Responding To Dr Dray’s ‘The Ordinary's Retinols - Are They Worth It?’
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@CassandraBankson 4 жыл бұрын
*Another little update, and it truly disgusts me to have to do this. We are here to talk Skincare - not pass judgment on other people. I never delete comments on my videos because I believe in freedom of speech; people can tear me down and destroy my self-esteem and I’ll find ways to deal with it. But the second people start attacking others, especially for things they are struggling with or that are out of their control such as their voice, religion, race, sexuality, demeanor, mental health, other conditions etc, that’s where I draw the line. Mt comments section is not the place to tear others down. It’s OK to have healthy conversations and disagree with opinions, but it’s not OK to use this area to judge others. Thank you*
@BB-wl8qr 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you said it. So many comments derailed so hard from anything related to your topic. Completely unnecessary. ✌👏
@phoenix. 4 жыл бұрын
80% of comments here are about Dr Dray not about what she said. Contrary to that, I actualy learn from comments on Dr Drays's chanel. And btw what she said in her video is valid! It may be that followers here lack sufficient attention span. Judging by comments they tend to yawn a lot and are easily irritated. 🤷♀️
@carla3693 4 жыл бұрын
The only one getting bullied in this comment section is DrDray people in the comments saying she has an eating disorder and an annoying voice also comments about her sick mother this is not ok. Please do something about your followers.
@domenicodiniro413 4 жыл бұрын
It's discusting some of the things people say about her. She is obviously ill in some way . Why he horrible . She gives amazing advice and helps so so many people. Kudos and props for calling that out.
@evelyndaisy9722 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Hyram 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing such informed thoughts as always Cassandra!! Loved hearing your perspective- I will say, people give The Ordinary a really hard time but the price point is a HUGE aspect that makes me love it so much. So many of my viewers can't afford standard skin care (let alone a dermatologist), and I don't think anyone should be excluded from skin care because of income. And considering the price, they have some really high quality formulas. Both she and you made amazing points! ❤️
@anamarie4155 4 жыл бұрын
My three skin Gods in the same place!
@lenaibrahim7511 4 жыл бұрын
@@anamarie4155 hahaha thats what i was thinking!!
@Mrgregmav 4 жыл бұрын
And here we have the words of a pretend "specialist"!!! It really is the blind leading the blind!!!
@chelseazaydaraensehon1198 4 жыл бұрын
Hyram love you!!!!!!
@apricot3998 4 жыл бұрын
G Mav oh, god fuck yourself
@so3683 4 жыл бұрын
I'll keep using Ordinary, the price is right, my skin tolerates it, and I get great results.
@AD_2314 4 жыл бұрын
S O amen 🙏🏻
@bips66 4 жыл бұрын
S O and in the end this is all that matters
@Womanist 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@rakasudi 4 жыл бұрын
S O great result? Did you compare to the other?
@ashleyjohnston9282 4 жыл бұрын
And ethics, cruelty free and vegan retinol products are very very hard to come by.
@gilbertoorozco5670 4 жыл бұрын
to the people who are implying that dr dray has a vendetta against the ordinary because its “cheap” - this is the same woman whose skin routine consists of a basic ass moisturizer, cleanser, spf, and tret. She continuously advocates for simple, drugstore products that are proven to be effective. Shes anything but “high budget” 🙄 Dont be mad cause shes not feeling your fav brand.
@ThreeDaysGraceGod 4 жыл бұрын
Giilly Sus wow that comment just slayed
@gilbertoorozco5670 4 жыл бұрын
MissErikaWoods and? that has nothing to do with her skin care routine
@reginasemenenko148 4 жыл бұрын
@@pignippleful That doesn't make her any less of a good doctor. She still advises people to use the good drug store products that are budget-friendly. The fact that she has a laser device for her head is her business. It's not like she's pushing everyone to buy the device. I'm sure that I own some things that may seem pricey to some folks and vice-versa. I have tried many things that Dr. Dray has commented on, especially some basic cleansers, moisturizers, oils and sunscreens. They are worked and only one of those items (a sunscreen) was pricey.
@Julie-ik9cr 4 жыл бұрын
It's also funny because in this same video, Dr. Dray compliments several other The Ordinary products, and even says she regularly uses one of them (a moisturizer, I think?). She seems to only dislike their granactive retinol serums. Also, like...if you like TO retinol, and it works for you, then just use it? There is no need to get so defensive because of something a stranger said in a KZfaq video lol
@puncakemix8726 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think she's bashing it because it's each cheap, rather because she finds other products give better results. While they may be more effective for some people, people have various skin conditions and encouraging everyone to get prescription forms that have a higher chance of causing irritation is a bit short-sighted. I would have liked it if she addressed pros/cons of these alternatives, who it caters to (for e.g. highly sensitive skin or the opposite) and if they are vegan/cruelty-free. I find her trustworthy regardless, but she can be quite aggressive when suggesting products.
@TonjeMariEngen 4 жыл бұрын
I love how you explain everything in detail without an attitude. You seem genuinely interested in explaining pros and cons. You care about keeping the consumer informed.
@Kat-qr7hv 4 жыл бұрын
Tonje Mari Engen honestly I can’t stand dr dray because she always comes off condescending imo. Whereas Cassandra is just informative about products.
@monochromebunni3887 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kat-qr7hv I like Dr. Dray but I gotta admit you're not wrong lmao
@Kat-qr7hv 3 жыл бұрын
supps your comment sounds like a dr dray burner account. Ya know, condescending.
@kats.5958 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, you should see her other Dr. Dray video, people were not pleased lol
@mayamorabito1669 3 жыл бұрын
"without an attitude"? I find her extremely bitchy in general.
@user-kd4rt1lf7t 4 жыл бұрын
why are people making comments about why they don't like Dr Dray when that has nothing to do with this video
@evelyn_minou 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I feel like some people just comment under the guise of caring for her simply to satisfy a need for constant validation of their own life choices.
