Baxter and Jonathan are discussing lessons learned after the guitar boom 2020 -2022 and the changes between guitar shops and guitar manufactures and the amount of guitars being warehoused and produced,
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@normansecord843226 күн бұрын
Every time I hear "hot tub" I immediately go back to Eddie Murphy doing James Brown's Hot Tub party on SNL. I could see Baxter and Jonathan in gold glitter speedos singing "Hot tub. Gotta get me some Hot tub, Owww Hot Tub..."
@timedwards560026 күн бұрын
Thnx for keeping your shop at the customer level. Keep up your good work for all level of users.
@surinderpunia280427 күн бұрын
Yo! Sean bulked up!! ✌️❤️🎸
@IPLAYLOUD26 күн бұрын
Baxter is still 159 pounds wet.
@timwhite556226 күн бұрын
LoL dude, at this age it's called getting fat.
@adamgarrett475826 күн бұрын
I thought it was me...I thought I had been watchin and commenting on John's content with the wrong name
@YouTubeHandlesAreMoronic25 күн бұрын
I get it, but, it looks to me like Jonathan has actually slimmed down. Good on 'im; it's a tough battle.
@robsteffey60626 күн бұрын
Sitting in my Rv in Texas during hurricane…. Outside damage occurring. Hanging with my dog, guitars and watching yall!
@drippinglass26 күн бұрын
I hope you’re OK!😢
@robsteffey60626 күн бұрын
@@drippinglass some exterior damage and lost a leg of power. But overall good shape. Thankyou!
@Vermonster2325 күн бұрын
I’ll be seeing that weather around Thursday. Take care of yourself and stay safe!
@marclandry452525 күн бұрын
Good luck brother.
@josephkitchen305924 күн бұрын
Be safe out there
@honkytonkinson978726 күн бұрын
My observation is that in the middle of all this insanity we began to think that tube amps were out. Now, at the seeming end, there’s all kinds of new mid tier tube amps, and there seems to be a resurgence of interest in amplifiers, unless the KZfaqs decides next week that amps are out again
@123uzuz26 күн бұрын
Calm down. Stay positive
@honkytonkinson978726 күн бұрын
@@123uzuz it was a concern to me because for some reason in the middle of it I decided to buy an expensive amp and had to wait a while for it to be built. Longer than I wanted to wait. Wondering if it was a mistake. Probably was anyway lol but it sure is a lot of fun
@WithCarePlz26 күн бұрын
Who’s we? You got a french-speaking mouse in your pocket? Well I do, and I’d argue that WE don’t want anything to do with digital crap tones when Princeton Reverbs exist. WE have never heard a digital tone we liked, and we would rather mic up an amp than plug into some digital poo, no matter how convenient.
@tom.m26 күн бұрын
"I do not regret the amps I've bought, but those I did not buy."
@trev397125 күн бұрын
There will always be an appetite for amps from hobbyists who love gear and bar band players for whom small tube amps are an ideal solution. But lots of big acts and road warriors switched to digital and are not looking back.
@PaulEldridge120 күн бұрын
Thanks, makes SO MUCH sense...
@tippss333225 күн бұрын
Always great content!!!! Well done as always guys. Cheers
@Bill-603326 күн бұрын
Good insight into the market. Thanks
@blues6275126 күн бұрын
Good show guys ! 👍🎸
@davegallagher742826 күн бұрын
I am still buying my gear from a guitar shop because they don’t want them to go away. I just can’t see myself buying direct from a manufacturer.
@factualverbage25 күн бұрын
I remember back in the early 90's I used to go to Thoroughbred Music in Tampa and be able to try out many great guitars and amps. That was back when the Matchless amps first came out and they would have one of each model in stock......... as well as Marshals and Kitty Hawks, etc...... they stocked a lot of really great guitars and amps..... Now if I go to the local Guitar Center in another city and they hardly stock anything I would even be interested in....... I only go in there to buy strings once in a while...... hardly anything on the walls I would trade any of my guitars for, or amps........ I ended up buying one of those Sampson era Matchless Tornadoes in '94 and still have it...... Many place don't stock much now......
@mikenadanada743025 күн бұрын
I woke up this morning to a new vid from the boys at Casino Guitars... I'm a guitar player .... ( Iv woken up to worse ) lol.... Have a great Monday everybody 😊...
@kirbyjakescarborough451526 күн бұрын
Sean is no Jonathan... and Jonathan is no Sean. Thanks for both. LOL!!!!! Respects boys! Much love!
