Cat 2 Joins the Pro Field - What's the Actual Difference?

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2 ай бұрын

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@jbgood71 Ай бұрын

That voice is so soothing. He probably teaches a yoga class or 2 when not training on the bike.

@MattQ1987 Ай бұрын

Ok... That's honestly not what I expected Donny to sound like 😂

@jackerikson5566 Ай бұрын

Like trans?

@massiada000 Ай бұрын

@@jackerikson5566idk man says like a human being but maybe go get dropped by a ‘trans’

@sjoerdvisser76 Ай бұрын

Indeed. Quite a surprise to hear a person with a cool as hell name, that rides a bike like a beast, to sound so soft-voiced, friendly and gentle.

@terrellpickett7904 Ай бұрын

These comments are KILLING me😂. He really sounds like Mike Jack. I want to hear him say “You’re ignorant…that’s ignorant.” Hell of a bike racer, Donny. Great to watch.

@shepshape2585 Ай бұрын

Love seeing those Winspace frames in the pro races. Proof that you don't need to mortgage your house to have a race worthy bike. Also, if you talked to Donny before a race, you'd probably think "what is this tiny little soft spoken man doing in this pro race?", right before he drops you. Absolute beast out there Donny, surely braver than I am racing with those guys.

@tedhorwitz430 16 күн бұрын

A Winspace won the first (Pro race) day of Armed Forces in 2019 and been on the podium at Athens.

@toddamelton Ай бұрын

I really appreciate having Donny on the channel. As much as this video is about the differences between cat2 and P/1, he provides some perspective on the differences between cat2 and cat3 which as a lower level racer I find incredibly helpful. Please bring Donny on again.

@DISCOhooch Ай бұрын

4:46 omfg what a cable housings hahaha

@dfbdf3324 Ай бұрын

Donny Ice is such a badass name

@TheCyclissimo Ай бұрын

MOMMA I MADE THE VIDEO!!

@PatrickLino Ай бұрын

can we be friends???

@CycoWarriorx Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@zenofelt Ай бұрын

LMAO, Saw ya' and thought the same thing.

@AUGS0ME Ай бұрын

Duuude, I’m even more bummed I crashed out on day 8 now 😂

@Woodsford123 Ай бұрын

It's always amazing to see the power numbers you guys put out! Awesome!

@josephlazatin8199 Ай бұрын

Bro sounds like Michael jackson

@Calebyte Ай бұрын

Donny Ice is my hero

@Zen.416 Ай бұрын

Great video Jeff and Donny!! Donny you should be on more often, best of luck on a successful season!!!

@terryjenner2156 24 күн бұрын

the last comment from Jeff was the best. All these dudes who were not fighting with you for the first 60 minutes of this race are now coming around you unfortunately. the essence of knowing when to go hard.

@jawnwells Ай бұрын

Donny Ice was brining the heat all week in Chicago!! 🧊🔥

@alexgold1981 Ай бұрын

🎵Lisa it's your birthday, happy birthday Lisa 🎶

@PatrickLino Ай бұрын

My club who is responsible for organizing/funding the final stage of Intelligentsia (Goose Island)...let's just say there are some exciting changes happening for this stage as a whole come this summer!

@DDai-qd8uk Ай бұрын

When are you racing big boy?

@PatrickLino Ай бұрын

@@DDai-qd8uk Only racing I do is race baiting!

@JBmadera Ай бұрын

great video, as always. your copilot did a wonderful job.

@biju358 Ай бұрын

bro got michael jackson doing commentary 😂

@walshman70 Ай бұрын

Very cool to highlight the average speed data and what it means to the average rider. Small increases across the categories equal major differences in the level of competition. Thanks!

@TheBrickProdigy Ай бұрын

DIEGO YOU MADE THE THUMBNAIL

@alexshih6424 Ай бұрын

that pink+white Winspace bike 🔥

@balletdude Ай бұрын

Surprised Donny isn’t still slaying it on down tube shifters and vintage steel in races ;)

@arch417powersports Ай бұрын

I don't understand how these guys do two races in one day.

@iwantum Ай бұрын

some of them are juiced up

@Josepowerzoro 29 күн бұрын

@@iwantumdam .. but don’t you get tested before going into them ?

@Michael_Clark Ай бұрын

I no joke just watched a video ragging on better help... and sure enough - there it is :D

@hubbanonumbers Ай бұрын

DONNNY ICE THE ICICLE MAN HIMSELF!!! MY HERO ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@mooxima Ай бұрын

Wow, that’s intense racing

@TheTmoney925 Ай бұрын

protect Donnie at all costs

@honestreviewer3283 Ай бұрын

Back in the 90s I was a Cat. 2 on the verge of being a Cat. 1 and would be in those races that were Pro/1/2. And that's when I quit racing, because the jump from Cat.2 to Cat. 1 or Pro is like dog years, and I knew I wasn't good enough, and wasn't prepared to make the sacrifices to even try.