@janetsusan8633 4 жыл бұрын
Because 😑
@candice44441 4 жыл бұрын
The sad part is that Dr.Dray usually doesn't criticize other people's skin care advise.
@aprioriontoast704 3 жыл бұрын
I like Dr Dray but I'm pissed at her promoting the overpriced Neutrogena anti wrinkle cream which includes fragrance, the same ,vit a as the ordinary and they test on animals yet she gives NO honest critique of it. Shes meant to be a vegan I don't get it =(
@user-kd4rt1lf7t 3 жыл бұрын
@@aprioriontoast704 she advertises the fragrance-free one. Also, there is no comparison between the years of research and funding that go into a neutrogena retinol vs the ordinary's product, they are worlds apart. Plus, it is companies like Johnson & Johnson, who own neutrogena, and Loreal who are actively spending money on introducing cruelty free testing methods in China. In fact, it is due to the work of L'oreal that China will stop animal testing cosmetic products.
@BevvyIsTheBest 3 жыл бұрын
I love dr dray's personality, the way she is so blunt is so funny to me lol
@yoren9204 3 жыл бұрын
lol ikr i love when she pointed out ISNT TOMATO A PLANT THEN??!! i laughed so hard🙂
@yv9526 3 жыл бұрын
SAME lol @drdray
@sapir6515 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Dray very honest, doesn't afraid to tell what she beliving at and what not
@KS-nf6sb 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Dray is a well educated DOCTOR. She knows what she’s talking about. If you’ve seen her videos you’ll know she doesn’t stick behind a product because of hype OR even if she’s used it and liked it. She only recommends products that have some kind of scientific evidence behind them, and if they’re fragrance free. She’s also said a million times what works for one person may not work for another. The comments bashing her are ridiculous and cruel.
@Kueytwo 4 жыл бұрын
Dr Dray really has excellent KZfaq skin care content. I really enjoy her drugstore reviews too.
@KS-nf6sb 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus Martinez I disagree but ok. Her recommendations changed my skin for the better and saved my wallet. Of course different dermatologists will have different opinions, but a lot of the ones I follow recommend the same simple drugstore products. Also, all of her opinions are backed by medical research and journals, and she cites everything in her description box. So I choose to believe she’s knowledgable.
@accountfortruthfulreviews677 4 жыл бұрын
She is a SKIN doctor, not someone who studied the ingredients and how the interact with each other, or even makes them. There is a dermatologist who I have been following for a long time, all his patients over 50 look like they are in their middle 30's or even younger, he uses the ordinary retinol and many others which Dr Dray said was bad, but it is not.
@KS-nf6sb 4 жыл бұрын
account for truthful reviews she’s definitely studied the ingredients. That’s a part of her 12 years of schooling. And she never said the ordinary was terrible, she said there’s no research to back up their claims. Y’all need to chill tf out. If a product is working for you continue to use it, but don’t bash others if they don’t agree.
@theonedenny 4 жыл бұрын
Love Dr Dray, but she also recommends products with denatured alcohol.
@jillybean18 4 жыл бұрын
As healthcare providers, we are taught and truly believe in only recommending products that are evidence-based. Lots of testing, lots of trials, and peer reviews etc. it’s so much more important than you think. So for all saying “it works for my skin blah blah” I mean yeah same. I use the .5 retinol with Squalane. But she’s right about it being a problem for lack of research.
@Marilynefc 4 жыл бұрын
Jillian Gilbert 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼exactly
@ingiewingie 4 жыл бұрын
Amen
@poweredman 4 жыл бұрын
@Clementina Yael Severina M. Exactly. That's what I use as well.
@jillybean18 4 жыл бұрын
Clementina Yael Severina M. Agreed. I use the .5 bc it’s my first time using a retinol. My skin is not sensitive whatsoever so I will be moving to the 1% soon. I really love it so far
@carla3693 4 жыл бұрын
Well said 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@melingitis 4 жыл бұрын
Cassandra: "this is all bullshit if you don't take care of your body" Me: just ordered $30 of TO products, but eating a buffalo chicken and blue cheese salad ... *nervous sweating*
@aylabilse3697 4 жыл бұрын
lol, that is so me but figure might as well do one thing in my life right and buy the right products. Something I can more easily control... or like to do
@ClickUp 4 жыл бұрын
Girl, same
@positivevibes709 4 жыл бұрын
Eating pizza rolls and watching skin care I’m with u on that 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@fashionovawigs 3 жыл бұрын
The lettuce cancels out the unhealthness
@ineedabeachnow7205 3 жыл бұрын
Very funny! Lol
@igotfilthyways 4 жыл бұрын
I had severe cystic acne and everything I tried didn’t work. Not even Curology. On my last ditch effort I tried the ordinary’s 2% granactive emulsion. I noticed less cystic acne but not completely gone. After finishing the bottle i moved up to the 5% in squalane and I haven’t had acne since. My skin is clear & glowing, now I am working on lightening hyperpigmentation!
@sophieollier4596 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think the 5% would be ok for someone just starting to use Retinoid?
@deaputri3016 4 жыл бұрын
@sophie better start with a lower percentage. Like the 2% granactive retinoids because retinoid tends to dry out your skin, better combine it hydrating toner
@igotfilthyways 4 жыл бұрын
sophie ollier no your skin needs to build up to the strength. As they said, the 1% in squalane is stronger than the 2% emulsion. Start with a low percentage and only use it a few days and see how your skin reacts. Remember that it may purge a little so don’t give up hope. Once your skin is used to retinol you can move up percentages.
@helikopter1231 4 жыл бұрын
I started using the 2% emulsion, but my skin actually is turning oilier and I've noticed some new pimples! Is this normal?
@igotfilthyways 4 жыл бұрын
helikopter1231 do you moisturize properly? A purge is normal with the introduction of retinol. Research it!
@aprilcoulby5333 4 жыл бұрын
If I could like this video a million times I would! Such a HEALTHY and PRODUCTIVE way to have a difference of opinion! This is what we need to see more of! You can still love someone and validate someone and not agree with everything they say and do. It’s what makes us better as a whole to be able to talk about it and grow! Well done!!!
