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Yes, i need my stalks for driving! I want a large instrument cluster with at least 42 instruments! I want a V16 that burns 69 Liters of Diesel every Minute! I want to stay in the past! Please!!!

@@wolfgangpreier9160 Wanting a stalk and physical dial for AC is actually a question of safety not modernity.

@@wolfgangpreier9160They are well established for a reason

once you get used no stalks it becomes second nature

​@@wolfgangpreier9160 Stalks will stay in most cars but Tesla wants to be "diFfEReNt" it's not the paast it's just Tesla being stupid

I wish he would be a bit more scientific about doing the sound tests but this is at least a pretty good general idea of what to expect in terms of noise.

Yes it’s quiet but if you turn ac on above 3 you’ll start to hear the car

@@lazyoliver345 just turn on the radio at that point

​@@lazyoliver345thats the case on almost any car..

​@@lazyoliver345agree.

@@jameswatadza8962maybe the high frequency motor noise contributes to that?

@@cadriver2570More like the LACK of engine/transmission noise that acts as background noise and drowns out any small squeaks/rattles

@@jameswatadza8962 Luxury ICE cars (Mercedes E-class and the like and above) are quieter than majority of EVs. Engine noise is not an issue.

@@Hyrppa95Yes, they are indeed quieter but as already mentioned by someone else. This is often due to the fact that manufacturers learned how to use the noise from the transmission, as well as the engine, and tires to cancel out interior noise. Think if it like noise canceling earphones, where the noise coming in is reduced but often not gone entirely because it is canceled out with a similar but opposite sound wave. When you synchronize the cars harmonics you can basically accomplish the same thing with less sound deadening and other materials. In an EV you don’t have the luxury of having a traditional noise engine or transmission to cancel out other noises. This leads to people often noticing noises in EVs that they would have not noticed before in a gas car. My method for getting rid of this noise is to just turn up the radio!

Tyre noise is still terrible. Barely any improvement.

Also the pitch of the noise is more important than the absolute volume. If they improved in that aspect, it might be quieter even though the decibels are almost the same.

@@Kobriks1 Definitely sounds a lot more muffled and comfortable. Less "plasticy" or clicky.

I was pleasantly surprised he was listening to Burna Boy! 😅👌🔥

2dB is like nothing in terms of human perception though... even though it's close to half as powerful in terms of the SPL...

Every decrease of -6dB = volume goes down by half perceived loudness@@chrisgiancola873

me too...of all the music in the world that could have been used for 3s music speaker test, Burna came to the rescue. Very impressed!👏

Beauty? Wow....If Elon sold sausages made out of dog poo, the Tesla-simps would eat it and claim it was the best sausage they ever had

It's "head-up" display, not "heads-up"

​@robholo-source5617 no, its heads up lmao

Genius.

Either way of spelling it recognized @@dylanhargus2609

@@robholo-source5617 No, both are wrong. It's HUD Truth is it's ALL THREE genius. 📺

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@@ElonMusk-ry2bq Bruh.

Loved seeing Louis get blown too

@@AspirinHexI hear it doesn’t happen often for the poor guy.. 😢

yeah this video didn't blow

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So many better used cars at 40k

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@@Father-klovkoskiIsn’t buying new always a mug’s game?

I got a 2024 Mod4l 3 now, and I can only tell you this about your "dealbreaker": Stalks are overrated.

They designed the car to be optimized for self-driving. I almost never drive manually on highways anymore, and I’m waiting for the city streets subscription to be available in my country. Once that’s released, all driving aside from parking will be done by the car. If you still want to drive manually, I understand the concern.

@@willitbreak5825 sure. But fsd doesn't work in most of the countries yet and it's still on beta phase in USA. In Europe where highland is currently available fsd is not only not available but there's a question of whether a car without any control system other than cameras can be allowed to self drive as it's against current law. The reality is that city driving, which is where you need the stalks most, is going to be done manually for some years still.

@@willitbreak5825 "Optimized for self-driving" or just cost saving? How many Model3 owners actually bought the FSD package?

@@willitbreak5825hahaha sure buddy. Glorified lane keep assist is sooo god. Not like other cars have that or anything… And with the hardware tesla has (barely any) they will not be able to offer self driving in most countries. Oh and the new Smart can park itself, meanwhile the model 3 doesn’t even have parking sensors

I agree about the stalks but for $30 from Amazon and a 10 minute installation I have a speedometer directly in front of me.

Tesla Model 3 has 500bhp.

