Jorg the Mercenary Spearman Woolie as EA Mr. Shakedown. I feel blessed.

"Persona"?

@@Bizarrejoe PERSONA!!

@@Bizarrejoe "Per...so..na..."

So do we name the persona after some greasy demonic merchant or do we name it after a song?

@@arosbastion7052 For an adult with a properly functioning brain, yes. It is that easy. But we aren't talking about adults, we're talking about kids. Kids that are dumb and easy to take advantage of, which is predominantly who spend the most on Loot boxes because they're dumb. And easy to take advantage of.

@@Zhall0430 Show me statistics of all these kids who turned into gambling addicts from loot boxes. Oh that's right you can't because the people screaming about "muh children are being corrupted" online are 1)childless,2)only pay attention to unique fringe cases that make the news like when some millionaires kid spends a couple thousand dollars on lootboxes 3)actually don't care about kids at all and just use a convenient moral panic hyperbole strawman to feel righteous about dedicating constant energy and time to bitch about optional meaningless skins in a video game.

@@Zhall0430 It ain't just kids they're taking advantage of though, In EA's case it's more the sports fans and the impatient ones who have the cash to burn.

DevilDagger Well not to say that it would justify it in your eyes but, like they say in the podcast, the children argument is a new tactic since apparently just saying "loot boxes are scummy and make video games worse" isn't good enough anymore. Also in this specific case the writer talks about how without children specifically spending irresponsible amounts of money it would hurt sports games, not just adults or video gamers in general, which makes it sound like he openly accepts that it's necessary which sounds sorta shitty.

@@vivena9 Saying I can't find statistics is an assumption, not a fact. No one is arguing about cosmetic microtransactions. An upfront optional purchase of a skin or skins is perfectly fine as long as you know exactly what it is you're purchasing. That isn't gambling, that's buying a product. However, when you go from that, to putting down money for the CHANCE of getting something that you want, is when you cross into gambling territory. (Here's the definition if you don't want to take my word for it www.dictionary.com/browse/gambling ) And whether you want to admit it or not, gambling is something that is addictive.

What the fuck, that's too far.

Woah. That's messed up. My heart goes out for him.

That's, like, a VERBAL MKvsDC Kano fatality.

Pie stealer with a hard R.

Actually angry Pat is my favorite Pat.

He's Angriest Pat.

Righteous angriest path is the over heaven veriso.

Every time Pat has genuine righteous anger his STAND increases in power. What will happen next...

@@In-The-Zone Last time he had righteous anger Crazy Talk made GRRM promise to trap himself on an Island if he doesn't finish his next book on time. We need more righteous anger Pat.

They did once test out if Woolie could convince people to join his "cult" on the podcast. And he was a fuckin' pro at it instantly. So i'm not really surprised.

Honestly, whenever Woolie gives up on the streaming/LPing game, we should all be very scared because he will become the single most dangerous corporate shill man in existence.

Woolie’s ability to become the literal devil is only held back by his strong moral and ethical beliefs. If he ever loses those, we should all be worried

@@TheGrifter42 Woolie VS The World

It’s a borderline superpower

@@RipOffProductionsLLC What would be defined as retarded malice? The malice that turns out to be self-destructive?

@@gabrielperrella Think a cartoon villain, like Skeletor.

@@VileVamp But we love Skeltor!

@@VileVamp Oh. I see it now. Evil for the sake of being evil.

Isn't that by definition a sadist, though?

It’s not a free market if you have a monopoly on the sports license

And a lot of those regulations have been FUCKING FANTASTIC for the public good. Restricting advertisements for shit like tobacco and alcohol, and forcing transparency in a ton of industries that had the potential for, and at the time were, predatory, is spectacular.

I feel like most hardcore libertarians would agree that predatory child gambling violates the NAP.

Ayn Rand has entered chat...^-^

You prolly dont give a damn but does anyone know of a tool to log back into an instagram account? I somehow lost my account password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me.

True Woolie if you will

@@PunishedBlake SHIN Woolie.

Makin' it rain ni mezameta Woolie

Sin woolie trigger

ONI WOOLIE

Put the poor thing down, it shouldn't live like this. Then revive it with indie devs. That'd be cool.

Pat spending exorbitant amounts of money on Warframe was the one that got me. That shit was hilarious, and also concerning.

I wish I was around for that because that sounds bananas. Maybe someone will link something for me if you feel generous.

@@2la84me Not the HotS thing but still a hilarious display of Pat's vitual drug adiction in action kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNufmdp8vNbTfIU.html

@@2la84me here's the one with hots lol kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iNxjh8R_1pfGooE.html

Not a child - possibly a dependent - but CERTAINLY an addict. And guess what? If you make money at the expense of an addict, your business is evil!

