@@markgagnon truly

@antonio11986 10 ай бұрын

Sir Gags a lot, great interview! You do a great job interviewing your guest and helping them express or word their thoughts. Calling it now, you’re pod will be the next big thing!

@markgagnon 10 ай бұрын

Thanks homie

@CoronaTheVirus 10 ай бұрын

Sir gags a lot 😂😂😂😂

@abrahambarron8615 10 ай бұрын

Great storyteller and a great podcast host who asked all the right questions! This podcast is taking off I can see it. Keep it up Mark 🫡

@gurpy 10 ай бұрын

Love these in depth interview questions. Mark is so tuned in. Excited to see where this journey takes us.

@GenesysRider23 10 ай бұрын

I can see this show BLOWING UP! Please don’t disrespect the flagrancy and leave us. 🙏🏻 This interview was captivating dude. You’re a top-tier interviewer.

@bryanmunoz7375 10 ай бұрын

Great interview from a perspective people don’t hear enough about. Inspiring me to write the story of my dad’s journey here

@alfonsosoto3356 10 ай бұрын

It took me a few days to finish it but what a great story from the homie Fernando Awesome podcast

@stevenguevara2184 10 ай бұрын

I live less than 5 miles from TJ border. It’s definitely a different world around here

@Az-dz7cm 10 ай бұрын

This podcast gets better every episode. You can go over 5hrs on the next one Mark, we down with it lol

@ogflunky 10 ай бұрын

Definitely most underrated podcast. U always ask interesting questions that set up for good answers. Always solid guest too. One of the very few podcast I watch every minute of

@asvpab 10 ай бұрын

What a story, really enjoyed this listening to this guest. I also crossed that border daily as a child and am glad I moved to Texas because I could've ended up like him.

@putosh 9 ай бұрын

Its like anything nobody puts a gun on your head to do anything its so simple as life choices

@GdarkWoW 10 ай бұрын

Mark is doing great, usually I dont pay attention to people that looked like sidekicks and or entourage. That being said I was definitely wrong about Mark. He has tact and knows when to ask/speak and when to let others unfold their story, he is not egoistic like so many people these days. Amazing work sir, looking forward to next episodes and many more to come hopefully.

@verydark..1988 10 ай бұрын

Rephrase your compliments 😂😂😂. He's good on Flagrant.

@HIGH_noon 10 ай бұрын

@@verydark..1988 Mark is doing great... He has tact and knows when to ask/speak and when to let others unfold their story... he is not egoistic like so many people these days... Amazing work sir...

@CornerStoreDrums 10 ай бұрын

Lets go with it! Gagnon NEVER disappoints & always has incredible content. Much respect. 💯

@dentonvisual 10 ай бұрын

Been meaning to check your content out for months mark. Finally watching. I’m so stoked, great vibe - it’s a perfect fit for you. I love it, flagrant multiverse!!!!!

@toenobrake6640 10 ай бұрын

I feel so identified with fer, you are going to be a force in the podworld great job!

@yannickbeaudin3683 10 ай бұрын

Clearly this podcast is gonna grow fucking fast in the couple months. So interesting topics and guests ❤

@EA026 9 ай бұрын

Nice interview. The guy is very funny to watch him. You should bring it back 👍🏽

@travibetes1 10 ай бұрын

4 and a half hours. We got another good one boys 👌

@markgagnon 10 ай бұрын

🥳🥳

@jeremyduran8896 10 ай бұрын

Oh man, that was really 4.5 hours?! Didn’t even notice until the end lol Just found this podcast, and every one I’ve watched has been more solid than the last

@Noooo789 10 ай бұрын

Wow Mark your honestly killing the podcast game!! Keep up the great work I’ve been loving every podcast to date 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@markgagnon 10 ай бұрын

Thanks homie 🙏🏼🙏🏼

@danielthegreat7401 10 ай бұрын

Great conversation, loved the fact that you guys brought up Chalino Sanchez ! Corridos , a lot of people think is just live music or weak music but corridos can be more than that ! . You should mention that on flagrant! . Love you mark ❤️

@EL_VIZUALZ 10 ай бұрын

I just found out you had your own podcast and I’m glad I did. You asked great questions and allowed your guest to speak without interrupting listening to everything he had to say. I really enjoyed this. Ed Calderon would be a great guest for your podcast if you are interested in learning about the cartel.

@user-ee2wc3pz7w 10 ай бұрын

Or he can just read Wikipedia. Ed makes a lot of stuff up. He BS'd his way through the Joe Rogan episodes.

@islewizard 10 ай бұрын

Camp! Man, Mark is doing such a great job with these conversations. Thanks for these.