The fact that the only comparisons he can make are to the BMW (+ $20k) and the Mercedes-Benz (+ $30 - 40k) isn't lost on me whatsoever. The value proposition of the Model 3 hasn't changed at all. That's nice to see!

Non biased? Doubt it. They anounced 20-30% less noise and he gets similar numbers to old model but does not mention that. Definitely biased and most likely paid by tesla. The car is different and better but mostly because of horn, ventilated seats, design and back screen. Not due to comfort or noise lvls, as provenneven by this video

​@@FunkieChickenA 2db decrease is a 37% decrease in loudness

@@Ignacio.Romero so if you have music playing at 10 db and I ask you to lower the sound by 20%, does that not mean lowering it to 8 db?

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$32.5K with federal tax credit (in USA)

@@I_dont_want_an_at haha seems like a sensible option

@@tumbili5375 😂

Tesla always worked hard for that.

TF Got the same problem>)

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What's tire intrusion, please? :o

It's better but still far behind from german luxury cars unfortunatly

How do you signal that you're about to leave a roundabout now?

@@PoneyBirds With the buttons. Not a fan either but can get used to it - people said it gets natural after some time. My main concern is more that earlier there used to be a "feature" where you can switch your driving direction to back and forward quickly when parking, which now isn't possible anymore I'd guess.

@@Murv That has been removed in the "old" model 3 aswell with a new update. You have to come to a complete stop and hit the brake when you want to switch gears.

@@willemlexvanoranje5096 Ah thanks ! Sadly don't drive one yet, only rental through carsharing a couple times so far, so I didn't know that yet. Can imagine it being removed for safety, I'd guess...

Removing shifts and only using buttons makes it ready for self drive in the future, no physical handles all buttons

So "small" roundabouts? When you indicate on approach, then literally don't have *time* to indicate the opposite..... 🤔

​@@rogerstarkey5390- literally don't have time? So...don't have time, you mean.

If you're using the onboard navigation system, won't the computer know that you're going to enter a roundabout, how far around you're going to go, and when you're going to exit? Even at a T-junction, if you're using navigation, it should know when to turn on the indicators (and which one to turn on)

@@s2t4i6n9e most people dont use navigation for most of their journeys

You'll get used to it quickly. I had a similar concern with the 458 but it wasn't an issue at all with small roundabouts.

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Exactly was my wish list as well!

Because there’s no cover for the glass the skin on my head started peeling. I have to wear sunscreen when driving my car and that’s a problem.

@@brandonelam4284 oh wow, that is extreme. See if you find some after market accessory to cover the roof in those hot days.

Literally buy any other brand and get all of that and more. Tesla is garbage.

​@@PotatosPotatoes🤣 damn man you took it personal 🤣

If you get your tires balanced every so often they wouldn’t feel like ass after time.

Right, out of nowhere 😂😂

Tesla Model 3 looked like VW POLO 2100s version.

It accelerated but fortunately didn't escalate. 😅

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Yet surprisingly the ADRs have nothing to say about the indicator control switch despite pages on the indicator lampes themselves (placement , blink rate etc)

I agree. I have a button on my current car's steering wheel for down-shifting and it is a liability when driving. A turn signal event is so ubiquitous that for me, no turn stalk is a reason to not buy this car, even though I love everything else about it.

maybe 1% of people do that 😂

thats why you use the blinker before hand, lmao. this isn't BMW logic here where you use the blinker as you're already half way into the other lane

Maybe the thinking is that you keep your hands at 3:00 and 9:00 the entire time? That said, we don’t have a lot of roundabouts where I live, so I haven’t paid much attention to this use case. I did test drive a Model S yesterday to see if I could get used to the signal light buttons, and they weren’t awful. I think I’d get used to them. I didn’t love the mode selection being moved to the touchscreen, but I suspect I’d get used to that too. I do love my 2021 Model 3 LR AWD, but I also love the sound of many of the improvements announced, so I’m torn.

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I find him incredibly annoying and the channel’s abundance of drag race comparisons to be lazy and useless. He does get good access to cars though. Nothing surprises me as to what is popular on the internet anymore though.

@@KentBuchla that's all you bro

I like his reviews but my god, the amount of pointless and honestly pretty lazy drag racing videos has brought me to unsubscribe

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Where I live this car wouldn't last 5 mins before the suspension and underbody were knackered from all the potholes, drain covers sticking up and generally crap road conditions.