Didn't Adam Smith only mention it like 3 times in his writings and also go into explicit detail about how it doesn't always work?

@@comingupooo Well the whole idea is that the market will correct itself automaticly. But there were several instance(economical crysis) where that did NOT happened and the government and the companies had to take active steps to correct it.

circular7 remember when he ran out of money and shoved paige into the TV? ... he only got 1 loot box for her... and it was a uncommon

...wait, what?

"realsies".... perfection

Of course it our fault! Just look at how we were dressed!

@@munnypantz our body language literally says "take our money!!!"

@Andrew Whiting do you not get the joke or are you making fun of people who might not get the joke? if its the latter then I didn't get your joke and I'm SoRrY

You mean the people that get fired when the higher ups want to reach profit margins.

There was some thing I saw where it was like "Oh yeah, I play a decent amount of video games" "Oh so you're a gamer?" "First of all how fucking dare you" and it speaks to my soul.

I 100% agree with you. At a certain point government regulation is the only option. Because they are clearly not going regulate themselves.

I think customers having the self control(or parents monitoring their kids) to stop buying stuff from the shitty companies would be a better solution, and thankfully the food and drink sellers aren't this bad, but yeah at this point these assholes need to get their shit kicked in in a way that actually hurts them quickly, and with clear cause, much like Ross Scotts crusade to get "Games As A Service" regulated to stop it from killing games and rendering them unplayable once devs/publishers pull their support.

@@RipOffProductionsLLC they already talked about this in the video

RipOffProductionsLLC Your not wrong, thing is those “parents” don’t parent. They don’t actually get involved with their kids lives and teach them stuff. People are fucking stupid so by this point government regulations need to happen.

@@RavenCloak13 Its bad all around. There is no accounting for taste nowadays and it's like almost nobody seems to care what kind of content children are playing. NOW I am the LAST person who cares about what kids are playing but it becomes a problem when it affects the real world. I think the solution for parents is kinda simple if they continue to be trash parents. Just buy them a 3DS or a Switch because Nintendo has always been consistent with keeping games fun and scum free (for the children I'd like to think on the whole) I think Sony and Microsoft really let this trend get out of hand as well.

WillyFresh92 how you get out of the TV!?

I'm just a poor widdle millionare bonus pls UwU

BUT BUT THINK OF THE SHAREHOLDERS!

@@FlameHidden Polygon greenlit and published a demo of the first level of doom. Noone said that you have to be a pro at games to be a journalist, far from it. But the level of skill displayed there is so, breathtakingly incompetent to the point where a lot of people thought the game/controller had problems working.

@@FlameHidden Look up 'Polygon plays Doom' on the search bar right now. A sight to behold. While I don't think you need to be an MLG level player to report on gaming, you should be at least above average.

Katsas Georgios this sounds like ign and cuphead.

@@agarciahunter In this case, cuphead is the son while doom is the dad.

What about that one time they uploaded a video reviewing a virtual reality gun range thing, but the reviewer spent the whole thing talking about how he doesn't like guns and how they make him feel, instead of actually talking about the game at all?

Are pokemon cards gambling? What about MTG cards, yugioh cards, basketball cards, baseball cards, etc. They're basically cardboard lootboxes. They're also targeted at minors. Should they also be banned? Should we threaten physical violence at people in a consensual activity? We shouldn't be using the government to threaten to point guns at people for liking things we don't like. Just don't buy them. And convince other people not to buy them with your words. Wanting to have government step in is the same attitude that got alcohol and marijuana banned. And those were very difficult to overturn when we realized it was a bad idea.

The Lightning Goza and even now we still haven't managed to overturn those bans for children! Big Government meddling in what my kids can smoke and drink, smh

@@HermitBlake Poor us, if only parents could parent their kids. Good thing we have government to be mommy and daddy for them, and for us while they're at it.

@@SlackisDead I know this is old, but here is the thing. The reason you have age limits, and have limits when it comes to advertising to children, is because they are some of the most vulnerable people in the world when it comes to predatory behaviors. Children don't have the ability to think for themselves like most other people, it is why they have guardians to protect them and make decisions for them. But that is not failproof. Children will still do stupid shit, stupid shit like buying alchohol, smoking, and gambling. They will do this no matter what, even if the guardian tries to get them to stop, so there needs to be something more to be done here. This is why child laws were put in place because there needed to be extra insurance to protect kids from themselves and from falling into the hands of predatory companies who had no care in the world if a child was using their product. To them it meant more dollars, and a new audience to sell to, so those companies needed to be handled which meant all companies needed to be handled the same way. Here, with loot boxes, the same thing is happening. Kids are doing stupid shit, and companies are facilitating it, even if not all of them are. Which means regulations need to be taken.