@adelebrown4526 4 жыл бұрын
I always assumed The Ordinary retinols are good for beginners and get used to using retinols. Nothing close to Rx retinol. But isn't that the point? So beginners can explore retinol without committing to the irritation of Retin A first?
@marcia6010 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. RETINOL. Dr Dray criticized the unfounded claims for the GRANACTIVE RETINOIDS.
@marcia6010 4 жыл бұрын
Apollo Mercier I know that, but it's better to have used a 1% retinol before tret than nothing at all. At the very least you learn to take care of your skin while it's sensitized, dry and peeling.
@melaniereisner8375 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcia6010 she didn't address the retinol with squalene alone. She makes them seem ineffective, as same as gha.
@jenellyparra6823 4 жыл бұрын
I am sorry but the ordinary claims this retinol is practically tretinoin but without the peeling and bla bla. The claims are INSANE, I'm not saying it doesn't work but they need to be more sober about what they claim
@marcia6010 4 жыл бұрын
*GRANACTIVE RETINOID. Those baseless claims are about the granactive retinoids. Retinol actually has a lot of scientific evidence behind it.
@MyLoVeLyMaN 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe they're too enthusiastic about the granactive, but nowhere is claimed that they are tretinoin..
@velle2924 4 жыл бұрын
MyLoVeLyMaN she said that they claim that it is LIKE Tretinoin.
@MyLoVeLyMaN 4 жыл бұрын
@@velle2924 never I have seen a claim like this on deciem website.
@craigsmith5039 4 жыл бұрын
I have never come across such a claim, or even anything similar, on their website or any other official source. Rather they claim it is better than other non-prescription forms of retinoid - "HPR is a highly-advanced form of retinoid which is, in fact, a non-prescription ester of all-trans direct retinoic acid that offers a multi-fold better effect against signs of aging than retinol, retinyl palmitate and nearly all other forms of non-prescription retinoid"
@melonmelon7427 4 жыл бұрын
Estee Lauder is like the plague of decent cosmetics. They find the decent brands, they buy them and they corrupt them ☠️
@manicpanic8226 3 жыл бұрын
omg so true
@kellly4982 3 жыл бұрын
they bought the ordinary lol
@fearless6947 Жыл бұрын
@@kellly4982 i hope they don't mess with the formular. I have noticed prices going up :(
@hugobautista1086 11 ай бұрын
It is not only them is all companies going after our money, it is even on food products
@lisahayes3648 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think because tretinoin takes a bit of getting used to is a reason not to use it. It is totally worth it in the end.
@PinCushionQueen 4 жыл бұрын
Lisa Hayes I agree .
@tiffanikay93 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. The benefits far outweigh the period of discomfort!
@jennivee5621 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@thainguyenvanquoc2729 4 жыл бұрын
Some peolle here will never be satisfied. She's a Doctor with a PhD degree, so an MD. PhD, so someone with not only clinical but also research experiences. Since she's not in her clinic giving personal advice, she doesn't have to care about any individual's anecdotal experiences, since that is not what clinical science is about. I think it's awesome that she only recommends products with the highest level of peer-reviewed evidence available; that's the only way to properly recommend something when you are watched by thousands of people. She's also transparent when she likes something purely for how it feels or smells. Make your own decisions and visit your own dermatologists should something bad happen. I think Dr. Dray is far from being perfect, but regarding skincare science, it's a bit ridiculous when people use anecdotes to dimiss her opinions as an expert.
@aprioriontoast704 3 жыл бұрын
I like Dr Dray but I'm pissed at her promoting the overpriced Neutrogena anti wrinkle cream which includes fragrance, the same ,vit a as the ordinary and they test on animals yet she gives NO honest critique of it. Shes meant to be a vegan I don't get it =(
@linda.harwood 3 жыл бұрын
@@aprioriontoast704 she specifically says to get the fragrance free version of Neutrogena rapid wrinkle repair cream. Dr Dray is consistently anti fragrance from the videos I've watched.
@aprioriontoast704 3 жыл бұрын
@@linda.harwood Oh my mistake , I didn't know there was two! I still wish she wouldn't promote brands that test on animals =(
@punamgupta8851 3 жыл бұрын
@@aprioriontoast704 wait, why wouldn't she ? She doesn't have to adhere to your principles just because you want to. If you wan't cruelty free brands, search for them sonewhere instead of bashing a dermatologist on youtube based on your half assed information. 🙄
@aprioriontoast704 3 жыл бұрын
@@punamgupta8851 They aren't just my principles they are moral principles everyone should be concerned about because they harm others you shouldn't abuse and exploit animals for vanity and she said she was vegan so this should concern her more. Moral relativism is not a good look if everyone pick and choosed what immoral actions where moral to them when it was more convenient the world be a worse off place , that's how slavery existed "my principles, ME,ME,ME never mind others who are harmed by actions never mind rabbits and rats injected with chemicals in their eyes then painfully gassed when they are half dead, never mind being a better person and reducing needless suffering on those at the mercy of powerful oppressors. pfffffft what about me getting to buy a more expensive product with the same ingredients over a cheaper product with the same ingredients that is cruelty free " Get over yourself ,your actions harm others so *you* have to take responsibility out of rational moral implications everyone should be held accountable for the supply and demand of cruelty esp someone who claims to be vegan.
@mariaibrahim03 4 жыл бұрын
I love it when I try to educate myself regarding skincare and seeing people have different opinions so that I don't just learn from one single perspective
@hithere8140 4 жыл бұрын
Great response! 2 perspectives, both valid yet neither contradicting. Comes down to opinion and preference. Thank you for an awesome exchange of ideas!! 👏
@andreaencinas8987 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing a healthy and educated video with your opinions. I highly enjoy your videos, I'm learning so much! Makes me want to look onto the science of skincare more.