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@@SeanSer Yes, I saw 3db but in any case Matt understated the improvement

Its wrong measuring the combined noise that way. If the most disturbing frequency band only, is lowered, it won’t read on the measuring if, there still is major low frequency noise. You have to do a measuring of the whole 20hz-12khz frequency band to see in what band and how much the decline is, in the disturbing band.

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Wow... you have $301 more than me.

if youve only got $300 saved, i think youve got bigger problems to worry about

I am new to the channel and since he has a British accent I thought mm it's weird he is on the UK driving on the wrong side of the road 😂😂

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​@@ClipsOfVTubers???? What is this to do with motoring? How do you draw Elon Musk's talented employees through this mud? Tesla's not about one person for God sake.

The quoted range figure he gave initially is the WLTP range and not the EPA range. This means that it is grossly exaggerated. Likely he would get about 380 miles of total range if driven properly, which is still better than previously but no where near what he stated.

It isn't possible to go to 0%. The battery management won't allow a total discharge, in order to protect the battery.

@@Brian-om2hh Well, Matt did it several times : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kK5niZWlupnNdpc.html

@@Brian-om2hh That is actually false. You can definitely get the battery to 0% it just won’t be while your driving.

@proXCaliber I don't speak about that but about driving the car til it dies like here in carwow : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kK5niZWlupnNdpc.html

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​@@rogerstarkey5390get lost

What does that mean

What does that mean?

@@sanbetski It means the scale is not linear. An increase of 3 dB is a doubling of the sound wave pressure. So 73 dB is double 70 dB and 76 dB is double 73 dB. So the increase between 73 and 76 dB is bigger than the increase between 70 dB and 73 dB. Wikipedia is your friend.

Ummm... even my 12-year-old knows decibels are logarithmic. However... I will concede that most people think logarithmic has something to do with logs of wood. Blame the education system.

@@brunosmith6925 yep, the education system sucks and people don't care. They want everything easy. Explain it to me like I'm a 5 yr old. And industries abide. 😅

The boring'ness came through too

@@hieroglyph321 Agree, what an utter shit car. Would never own one

Leasing new cars is horrific for the environment, much better to stick with what you have.

@@Archman155 sure because after the lease ends, the car gets dumped into the next river - wait no, it doesn't

@@HoLiSchit it's not about that, getting new car every few years is catastrophic. If you care enough about the environment to shoot yourself in the foot with an EV (which does nothing to help it anyways) surely you'd care enough not to buy a new one every few years. Consumerism is the biggest threat to the environment. The only reason china is the biggest polluter in the world is because we buy all sorts of useless shit off them. You don't need a car every 3 years. It'll last 20 years if you look after that, or even longer

Get a german car instead, you will never go back.

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There is not that significant difference between the 2020 model and 2024 model. Performance is the same. Intiror is closely matched. The front of the exterior is the only significant change. On the back lights, only some bits were removed. Like Watson stated in the video, the ride quality is very similar.

​@@RobloxVideos1234 nah actually the features they added are: new 17 speakers new 19 inch rims slight range increase more efficient design larger rear trunk visual facelift stalks removed rear screen ventilated seats slight wheelbase, width and height mm increase ambient lighting slight suspension improvement speed limit reduced stalks got removed new computer (hardware 4) around 50% of the interior parts are new to cut costs and look better (+ be more like model s)

We have a 2019 and 2023 Model 3. There are small differences, but not in the noise and vibration. The acoustic glass is a marginal improvement. The new interior is nicer. The older car is slightly faster. This brand new refresh seems like a bigger step up.

Lol people who think this car is quieter and more efficient I have some climate change to sell you. 7:50 listen to the guy. There is no difference as you will still feel the rough roads. He keeps saying “I think” it’s quieter lol. Model 3 is best used as a nimble smart go cart with stalks. This fake luxury shit they’re doing is the same Apple iPhone tactics. Ripping every one a new asshole 🤣 clueless masses anyway …Best car to buy is probably 2022 performance or LR with USS…

Tesla has speakers laying around everywhere so they added 2 more to this lineup 😂 He listed stalks being removed as an added feature?? Wtf There’s probably like 3 things… ventilated seats, rear screen , and hardware4 which is trash anyway. Anyone who has any brain cells left can see through this smokescreen. Like I said. Best vehicle right now is probably 22 lr or performance w USS

You know you can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.

There's a button on the steering wheel for Autopilot.