Slap that child out of the corporation's hands

The money's not spent on updating graphics and shit. It's spent to make sure those poor, hungry CEOs don't go a day without the fanciest food.

@@PunishedBlake And the most stupid part is that the "extra money" is actually never spent, it is just deposited in a bank account and added to those millions. These greedy men will NEVER spend all their money, what if he has 5 million extra cash on his bank account? He already has 20 million.

@@takezokimura2571 It's like a dragon hording gold. It doesn't spend it.

@White-Van Helsing Now this is a game I would play

@@PunishedBlake those loot boxes keep CEO's well supplied with lobster thermidor. Its actually nauseating at how some ppl are like "yeah man let children, like ages 7-12 gamble because fuck it they'll give us that delicious delicious parent credit card and fuck these kids who have gambling addictions because were a billion dollars richer"

oddly enough one is slightly more socially acceptable than the other and that's weird

yes

No, we already have ladder matches for that.

@@Sarusig "come on Jonny!! you want that new toy don't ya!? well, you better get it before billy and its all the way at the top of that ladder!!!"

No, you gamble and the prize is a child. This is the true "child gambling"

I thought you legally had to disclose if it was paid for or not?

@@Abdega Who's gonna actually enforce that?

It's true though, tell me how dating sims have majorly harmed the gaming market like how sport games and their monetization methods have, you basically can't outside of some people whining that seeing anime tits on steam is somehow bad.

@@Kydino hmmm... *keeps weebs happy *keeps weebs away from the outside world *inspires some good rule 34 I see no issues indeed

The obvious solution here is to include a game mode where you can date the athletes

@@pyropoyo So just the Fate series, but instead of historical figures, it's famous athletes? ... Dude. Sell that. Sell that and disappear before you get disappeared, because that is some water-powered engine shit right there.

@@Kydino Hikikomoris love that shit. Let them be happy with their imaginary waifus that aren't actually real and will never love them. Let those losers ignore the message Miyazaki/Anno/Kon have been trying to tell for decades because they need their overpriced figurines. And I ain't going further than that because it gets real sketch, real fast.

This aged insanely well

Companies in the 1950’s actually paid their employees and rewarded loyalty to the company for both consumers and employees. That’s completely out of the window now

Le nougat

Cringin2000 i thought they called him a Norwegian.

Nougats taste great,its a compliment.

A chicken nugget.

Look just because Pat has really stubby limb and looks like a bald Ronnie Flynn doesn't mean you can just call him a McNugget.

Yeah but those are just average everyday stupidity. This is advanced stupidity. Especially coming from a website you'd expect to have some integrity.

You kinda have to, otherwise you develop issues.

That's still the best and we will never forget Dominos X Hatsune Miku.

Darn you centrally planned economics!

I can see it already. "Self admitted pie thief and baby man plot to destroy video games."

Gambling in video games is nothing new, the oldest examples are just straight up gambling which is why they aren't seen in the same way. It shouldn't be a surprise considering how often video games replicate the implications of a gamble. Also remember that gambling itself isn't inherently bad, its the idea that pushing it without thought for the games integrity and potentially warping a young minds perception of risk and reward. I can see a future where both of these issue's are fixed and where gambling is more of a side feature.

Maybe rephrase that statement? The other guy is correct with their first statement, gambling has always existed in games like NES era back then. The problem is real money has come into play and its unregulated but in like Pokemon Red playing in the Casinos youd run out of money eventually and had to earn more in game.

Thanks, I spent like 1 whole minute picking it.

Darkside woolie was great in this episode

The people who don't get it by now will never get it, because they were confronted with "logic makes your arguments wrong" and concluded that LOGIC is the problem.

Gamergate was pretty much it's last chance to improve. The smear campaign sealed it's fate.

I copy and pasted a comment I made in a different thread about this exact topic. I do think the advent of quality of gaming journalism (and things around the culture) has taken a dive really since the old guard of printing gaming magazines. PSM, Nintendo Power, Old Game Informer etc. Like I enjoy quality interviews, news about the gaming landscape as a whole, retrospective pieces, diverse opinions from people who are the fans of certain genres (I.E. NOT putting someone who hates RPGs to review a RPG), ideas on what could be next, bringing up issues that are legit problems for people who actually want to break into the industry and don't want to get fucked that are talked about seriously and is researched properly with facts and data backing up their conclusions, getting feedback and love sections for their fans (Like I really Appreciate Game Informer still taking Fan Art and doing a mailbag in the opening pages) and obviously still having looks up coming games, and giving out fair reviews. THATS what I want. I dont want "The fishing was too hard" "Too much water" "This game too hard" "Not enough story" and the newest and dumbest not even about games "Two hours of Monsters hitting each other and not enough story."