@birdheartt 4 жыл бұрын
As someone that can’t afford to go to the dermatologist for special medical grade skincare I am so thankful for brands like the ordinary! Love your videos !
@justStardust940 4 жыл бұрын
i don't think she took a dump on the product itself but on the claims it makes
@quidproquo82 4 жыл бұрын
It's crazy that actual tretinoin is like 5 bucks in many places around the world. It's insane that a tube runs $200 plus in the US.
@caitieeeee 4 жыл бұрын
ah, love private health insurance!
@julia-ex7im 4 жыл бұрын
it's 7 dollars online without a prescription
@kats.5958 3 жыл бұрын
@@julia-ex7im from where and what percent
@alexavasquez1992 3 жыл бұрын
@@julia-ex7im dude, from where?
@julia-ex7im 3 жыл бұрын
@@kats.5958 reliablerxpharmacy.com it has all the percents, search retino A cream. It's legit, it took me a while to commit and buy it but i bought my first tube in the summer and seems to have started working for me.
@quixotic7460 4 жыл бұрын
The Ordinary retinoid products are nice for what they are, but they dont compare to tretinoin. I've used both and tret is in a whole other league
@Valeriaa6240 3 жыл бұрын
I like how hyram Cassandra and sooo many other ppl talk abt dr dray and she dosent give a shit like 😂😂😂 it's just so funny she dosent even mention them .....
@politicallyincorrectbeing8201 3 жыл бұрын
Avoiding drama is the best thing you can do on social media
@ellisha9034 3 жыл бұрын
so true, Dr Dray is such a mood hahaha
@MshedPotato 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking this! I love her so much. I will always trust a board certified dermatologist, especially one who is just trying to educate the general consumer.
@amethystluna2999 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly💯💯but that's a good thing avoiding drama
@rochiwang1915 3 жыл бұрын
If an individual can get through medical school, get accepted to one of the most competitive residency programs, and learned to bite their tongue when they are pimped/bullied by their attendings for >8 years, click bait video responses from influencers without any medical training probably don’t phase them. (Coming from a provider)
@craigsmith5039 4 жыл бұрын
I mentioned this on her video and will repeat it here - while I like Dr Dray one thing that annoys me is her stance on evidence. I totally agree it is important to have evidence for efficacy claims. But she tends to equate a lack of evidence with a lack of efficacy, which does not have to be the case. She had people in the comments questioning their own use of the granactive retinoid - one person even commented that they thought they should stop using it, even though it was the only product that had cleared their acne and was providing a lot of benefits. We had to assure her that she had evidence - her own experience was evidence. Of course, anecdotal evidence is not going to fly for the whole community, but if a product is working for you then a lack of scientific evidence is really not that big a deal. Dr Dray also flip flops a lot - one video she claimed the Ordinary NMF was not good because it didn't contain ceramides (rather, it contains what they call 'ceramide precursors' which is a blend of amino acids). A few months later she said she really liked it. I asked her about the change of opinion and she stated that she had read evidence showing that topically applied amino acids actually does have a lot of benefits. I think people need to realise that she is a dermatologist, not a cosmetic scientist or formulator. She deals with people who have problems with their skin, so of course she is going to be more focussed on medical treatments. On the other hand, a cosmetic scientist is going to be more innovative and experimental, and the reputable ones will do efficacy tests - in fact big companies like Estee Lauder or Loreal are going to want to know if a new ingredient or formulation is going to work so they will test. Of course they will be very selective with providing evidence for the products they bring to market but that is just good marketing sense
@mattc236 4 жыл бұрын
Craig Smith Well she's a dermatologists and has been studying for 12 years and still learning. She also mentions things with evidence.
@ThreeDaysGraceGod 4 жыл бұрын
I don't really agree with this statement... Essential oils were used heavily for a long time (and still are!) and resulted in problems with people's skin long-term. Many companies touted their effectiveness in giving a fresher feeling and exfoliation, which they do, but at a cost. Without the scientific literature to back up the overall positive claims, you end up with a product that can ruin your skin. A lot of people continually use these products and don't know that they are bad for your skin (I didn't in the beginning that's for sure). While this is an extreme example, and the granactive isn't something that is dangerous (most likely), scientific evidence is important when making claims. And TO is simply not delivering this. She did not tell people to stop using the product, just that the whole granactive part is baseless and that the important ingredient is the undisclosed percentage of encapsulated retinol.
@boofriedmann2980 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Well said
@SF-yh2ot 4 жыл бұрын
Craig Smith thank you.
@shiprasingh8385 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree less. Lot of products recommended by Dr Dray has burned my skin, doesn't mean they are bad. It's just they are not meant for my skin. As far as Granactive emulsion is concerned for me it has done wonders. I did start with tretnoin but not using it anymore since it causes mouth sores.
@sohatanwirkhan583 3 жыл бұрын
Cassandra, this video is so, SO well done. This is a master class in critique. Good on you! Thank you so much for your hard work and dedication. Love you!
@staceyking8796 4 жыл бұрын
even though you differ in opinion, it's so nice to see how much you respect dr dray. both of you are my favourite skincare channels, because you actually know about skin and biology, rather than just skincare formulations. hope you're staying safe and sane. love from australia :)
@loralynablan8874 4 жыл бұрын
That granactive made so much into my skin. It help with my hormonal acne and scars as well. It goes well with the niacinamide of The Ordinary
@Manon_Ferrari 4 жыл бұрын
Which one did you get to treat hormonal acne? :)
@loralynablan8874 4 жыл бұрын
Manon Ferrari the one in granactive emulsion 2% it's hard to find stock of that nowadays i can't restock
@illiana.l 3 жыл бұрын
Do you put the niacinamide first?
