Hey all! I had a large 2 stroke engine dropped off at the shop the other day. Feller said he couldn't get it going. So I'm going to give it a shot! I tear into this old girl and see what makes her tick, or doesn't I suppose lol.
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@PromasterHOF3 ай бұрын
I’m 71 yrs old and back in the 50’s and 60’s when I was a kid my great grandfather lived in an oil and gas company house on Oil Ridge Tyler County WV. His job was to keep the massive meaning HUGE hit and miss engine running he also oiled the belts that ran several pumping stations off of the flywheel of the hit and miss engine. The main belt ran a pulley that ran other belts that went to the pumps. It was a pretty amazing thing to see for a little kid, the engine could be heard for miles. In the late 60’s the operation was converted to electric motors for the field pumps and my great Gran Pap had to move into town and lived with my grandmother. He had some amazing stories about the old hit and Miss engine. Those days in the USA were amazing.
@klpittman13 ай бұрын
I’m in Kanawha county. Used to hear old well pumps out in the woods from miles away. Haven’t heard one run since the 80’s.
@oscartheg66743 ай бұрын
I can't add to that I have seen them in old county fairs they're excellent.
@garyjohnson46573 ай бұрын
I would be willing to bet, that people who first saw these were in awe! I also think it will not be long till modern society, not having been exposed to these machines, will be just as in awe!!!
@rossk48643 ай бұрын
Great story. In the 1980's I lived in a village on the lower Yukon River in Alaska where I ran the power utility. A guy, who lived at a fish camp about 30 miles downriver had a failed Lister diesel generator and asked me for help. He took me by boat to the camp and I determined that the voltage regulator had failed. Sitting next to the Lister, in the generator shack, was an early 1930's horizontal, single cylinder, 15 kW Whitte diesel generator. I asked him about the unit and he said he never saw it run in his 35 years, but his dad, who was deceased at that time, had told him that there was nothing wrong with it. I filled up lubricating oil cups, bled the fuel line and filled the fuel priming cup with diesel, I found and opened the compression release and started spinning one of the flywheels, closed the compression release and off it went without hesitation. I initially couldn't get it to generate, so I stopped the machine, and arced the field with a car battery. Upon restarting, it generated, and I easily adjusted governor and voltage regulator to 60 Hz, 120/240 volts. It had a 50-pole alternator and turned at 144 rpm. He used it for a few months, until he got the Lister repaired, and said it ran flawlessly the entire time.
@scottrayhons25372 ай бұрын
@@rossk4864really interesting story about those generators! History will repeat itself if Crooked Joe stays in office. Keep those diesel generators on standby.
@johngreen19073 ай бұрын
The part that got the tears from laughing flowing for me was when he said "if you've got one of these at home.......it is possible to blow one of these up by doing an air start" Priceless.
@kevinfox38752 ай бұрын
Old Engineer here from Ireland. Beautiful engine and wonderful to hear. Heavenly to watch and it's kicking my memory cells alive. Well Done young Sir.
@Townsendcat22 ай бұрын
Look I’m just happy to see somebody younger. That actually has learned how to do all this correctly. It’s very impressive to an old man. It makes me smile. !! keep doing what you’re doing because you have knowledge very few people in the planet will have??!!!
@raymondo162Ай бұрын
Chewing the piston rod with a pipe grip don't seem very 'correct' to me............... 12:13
@kippie80Ай бұрын
Gonna need these skills, Mad Max is just around the corner.
@chazlabreckАй бұрын
MG on a trailer too small in my Isuzu trooper was madness.
@chazlabreckАй бұрын
Lucky I built some up then @@kippie80
@user-ps6qh7ue8z15 күн бұрын
@@raymondo162 dont worry it aint nowhere near any glands or moving parts regards lawrence
@ShainAndrews3 ай бұрын
Towing 5k+ with a jacked up Suzuki. That's some balls.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities3 ай бұрын
I don't know if I'd consider backing it into the garage as towing lol. I'd definitely not take it on the street!
@zerkfitting3 ай бұрын
LOL! That one lunger probably weighs more than the Suzuki.
@ShainAndrews3 ай бұрын
@@Cast_Iron_Curiosities LOL.
