to each their own... the C4 is way quieter at 130kph, easyer to drive and you wont feel like you got a sure ass after a long drive, i also preffer the dashboard layout and the speedometer location wasnt really an issue after a few hours of driving... in fact i think its in a more logical spot since it sits higher than the standard spedometer and you see more of the road if you look at it... i dont get your point with the middle rear seat ... you dont get more room than that in any car.... but did you check the chassis becouse VW is pretty bad with their greese coatings and they start to rust in less than a year while citroen has superb factory coating this didnt come out of my ass... i baught 2 tourans and 4 grand picassos for my firm and i had no issues with the citroens other than a faulty batery not to mention my workers preffer to drive them over the VW.... with the VW i hard to change a timing belt, fuel pumps and i had to take them to get the chasis coated so that they are protected from the elements since VW is just crap with that

You never tried C4 picasso. 🙂

​@@RePlayBoy101my colleague's 2017 Touran TDI is going on six years with zero issues while my friends' C4 Picassos have all been in the workshop for engine oil leaks, injector failures, battery charge controller failures and that famous PSA adblue tank failure which cost $2000 a pop in this country. The local owner community is up in arms about it. French cars gonna be French cars.

I sold my 2015 C4 and got a 2018 Touran. No regrets with the decision. My kids would feel sea sick in the c4, in the touran their fine.

Most reviews reinforce this idea. Seems the guy doing the review was more interested in cracking jokes.

@@mikescudder4621 yea Mat needs to do some long distance travel reviews and he wuld quickly pick the citroen over VW XD

Think he was a vw fan. Let's be honest

@@riccidivito2236 or he knows the c4 electrics are shit and full of problems

@@lazycarper7925 6 years with C4 GP 2.0 Blue HDI (136 000 km) and zero problems with electronics.

@@artask your lucky

@@lazycarper7925 you're

Reliability isn't everything

@@CyAn-S It is!!!

@@lde2100 Well for me it isn't. If I had to choose between a car that is avarage in reliability but interesting, or a car with top notch reliability but a lot less interesting, I'd still pick the less reliable car. With interesting I mean good looks on the exterior AND interior, it should be fast and nimble enough, smooth working and current technology for comfort and usability on the road. Yes i'd pick the Picasso over the Touran or Kia any day. But not because of it's reliability.

@@CyAn-S Reliability ranks lower for you than interesting? Ok. Guess you haven't been stranded before on the roadside or in a situation when your car wouldn't start in the morning.

@@mouselim72 nope. I havent. Even my father who has had various cars on lease for 4-5 years each and around 150k KM was never stranded. Even on long journeys. Spoiler alert, none of them were Japanese or Korean and one was even a 2010 BMW 3 series. 0 issues. Not even electronics. So... cars can't be fun or "fancy" and run well? Don't think so. Given the situation, of course, I will always regret buying a reliable car that I don't really enjoy/like more than buying a less reliable car that I love.

Athenastarbrite absolutely best car we just bought one today and its the best big Car we ever owned

@@breakfree1967 howz the citron still going strong. planning to buy family car still can't decide. thank you

@@pabinmagar3520 i have a grand picasso and also had the last gen. Great cars and are very happy. I have the 2015 model and it still looks brand new. I think its a good buy

​@@rsgames4750any major issues with it? Which engine did you go for? Oh, and auto or manual?

We have one!

Why

Citroen grand Picasso 20Hdi is the best, very fast and very fast and sexy!

what engine?, and what mpg do you get on a motorway on a steady run

what mpg do you get on a steady run on the motorway

What did you expect from rubbish german car manufacturer.

@@sl077766 Yes look at those German cars now. 20 years ago u could call them cars now u call them rust buckets. Mercedes, BMW they not what they used to be Volkswagen well its more pricey then it used to be but its still something i wouldnt buy. I always did like the style of the French cars or reliability of Japanese cars. Germans lack style and they not reliable anymore. Its like u need to buy a new one every 5 years if you dont want to spend ure days in a garage after that.

@@sl077766 he bought a diesel, diesels nowadays are restrained by all of the filters and adblue, buying a diesel today makes no sense because all of them have problems.

@@kalczarobert i have had good experiences with VW but i only bought new cars and keep them on average for 8 years and no more than 120,000km.

It is completely normal on a dry clutch gearbox to change the clutches every now and again, this happens on all dct dry. Car companies prefer them over a torque converter because they are cheaper to make and have lower C02 emissions. On more powerful engines 250nm+ dct gearboxes have wet clutches which are very reliable but a bit overkill on a 1.6L engine. I don't see why it's the end of the world to change the clutches which are not expensive every now and again, it makes up for the fuel consumption.

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The Touran is good but nowhere near the Picasso. The Picasso in Exclusive trim is absolutely great in all aspects with amazing features.

It's coming in a few months

Awesome!