@mng826 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Cosmetic chemist here working for one of the companies you mentioned! We definitely do extensive clinical studies and stability for products we bring out to market, this to ensure long term efficacy and quality. While this is good marketing, we also pride ourselves in delivering actual results to consumers especially if they're paying prestige prices. Some companies do not take the extra hurdles of testing their products and are quick to bring them to market -so essentially the consumers are the initial test panelists 😅. Dr. D is simply referring to credible evidence based products that have proven long term benefits vs. products with little to no studies/anecdotal evidence. For products that have no real data published, you will just need to take their claims with a grain of salt. Just be informed and choose whichever products you are willing to take a leap of faith for :)
@kimcodella6100 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your straightforward approach. It really helps negotiate the skincare minefield!
@linzbee123123 4 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this girl! Thanks for your take and advice on it ❤️xoxo
@iHeartTaylorS1 4 жыл бұрын
My skin is the clearest it’s ever been with using The Ordinary!! I love it
@kaylareeds 4 жыл бұрын
SAME
@sappho3000 4 жыл бұрын
Miranda Luu same girl
@aleasoothsayer7292 4 жыл бұрын
I just got some products today! After the first use I could already see the texture of my skin was smoother and for the first time in my life...less oily! Can't wait to see what happens.
@stephgerber9551 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad they worked for you. They made my skin worse. Stoped using them and started using Paulas Choice and my skin is looking so much better.
@iHeartTaylorS1 4 жыл бұрын
steph gerber I’m glad you found something that works for you!
@kellylehman7159 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. You are a much needed voice of reason. It doesn't matter what you're hearing about online, there is always going to be an opposing view that makes you feel like an idiot. I value your opinion. Thank you.
@TheDailyDanny 4 жыл бұрын
i love how you were respectful & yet was able to express ur disagreements!❤️
@rumtroll3123 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty good explaint! 👍 And really good to keep track off & listen to, with all visuals and back infos. THANKS A LOT! 🥰🥰😗
@magdalomeli2177 4 жыл бұрын
Dearest Cassandra i just love how you stand by your research, experience and belief. As you well mentioned- freedom of speech platform. And as with everything in life, we have the choice in our own hands. 😻
@redvorchannel 4 жыл бұрын
I was prescribed most of those things Dray suggested and it all tore my skin up so bad! It burned so bad and was so dry and just hurt. I'm 40 and just recently found the Ordinary through your channel and guess what? It has been THE ONLY THING TO WORK FOR MY SKIN!!! My acne is rapidly clearing up and my skin has never felt so soft and smooth! I've spent thousands on skincare before finding the Ordinary and I now swear by it.
@britnysnyder4991 4 жыл бұрын
What have you been using?
@redvorchannel 4 жыл бұрын
@@britnysnyder4991 so far the Niacinamide 10% Zinc 1% and just got the AHA 30% BHA 2% and I cannot beleive the change in my skin. I have never saw results overnight before this. I'm not saying it cleared overnight but it absolutely improved and keeps improving. I also got the Squalen cleanser but I dont care for it and realized Kassandra doesnt either (after I bought it lol) I do like Murads salicylic acid cleanser though.
@anthecrawford3957 4 жыл бұрын
@@redvorchannel you bought stuff Dr Dray recommended for acne and it made it worse? That sucks! seems like using just niacinamide has already worked for you!
@redvorchannel 4 жыл бұрын
@@anthecrawford3957 yes but I didn't try it because she recommended it. It was before I ever watched youtube. Since searching youtube and finding Kassandra I've gone with things she likes and have had great luck so I will continue to listen to her and do my own research as well. Also yes list the niacinamide helped so much but adding that AHA peel really did the trick. My skin is dang near clear now.
@madalushkar1748 4 жыл бұрын
redvor channel 1076 that’s crazy! I just started using both the Aha and bha mask with the niacinamide and zinc. I love it so much
@maddisongugino5487 4 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this video, soo soooo glad you did a video on this. I pretty much listen to everything you and DR dray talk about.
@1tinkerlena 4 жыл бұрын
I love love love how you defused this situation. Well done you are my fave
@ericaangeles1570 4 жыл бұрын
My Mom has been using that ordinary retinol for almost 2 years. There's improvement but barely noticeable. She said it feels good on her skin. She's on prescription tretinoin right now. Her skin is amazing.
@velle2924 4 жыл бұрын
Erica Angeles Id guess the conversion for some people is lag and they can’t get the benefits of retinol. It also depends on how much retinol is in the products she uses. Many companies don’t disclose the amount of retinol in their products and If it’s too low of a concentration I wouldn’t expect it to do much. Might switch to adapalene if you can’t get tretinoin.
@LauralHill77 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@ggwhy224 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I can see huge improvement in my smile lines and under eye wrinkles after using around half a bottle of the granactive retinoid 2% emulsion. It also prepares me for transitioning to its 0.2% retinol in Squalane as I have experienced zero irritation whatsoever upon the switch. I trust physical results over scientific theories. The number of times I witnessed a huge discrepancy in what a doctor claims and what’s the actual effect/ result is r insane
@simomis4 Ай бұрын
I used the granactive for a month and no result. Later switched to trifarotene and saw big results. So, what now? You believe in experience not science. Throw every product in the trash. A grown ass man.
@lordcyrildalawangbayan-her4275 4 жыл бұрын
You are so respectful of her. Thank you. I love Dr. Dray.
@jonanah 4 жыл бұрын
Wow this was so thorough and informative, thank you!
@Smiirkwood 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using the Ordinary’s Retinol 1% for about 4 months now and my skin has finally cleared up its hormonal acne. Nothing has worked so far and I’ve tried dietary ways, exercise, hormones, various skin care products EVERYTHING and it’s the first thing that worked. And not only worked but made my skin prettier than ever. So eeh I’ll just keep to it!
@jessmarie148 4 жыл бұрын
PLEASE GIVE US YOUR VEIWS ON TAKING COLLAGEN IN PILL FORM? I would love to start I’m 31 and have been seeing in everywhere. THANKS MUCH LOVE IN WHAT U DO!
