Can confirm. I flew many, many miles on MidEx.

Midwest was the best. Flew MKE --> PHX all the time. Staff and service were A+.

Agree 100%.

die in my room en I have , 0:31 0:31 0:31 0:31

You’re describing the cabin configuration of every commercial aircraft in America during the sixties and seventies..that all ended after privatization was introduced and profits took priority over passenger comfort. Sadly.

I was an Air Force crew chief. In 1981 my Acct an F-4D did not return. It crashed in the mountains of northern Spain. I was the last person to talk and joke around with the crew prior to launch. It was my preflight. It was months before the wreckage was recovered. It was finally determined through the wreckage and testimony of wingman to be pilot error and heavy clouds that caused the accident. Those two months were horrific with a million things running through my mind as to what I my have missed or done wrong. It's a terrible feeling to this day . I still visualize our conversations and strapping them in their seats to this day. I hope this is not something you had to live with yourself . Your post is very accurate.

@@jsimps7 Thank God I was never called before the FAA on any discrepancy. I know of mechanics who 6 months later were called in after a logbook entry on something they did. Working in Europe on station relief I noticed a first aid kit was installed in the cockpit in place of the required medical kit. Medical kits had a green cross and locked in the cockpit, first aid had a Red Cross and were in the passenger compartment for the flight attendants. Seeing this as part of my inspection I replaced the kit. In the log book I entered replaced first aid kit with medical kit. 6 months later the poor fellow who mistakenly replaced the kit with the wrong one was called in. No action was taken as it was caught at the next flight but had I missed it and subsequently went on that way could have resulted in fines and had there been a incident where a medical kit was needed those fines can become suspensions of license whatever the FAA deems necessary. So as line maintenance you need to be on your toes or something so incidental can come back and bite you in the ass. I cannot even imagine releasing a flight to have it crash. That’s pretty much any mechanics nightmare and having to endure that nightmare until the investigation is over had to be gut wrenching not to mention the possibility your actions could have cost people their lives might have had me on medication. It’s an incredible responsibility and you better be sure of your skills when your name in the last one in the book and one of the first the FAA is coming after. I am glad it was nothing you did because the guilt would hang over me forever. But that had to be 2 months of sleeplessness for you.

@@jsimps7 🙏😢.

Did u see the fire ball, or too far away ?

Unfortunately YES.. One of the EMT's was a friend of mine, he was sick for days.@@PInk77W1

I LIVE IN MILWAUKEE

Thanks for sharing what you witnessed!

They burned of course, but you do not survive an impact like that. horrible way to go in any case.

My neighbor's son was the cameraman who was the first one to film it after it happened, still on fire. Steve. He doesn't talk about it. Ever.. It really left a big emotional scar on him.

I knew the San Diego police officer who was first on scene to the “1978 PSA crash about 2 miles south of the airport, on final, when it collided with a Cessna. No survivors. He told me about that incident. The police were able to keep a good deal of info out of the press. One of those stories I wish I never heard.

Never never if possible turn in the direction of the dead engine.

Now that you mention the policy change, I remember that as well. I flew ME a few times a year, mostly to PHL and LAX. It really was a civilized experience. Forgot to mention in my post, that in addition to the excellent meals and CC cookie, was the complimentary champagne on the flight. You felt like a big deal even if you were just a workaday person.

You heard? You heard wrong and don't believe half of the gossip about any airline crash. A sleeve spacer in the right engine detached, which caused a severe explosion. Metal parts detaching from engines can cause catastrophic engine explosions. But bird strikes only damage turbine blades and almost always only cause total or partial power loss in an engine. Bird strikes have never caused a huge engine explosion that I know of. I should know as a pilot that has flown lots of aircraft types.

@@markr.1984 Champ, it was clear in her post that what she heard was not true, and, later, she found out the true cause. Champ, why don’t you brush up on your English skills. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

It is Satelite imagery. Don't be "astonished."

And Those Warm Chocolate Cookies.

@@kenb8859 and the wine

Same

Still the safest way to travel.

​@georgeforall thats what they say, but if I never fly, I probably won't die in a plane crash.

Flying is safer than driving, champs. That’s a *fact.* But, if appearing to be a weasel makes you feel better, by all means, do it.

Don’t make fun of people having the fear of flying - cause if you do -that makes you the weasel 😂

would rather have competent pilots than wine........try and pay attention clown

This guy 😂

Some seem to prefer panic and suicide maneuver instead (kidding). Sometimes the situation is overwhelming and time insufficient .

Yes. They say first fly the plane

So little time, make the wrong decision and there's no time to correct it.

@@kelleychilton2524 Response needs to be instinctual, like swatting at a fly that's coming towards your face.

Thanks Jim!

Thanks!

www.baaa-acro.com/sites/default/files/2020-04/N100ME.pdf Gross Incompetence of the flight crew plus gross incompetence of FAA oversight of the airline.