@bfcbassist205825 күн бұрын
I love you guys, but “fewer guitars” not less. Get a copy of strunk and white’s elements of style. Great video.
@MikeRyan7725 күн бұрын
Thanks guys, I guess I better save up and purchase my 2nd guitar before November.
@michellebyrnes670625 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to see these new fender products!
@IPLAYLOUD26 күн бұрын
That's how the Clothing biz is. I took orders in Jan/Feb for Fall (Sept/Oct) shipments. (I covered NYS for Champion Athleticwear). We built to those orders plus extra for reorders on what we think will be hot. If something takes off, it's hard to catch up.
@jeffball665626 күн бұрын
Massage chair and guitars? Best guitar shop ever! Happy Endings Guitars 🎸
@Sams91126 күн бұрын
I bought my last two Gibsons from Gibson direct... they don't even sell them at a dealer. New in the box...
@jDominiqueS26 күн бұрын
So basically the manufacturers are unloading the demand risk on retailers...
@tom.m26 күн бұрын
That's nothing new. Why do you think authorized dealers are obligated to buy a certain number of guitars?
@dsmith957225 күн бұрын
It's FEWER guitars. "Less" is for non-discrete things "less air", "less water", "less sand". Fewer is for discrete things "fewer people", "fewer marbles", "fewer morons".
@unabonger77725 күн бұрын
fewer pauls? obviously wrong you are.
@Skoora25 күн бұрын
@@unabonger777 😂 well played sir
@2000SkyView26 күн бұрын
I see shortage of guitars returning
@benallmark967126 күн бұрын
Lol
@UphillGardener-ly5sh26 күн бұрын
"I see shortage of guitars returning" I'm lefty.... it never went away
@daveduffy282325 күн бұрын
There are tons of used gear. When those prices drop,back to normal, there will be lots to choose from.
@benallmark967125 күн бұрын
@@daveduffy2823 tons
@reauxdom25526 күн бұрын
So, fewer guitars are being manufactured. Means less guitars you say. Does that mean with fewer guitars manufactured that builders can upgrade their QC for each instrument? Thanks.
@Shredxcam2225 күн бұрын
Less guitars = less quality.
@chadb595927 күн бұрын
DO NOT play electrics in the hot tub The results could be shocking !!
@72spawndn27 күн бұрын
Unless you are drinking Chernobly
@mitchmatthews671326 күн бұрын
Tell that to Keith Relf.
@damfunk.26 күн бұрын
@@mitchmatthews6713 You mean Reith Kelf
@friedtaters894025 күн бұрын
Can’t wait
@hessex189926 күн бұрын
"People don't think that the free market be like it is but it do" - Milton Friedman I am frankly shocked that the larger manufacturers aren't transitioning to a kanban approach to manufacturing.
@lewisbeeman23 күн бұрын
Hey Baxter, the beard looks great, even from Ireland.
@NappingDad24 күн бұрын
I've only purchased two guitars online, and it was a mixed bag. I bought a Squire bass for my son direct from Fender last Labor Day because it was a killer deal. ($230 shipped for a CV Jazz Bass.). The setup was awful, the fretwork was terrible, and the inner box was coated with dirt and black soot. But you couldn't beat that deal. And last summer I bought another Squier, the 40th Anniversary Vintage Tele from Amazon. I wasn't in the market for a Squier, but I couldn't pass up the deal. Completely opposite experience. The Tele was setup almost perfect out of the box. Just put on new strings and a minor intonation adjustment, and a fun guitar to noodle on (and pass along to the kiddo to learn on).
@rowbags301726 күн бұрын
Ooh - I'm intrigued about what the upcoming "strummy thing" from Fender will be. 😎
@Matt-iz5dc26 күн бұрын
Same! And the sick thing is, I literally just bought a new strat less than two weeks ago yet I’m already wondering what this new purchase might be in my future.
@tomarber648825 күн бұрын
Parts of this felt like a deleted scene from an Anchorman Film. Just two guys, talkin hot tubs, guitars, raccoons and beards.
@robertdavidtingstrom11824 күн бұрын
I saw that AMS had a Epiphone Grabber on their site. Then I saw a video on KZfaq that they were making it for the bass player of Green Day. Then I went back on the website and it was gone! I hope they really make it and sell it!