+carwow when?

It's cos he can't talk without waving his arms about. Nightmare at the dinner table he is

LOL!!! Hilarious!

i have bought a kia carens 5 place and im realy satisfeid

eagle1effi I have a Citroen grand c4...grwat car but just about the semi-auto gearbox...yuk!

If comfort is important for you, and you have 5 tall people. The Citroën is the best option. Better than S max or other competitors.

@Joy Division 2.0 l TURBO 16V 47 KMH TO 112 KMH IN 4.7 SECONDS. 3rd gear. YOU CAN'T BEAT USING PREMIUM DIESEL! 6 gear manual

I know what you mean, we have a 20 year old Citroen Synergie that has 7 full size, comfortable seats. It has done over 156,000 miles and never broken down and always passes the MOT. None of this modern, electronic shite with DPFs and all that, just an old reliable diesel

Those were the days

Hi Jason, it's on our list to film - should be here in a month or two

Thanks Manos

but the fucker hasn't aged well and he dresses like one fucking tramp.

Shots fired

Agreed. And he kinda looks like The Twilight Zone's Rod Sterling.

+carwow Let me know about these fuckers Carwow and I will shitting deal with them Awoh Rastamouse I mean man seh suh Awoh Desmond's yeah mon y'all remember them I'm ATL Georgia in the states by the way to let y'all know I love my British people more than us yankees don't tell y'all that tee hee bye for now.

Germans fake everything, therefore they are almost never best. Citroen is best in this class hands down.

The Germans use too many options to jack up the price.

Better engines? By faking emissions tests? Driving feel? Ford and French manufacturers are better on that side. Overall quality? Yes, apart from soft-touch plastics, a Toyota is way better mechanically, on the hidden things that the user can't see. Ease-of-use? You never tried to use BMW or Mercedes infotainement. Your money goes into the badge and the uber-marketing.

+pxidr- you think the german cars have higher overall quality but not so about their engines??? My research shows the opposite. You said something about the plastic in German cars being better. My old 2000 Toyota solara SLE V6 was comparable to BMW 525i AS FAR AS FIT N FINISH and leather/wood quality but 525i had a higher performance engine. YES, the Germans make Good engine and have attractive exterior styling. Up until recently, the only BMW that came standard with real wood/leather was the 6 and 7 series. I have a book that tells all the standard/optional equipment on all cars for 2006 and the 3 and 5 series had vinyl upholstery listed as standard but real wood/ leather was optional until you got the higher level 550i and premium pkg on 3s. The only leather on a standard 3 series was the steering wheel. I also found that the leather/wood on my solara aged better then the 06 3 and 5 series I tested. Even the wood/leather on the 745i I tested aged poorly except for the one I found that had the optional upgraded wood/leather pkg. I agree when you said it has a lot to do with the badge.

think just think did you watch the video? if yes why are you saying such dumb thing like the citroen is class leader?

0% Quality. 😂

@@ismailtrbz8427 zero quality? i have one with 300 000 miles. and u?

Long warranty doesn't equate to ultra reliability. A truly reliable car wouldn't need a warranty at all!

Oh yes - we've got those cars booked in for a few months time. Watch this space.

Diesel in Europe are really unreliable because of all the filters and adblue and super expensive to fix, so you are better off.

@@dragospahontu wow I was in Europe twice once in early 80's and the diesel as I remember was good but when I returned in the 90's it was terrible, go figure. Diesel in Alberta is excellent, but it's refined about 16km from my city.

@@timpeterson2738 it's about the engine, they are chocked to death by the filters and ad blue, they can't last more than 300,000km. And they are extremely expensive to repair.

Thanks for the feedback! We'll have an argument about this in the office ;)

F in chat

VW Touran has 5 isofix fittings, so it's a safe bet. Don't know about the other two.

Deni Zg But the VW is unreliable

Citroen I would reccomend. We have 1 (The older generation) and it is doing the job just fine! Ton of space,It's economical (1.6-Diesel 110hp) And has enough torque to pull its weight and beyond.

Otto Nikola Only thing that is unreliable here, is your comment. Cheers

I kinda doubt it. Knowing the 'check engine light' thing that VW and VAG group in particular is known for doesn't sound like 'reliable' to me.

It must Carens

Until you try to sell it and nobody wants it?

you don't buy a car for sell it and there is no problème for sell à picasso 😕

Pierrot DMC12 Le Normand Yes there are problems trying to sell a Picasso or any French car really. So you buy your cars and keep them for 10 years? or do you just dump them as trash at age 3?

my father sold his Picasso without problème ( he sold it to Citroën )

Pierrot DMC12 Le Normand But for what price? They don't hold value well, that's my point.

I think the VW Sportsvan is the best value for money veedub

Is DSG7 DQ200 0CW good?

Jeruelle Apigo Volkswagen for life

Consider the verso. I love it