@ironworkerfxr71053 ай бұрын
FIRST THING I THOUGHT........
@petert33553 ай бұрын
That is just asking to wag the dog....
@user-zl6yn6bs5x2 ай бұрын
Just had our gardner ,1.5hp hot tube engine running last night. Glad to see our hobby is alive in 2024
@johnmartin56223 ай бұрын
I'm not an engineer, nor a mechanic, but I found this fascinating. The way you have explained everything and the detail you went into was absolutely brilliant! Thank you so much. 😃
@mickwolf10773 ай бұрын
way better than an animation explaining things.
@able8808 күн бұрын
That's an excellent comment you made - in my case I had been around those engines and the large 500 HP power house engines growing up - Also up till the 1980s some were still in service and I worked on them - I still found this video interesting - much of that stuff can be a pain to get running - Sense those engines ran slow they had time to burn most of the fuel and could be 4 to 5 times more fuel efficient than modern high speed engines -
@robertcrouthamel9140Ай бұрын
In 1991 when I was a young man right out of grad school, I was the HR Rep for the Cooper-Bessemer plant in Grove City, PA. Fascinating place. It had three sections - the Foundry, with three 35-ton electric furnaces; the Machine Shop, with gigantic machine tools, and the Assembly Shop, where the reciprocating engines were assembled, tested, and prepared for shipment.
@ColCurtis3 ай бұрын
The spring doesn't control the amount of gas. When that plate lifts, it allows both gas and air into the engine. The gas regulator controls the ratio of gas to air. The spring keeps the plate closed, so it only gets gas when it draws in air.
@rsmith27863 ай бұрын
The longer the hot tube, the more advanced the timing. That tube seems to be too long and ignition is starting well before TDC. It also makes it very unforgiving to start. I'd go back to that 6" now that you have it running and see how it behaves.
@roberthousedorfii17432 ай бұрын
I'd love to see a followup video about how to tune these things, per this suggestion. @rsmith2786 is it possible to advance the timing, if the tube is too short, by heating the tube to a higher temp? or would that just screw things up even more?
@6agenthawk2 ай бұрын
thats what i was thinking too as he was trying to kick start it and after when it was running
@raymondbanks4103Ай бұрын
I think it's the other way around. Short tube lights early, (advanced), long tube lights later (retarded). No?
@janjager29063 ай бұрын
As an old ships engineer I must say your explanations are excellent. I did not had any knowledge of this kind of two stroke gas engines, how to time them or hot pipes. In an other video I learned about hit and mis engines, magnetos and how to re-magnetize them. You do this better than every teacher I had. One remark, the rod between crosshead and the piston we called the piston rod. You probably already knew this (sorry).
@markhelseth2533 ай бұрын
That was the first time I had heard a good explanation of a hot tube and timing. Nice instruction! Loved the CAD (Cardboard Aided Design) visual aids. It was cool (hot?) to see how the length makes a difference. It was almost like a diesel pre-chamber. Thanks.
@IO-zz2xy3 ай бұрын
Surely there is a better method of turning rod without chewing up the rid with a monkey wrench??? WTH, damn, even a piece of thick cloth would be better than nothing??? Regards from South Africa
@sjv65983 ай бұрын
I was quite shocked he took that approach.
@primrosereceptionist6113 ай бұрын
Use a strap wrench.
@lmj14173 ай бұрын
Remove the head and then turn the piston. You don’t want to damage the rod. A damaged rod will ruin the packing. A horse cock which is like a sleeve protects the packing when the rod is pushed through the packing. I have done this to dozens of reciprocating compressors which are similar.
@serioustrouble633 ай бұрын
exactly what I thought!
@boogerhead03 ай бұрын
Horrors..... A Pipe Wrench?????????
@stevelee57243 ай бұрын
5 minutes in, the display and description adds tremendous value to the learning curve ! Thanks mate ! 😊 Cheers from New Zealand
@jimhmod3 ай бұрын
As an older man with a steam boiler background, this was 38 minutes well spent!!!