From the video it looked more like 3 db, quite alot

Being logarithmic 3db is huge - and the frequencies reduced are mostly mids and lows as high frequencies are easy to cancel. Proof? Just block your ears and all you hear are lows. 👂🏻

2 to 3 dB doesn't seem like much, but remember that the decibel scale is logarithmic. That means that 3 dB less would be half the sound energy.

Remember. Every 10 dB is 10x louder. So 3 dB is HALF as loud.

I would not agree that a flip phone would be any way accurate enough to prove one way or another. He should get a proper meter.

I wish he would’ve compared a more recent Model 3 that has acoustic glass on the front. It would’ve been more accurate to this

Imagine a reviewer using propper tools not a random smartphone App...

you do know what a decibel meter is right? its a microphone ;) @@hankmoody7521

​@@hankmoody7521yeah using a cheap app instead of proper tools defeats the purpose

The phone app is just as useless as using your ears. It's not accurate at all

In-line with BMW drivers😂

Well most people dont anyways..

It would be interesting to see someone try and pass their driving test whilst driving one of these.

10:43 notice he didn’t indicate right to exit the roundabout as it’s basically impossible with the wheel turned. I hope the UK mandates stalks.

@@christianolsen9781 and they're in the wrong. Pisses me off when I'm trying to join or cross as a pedestrian.

Agreed. Feel the change is a style one over sense. Or designed for Americans only with long highways not Milton Keynes round abouts every few 100ms. This is a step back in design for the sake or cook aesthetics abd minimalism. Utter madness trying to find buttons on an inverted wheel 🤬

Technically you are correct: 3 dB increase in SPL has twice the power in watts. But: Our ears doesn't adhere to any scientific scale... So psychoaccustic scientists has worked out that for any sound to APPEAR twice as loud to a human, it must be around 10 dB's higher.

“Experiments have shown that an increase of somewhere between 5 and 10 dB will sound twice as loud: most people heard 5 dB as less than twice as loud most people heard 10 dB as at least twice as loud”

I was always told that 3 dB difference is the minimum one can tell, 10 dBs are twice as loud.

@@SBM200612 That is excactly what science have found, yes!

Exponential

Might be worth remembering what's underneath. We're comparing the old Model 3 made in the US, with Panasonic NCA battery vs one made in China with Chinese LFP batteries. Same price, completely different product.

It looks fast but only goes 201 now, km/h not mph 😇

@@abraxastulammo9940a 115HP gas car goes 20KMH faster than that

I like your fines wish we could adopt them here in the us. Fines based on income need to be the standard.

As I am not from Norwegian, I have no idea what you are talking about.

@@ProXcaliber Yes, there must be equal punishment for everyone, and that does not mean the same amount of money, but the same percentage (of the salary).

I don't even understand why it is legal to sell a car without an instrument cluster in front of your eyes. It is a safety issue. If you want to control a basic information like the speed you are travelkling you have to look to the central console. It does not make any sense.

​@@pedroduarte4034It really isn't as bad as you make it out to be. To look at your speed, just move your eyes.

@@xxZerosumxx true. I have my Model 3 2021 for 2 years now and it's not a problem at all. It's juist weird in de beginning.

It’s part of Elons master plan to move to FSD - principle is that ultimately you won’t need controls or instruments, so they are gradually reducing and eliminating them. Personally think that’s nuts in a vehicle like the M3 performance - you get one of those to drive, not be driven. Love the HUD in my i4…

@@gothmog2441 totally agree. I think the HUD would be a great addition to the Model 3. The removal of the stalks is also just an insane choice which I can't see will work fine in roundabouts, unless you're actually holding your steering wheel at 10:00 / 14:00 which nobody really does all the time I assume.

The front end looks like an asian cat that's sad because it's missing its tail. Too squinty of a design for the headlights. I'm out.

​@alexmighty9004 not everyone likes sleek design. Do you prefer the old bug eyed duck billed version?

A little bit. I'd prefer the same headlights with the new bumper. I feel like the new headlights are too run of the mill. Audi. @@jamespaul2587

Removing the stalks is a step backward

How tight are your roundabouts? I never had to turn the wheel more than 90 degrees. And I always have trouble with the stalks, because when I am in the roundabout the wheel is turned, so my hands are too far away from the stalks. I have to let go of the wheel and find the stalk, which is annoying and dangerous. Much better to have the buttons at the exact same place all the time.