@carla3693 4 жыл бұрын
That is something you should consult a doctor not an esthetician
@kylepop4371 4 жыл бұрын
She has done a video on beauty supplements where she mentions it! To summarise, it’s a compete Russian roulette in what your body actually does to the collagen you intake. So it may work for you occasionally but it’s not going to work wonders
@puncakemix8726 4 жыл бұрын
She's already done a video on that. Collagen is broken down by your body and your skin is probably the last to make use of that collagen. Type collagen in her search bar on youtube and you'll find a few.
@angelina6543 4 жыл бұрын
She is a vegan, she does not believe in collagen supplements. She is mentioning this in one of her videos. She takes vegan proteins instead
@sukanya-thatvegansoul1379 4 жыл бұрын
Love love love your content ❤️thank you so much for sharing so much valuable information with us. I have a request please consider making a video on Photo Allergy skin care.
@jguzman713 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for adding information and context in this topic.
@sabm6521 4 жыл бұрын
I think Dr Dray would agree with most of your criticisms because she advocates using the best products that you can afford and that your skin can tolerate. If Tretinoin or Adapalene are too irritating for your skin, or are too expensive, or you're in a country where you can't get Adapalene for $9 from your pharmacy (or Amazon), then your best option is a cosmeceutical retinol/retinal, of which The Ordinary makes good-quality ones at a great price point.
@nunpho 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't buy it from Amazon, there's so many fakes on there.
@sabm6521 4 жыл бұрын
@@nunpho If you want to be extra safe, Amazon lets you choose to buy directly from the manufacturer (such as Differin, AcneFree, La Roche-Posay, Proactive - reputable companies that have been in business for a long time) or from Amazon directly, skipping any potential fake third party/FBA sellers. However, I think there is nothing to worry about for this particular category of products. I used to be a seller on Amazon, and it take a lot of time and money to get permission to sell in this category. For example, you need to prove that you have been selling enough of these products elsewhere for at least 12 months. Keep in mind I am in no way an expert on these things, just my thoughts
@nunpho 4 жыл бұрын
@@sabm6521 I wonder how they get past that. A lot of Amazon sellers are fakes from China. I always check where the parcel is being sent from though just to make sure.
@nunpho 4 жыл бұрын
@mpg it usually tells you on the product page who is sending it and from where somewhere below the price. I prefer not to buy skin stuff from Amazon
@Mylifeinspainover50 4 жыл бұрын
I hope your eyes are getting better after the eyelashes. My heart went out to you hugs from Ireland. ♥️🇮🇪
@riof.7947 3 жыл бұрын
Dia Dhuit :)
@procrastimania 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Respectful argument. Love the content!
@sadieellis67 4 жыл бұрын
I always trust your advice and recommendations, and wou'd love to see your opinion on the skinceutical range!
@xoadias 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I watch Dr. Dray as well and was interested to hear her opinion on TO. I personally still love my retinol 1% although I'm looking into getting a prescription now since my skin has tolerated it so well. I mostly want to speed up the results to clear my acne.
@Kueytwo 4 жыл бұрын
I will mostly take what Dr Dray and Paula's List has to say seriously for my skin success.
@samakhan9585 4 жыл бұрын
You explain things very nicely. I've learned so much watching this
@KHUZAFARAUF 4 жыл бұрын
I just found your videos searching something for my niece's skin issue and you are awesome. Subscribed.
@denisem8570 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using The Ordinary's retinol for years, as well as several of their other formulas. As to the Estee Lauder connection, The Ordinary products were created before EL came into the picture. From what I have read, The Ordinary was so successful that they couldn't keep up with production, so they signed on with EL to be able to produce and fill orders on a much larger scale. I have not noticed any differences in quality since the partnership.
@jessicascheffee4558 4 жыл бұрын
I personally love the ordinary 2% retinoid emulsion. It makes my skin look so good!
@madisonmm90210 3 жыл бұрын
As an esthetician I love your videos! I love the second opinion and the science behind what you say! Thank you for bringing good quality advice to the internet :) I was wondering if you could do a video some time on skin script rx? It's a professional brand for estheticians and it's my absolute favorite
@zamiraxhaferri6579 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to read your reaction! Thanks for this informative video. Best wishes!
@rileysunderland1904 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been on tretinoin on and off throughout my teenage years and have consistently been using it in my early 20s to help with my hormonal acne and prevent further breakouts. I honestly believe my skin would not be the same without it. Yes it does make you peel like crazy, and it can be annoying. But it takes time to figure out how to combat it, and find good moisturizers to offset some of the dryness. I always make sure to use my CeraVe moisturizing lotion before I put on the tretinoin to prevent my skin from become too dry overnight. I don’t wash my face in the morning so I use Simple micellar cleansing water as a toner to refresh my face and get rid of the dryness from the night before. You just gotta learn how to treat your skins when on it.
@Stefanka11 4 жыл бұрын
I love Dr. Dray, and The Ordinary has helped me so much. I do use Tretinoin now after chemotherapy caused adult acne, something i never struggled with and although TO products helped my skin so much after chemo, i would still get flare ups, so i am going with prescription, but would not be able to if i didn't have insurance which i only have due to other medical stuff going on. So glad you made this video!
@kumarikarki4537 4 жыл бұрын
Omg.... my wish just came true. I had been waiting for this video 💞
@firequeen7872 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your amazing and thoughtful content. I hope you are well. 😘
@brianp9483 4 жыл бұрын
I've often wondered about the % thing - do we 'need' to immediately jump to prescription strength or are the lower strength a better option to incorporate into our day to day routine. At 10$ a bottle the ordinary is pretty much within everyone's budget, it's easy to use and seems to be easily tolerated to most peoples skin. Her message could easily stop people with a limited budget from even trying them which is unfair.
@brayden9622 4 жыл бұрын
This is said so well Cassandra ❤️ I work for Deciem and I don't absolutely 100% believe in everything they produce but everything has its place in beauty and the skincare world. I also love Dr. Dray, much of what I've learned is from here, but I do believe in the retinoids from the ordinary - I've had so many customers achieve incredible results from them and a holistic approach
@rayvenner3340 4 жыл бұрын
I think what's great about Dr. Drays video is the call for products to have more peer reviews and testing behind their claims. Great to see the healthy debate and discussion from your video!