@markgagnon 10 ай бұрын

Thanks homie

@elcoshii3372 10 ай бұрын

there’s hundreds of ppl like Fernando this is just life 🙌🙌

@jimmyrivera8715 6 ай бұрын

He ain’t ever been in no cartel 🤣😭💯

@jamesmontano2618 10 ай бұрын

Mark you are killing the game!!!! Love the interviews you doing!!!! Never leave Flagrant thoooo my heart couldn't handle it 😢😅❤

@kompressahdnb 10 ай бұрын

Such a great intreview. Good luck out there Fernando.

@2sickjay 10 ай бұрын

2:40:45 those parties are like how he described. I’ve been to one in Mexico where they did it at a soccer field in that area with a stage on both ends of the field . With the best groups playing. I remember being starstruck and my uncle was like “cmon, let’s go backstage” and he took me to meet them. My dad asked the host, “what happens if your enemies show up?” And he replied “they won’t. I got people surrounding this field , they won’t get in.” Everyone is strapped up. Can’t even enjoy the party tbh cause of paranoia

@sC1337Cs 10 ай бұрын

dudes to fucking cool. Four hours from start to finish. GG on getting this guy on

@adamo80nine 10 ай бұрын

Paesano is the same with Italians. You would say it to your fellow Italians. You described it well by saying native.

@kxdzoon9960 10 ай бұрын

Arriba EL BORDO 🎉 SALUDOS DESDE CHICAGO COMPA FER

@albertmartinez561 9 ай бұрын

This dude is legit. Love that he explained the whole chalino sanchez situation with the note. Definitely a dude that does his research! Saludos from Chula vista 💪🏾🙌🏽

@slimpski 10 ай бұрын

This guy should write a book

@putosh 9 ай бұрын

He actually does have something like that telling his stories not sure what platform is called el bordo he also has a podcast mostly in Spanish tho

@lamashtu3449 2 күн бұрын

I love these long episodes. This is kinda like how Rogan used to be , you do a great job.

@isaimontes25 10 ай бұрын

Someone needs to create the Corrido De Gagnon.

@geemarksthespot 9 ай бұрын

One of the best pods! Keep on rockin Mark

@Bokertko 10 ай бұрын

Hey Mark, very good podcast. I'm proud of you.

@mrnadz69 6 ай бұрын

Man I went to middle school and high school with this guy! In Chula Vista! I knew his friends but we never really talked. He was really good at graffiti art. He hung out with all the kids that lived in tj. He was a very decent kid. Doesn’t surprise me that he got involved with all that shit. I remember all these kids bringing drugs to school. Some didn’t even realized they had it on them till they got to school. We never talked or hung out but he was a cool decent kid. Glad to see your ok.

@HueroJack 7 ай бұрын

The interviewer keeps saying "The Cartel" like it's a monolith. Missed the while point of homie saying "el cuarto poder." Shit low key driving me nuts.

@tonisantiago1781 9 ай бұрын

This foo looks and sounds like my homie He is also from TJ/San Diego Shits crazy

@CodClip.bzr56 10 ай бұрын

This was a great episode! Looking forward to more similar content

@flyerCG 10 ай бұрын

Found you from Flagrant and I guess algorythm did the rest😅. Awesome pod Mark🤙

@markgagnon 10 ай бұрын

Thanks homie

@jalengray1107 10 ай бұрын

Those orange mic covers are so fire 🔥

@oklagrowmie 10 ай бұрын

I love the pod man this is so dope! You should get wireless mics like flagrant ..it makes it more of a hang and you don't focus on the mics the whole time..I love watching flagrant because it's like I get sucked into thinking I'm apart of the hang and not iust watching a podcast..the mocs get distracting..

@cristiansalgado9713 2 ай бұрын

My homie told me one time " just cause were gangsters does not meen we have to bad people"

@LetsWork59 9 ай бұрын

Heard fernando on Danny's podcast for the first time, really good guest. I just started listening to your podcast and it's really well put together. Just realized your in flagrant as well. Keep the good content coming.

@bernardoaguilera1265 10 ай бұрын

Great episode brother! I saw you open for Shulz in Oxnard and it was hilarious. Really like the guest selections!

@Inchyladas 10 ай бұрын

This was a great pod man.... ima fan of your stand up seen u live in sf on the infamous tour.... ur a great host as well keep up the good work mark

@DuxFaver 9 ай бұрын

His mom is the real MVP! Props to moms bro, take care of her g

@DAMIANDELEON1313 10 ай бұрын

Man this is a bad ass podcast and a GREAT INTERVIEW...I saw him when he interviewed Conejo and was like WHO IS THIS....HES DOPE GOOD SHIT

@HAMMER_2.2 6 ай бұрын

I love the podcasts this guy has done, really interesting stuff especially with myself being a san diegan and frequent visitor of TJ. Good sh*t!!