@@andrasbiro3007 What kind of roundabouts do you have? In a small roundabout you will have to turn the wheel several turns. Especially if you come from a right turn and then go into a roundabout and then out on the last exit. I think you got it backwards. A stalk is ALWAYS at the same location. It never moves. I can find it with my eyes closed. The buttons on the other hand DO move. Depending on the angle of the wheel they will some times be on the left side, some times on top, other times they will be somewhere on the right side, or at the bottom, in which case they will also be inverted. I have been using the new S a lot and can never get used to this, and I can certainly not hit the correct button without looking down fist, because they keep moving around when the wheel is turned. If you're able to intuitively figure out where the buttons are without looking down then you must be some kind of savant or psychic perhaps. Good for you! That's not the case for most people. I'd love to test this by placing some cardboard over the wheel so you can't see it, and then have you turn it a couple of times using the hand over hand movement, and see if you can find the right button on the first attempt when you can't see it. I'm a bit skeptical.. In any case, it's a bad design when a lot of potential buyers find it to be a deal breaker. That's not good for sales. If you look at European comment sections then you'll see that a lot of people are totally turned off by this. It wouldn't surprise me if the EU eventually comes up with some regulation that makes this illegal when they see that it causes people to stop using their indicator lights in roundabouts.

Ferrari doesnt seem to agree with

@@FireWalkMusic 1. I don't think I ever had to. Maybe your country has tiny roundabouts. I know one really small in my area, but I can't remember how much I have to turn the wheel there, I'll pay attention next time. 2. Your hand moves as you turn the wheel. You can't operate the stalks without letting go of the wheel. And if you do that after you already turned the wheel, you have to blindly move your hand back where the stalk is. I don't know how you do it, it's always an issue for me. OK, I drive fast in roundabouts, because it's so much fun to do in a Tesla. 3. The location of the buttons is trivial. They are always at the same place relative to your hand. And you can feel their general position because at every other place there's a hole. And knowing which one is which is easy too. It's the direction you are turning the wheel. The upper one is right and the lower one is left. As for hand-over-hand turning, you do the signaling before you do that. Pretty much the only time you have to signal while turning is in a roundabout. 4. The Model S and X had this setup for a few years now, and I don't remember many complaints. Owners complained about they yoke, but even that wasn't all of them, many love it. The only criticism about the buttons was poor quality, and that was addressed in the new Model 3. And Tesla is not the only one doing this. As the commenter above said, Ferrari has a similar setup, they have big paddle shifters where the stalks would be, so they too have all the controls on the wheel itself.

Your comment gives it away that you actually do not own a MX. But just complaining.

You don't own a MXP dude. Stalks and shifter isn't a terrible thing one week after. I have an MSP and MXP. Only complaint is turn signals and horn.

@@user-wf6cn6zv1j lol it's not hard to believe I own a MXP, they are super cheap and literally everyone can afford them. They are not special. And yes turn signals suck and that's my point, they should have a turn signal stalk so thanks for agreeing with what I said.

@@user-wf6cn6zv1j lack of stalks is very terrible especially at roundabouts

I have an S and love the haptic buttons. Maybe more experienced folks prefer stalks because they’re more used to it? Not suggesting you’re a fossil but you know what I mean.

Idea is the Tesla will indicate for you on future upgrades.

In the not-too-distant future, the car will drive itself - anywhere in the world. In 2018 (at the announcement of Giga Berlin) Musk mentioned that it would not be too long before even the steering wheel was removed. So... There is no point adding features that are soon to be unnecessary. Instead of driving the car, you can relax and watch movies, play games, do some work if you have to... or sleep. What use is a heads-up or stalks when there is no human driver? By not adding these (unnecessary) features, Tesla is living up to its motto: "The best part is no part"... reduces cost and complexity. Here we have a significantly improved car - at the same price as the previous version.

@@brunosmith6925 nothing more funny than Elon Fanboys defending STUPID Tesla decisions.

@@brunosmith6925 it's not happening anytime soon. The brittleness of neural networks will not deliver us safe autonomous vehicles on our existing road network, probably ever, but if ever, not for 20-30 years. The fact that Tesla, Uber, Lyft, etc. keep pushing this autonomous vehicle future is a pipe dream to drive an investor class who don't care about cars or transportation, they just want to speculate and cash in on the next big thing. But autonomous vehicles are not the next big thing. The inherent problems with the technology are nowhere near being overcome. Stop buying Musk's lies, and the lies of the technocrats in general.

Turn signal buttons are dangerous

I think it's even tastier to use ambient lighting just a bit without making the whole cockpit look like a candy. And even then during the night it will make a difference to have it on with the color you chose.