@user-tv4kh8wt8w 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!! So informative. Thank u for this ❤❤❤❤ also p.s please drop out a video on bodycare! 😥❤
@berniceled 4 жыл бұрын
I've had bad skin all my life and discovering the ordinary a couple of months ago really saved my skin. Its the only product line that made a difference on my problem skin and at the price point its in, I can keep regularly using it with no problems. Say what you want but I absolutely love the ordinary and no one can make me see otherwise.
@skinsciencebymira 4 жыл бұрын
The Ordinary won’t disclose the % of retinol in the emulsion unfortunately but I will say that interestingly enough - a lot of the limited research on HPR is on HPR and retinol together. So I think the emulsion with both is a safer bet than HPR alone.
@joannierose.virtual.assistant 4 жыл бұрын
I love that you are so respectful 😊
@normau8468 4 жыл бұрын
I was so confused! I got this retinoid and works very well for me. Thank you for your video.
@SaucyGalMakeup 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Penn Smith told me that the granactive was great so then when Dr.Dray said otherwise I was really confused. I hope that your poor eyelashes are doing ok. Are you going to try anything to help them grow or just let them be? 💗
@shazwanalif2883 3 жыл бұрын
Here in Malaysia, i got tretinoin .05% cream, benzoyl peroxide gel, azelaic acid cream and cetrimide 1% lotion from my dermatologist for free at the government hospital haha.
@shanchitaroysorno7181 3 жыл бұрын
may i know the cream name?
@shazwanalif2883 3 жыл бұрын
The tretinoin .05% cream is called "tretinon" and the azelaic acid cream is from galderma
@shanchitaroysorno7181 3 жыл бұрын
@@shazwanalif2883 thank you
@nazzatyrusli6582 Жыл бұрын
How did you get it?
@diaganguly109 4 жыл бұрын
I love learning from both of you! Just wondering what you think about replacing my expensive 1.0 retinol with ordinary versus adapalene for anti-aging?
@Railfanerguy 4 жыл бұрын
You are such a beautiful lady! I always watch your videos, I love how you present information and you stay so positive! I use only Buffet from ordinary and I love it!
@magorzatakulazinska1225 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE that in this video you included what was omitted in Dr Dray's video - the cruelty-free status and the availability in other countries. Of course, even when you buy cruelty-free cosmetics and you are sick and have medicine prescribed by doctor - you should take it, no doubt about that. But should we really storm the dermatologists' office just because we wanna be a bit less wrinkled when we are older? Because for many people that's the main reason they use retinols regularly and its not a valid reason for using medicine for many. Using skincare for that is not a waste of time, it's just gentler when you do not have something to be treated by a doctor. Also, the access to prescriptions can be really expensive in other countries, not only America, because, surprise, the world outside America exists (youtubers sometimes don't take this into account so I'm very grateful). Great and informative video!
@L_San87 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes i have the feeling some Americans don't even conceive the idea that the world exists beyond the USA xD and that in other places (here in the EU for ex) our health care systems are a lot different, we don't just go and get prescriptions left and right, we are assessed by a health professional who will find the best treatment for us not just go to a doctors office and ask for tretinoin… also even going to a dermatologist, here in the Netherlands you need to see your GP first and get a clearance that you indeed need a specialized practitioner, is not only "i want to" is more 'I Need to'. and in many other countries the system works similar.
@rii9941 Жыл бұрын
truer words have never been spoken, slayyyyy
@vivimicheal 4 жыл бұрын
Theres another doctor whose reputation is same as hers. Dr David Lim. He actually encourages most “the ordinary” products. Honestly i would just stick to what is good for my skin.
@annabl4523 4 жыл бұрын
I love his videos, it’s my go to when it comes to recommendations, but that’s just my opinion.
@JessieR2023 4 жыл бұрын
He also support using face brushes, meanwhile others don’t. This is all confusing and further proof that doctors in all kind of field are not thought the same.
@melaniereisner8375 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that each person should use what works best on their own skin. The products I use are backed up by science. The retinol in squalene has been shown to be effective. To be used only at night, as retinol breaks down with UV rays.
@mb.7105 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input!
@mikag1247 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, i love your videos and really enjoy watching them as they are very informative and educational. Would you recommend any of the ordinary products for stretch marks?
@annyvitoria3074 4 жыл бұрын
6:29 these drawings of the molecules were awesome in your video.congratulation
@erihussain8007 4 жыл бұрын
"Baby can you please fuck off" 🎶🎵. Nah seriously you're really fucking annoying.
@leander8840 4 жыл бұрын
@@erihussain8007 baby r u alright
@Mylifeinspainover50 4 жыл бұрын
I'm loving my Differin so sticking with that and my CBD balm it's working fantastic ❤️❤️
@Rya_B 4 жыл бұрын
Rachel The Irish Beauty Vlog 40 Plus May I ask what cbd balm you use and why? I’m very curious about it
@Mylifeinspainover50 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rya_B I use my own brand as I know I can trust its organic and 29% pure. I am launching it soon and I will have an online shop online the end of the week fingers crossed if I don't break the Internet 😂😂🤞🤞 it absorbs well and stops the dirrerin irritating I've a customer using it with Tretinoin with fantastic results. It really really moisturises and stops all the irritation normally associated with Prescription Retin A. ♥️
@Mylifeinspainover50 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rya_B my website isn't finished but it's www.amoredepielskincare.com should be live and ready by Friday ❤️❤️
@niverrtkb 4 жыл бұрын
Differin is the best and super affordable
@jason5409 4 жыл бұрын
How do you use differin?