@devinmeshach3700 10 ай бұрын

God danm one of my top ten pods absolute fire mark! I agree with others this is just as good as jre interviews

@tomsevcik1792 10 ай бұрын

Damn this was a banger episode. Im glad I found it. Literally got no post notifications at all for this episode. Thanks a lot KZfaq 😅

@lewisward7483 2 ай бұрын

-do you have any kids -“no, uh idk”😂

@NoSteroids1 9 ай бұрын

This is really an amazing channel. Your guest could be just our neighbors son like that is a really sympathic person. Telling a whole different story but is just like you and me even after experiencing all this stuff. It is a strange world we live in and on this channel you get the real contrast. Really interesting content with educational value. Peace

@jimsturt 9 ай бұрын

As someone who has been in the Tijuana area a lot I can tell you the way to do it is not offer the cop cash straight up - if they are tying you up saying there is a problem or even that they're going to take you to jail, you ask if there is a fine you can just pay now... that way they aren't copping to a bribe.

@damnnitsdantee737 10 ай бұрын

4+hr banger 😮‍💨🔥🎉

@jvzqz13 10 ай бұрын

Id rather have this dude on Flagrant then the mexican OT. This dude is solid. 💪

@ShaneMclane-PrivateEye 6 ай бұрын

"Did the cop score any goals in the soccer game?" "Did you ever do any dangerous tags?" Bro, you have a man that ran around with killers, has amazing stories of violence, betrayal, drug and people smuggling, stacks of cash to the sky, kidnappings, and those are the questions you ask? LOL. Great interview though.

@Bronny6 10 ай бұрын

great great video. i could listen to yall talk for forever

@DePalma. 8 ай бұрын

•Paisano =countrymen (lit. definition) •Paisa=Mexican national/born (slang) •Pocho, chicano = Mexican American (slang)

@thxcbo 7 ай бұрын

Chicano culture doesn’t account for every Mexican American. But it the stereotypical

@DePalma. 6 ай бұрын

@@thxcbo pues sí es cierto obviamente, los Chicanos son una pequeña porcentaje de los pochos. Lo que estaba diciendo yo eran los nombres que se usan allá en México para los de raíces mexicanos que viven aquí en Estados Unidos.

@Mrod3399 3 ай бұрын

Don’t know how the Fuck I ran into this podcast but I’m glad I did. Good stuff brother!

@layn3904 7 ай бұрын

What a cool dude! I wanna go to Tj someday!!

@lindatorres7003 10 ай бұрын

This is super dope. Looking forward to watching other episodes

@castelox9996 10 ай бұрын

this was fire fernando is a true tj mexican

@unclep5714 4 ай бұрын

I've already lost count of how many times I've heard "Yeahyeahyeahyeah"

@BrokenStatues7 10 ай бұрын

Damn bro he’s gotta pay someone to translate the podcasts to English I would listen. Probably got some insane stories. He’s a good story teller

@MoongodTDWP 10 ай бұрын

Awesome podcast! Loving the guests

@oscararev6457 9 ай бұрын

Puentes !! Con este podcast. Tijuana and Diego born and raised that border town always down!

@domwick4890 10 ай бұрын

Keep it up mark always got some interesting folks on

@officialeblanc 9 ай бұрын

This guy has me 😂..... He is a good interview. Much respect for you bro. I can tell, you're a solid individual. #pause Take care

@TeenyBopped 10 ай бұрын

this one was fuckin legit. Got me closer with my roots. great pod man

@Stevehboy 10 ай бұрын

Watching from Scotland my friend :) Subscribed!

@Fajita.tamale 6 ай бұрын

Didn’t expect Andrew Schulz’s homie to have such an awesome podcast

@ruby4268 10 ай бұрын

This podcast is seriously some impressive shit! Consistently coming with dope interviews with all walks of life. 😎🍻

@jonathancruz7860 9 ай бұрын

I’m from Orange County (Santa Ana) but went to high school at southwest and it definitely was a different experience even coming from Santa Ana so I relate to this. I was never in that underground life but I would hear the stories.

@cenjaminfranklin 8 ай бұрын

Exclusive interview. This foo is the real deal. 💯💯💯💯💯💯

@ScooterFarts 6 ай бұрын

What immediately struck me is this young mans inability to differentiate between friends vs. acquintances. One of the first rules to growing into a man is to realize the difference. Most people are not and will never be your "friend". Especially in the streets, running and gunning and especially in crime. Acquintances are just people you know, some even your entire life. You may even trust them to a point, but a real friend you can tell anything to. They will do their best to steer you away from harm...not towards it. Even if that means at a cost to themselves. You can look foolish and they will laugh with you...not at you. A friend will carry/raise your spirit not deminish it. A friend you can do simple boring things like fish, go to a movie...they listen. They don't judge you and only want the best for you when they see you at your lowest they will bend over backwards to pick you up. Friends also will come and go...but that's life & lives change. The difference was they grew because of you. Acquintances grow by using you.