Gee, I hadn't noticed that. Perhaps because I was too busy paying attention to the true meaning of this video.

@@brianarbenz1329 you were paying attention to the comments because you wanted to be offended.

@@echohotel4963 ?

My whole point -- which I clearly said -- was that I was _not_ paying attention to comments.

@@brianarbenz1329 I was paying attention to the WHOLE video. Nobody directed anything towards YOU. I am a retired CPA of 30 yrs so I have a CRITICAL MIND and observe many things at once (multi-tasking). I also had a commercial pilots license and was 5 hrs from getting my CFI 40 yrs ago so aviation interests me very much. And now for the past 7 yrs have done a DEEP DIVE into our government and history of the founding of this country and now know the difference between "United States of America" and "United States." I observe EVERYTHING and still see the true meaning of ANY video.

The DC 10 Chicago accident has little in common with this one. One was not recoverable, the Midex accident was pure pilot error.

@@bayouflier6641 they could have got the Dc-10 in the air quite easily. Much harder to actually get it down in that condition. They were lucky that the accident happened in May and not August. Might have lost more people on the ground instead.

I understand that the engine failed, but the pilots failed to recognize the failure, even though they shouldn't have been entirely surprised. Neither pilot made the call outs for an engine failure, neither commanded max thrust. The cowlings for the right engine were intact at impact so it wasn't a catastrophic uncontained engine failure. No checklist was performed, the pilots did nothing as the aircraft swung from a heading of 194 degree's to 260 degree's in 8 seconds. You couldn't demonstrate worse pilot performance in a engine failure if you tried. I can't even blame ME's training because neither pilot followed the established procedures to handle an engine out. Personally, I think Dan Martin was promoted too early.

@@bmoulas The engine was failing in Madison. It should have never taken off from MADISON let alone MILWAUKEE. The people who are responsible for recognizing and fixing and/or grounding the plane missed or failed to take significant action. The pilots and passengers who flew from Madison were just as much at risk of crashing as the new pilots and passengers in Milwaukee. Bottom line is a PASSENGER...who is still alive and well today...my friend...was the only one who realized (surmised/figured) that there was a BIG enough PROBLEM to get off the plane. If he was smart enough to understand SOMETHING MUST be wrong with the plane as a passenger...then SOMEONE who knew something was amiss (the right engine light) in Madison and SOMEONE in Milwaukee who also recognized that the NEW right engine light was warning (allegedly) that something was amiss... should have said let's take a deeper dive into this. I mean...many of us are old enough to remember driving a car (from the 70s or 80s) with the red engine light warning that the engine is too hot or something else. If we kept driving the radiator would overheat due to a fluid leak or the transmission would burn up because of a transmission fluid leak or the engine fails because of an oil leak. Warning lights mean WARNING WILL ROBINSON! FIX ME OR ELSE. Two different warning lights were indicating a problem and in both cases the LIGHT was replaced (apparently) and not the actual PROBLEM was not diagnosed when there were two opportunities to do so. If you rent a car in Milwaukee with engine or tire troubles which are known or should be known based on maintenance records and during your car's malfunction you end up crashing into other cars because of missed or ignored dangers...you can't put the blame on the driver who assumes the mode of transportation he/she has been given is GOOD TO GO. The plane which catastrophically disintegrated on that day was not GOOD TO GO and two maintenance crews tragically in two cities failed to recognize that the 'malfunctioning' right engine lights were operating PERFECTLY. My biggest question and the most important remaining question my friend is WHY isn't there a mention in the 75 page report about the right engine warning light indicator in Madison or Milwaukee? We can piss on the graves of those pilots til the end of time but it still doesn't explain why the engine light issues at two airports within ONE HOUR don't make even a cameo appearance in the report; newspapers or television. The payout to the victims is LESS when pilot error is charged rather than plane maintenance or design flaw or...as was happening a lot in the 1980s... engines were being sent to factories to be 'refurbished' and 60 Minutes (or a similar program) determined through investigation that some engines were skimmed over or not checked at all. Midwest Flight 105s' plane/engine had gone through that process at one point. Until the last surviving passenger of Flight 105 is interviewed...the dead cry out from the grave. I hear and see them in my nightmares.

@@brotherbuckeyedoug ".you can't put the blame on the driver who assumes the mode of transportation he/she has been given is GOOD TO GO. " But if a tire blew and they didn't apply brakes, as a good driver would, and then travelled 3/4's of a mile before hitting something, would that still be the fault of the anyone but the driver? These planes are meant to be flown on one engine. And the pilots are trained to fly on one engine, and trained to fly if one fails at any point during a flight including takeoff. So the failing engine, no matter why it failed, required they follow their training. They did not and a lot of people paid the price. If teh engine had just randomly failed, and they crashed, who would you blame then?

Holy Cripes.