@alondram8772 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree with you on this one!!! 🙏🏻
@cathewings2335 4 жыл бұрын
You are great and so are your videos, I've learnt so much from you and saved a lot of money on products I don't need!! Please can you do a video on the ordinary buffet serum? I don't understand if it's worth it or not x
@icystorm9968 4 жыл бұрын
In India, you can get tretinoin (retinoic acid) without a prescription for CHEAPER than the ordinary 😜
@Nina-dy8cm 4 жыл бұрын
icy storm yes in Mexico too it’s crazy here in the us it is ridiculously expensive
@moritlh 4 жыл бұрын
Yes same here in Morocca. Differin costs 6$ and Tretinoin 8$
@niharikasingh4998 4 жыл бұрын
From where?? And does it work for you??
@icystorm9968 4 жыл бұрын
@@niharikasingh4998 idk about other states but here in haryana, its about Rs. 165 for 15ml of 0.05% tretinoin and yes it completely cleared up my acne. 😁
@niharikasingh4998 4 жыл бұрын
@@icystorm9968 okay thank you ❤️
@luminescent_tides 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Dray is correct, if we’re in a PERFECT world! Ideally, wouldn’t we all maintain a low stress level, exercise the correct amount, drink the right amount of water every single day, get 7+ hours of sleep every single night and maintain the diet any nutritionist would be proud of! BUUUUUUUT, this is real life! I work 40+ hours/wk, I’m a mom, wife, commute 2hrs/day, 5 days a week, so The Ordinary helps me out where I sometimes fail! 💗
@kritiaggarwal88 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Cassandra, much love 😘😘 You have rightfully stated that not every product is available everywhere. Hence, the need for alternatives. There are many skincare brands which have not yet launched in my country (India), so I'm dependent on whatever best is available. Thanks for sharing your knowledge😁
@dxoxo0107 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this 💜💜
@Concertina43210 4 жыл бұрын
Even if you have insurance and access to a dermatologist, prescription tretinoin is usually only covered by insurance if it's prescribed for acne. So if you don't have acne and want to use it to treat wrinkles, most insurers consider this an elective treatment. In other words, if the reason is cosmetic and unnecessary, you're gonna pay out of pocket regardless.
@Dove12316 4 жыл бұрын
Maya Papaya I got tretinoin through curology. Reasonably priced. But it’s still too soon to form an opinion on the results.
@luisab7901 4 жыл бұрын
That is only for the US. You can get tret without prescription at any drugstore for $6 in many countries
@asideofaioli4630 4 жыл бұрын
@@luisab7901 Do you have any more information about this? Like if there are reputable websites or countries that people in the u.s. can buy from. I was going to go with curology, but read some things that scared me.
@luisab7901 4 жыл бұрын
@@asideofaioli4630 i'm not sure since i'm not from the US but you could try asking on reddit (r/skincareaddiction)
@asideofaioli4630 4 жыл бұрын
@@luisab7901 good idea. Thanks 😊
@MaribelHernandez-fs4on 4 жыл бұрын
Period. One of the reasons why I Iove Cassandra and her KZfaq channel is because she’s considerate and understanding. Always aware some people can’t afford certain products, have certain skin conditions etc, so she gives people options and makes shit work for us. We love a queen that cares about her audience!!
@lhalaa 4 жыл бұрын
I like how you reacted and pointed out your thoughts and beliefs with regards to the products that you love. We all have different opinions and skin. Thank you for making these contents, we’re all learning from watching your videos! I like some of the ordinary products, they’re affordable and straightforward. I also have the 1% Retinol in squalane but I stopped using it. It has sensitised my skin so much and I don’t know what to do with it anymore. I’m now using PA retinol, and so far no irritation. Any suggestions how I could use up the TO retinol? Can we use it in our body?
@Fidddle2Pie 4 жыл бұрын
cassandra would love love love seeing a hair vid from you :D curly (maybe wavy? which has more cleansing compared to curly) girl method? :D
@dopegirlswag1 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing compares to prescription tretinoin. There is no argument, case closed.
@annyvitoria2662 4 жыл бұрын
10:09 your smile exudes happiness 😊
@nenawells3916 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Ordinary Granactive 2% retinol. I've had good results and you can't argue with the price. I love their products
@HealingwingsCounseling 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your" we CAN agree to disagree attitude". Seems to be lost at times we all can have opinions and its great to have conversations and maybe be good and bad but lets have them BUT also allow others to have opinions period. ;) YOUR awesome and be Loved!
@ewelinasibilska4742 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your opinion! I'm thinking of trying ordinary soon 😉😊🙏 PS. I don't get why people body shame Dr Dray! As soon as you call someone fat you get told off but calling someone skinny, pale, unhealthy, having eating disorder etc it's ok? 😕 😢
@kendrastrange18 4 жыл бұрын
It isn't body shaming as it isn't about appearance. It is about a disorder and how it is being presented as she is an influencer.
@ewelinasibilska4742 4 жыл бұрын
@@kendrastrange18 It is cause you're putting a label on someone you don't know. You literally saying she's got a disorder even though there is no way you can know this. And btw influences aren't perfect. She is allowed to be have body whatever she wants and if she is struggling with sth then she is also allowed to do that. Just like the rest of us
@kendrastrange18 4 жыл бұрын
@@ewelinasibilska4742 that isnt a label it is a disorder that she is showing through how she eats.
@kendrastrange18 4 жыл бұрын
@@ewelinasibilska4742 it is ok she isnt perfect, no one is mad at her for having a disorder. It is sad! The only thing to be mad about is how she presents it, and how it is such easy pro ana material.
@alexandram1301 4 жыл бұрын
TO granactive retinoid 2% emulsion gave me the WORST breakout of my life, took so long to clear up. I love retinol and have been using them for years and never had this type of reaction...this experience has kept me from really diving into TO line. Love Differin, Sunday Riley and La Roche Posay retinols
@felicia_716 4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if you did a video on other products you like, especially retinols. I know the ordinary is great for the price but I would like to hear about products that are all around great 😊
@annyvitoria3074 4 жыл бұрын
10:25 i love your channel. I'm already looking forward to your next vídeo
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