@Esaiah54172 ай бұрын
My grandfather grew up near Sheffield Pa, and had a hunting lodge there. This is the heart of the Allegheny National Forest. Near his camp there were 2 stationary steam engines that ran push rods through the woods to run oil well pumps. Some of the rods are still strung through the Allegheny National Forest as of 2007. This engine was used to replace those steam engines. The Bessemer plant is still in Grove City, sadly boarded up. I went to college there. Fascinating stuff.
@markramsell4543 ай бұрын
Simple engines can still be a pain to get going, good job overcoming the problems.
@iconoclad3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the long detailed closeup of the engine running. And thanks for explaining all the components. Very educational.
@rvmattison64803 ай бұрын
Thanks- great explanation with simple but accurate pieces. I wish all the specialists doung stuff on you tube were as clear as you.
@kleetus922 ай бұрын
I stumbled across one of these in a shed in western PA, Butler area about 40 years ago as a kid riding horses. the whole setup was there, even the belt from the engine to the main beam of the pump jack. It will had plenty of compression, it would hold me standing on the flywheel of about the same size as this one. Only difference is where this has a crosshead guide, the one I saw was directly connected to the piston that you could see the back of. Most of the valve gear and governor control was missing. I'd love to wander back into the woods some day and see if it's still in there. It's obviously big enough that someone would have to make concerted effort to get it out because it was way up a valley with minimal access. Thanks for the explanation of the hot tube ignition, I never understood how those worked... basically a diesel engine with a glow plug. I do wonder however if the type of gas would also have an effect on timing as it should be easier to light natural gas than propane since it's lighter. Now whether that means it needs more or less ignition, I don't know... theoretically running propane, you should only need 1/3 the fuel you'd use on natural gas to get the same thermal energy per ignition... So depending on where that engine came from, and what it was being fed, that may have played a role and explained its odd timing. Cool video!
@craigsnook36053 ай бұрын
God those big old two strokes sound sooooo lovely. Thanks for sharing her with us
@TheVespap200e3 ай бұрын
Excellent job getting that beast running. Great explanation on how it all works was awesome too. Thanks for the video!😀👍
@rubegoldburg78413 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT! THANK YOU for the detailed explanation of the parts of this engine and how it (engine) and they function. MOST KZfaq engine channels omit this 👎 Your very detailed explanation is VERY helpful to those of us who are not experts. PLEASE do more videos in this manner. 👍👍👍
@mauserwinchester3 ай бұрын
You have done a great job again, I am sure your friend will appreciate the work you put into getting the engine running, it would be nice to see her again after you finish the fine tuning, to see how easy a start you can achieve, and if you give your buddy a crash course in air starting.
@bobcarry48203 ай бұрын
I have loved old steam and hit and miss engines since my childhood. Thanks for clarifying with detail on how they work. Fascinating how they produced power from this in 1899. Thanks for sharing.
@user-gn6zp2nk7w2 ай бұрын
I'm here in England and loving your video. I think it's important to keep the old technology running. Thank you from Graham aged 70 and a bit. XXX
@spu33 ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you for posting! I worked for Cooper-Bessemer (Cooper Energy Services) in the 70's - 80's. Never saw anything about the Bessemer engines, even though I spent time in the Grove City 'Bessemer' plant.
@kd5byb3 ай бұрын
Love the cardboard and tape explanation of two-stroke operation!!! Subscribed!
@USMC-Sniper-01373 ай бұрын
I'm 62 years old and lived on a farm as a kid but, never delt with such machinery as this. We did have an old tractor,( brand escapes me), with steel spiked wheels that a wide belt ran from the side of the engine area to a large cutting wheel/table combo behind it that we used to clear our land of trees and cut them into logs. So, I never experienced these combustion engines like this but I sure as hell am amused and love watching these videos! You got a new viewer for as long as you do your work on them. Thanks for letting me learn about how things work from the past.
@wilsonlaidlaw3 ай бұрын
I wonder if part of the issue might be that propane is less easy to ignite than natural gas which has a lot of methane in it.
@gregorysampson87592 ай бұрын
This is one of the best KZfaq videos I've seen! I love that a guy knows how to work on these. I have one of those tool and die lifts they're super handy.
@abcnz13 ай бұрын
Always great to see you getting these going!!