@DuoTheGodOfDeath Ай бұрын

Still blows my mind seeings 50KPH+ all nonchalant when my max is like 35 for maybe 30 minutes on a flat road.

@beerpoweredcyclist Ай бұрын

Be happy you didn't have to race Superweek in the 1990's. Crits were a 100k at that speed.

@waynedouglasvideos Ай бұрын

I am thinkin Shorter ( less wide) bars for you . Look at Frame ( shadows at 18:34...) You are capturing a lot of wind. Just an observation. Love your Videos

@siez8152 Ай бұрын

Didn't expect Donny's voice to be like that..😂😂

@thomaslee3452 Ай бұрын

0:11 bro Rylan Gosling?

@benmcnary5571 Ай бұрын

Anyone have a link to the website he used to look at power vs speed

@josephclarke7133 Ай бұрын

Power is actually proportional to the cube of velocity. Force is proportional to the square of velocity. Power = force x velocity so P = kv^3

@christernyqvist3116 18 күн бұрын

When it comes to power, the dependence on velocity is cubed.

@NorCalCycling 18 күн бұрын

i realized this mistake after the fact, thanks for the correction i want these to be as accurate as possible and it low key drives me nuts when I get those details wrong.

@justinpoulson584 Ай бұрын

Donny ice is my dad

@nguyenxuanthudong486 Ай бұрын

Max speed of the winner is about 64-65kmh

@schsch2390 Ай бұрын

Power to over come air resistance increases with cube of the speed..

@klaunsonofthemorning Ай бұрын

power was higher in the cat 2 race...i mean - the 2 mph are significant, but the "over 80 watt difference" statement is a tad misleading (great video, don't want to bitch too much. love the channel, basically learned racing from you!)

@nullvoid4226 Ай бұрын

How can it be misleading, it is the average power required to complete the effort...

@teddansonLA Ай бұрын

I don't agree it's misleading. In the cat 2 race, 246 W (285 W NP) gets him to compete well against the field, spending his time at the front of the race, making and covering breaks and finishing near the winners. In the pro race, 238 W (283 W NP) means he gets dropped with 4 laps to go, having never been near the front, never being close to a break or covering one and generally just hoping to make it to the end. If he'd averaged 80 W more than the cat 2 race performance, then maybe he could have done something near the front of the pro race. So that seems about right - he'd need a circa 320 W average, and a 360 W NP for an hour or more, which is more like a pro than a cat 2.

@genegade Ай бұрын

you're pointing out the magic of bike racing. It's not just "whoever has the highest w/kg wins." It's a chess game

@robertskochinstitut6653 Ай бұрын

@@genegade It is all about positioning, cornering and being smart about moving up. I can ride the same race at 320/370NP and get dropped or do 260/280NP and be there competing for the win. The faster the course, the easier the races become. I have yet to see a technical crit featured here, the roads and corners are often super wide.

@genegade Ай бұрын

@@robertskochinstitut6653 yes. That's exactly what I was saying. Also you should scroll back. Lots of technical crits, Giro di SF is one.

@haydenm.3912 Ай бұрын

Diego, call your mom, you're famous...

@TwoWheelRover Ай бұрын

I am such a mechanic wiener for this.... Who ever built Donny's bike needs to shorten the brake/gear housing 😢 @4:47

@nachooos2506 Ай бұрын

Maybe thats why he's called Donny ICE

@Timtimzi Ай бұрын

oh shoot it's donny

@glennlbs9931 Ай бұрын

MORE DONALD VIDEOS!!!!!!!

@seajay3474 Ай бұрын

"Hello everyone this is your daily dose of internet"

@1timdog1066 Ай бұрын

Why do I feel like kicking my right leg up and grabbing my crouch listening to this commentary! 😂

@sckego Ай бұрын

🧊

@simedinson984 Ай бұрын

I would avoid better help they sell your data. very scummy behavior parading as a therapy service

@mbastos1000 Ай бұрын

BS…😂😂😂

@jackerikson5566 Ай бұрын

'Pro'

@wolf.himmler Ай бұрын

Brief annotation: while drag force is squared, with speed, to get from force to power, you actually have to apply that force along a certain direction giving you the work done over that distance. Divide that by the time it takes you, gives you the avg power you need to put out. So to maintain that speed against aerodynamic drag, you actually don't have to put in the speed squared, but to the power of three. I.e. 10% more speed gives you 1.1^3=1.33x the power you need for the original speed. In other words: 80W more from 243W is pretty accurate 🫡