@nicholasflamel113426 күн бұрын
Sounds to me more like manufacturers creating artificial scarcity so they can keep already overly inflated prices high for a little bit longer. It also sounds like a perfect excuse for manufacturers to lay off workers to save them even more money and put a bunch of hard working people on the unemployment line.
@rosewoodsteel665626 күн бұрын
Just sounds like smart business to me.
@glockbiker126 күн бұрын
Manufacturers have no duty to overproduce.
@nicholasflamel113425 күн бұрын
@@rosewoodsteel6656 "Smart business" is usually not what is best for the workers or the consumers most of the time.
@nicholasflamel113425 күн бұрын
@@glockbiker1 No one said they did.
@DavyRayVideo26 күн бұрын
Guitars relic'd by raccoons. Could be a thing. Just leave some guitars out, next to the marshmallows. They'd learn quick enough.
@davidgreenwood602925 күн бұрын
Would the exciting new thing from fender maybe also have the same Fienne Valley wood that the Suonas do? Fend got a hold of 800 trees, I'm sure some weren't usable, but even 400 trees is a lot of wood to just make guitar tops out of. I'm very curious to see what else they do with it. Probably top an acoustic with it, but what else? A solid body electric would be very appealing.
@steveschefstrom548326 күн бұрын
Im glad i have my strat and tele 65 deluxe reverb times are very different
@DamienTheCat26 күн бұрын
Hope you bought them recently and not a couple years ago
@myronthurman409724 күн бұрын
Been playing guitar 50 plus year's only bought 1 new won 1986 japanese strat with a kahlar trem love buying used at pawnshop's at fleamarket's love serching them out also buildingsome ciagar box and partscasters that how i get my guitar on this is supposed to be fun
@19sickboy7126 күн бұрын
Firsr there's a flooding in building and selling guitars and related equipment., things settle down to a tighter production schedules, then there is the prediction of used equipment( possibly flooding the new market..and I'm assuming there's some kind of surplus of musical equipment that still needs to be sold with the bigger companies..with so much gear already out there how is it going to affect the "end user" down the road in say 2-5 years. Is the gear we buy today going to hold its value at the levels we see today? Is the gear we buy down the road going to spike in price? Are the quality standards going to continue to improve across the board? So many questions to wrap my single minded musician head over.
@EddieLeeFunn26 күн бұрын
If a NPI looks to be a hot one, it might be an idea to coordinate colors with other shops in your general area/region... "Yeah, dude... we don't have it in that hot, new Baby Poo Green Clear Coat Metalflake, but Acme does! Let's give 'em a call and see if they still have it! Dude." There's no price-fixing or whatever, just a cooperative network of product supply. This way, each store only has to buy, say 6, and they coordinate colors...😁
@gwumpyolman25 күн бұрын
I don't know who you are, or how you go on my feed. But I enjoyed it. Good information. Guy in the jacket sounds a bit like Casey Kasem to me.
@steveweiskopf212922 күн бұрын
I won't buy a guitar (higher end) if I can't play three or four to compare it to, so I hope the thin inventory doesn't burn you. Be well and prosper! Though it will make going over Wildwood's stock more humane. 50 335's? I'm only one guy 😅
@benlogan43026 күн бұрын
Companies have to many products in their lines. How many different guitars does Fender make?
@KRAZEEIZATION26 күн бұрын
Different strokes for different folks I guess. I will only use 3 saddle Teles with the basics. Not interested in fancy stuff.
@GreenBlueWalkthrough25 күн бұрын
As an Online creative and primarly a youtuber I learned long ago that a mature bissnusse needs to priotise it's content to be successful in the long term... And in turn be ok with not grabbing every sell. So yeah rock on with being selective about your invtory you guys know your customers best!
@chadwicks_guitar25 күн бұрын
You guys need to give a tutorial in how to play your “hook”. 😎👍
@KRAZEEIZATION26 күн бұрын
I’ve ordered a Les Paul Junior from a big shop and they said Gibson only takes orders 6 months in advance and you don’t know what you’re gonna get. I’m in no hurry as it will be my first ever Gibson and I decided it had to be brand new.
@AndyHess-jy6vx25 күн бұрын
Interesting. What you guys are describing is very similar to Porsche's longtime marketing ethos: "We will build one less than you can sell." Ferrari's scheme is more dire - Probably more like "we will build five less than you can sell." It works for the respective manufacturers, but probably also helps to sell a lot of Corvette's and other sports cars. Law of unintended or perhaps, intended consequences.