@glumpy103 ай бұрын
Lot of skill and knowledge you have on these old engines. Very interesting vid and great to watch.
@robleary3353Ай бұрын
Love that these old bits of kit are still around. Also love the fact people still have the 'know how' on how to get them going and to fettle them!. Nice one, Nuff said!.
@needsaride151263 ай бұрын
Great tutorial/instructional video on the explanation of how those engines work. Taking the head off, Taking the valve off and showing the intake and exhaust ports. Gives one a much better understanding of the engine internals. Thank you for this video.
@NotchFox2 ай бұрын
Your engine, and obviously you know your engineering, but I cringed everytime you hit the rod and nut with that pipewrench.
@needsaride151262 ай бұрын
@@NotchFox I was thinking the same thing.
@couttsw3 ай бұрын
All the oil sight glasses seem to be short of oil, especially the one adding oil to the intake port.
@90FF13 ай бұрын
I learned stuff I couldn't have imagined I needed to know. 🙂 Thanks and keep on chuggin'.
@paulculbert12813 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this video. Terrific explanation of how this thing works. A bit of pucker factor starting the old girl!
@derrickworthington735110 күн бұрын
Amazing to think that Richard Trevithick born in 1771 was the inventor of high pressure steam engines. I know that everyone thinks that Stephenson was the inventor of railways but Richard Trevithick got there first. In the U.K. you can see and hear single cylinder boat engines and see beautiful old engines pumping water from underground to maintain water level on a canal.that are really huge still work, 17:44 operated by volunteers.
@Unknown_Random_Guy3 ай бұрын
Love the Suzuki, those things were awesome, bare bones, light and small but great 4wd and a lot of fun.
@johndoyle47233 ай бұрын
Thanks, a beautiful machine and the noise when running is very satisfying, I must be turning into one of those guys at the country fairs.
@knowone62143 ай бұрын
LOL....I was waiting for a misfire and it sending you flying through the garage when you were trying to kick start it.....wise choice using that air bump start.....great job getting it running
@idkwhatnametochoose.2 ай бұрын
Ayo you deserve a lot more views and you explain very well thanks.
@phammond683 ай бұрын
i appreciate the effort put into the diagram, felt like watching Watch Wes Work for a second there
@brianr85813 ай бұрын
Not bad! I'm quite impressed with your lvl of engineering. Stay awesome my friend! We need everyone of your type we have. God bless!
@brianmros48443 ай бұрын
you did a great job explaining how this works. I like visuals
@user-jy8mo5fi5q2 ай бұрын
You persevered and eventually got it going when many others would have given up just like the owner did. Although a simple engine it takes knowledge as to how they actually work. Watching you work on this stationary engine made a nice change
@hardies13 ай бұрын
That was fun to see how this big engine works and to see it up and running. I did notice though that the fly ball governor was not hooked up.
@MnACreations2 ай бұрын
New sub! Love the old engines! Love to watch and listen to them running! Great explanation also.. Thank you
@user-zs6mm9zi7p8 күн бұрын
Thank you for your very interesting lessons. I love these old engines but unfortunately don’t have any of them anymore. I learned a lot from your video and have subscribed. Thank you very much. Cheers for Australia 🇦🇺
@arenotdiy7280Ай бұрын
These look like they should be in Willie Wonka's factory pumping out strange candy
@grandpaguitar9103 ай бұрын
BEEN GOING TO TRACTOR SHOWS FOR 60 YRS AND NEVER KNEW HOW ONE OF THESE THINGS WORK,,,,,UNTILL NOW,,,,THANKYOU !!!!!
@gowdsake71033 ай бұрын
Loves the diagram Looking at the connecting rod someone did not look at the original paint and adjusted it. I always look for clues like that
@martinda74463 ай бұрын
Spotted that straight away too.🤠 And the big tool on the con rod eating it.... Though I'm sure it had plenty of marks already... The wobbly input valve.. That didn't look right, the empty oilers.... Flippin eck, I'd be a nightmare in there....
@gowdsake71033 ай бұрын
@@martinda7446 it is detective work, realistically the engine gives you clues
@aussiebloke60922 күн бұрын
@@martinda7446 Especially those oilers...all but one were bone dry (and I'd bet that's because that one was blocked.) Gave me the chills seeing that.