I hope the edit was changing bootlickers to cocklickers

I agree but calm down, there are an awful lot of cocklickers out here and if you're gonna get sick every time one comes along you will be in an Iron Lung within a week. The Activision Cocklickers alone would put you in a Quarantine zone

*sigh* Bootlickers*

I second this. I don't play sports games. I love NBA Street Vol.2.

I'd love a new NFL blitz

Its still child strangling

If pat played and created a character based on himself, it would essentially be Ron weasley, because he is a shit eater.

@White-Van Helsing All the bitches whos backs he's blown out with his giant ginger hog. RIP Weasley, gone but not forgotten.

Yep. It wasn't Ron, it was your self-insert who just got sorted at Hogwarts and was locked in a closet by a bully, where you were designed to run out of "energy" right when you're trying to pull Devil's Snare from around your neck. (Note: if you want to play the visual novel without paying for energy or cosmetics, it's pretty easy to find a modded apk.)

@White-Van Helsing I would pay *EXTRA* for Ron to be strangled tbh

No longer have to hear about the awful movies and shows he watches for an hour.

@@YeTheGOATNoCap what the fuck kind of shit opinion is this?

"The Misses and me..."

@@k.-flynn sorry but I didn't really care about Matt talking about Terrace House and the no budget horror movies he watched every week when he was on the podcast.

Yes, someone called Pat a nimrod. Pretty unnecessary

MRS OBAMA GET DOWN

They called him a nagger. But we both know Pat doesn't nag, that's Woolie.

@@j0anbug Exactly. You don't wanna make the same mistake Randy did in that episode of South Park.

It's the Internet, when is that not a go to insult

they can start selling the cosmetics directly. "you want Skin X for Character Y? give us 5 dollars." if anything it could increase the profit margins, depending on what prices the individual skins had, and how desirable they are(meaning that the artists/modelers will need to make every individual skin look good).

Please tell Pat he said *there wrong, he meant *their im sure. Its a good thing you isolated his speech spelling error though so I could correct it

No problem!

They need to be banned. Sure, AO-Rated games are rare af. Not alot of games get that rating, and the few that do are never on store shelves. Loot Boxes wouldnt make much money then, but they'd still make money, and you know EA wouls make the most out of a Loot Box technicality if they could, and games with loot boxes would still be screwed. Loot Boxes need to be banned entirely, so no one can use them at all, and every game wouldnt have them.

Loot boxes should be banned. My first encounter with Lootboxes: Overwatch. My very first thought was "Why cant I just earn these legit?" And earning them legit is "Play until you are given a free loot box and if you get enough coins from dupes THEN you can buy ONE THING of your choice earned from maybe 25 GODDAMN DUPES." Its disgusting, I'd even take the "Play the Game for 40 hours to unlock" or "Win 20 matches in a row" because those are depend on Skill and then ONLY THEN maybe have a "Buy costume for a buck". I almost think for a moment that DOA has the right idea but they are just as if not even more gross with their buying costumes. It's a tragedy that Micro Transactions, Pre-release DLC, and B2P are all less gross than straight up Gatcha and Loot Boxes.

@@2la84me Those usual "Win 20 matches" tasks wouldve been terrible in Overwatch, because winning boils down to being lucky that the rigged matchmaking doesnt put you on a shitty team.

@@Walt_Xander94 Better in my book to have a near impossible goal than to temp my wallet for something that ostensibly does nothing to change gameplay.

@@2la84me Skins being locked behind rigged, gambling Loot Boxes that people would have no choice but to buy *tons* of to get, is just as bad as pay-to-win Microtransactions. Dont try to say "Its just cosmetics", because that response is always a silly one. Especially now when Epic alone, knows what they're doing when they lock the cool skins behind paywalls. Its just as manipulative. In fact, kids get made fun of, if they have the default skins. So, there's this fear of missing out, kids that dont have the cool skins will be tempted to get the skins that others bought & show off, and give in. In fact, Blizzard does that in *two* ways, Loot Boxes(especially Event specific ones. Making it more mandatory to just pay, because once an event is over, you cant get certain skins again. Not until the next anniversary), and over-charging for that one Genji skin, Tracer skin, and Mercy skin(dont bother mentioning charity, Blizzard used that just to avoid criticism. And it was a test, they went on to over-charge for those Genji & Tracer skins).

Pat seems like he's ten degrees from becoming an anti-capitalist.

Gloppie go outside

I for one welcome the future in which the worker's revolution is lead by our stubby ginger.

I wanna say there was a George Carlin quote where he said "Take the dumbest person you know. Now realize half the population is dumber than that."

Yep it's almost like if your business model doesn't work you should change it! Capitalism 101 you stupid CEOs.

Seems like a completely different market too, I remember people saying that whenever EA shifted to the sport games during their E3 conferences more than half of their twitch views leave the stream.