Same here.. i have panic attacks every time I fly already, and yet I keep watching these crash videos.

I get where you're coming from, as a long time airline employee just keep in mind there was likely another 20K flights that landed safely that day. The odds are crazy low compared to driving or any other form of transportation. The way people are driving more often now with their heads in their phones and speeding like mad, sometimes I wonder how I get home from a long drive. Now there's prob more like 25K-30K flights per day just in the US.

@@vanlifeonthego6684 Yes. But at least in a car you don't fall out of the sky for 30,000 feet in some cases watching the ground or a dark ocean and your death getting closer and closer by the second!

This was the 80’s, thats practically the Wild West compared to what we have now

I am a (private) pilot and always wondered about this. But it is not true that you lose your mind. I had one real emergency. The training really does kick in.

The old school mentality..expect and prepare mentally for every take-off to have an engine failure and every landing to be a go-around. Then the ‘surprise’ factor doesn’t lose any of the literal split seconds it takes to go from saveable to unrecoverable.

I lived in Oak Creek at the time, you could see the smoke from the accident there. They didn't get far south of College Avenue before the crash. I'll never forget that day.

I grew up on 6th and Layton and remember this well. I was 9 and was playing outside with my neighbor when the accident happened. I can still remember all the emergency personnel racing past our house heading to the scene.

Is there any kind of memorial at the scene?

@@danjacobsen7645 not at the scene, the crash site borders the airport and the Cudahy Nature Preserve, but there may be one in the airport itself. Been a few years since I’ve flown. The interesting thing about this accident was that there was a dead deer among the carnage; apparently it was grazing when the accident happened and it was killed in the aftermath.

@@danjacobsen7645not that I’ve seen. Me and my sister walked through the preserve hoping to find the area. Need to go back after the leaves fall. Too hard to determine where you’re at amongst the trees. You can still see where the crash happened from the street because the tree line is different. Unfortunately, couldn’t reach it from outside of the forest due to it being airport land and no trespassing. If I ever find a memorial, I’ll post it here.

"You pays yo money, you takes yo chances"

Isn’t that the truth! My Dad always told me that. He was a very wise man. Thank you. And Happy New Year 🎉

@@dawndare3949 Indeed! Happy New Year to you as well!! 🎉🥳

That’s why I don’t fly. I want to know who I’m entrusting my life to.

ur fine as long as not getting the crew like flight 163

Are you saying you would do the required briefings?

Read the NTSB report and get back to us on all of that.......

Yeah that's not true. Please read the report instead of making stuff up online.

The original report was not the final findings. Additional investigation overturned the original possible cause but took many months later as aviation experts reexamined data. It was not easy to convince the NTSB that their report had made assumptions that did not account for other expert analysis.

Regardless…there was loss of life

Thanks, Jimmy Breslin

I was going down Howell that day.

In the Cudahy Nature Preserve on College. You can see the tree line is different if you are driving west up College from Pennsylvania Ave.

Thanks!

Are fighter jet pilots especially experienced at communicating with their nonexistent co-pilots?

They were the best and their puddle jumper Skyways!

There have been quite a few bad accidents due to errors by some of the most senior, experienced pilots!

38-year-old Mohammed Ali al-Khowyter 7,674 flying hour, He had flown numerous aircraft such as Douglas DC-3, DC-4, McDonnell Douglas DC-9, Boeing 707, and 737. old and experienced enough right ?

No more trump!!!

Hun what does Trump have to do with a plane crashing? Trump 2024!! @@gregtennessee8249

Not no more your going woke now

I have an old video of it in Spanish but I'm planning on doing a more updated one in the near future in English.

He was the captain. They were both captains, but the captain that wasn't responding was not the captain flying. The captain that was flying was asking for confirmation of what was going on since he had never encountered this issue before. Neither of them had and unfortunately both of them did not respond as needed and did not trust their instruments. But they only had about 5 seconds to get it right, so even if he had responded there's no guarantee the outcome would have changed.

It did that day, and then flew to Milwaukee fir the next leg if the trip.

It crashed in the outskirts of the Cudahy Nature Preserve. The salvage yard up the street.

Somatogravic illusion is no joke. Imagine your speedometer in your car telling you that your speed was 100MPH, but all your senses were telling you that you were going 25MPH. It's very hard to overcome that and trust your speedometer.

Somatogravic illusion is no joke. Imagine your speedometer in your car telling you that your speed was 100MPH, but all your senses were telling you that you were going 25MPH. It's very hard to overcome that and trust your speedometer.

a 19 yr old stewardess from Appelton Wisc was on her FIRST flight that day What are the odds after this DC-9 had 48,000 safe prev flights that took her life..

computer graphic mumbo jumbo .... but very well-done computer graphic mumbo jumbo. Sorry for all the highly technical lingo. 😜

How can a reenactment ever be real? By definition alone, it can't be real.

Not actually.