@607perkins19 күн бұрын
@@aussiebloke609I'm sure he just oil can lubed the surfaces. The oil drippers are vital for long runs, and I'd fix them, but for starting and running for ten minutes, not needed.
@rodneyhendrickson50942 ай бұрын
God I’d Love to get me one of them old hit & miss engines. They have a hit & miss engine shows in Portland, Indiana every year. There’s a bunch of them there. And it’s less than 30 miles from me. Thanks for sharing Bud. You have a nice one there.
@evanschulz73752 ай бұрын
Great video. I recently started learning about engines. My Cummins had a problem with the camshaft, and I realized I didn't know what that was. So I've been learning a lot. I'm going to go up and talk to those guys at the county fair this year!
@SuperHurdman2 ай бұрын
I am impressed, You have a lot of patients.
@JViello3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, fun stuff! It looks to me like the counter rocking of the trailer was one of the reasons it was so hard to get it going. It was losing a LOT of momentum moving that trailer which would have gone into piston movement otherwise. Just an engineer's quick observation. Great video!
@JeffreyNero-sk6jv3 ай бұрын
Also. That thing is awesome. You’re a great tech, man. Looks great working!
@anthonycamilleri72973 ай бұрын
thanks for the patience in explaining the working on the pieces you are dealing with australian fan
@anvilgardgen3 ай бұрын
Amazing, truly a thing of beauty...thank you for sharing this great machine ❤❤❤
@rogerabutcher8479Ай бұрын
I really learned a lot watching this repair video. Nice job and thanks.
@harrylarry83302 ай бұрын
Your one 🧑🔧 " hell of a mechanic " Ole buddy 😁👍
@rixretros2 ай бұрын
Great vid !!! I'm an old 2 stroke motorcycle enthusiast so 2 strokes hold no terrors for me.......however that hot tube ignition system is something else again. Imagine timing the engine by varying the length of the hot tube !!! I'll be remembering that tip, for sure. Thanks for such an informative vid.
@martineastburn36793 ай бұрын
The small one I was Building was a 6 stroke - fired on both ends the piston has 2 plugs or ignition sites. Runs on Propane and air. has a large wheel and a smaller wide wheel. Somewhat like this but different. Complex timing. Nice explanation. Called a "Merry"
@MagnetOnlyMotors2 ай бұрын
Makes one wonder how long they tried to get the first one functioning.😊 Needs some counter weights to steady it on the ground.
@ktm4208027 күн бұрын
Awesome! We have the 3-day show at Jacktown where I'm from, everything from shoebox size to steam tractors. I grew up around this stuff, antique farming and all.
@adams42722 ай бұрын
I'm from just south of where that was made. I learned a lot thank you! You sir have a new subscriber
@rockinrodney663 ай бұрын
That answered any questions I had about them engines. Thanks and I'm a new subscriber now.
@hansjansen70473 ай бұрын
I can see parallels with later car engines but the primitive technology is amazing.
@thetwostrokerebuilder3 ай бұрын
Very cool channel 🏁 stuff you don't see every day. Boy engines sure come along way 😂
@wrenflyer2 ай бұрын
I gotta say how interesting that was, I've seen one of those engines in the science museum London, all be it a bigger version, your explanation was so clear and easy to understand, thanks..
@bazra192 ай бұрын
We had two, similar to that one, on each Light Ship back in the 1950's, I admire your knowledge on something so old, well done. They gave us all the power we needed for the huge light and all our domestic usage we needed. You cant give it too much oil, so oil, oil, oil and in case I forgfot more oil. We had a platform on the top of the flywheel so we could run it round by foot. and the fly wheel mwas much wider than yours to make it easy to run it round. And ours were parafin. I wish I fcould be with you.
@mikaelabowen57813 ай бұрын
This is absolutely fascinating - really informative.
@stephenmiller621313 күн бұрын
Hi, Thanks for ALL the details of a gas engine. Ive had a lot to do with large 2 stroke marine diesel engines but no experience with gas engines. Oh don't forget to put oil in those drip feed oilers !