@BasementGuitarSuperstar24 күн бұрын
I hope Fenders new releases include a new Toronado. I have a GT and two of the Squier Paranormal ones but I need more!
@brooksroman291825 күн бұрын
Coming from a guitar store employee myself, I like to think I know what the shocking strummy thing and the thing that makes noise coming from Fender later are…🇬🇧⚪️ 👀😎
@The11eleven26 күн бұрын
Pros & Cons: Con = when we(guitar players) get G.A.S. the local shops may not have what we’re looking for, and that’s a real bummer. ‘Possible’ Pro = if the makers could tighten up quality control then this would be a huge benefit. Will we see that as a real benefit/change? Doubtful I’ve just gone through some guitar buying(10~12 guitars total with 3 new guitars that I’m keeping) in May/June/July 2024, and I can tell you I’ve visited two local Las Vegas GCs and ordered online from SW, and I can tell you that QC has been garbage across the board for Fender and Gibson with dead spots on the fretboard even after a professional setup. Had to sell two guitars brand new condition losing $1000 on each one. Others were within the return policy period and were sent/brought back to the retailer.
@mkenific25 күн бұрын
Yo Baxter, my PC is on a desk in the guest bedroom also!
@adam574426 күн бұрын
How many strats and les Paul's can they make same setup on every models
@ShawnCaudill-d9x25 күн бұрын
Sean looks a lot like Johnathon
@CitizenofMelee25 күн бұрын
The Garfield Halloween episode is awesome.
@ovCosmic24 күн бұрын
So instead of prices going down due to an overabundance of supply vs. demand, they're creating artificial scarcity in order to keep the prices inflated?
@craigpetterson396225 күн бұрын
The PRS SE NF3 is the guitar in question. All over YT but not on CG.
@waynedoherty775824 күн бұрын
What’s not to like about it?
@rogertinker181325 күн бұрын
I'm a excited end user😮
@guitarradioshow25 күн бұрын
Ah, but what does that mean for the line worker? Cut hours? Lay offs? Then after the line workers, it goes up the chain, the janitor(s), shipping staff, office personnel? These kinds of changes in factory settings have ripple effects. How these larger manufacturers thought the wave they were riding would go on forever is really unfortunate, now the little guy, the worker will pay that price.
@bluzzjazz26 күн бұрын
Random stat of the day............out of 50ish guitars, I've only purchased 5 of them new. 3 were NOS. My 3 amps on the other hand, were all new.
@silverman16926 күн бұрын
I thought the video was literally about guitar stores not keeping guitar boxes 🤦, and I was down to hear you guys talk about it for 15mins. Great videos as always!
@davidp119224 күн бұрын
A bathtub full of hot water is not a hot tub. 😂😂
@codynewman362625 күн бұрын
Sounds like the days of going in and playing 20 of the exact model to find the best one is gone. Manufactures better make good ones only now with so many brands out there if I don’t love the ones you have in limited stock, I’m grabbing a different model or brand
@joecolgan106826 күн бұрын
Makes sense. Retailers spend more time with musicians so should probably be more in touch with what will “move”
@Scott__C24 күн бұрын
Sounds like they're taking a page from Apple and some other tech companies where they don't just build to build. I believe the term is just in time inventory. End user has been used in IT for decades, it's just coming around to the mainstream for some reason. Same with 'use case'.
@MarkantoneeWilliams-wz9zm26 күн бұрын
❤
@bryancollins679626 күн бұрын
BTW I toss my amp into my hot tub and jump right in. I always get a charge outta that!
@cromBumny26 күн бұрын
Makes sense as there are soooo many used guitars, why by a new one?
@DiegoOrtiz9625 күн бұрын
RIP Sam Ash 😢
@michaeljoyce328626 күн бұрын
Things you play and make’s noise I love riddles. Could it be an accordion?
@johnwashburn379326 күн бұрын
...a banjo?
@christopherfidler301926 күн бұрын
Hey Baxter, Player II series leaked 5 days ago by a Fender dealer in Italy (Slab rosewood, rolled edges, alder/chambered ash/chambered mahogany bodies, Hialeah Yellow, Coral Red, etc.) but none of the news outlets picked it up? it seems every product launch this happens.. do you think it's intentional or accidental? I know you guys probably can't talk about the Player II series but maybe you could make a video about leaks in general? I personally don't see anything wrong in creating buzz about a product early unless the launch window is like 8 months out LOL I suppose you could over-do it.