@AntonioClaudioMichaelАй бұрын
Such a neat old 1899 2 stroke Engine
@rchrdgrn2 ай бұрын
I now know exactly how a two stroke engine works. Very good explanation.
@skipstein7443 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the info and unique machine.
@amckee10017 күн бұрын
Great video, learned a good bit on these type engines, thank you.
@dieselten013 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thank you!
@Rem10613 ай бұрын
Well, I'm 62, and my first tractor was a model H "Poppin John" which was ancient when I was 20. It could be used to back into a 6 or 8" drive belt and become a stationary engine to drive a cane mill. Even though it was tiny tractor, it had incredible torque.
@Fixitall-ib6nc8 күн бұрын
That’s a lot of crap in the water jacket, obviously gravity keeps most at the bottom. Thanks for the knowledge! Super cool! I live in Oklahoma and have three of these that are visible from my house 💪
@slffan25803 ай бұрын
Great channel my friend. Very informative. Cheers from Birmingham, England
@d.graydraftinganddesign3613 ай бұрын
Nice job getting it running. and awesome videography. This was both educational and entertaining. regard D. G. Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities3 ай бұрын
Thank you! That means a lot! I try to make something that keeps your attention!
@donfarley49072 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I love engines and this is amazing that our forefathers could engineer these fabulous machines.
@bobbates7343Ай бұрын
You did a great job explaining how the engine works
@davide305413 ай бұрын
i did have some idea how a 2 stroke gas/petrol engine worked, but you cleared some details right up. great job. sub +1
@thehourglasswithaman3 ай бұрын
So is this not a hit or miss engine
@theonewhoknows22 ай бұрын
@@thehourglasswithaman nope
@WTFMIKE2 ай бұрын
I wonder how many times someone got these engines to fire and the things end up firing backwards??🤣🍻 Great video my friend i learned something today
@thedolt92153 ай бұрын
I love these engines! Thanks for a great tutorial…
@user-xu7qi8vs6x3 ай бұрын
Casting the cylinder would have been tricky big ports and intricate lines what a beautiful engine ❤
@marklelohe37543 ай бұрын
Looks like the trailer movement is making the engine run uneven. Anyway, it was good to learn about the timing issue with the hot tube. I guess it is not just the length but also the temperature that affects the ignition point. There are many variables to get right as you demonstrated, the gas pressure and the strength of the inlet valve spring. I assume that each engine needed to be adjusted to suit the conditions at each oil well, back in the day. I wonder if any of the old boys that kept them running are still around? I imagine the magneto was added to take some of the timing guesswork out of the equation. I suppose the hot bulb ignition needed a constantly running blowlamp? The air start was pretty dicey but better than seeing you run the risk of getting mangled in the flywheel. Good interesting video.
@littlethislittlethat4563 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I've never seen an engine like this. John from MI
@mikevine66283 ай бұрын
I learned a lot from this video, time well spent. Thanks
@user-Borgus2 ай бұрын
Cool! I enjoyed that a lot. Keep tinkerin'!
@adrianvanniekerken-lp5oj2 ай бұрын
The best explanation I have heard so far. Thank you
@amicloud_yt3 ай бұрын
"that's another reason your piston timing is important, because if your cylinder is too far forward it's gonna slap your cylinder head" what
@YuriGoofov3 ай бұрын
Yea, the cylinder head as in the thing he just took off. Where he mispoke is that he meant piston too far forward, not cylinder.
@amicloud_yt3 ай бұрын
@@YuriGoofov how is a piston ever going to his the head? it might hit valves in an interference engine but that's it, right?
@kirkstinson73163 ай бұрын
@@amicloud_yt Because the piston is moved forward or back to set the timing. If it's set to far forward it will hit the cylinder head
@ZaneDaMagicPufferDragon3 ай бұрын
Very cool restoration work!!!
@crazyjoe66792 ай бұрын
Love the content 🎉just subscribed thanks for sharing and teaching much appreciated
@thelongislandguy3 ай бұрын
Great job! Learned a lot!
@williammatzek46603 ай бұрын
Good video! A museum has similar engines they run once a a year. Their engines are larger I think. The museum is at Gossel , Kansas. The only thing i'd make was a comment on the flat belt pulley , maybe a photo if I could find one.