@bryancollins679626 күн бұрын
What it appears makers are doing is releasing small batches to the market with the hope it generates wider demand. If not, they don't make it.
@beanapalooza661425 күн бұрын
Which PRS are yall talking about ain't so great?? 😅🎉 cause I love my new PRS SE CE 24!!!😅
@travthedad30526 күн бұрын
We need a Casino Guitars in San Antonio Tx or maybe Austin.,Give me a reason to move 😂
@kipawbrey475026 күн бұрын
That's not a hot tub, it's a humidifier.
@misternobody478622 күн бұрын
The best vintage and used…
@jaypaulson518126 күн бұрын
How did Jonathan end up in the one hot tub in Washington?
@MayorMcCheese200026 күн бұрын
These manufacturers have become so big and bloated, with so much invested into their current infrastructure that they've eliminated the possibility for lateral movement. Manufacturing across the world is moving towards on demand, and these guys are 10 years away from paying off their current equipment and even being able to think about changing their processes. They are handcuffed by contracts and agreements, that all they can do is watch as more agile brands take their market share. Their manufacturing processes are indicative of their corporate structure, outdated, antiquated, and uninspired. You look into who owns these brands and makes decisions, and they're people who don't know or care about guitars and music whatsoever.... and it shows... When the owners name is no longer the one on the headstock, quality drops dramatically every time.
@84kjk25 күн бұрын
Who are these “agile” brands taking market share? Vast majority of ppl are still fender and Martin
@MayorMcCheese200025 күн бұрын
@@84kjk you know all these boutique brands? Literally all of those
@NintenDub26 күн бұрын
I didnt know Sean was in this video
@TeeFetch22 күн бұрын
change was promised
@joeyclamz240825 күн бұрын
when will it be safe to try and sell or trade guitars again?
@paulkontz26 күн бұрын
Just pictured Jonathan walking around his house in a robe getting in and out of all his hot tubs with guests in them. Thanks 😏
@TigerPalmer26 күн бұрын
Strummy thing = John Frusciante signature Strat.
@Digosaurus24 күн бұрын
Frusciante Strat and TM Bassman boys? 👀🤫
@hod893126 күн бұрын
No cats for me😂 My guy from sweetwater is still calling me 3 times a week. CS Fender's almost 2k off. On some models.
@garyelmenthaler160826 күн бұрын
I may be wrong, but electric guitars and hot tubs are a bad combination. Easy was to lose customers, literally.
@jeremy_p26 күн бұрын
Did Jonathan change his name? Witness protecion ?
@CheshireTomcat6826 күн бұрын
I prefer draconic to draconian. Just because.
@JediJkB8126 күн бұрын
Hot tubs can be great!
@itslikethesamebutdifferent802026 күн бұрын
They did Jonathan wrong lol. Feel bad for the person watching Casino guitars for the first time and thinking this is sean.
@joshbrianmcgovern513826 күн бұрын
You guys talk a big game but what about a players player guitar. What if I want a super light Tele that reasonates and rings like a bell holding better average tuning and intonation with no dead spots and perfect frets. Riddle me this Batman….what would you suggest
@mileswatkinson813526 күн бұрын
Seanathan? Is that you?
@evalonious26 күн бұрын
Yeah going with this concept, Fender should release a limited line of Squires. Ya and they could call them FSR. Order now, you'll never see that again. 😂❤
@MiguelMakesMusic26 күн бұрын
I'll get skewered but I'm glad to hear they're cutting the # of guitars produced. in a few years it'll be a sellers market again and I'll be able to unload a few without taking a bath.
@timedwards560026 күн бұрын
Colors on guitars are a lack of designs people will really buy
@dandjurdjevicplus116 күн бұрын
“Fewer” guitars - not “less guitars”.
@davidtomkins424222 күн бұрын
Seanathon?
@lewismcnicholas263126 күн бұрын
Fewer 😉
@northmanlogging276926 күн бұрын
wait a minute, so they are finally figuring out that folks just can't sell 20% more every year and they can only sell what they sell? weird
@shane01147126 күн бұрын
You are not talking about that $1600 dollar Tone Master e-waste trash can are you?
@enlat200324 күн бұрын
The market is saturated, too many releases from all brands. Very little innovation other than shiny new colors vs adding new features that would encourage guitar players to invest in yet another guitar.
@anthonypyanoe645226 күн бұрын
I bet they're talking about the bassman tonemaster!
@damham568926 күн бұрын
So its cut supply and increase the prices. Customers lose. As usual.